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Sinfix_15
10-17-2011, 03:39 AM
My 240 is for the most part "done" for now, no plans in the near future outside of driving it. Need something else to work on. I'd like to start building something worthy of putting on a road course just for fun. Have narrowed it down to 2 options.

85-86 BUG EYE Coupe. I've owned about 40 mustangs, im extremely familiar with them though ive never attempted to build one for handling, its always been drag racing. So this would be a venture back into a world i already love but with a different purpose. I specifically want a bug eyed coupe, would settle for other fox bodies.
http://www.allfordmustangs.com/photopost/data/500/1986-Mustang-5_0-_Coupe-02.jpg

98 Impreza. I've never owned a subaru, know nothing about them. I've never even owned a 4wd car, so this would be a new experience for me 100%.
http://a612.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/105/l_d8d43da36383560e97ffd322dcf26e93.jpg

silversol
10-17-2011, 09:47 AM
I am a huge mustang fan. Go for the coupe.

03RCode
10-17-2011, 10:26 AM
I love 4 eye Notchbacks. Do it you pussy.

Drummerboy
10-17-2011, 03:20 PM
http://images.thecarconnection.com/med/jba-dominator-mustang_100183447_m.jpg

http://images.thecarconnection.com/med/jba-dominator-mustang_100183450_m.jpg

http://images.thecarconnection.com/med/jba-dominator-mustang_100183449_m.jpg

http://images.thecarconnection.com/med/jba-dominator-mustang_100183448_m.jpg

Found these in an old IA thread.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J47eK55kOvI


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPoLfYlHSyU&feature=related

Big J
10-18-2011, 08:02 PM
mustangs make slow track cars.... the Subi would be a better choice.

Sinfix_15
10-18-2011, 09:23 PM
mustangs make slow track cars.... the Subi would be a better choice.

Steeda would beg to differ.

metalmatt47
10-19-2011, 01:35 PM
Personally, I say stick with what you're familiar with. They're a dime a dozen and the aftermarket is HUGE, so stick with the Mustang.

gogriz91
10-19-2011, 07:10 PM
Do you have a class picked out? What are guys who are competitive in the class you intend on racing in driving? If none of that matters, then you can run on personal preference which sounds like the Mustang.

Sinfix_15
10-19-2011, 09:21 PM
Do you have a class picked out? What are guys who are competitive in the class you intend on racing in driving? If none of that matters, then you can run on personal preference which sounds like the Mustang.

id have to look into it. if theres an easy class to fit into, id be interested. My initial thought is just something for open track days that i wont give a shit about tearing up or driving like a stole it.

gogriz91
10-19-2011, 10:23 PM
Have you checked out NASA?

http://www.nasaproracing.com/

They have an event in Georgia almost quarterly http://nasa-se.com/schedule.php and the requirements to get on track are very reasonable http://nasa-se.com/hpde.php

Elbow
10-20-2011, 07:14 AM
SCCA road racing or just track days? BIG difference in what car to choose.

If you want to do track days I don't recommend NASA. Chin Motorsports, MVP, Rezoom, etc. all offer great track day weekends. Check out BMWCCA as well they run good weekends.

Sinfix_15
10-20-2011, 11:03 AM
SCCA road racing or just track days? BIG difference in what car to choose.

If you want to do track days I don't recommend NASA. Chin Motorsports, MVP, Rezoom, etc. all offer great track day weekends. Check out BMWCCA as well they run good weekends.

what cars run in your neon's class and what are the boundaries of that? id be looking for something like that, where you wouldnt have to build a super fast car to be class worthy. My only issue with car selection would be reliability and availability. I know a mustang would be reliable and easy to repair and keep parts for. i half way even thought about a neon, but i cant do FWD, because if all else fails theres always driftingLOL

Elbow
10-20-2011, 12:21 PM
what cars run in your neon's class and what are the boundaries of that? id be looking for something like that, where you wouldnt have to build a super fast car to be class worthy. My only issue with car selection would be reliability and availability. I know a mustang would be reliable and easy to repair and keep parts for. i half way even thought about a neon, but i cant do FWD, because if all else fails theres always driftingLOL

In my class (ITA) there are Miatas, older RX-7s, 325E BMWs, CRX SIs, etc.

IT classes are broken up: ITC, ITB, ITA, ITS, and there are some other regional ones like ITR, ITO, etc.

Rules are fairly strict as what can be done, engines can't have much internal work, they can be bored .40 over, bolt ons, suspension can be modified but original pickup points and what not are required, ITA cars run 7 inch wide wheels max, so overall nothing major. It makes for a pretty affordable (relatively speaking) race car.

Mustangs can go in quite a few different classes, including ITO.

In racing I think it's best to go with what's proven, which Mustangs indeed are, but also look at reliability, upkeep, etc. The less that needs to be done between each weekend the better. My budget with the Neon is still $1000 or so a weekend and that's not buying new tires or anything.

I HIGHLY recommend buying an already built car. It takes away from the wrenching aspect but if you buy one now you can strip it down and rebuild it over the winter with whatever new parts you need and get a feel for what's what. You save a lot of money and don't have to spend time doing all of the testing work required building a new car. Plus you could make the Feb. drivers school if you bought one over the winter.

tnomud
10-20-2011, 09:50 PM
Mustangs are cheap, can be made to handle great, and retarded amounts of power can be had for cheap. I had a 91 hatch with a mildly built 306, nice suspension, and a bolt in cage for 2 years. It was a rock solid track car, made 355whp on 87 octane, and took non-stop abuse. Subies are great, but a little sloppy on the track. A fox with bolt ons and slicks will kill anything but an STi.

Elbow
10-22-2011, 08:24 AM
Hello Ferrari
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6110/6268707819_24e46a3c15_z.jpg

Bye Bye.
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6039/6269233794_5e8180f9e6_z.jpg

dorin48
10-25-2011, 07:40 AM
In my class (ITA) there are Miatas, older RX-7s, 325E BMWs, CRX SIs, etc.

IT classes are broken up: ITC, ITB, ITA, ITS, and there are some other regional ones like ITR, ITO, etc.

Rules are fairly strict as what can be done, engines can't have much internal work, they can be bored .40 over, bolt ons, suspension can be modified but original pickup points and what not are required, ITA cars run 7 inch wide wheels max, so overall nothing major. It makes for a pretty affordable (relatively speaking) race car.

Mustangs can go in quite a few different classes, including ITO.

In racing I think it's best to go with what's proven, which Mustangs indeed are, but also look at reliability, upkeep, etc. The less that needs to be done between each weekend the better. My budget with the Neon is still $1000 or so a weekend and that's not buying new tires or anything.

I HIGHLY recommend buying an already built car. It takes away from the wrenching aspect but if you buy one now you can strip it down and rebuild it over the winter with whatever new parts you need and get a feel for what's what. You save a lot of money and don't have to spend time doing all of the testing work required building a new car. Plus you could make the Feb. drivers school if you bought one over the winter.

I think it would also be important to point out that a 5.0 is going to fall in a class like ITS/ITR and a 2.3 would fall under ITB.

Elbow
10-25-2011, 03:12 PM
I think it would also be important to point out that a 5.0 is going to fall in a class like ITS/ITR and a 2.3 would fall under ITB.

Yeah I just figured this was a 5.0 thread. lol Although there was a "fast" ITB Mustang a few years ago.

Sinfix_15
10-29-2011, 02:15 PM
I think it would also be important to point out that a 5.0 is going to fall in a class like ITS/ITR and a 2.3 would fall under ITB.

what about an SVO mustang or 2.3 turbo swap? i like 2.3s, theyre extremely durable.


also, adding another option to the list, probably hate myself if i actually buy once the second i turn the key on a rotary engine though
http://www.msprotege.com/members/Natey/RX-7/RX7_HKS.JPG

Sinfix_15
10-29-2011, 02:22 PM
mustang is still my front runner by large margin, been lookin around at a few options