The 240sx... project?

[Catnip]

I know it's been done before. Just showing the slow progress...

Before:

http://i602.photobucket.com/albums/tt110/evan1242/IMG_05201.jpg

After:

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6146/6201082101_d4d016369a_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/48329460@N08/6201082101/)
DSC00359 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/48329460@N08/6201082101/) by enigma456 (http://www.flickr.com/people/48329460@N08/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6131/6201598712_f656eac381_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/48329460@N08/6201598712/)
DSC00360 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/48329460@N08/6201598712/) by enigma456 (http://www.flickr.com/people/48329460@N08/), on Flickr

Now I can put my big drag radials on some lightweight wheels and get skinny wheels for the front, instead of whatever I can find that's 4x114.3. The car is monster trucking partially because it's monster trucking, but also because no engine/trans in at the moment.

[4wslude]

the 300z wheels look a little to big for the car and do you still have stock suspension it also looks like its riding high

[Sinfix_15]

look at that camaro peaking out! more pics plz!

[silversol]

Needs a ls1....

[Catnip]

Needs a ls1....

You must have sigs turned off.

[Sinfix_15]

Needs a ls1....

Amen

[Catnip]

L33

And I'll grab ya a pic of the Camaro tomorrow if I can remember.

[Bacon]

Needs a ls1....

Of all the times I would agree with you, this isn't one.

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[Catnip]

http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/188394_206111072736666_100000133254947_921978_1896 703_n.jpg

That.

[Sinfix_15]

Of all the times I would agree with you, this isn't one.

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you need to get with the program, no replacement for displacement.

[Genji-Sama]

Ahhhh, in for pics of the camaro :goodjob:, but still can't wait to the the LSx either

[Bacon]

you need to get with the program, no replacement for displacement.

Then buy a car that came with a V8. :dunno: Makes a little more sense to me.

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[Catnip]

Then buy a car that came with a V8. :dunno: Makes a little more sense to me.

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I have a car with a V8, lol.

[Sinfix_15]

Then buy a car that came with a V8. :dunno: Makes a little more sense to me.

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Nothing wrong with improving the world you live in. If we left things as they were, we'd all be living in caves and cooking over a fire. Man is smarter than that.... we look at things that need improvement and fix them.....

Thats why we now have microwaves, showers, tvs, boob jobs.... and the ability to put an LS1 in anything that didnt come with one.

[Sinfix_15]

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s268/Virtutis/evolutionls1.jpg

[Genji-Sama]

Nothing wrong with improving the world you live in. If we left things as they were, we'd all be living in caves and cooking over a fire. Man is smarter than that.... we look at things that need improvement and fix them.....

Thats why we now have microwaves, showers, tvs, boob jobs.... and the ability to put an LS1 in anything that didnt come with one.


Lmao, this man is a true visionary :goodjob:

[Bacon]

When you improve something, you keep the original and make it better. You don't replace it to make something feel inferior. I wont thread jack again to prove my point.

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[Catnip]

When you improve something, you keep the original and make it better. You don't replace it to make something feel inferior. I wont thread jack again to prove my point.

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Someone has a certain H series picture for the engine planned to put in his early 90's accord on facebook.

I'm just saying. Not stock. lol.

[Bacon]

Someone has a certain H series picture for the engine planned to put in his early 90's accord on facebook.

I'm just saying. Not stock. lol.

You are absolute right. However, that particular H23 will bolt right in using stock mounts without modification. Mounts have to be fabricated for a V8 to be shoe-horned into a car it was never designed for but I do see your point.

[Catnip]

You are absolute right. However, that particular H23 will bolt right in using stock mounts with modification. Mounts have to be fabricated for a V8 to be shoe-horned into a car it was never designed for but I do see your point.

The LSx is a fairly small package (ha!), so it's not too bad. It'll have just as much or more room as my Trans Am in the engine bay.

[2turbo4u]

the first picture doesn't show us if it's a 4lug or 5, for those of us that not well versed in the 240 world. Are they brakes 300zxtt brakes or 350z since your using a 350 wheels?

[Catnip]

the first picture doesn't show us if it's a 4lug or 5, for those of us that not well versed in the 240 world. Are they brakes 300zxtt brakes or 350z since your using a 350 wheels?

You'll have to take my word for it being 4 lug previously! And they're 300zxtt brakes as far as I'm aware. The 350z wheels were just part of the deal... can't imagine I'll be keeping them.

[2turbo4u]

You'll have to take my word for it being 4 lug previously! And they're 300zxtt brakes as far as I'm aware. The 350z wheels were just part of the deal... can't imagine I'll be keeping them.

I believe you just asking because the first pic was taken with the wheel straight. Good luck w/your build!

[Catnip]

I believe you just asking because the first pic was taken with the wheel straight. Good luck w/your build!

Just giving ya hell. I didn't have a camera for a little while, so all of my "update pics" are on my phone. Kinda pointless since it takes a long time to upload them. Thanks, man!

[Sinfix_15]

You'll have to take my word for it being 4 lug previously! And they're 300zxtt brakes as far as I'm aware. The 350z wheels were just part of the deal... can't imagine I'll be keeping them.

any interest in something like this?
http://www.350z-tech.com/forums/attachments/wheels-tires/35840d1153251285-stern-st-1-face-iii-beast-dsc00503___2.jpg

[Catnip]

Sinfix, just now saw that post. I appreciate the offer, but I'll be putting drag wheels on the car. I'm hoping to find some Weld Alumastars or Billet Specialties at some point.

Update:

Got the Edelbrock carb intake manifold

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6053/6255886183_3c350d84d7_b.jpg

MSD Ignition control

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6235/6256425906_3dde0e7ff9_b.jpg

Aside from gauges, this will be all the wiring for the engine!

Motor mounts

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6097/6256420974_0d69c89268_b.jpg

All you see is the mounting plate, but I have the Prothane polyurethane mount kit, and I'm making the bottom half from 1/4 steel plate.

[Drummerboy]

A carb'd LSx in the 240? hmmm, I guess that's cool. Any reason for that over EFI?

[.:Stirfry:.]

Your not the only one going to be doing a carb v8 240 in warner robins

[Catnip]

A carb'd LSx in the 240? hmmm, I guess that's cool. Any reason for that over EFI?

More power.


Your not the only one going to be doing a carb v8 240 in warner robins

I'm ok with that, lol. It's not a trend car, it'll be a purpose built car.

[Z0_o6]

Should have stayed EFI in my personal opinion. Otherwise, I'm pretty interested to see how this goes.

[silversol]

Should have stayed EFI in my personal opinion. Otherwise, I'm pretty interested to see how this goes.

X2 ill bet anything it would make me power with the efi

[91LudeSiT]

Should have stayed EFI in my personal opinion. Otherwise, I'm pretty interested to see how this goes.


X2 ill bet anything it would make me power with the efi

I bet it will still make enough power to be stupid fast.

[Catnip]

Carb setups generally make 30-40whp over the LS6 intake (for those not familiar, that's the C5 Z06 intake manifold). Being that I have a DD and a bike, there's no use in sacrificing power for fuel efficiency, in my opinion.

[Z0_o6]

It's not even about fuel efficiency, it's about the fact that with EFI it will start up every time, and the fact that you can fine tune it's characteristics WAY more accurately. ESPECIALLY if you plan on using any giggle gas.

[Catnip]

It's not even about fuel efficiency, it's about the fact that with EFI it will start up every time, and the fact that you can fine tune it's characteristics WAY more accurately. ESPECIALLY if you plan on using any giggle gas.

Bah, I like I what I've been reading about peoples carbed setups. On top of better power, it will look a lot cleaner with a fraction of the wiring. I've never really had a problem with any of my carbed cars not starting, anyways. Patting the gas and choke works wonders, lol.

[boosted347]

You are absolute right. However, that particular H23 will bolt right in using stock mounts without modification. Mounts have to be fabricated for a V8 to be shoe-horned into a car it was never designed for but I do see your point.
Just put a ls1 in a 240 2 weekends ago, not really shoehorned, tight but not bad at all


Carb setups generally make 30-40whp over the LS6 intake (for those not familiar, that's the C5 Z06 intake manifold). Being that I have a DD and a bike, there's no use in sacrificing power for fuel efficiency, in my opinion.
This is truth, horse power tv did a carb vs efi and made more power, and god forbid a car with a carb since they are the devil lol

[Sinfix_15]

HELL YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Im feeling the carb setup. i would have done the same. you should buy a carb spacer. :ninja:
http://www.nitrousdirect.com/images/nitrousplates.jpg

[Catnip]

HELL YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Im feeling the carb setup. i would have done the same. you should buy a carb spacer. :ninja:
http://www.nitrousdirect.com/images/nitrousplates.jpg

I was looking at some carb spacers, but I like your version better! LOL

[boosted347]

Ha carb spacer ftw :) ill be joining the v8 240 club in the near future, but not with an ls :ninja: looking good though man cant wait to see it done

[Sinfix_15]

Just put a ls1 in a 240 2 weekends ago, not really shoehorned, tight but not bad at all


This is truth, horse power tv did a carb vs efi and made more power, and god forbid a car with a carb since they are the devil lol

did you use sikky or hinson kit? or some homemade stuff

[boosted347]

did you use sikky or hinson kit? or some homemade stuff

It was a homemade kit, my buddy bought the full swap from a guy in atl, the mounts were all made by turbo dave

But i hear in terms of the easiest smoothest install kit is the sikky

[Sinfix_15]

It was a homemade kit, my buddy bought the full swap from a guy in atl, the mounts were all made by turbo dave

But i hear in terms of the easiest smoothest install kit is the sikky

the quality of the sikky stuff looks impossible to beat.

[boosted347]

the quality of the sikky stuff looks impossible to beat.

Yea and in all honesty for the price its really not bad at all, i mean $1700 for oil pan, mounts, driveshaft, etc is a pretty good deal lol so when you starting your swap man?

[Catnip]

Here's what I'm doing for mounts:

Like I said, the plates on the block mount to the polyurethane mounts, then a single bolt/nut connect that to the crossmember side of the mount... which is being home-made. Blue-prints from silviav8forums.

http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/299017_304685576212548_100000133254947_1439547_291 712353_n.jpg

Still not done. Just taking it one step at a time. At this point I will need to set it in the car before welding the vertical plates that bolt to the polyurethane mount.

[Sinfix_15]

Yea and in all honesty for the price its really not bad at all, i mean $1700 for oil pan, mounts, driveshaft, etc is a pretty good deal lol so when you starting your swap man?

need to find a buyer for my engine before i pull it, not gonna go thru the tire kicker process with kids crying about my engine. With it in the car and running, can prove all claims. I'm definitely ready though, gonna go obnoxious with it when i do. get some 1 chambers and turn downs, ive been listening to the little hamster for too long, tired of it.

[Sinfix_15]

Here's what I'm doing for mounts:

Like I said, the plates on the block mount to the polyurethane mounts, then a single bolt/nut connect that to the crossmember side of the mount... which is being home-made. Blue-prints from silviav8forums.



Still not done. Just taking it one step at a time. At this point I will need to set it in the car before welding the vertical plates that bolt to the polyurethane mount.

not as attractive as the sikky mounts, but theyll get the job done.
http://storebypsi.com/images/products/preview/sikky-350z-ls1-mount-kit.jpg
http://blog.tunedbypsi.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/blog-motor-mount.jpg

[Catnip]

The sikky and daft innovation mounts are both very good looking mount kits. I would just rather put my money into performance, as long as I'm not sacrificing safety and quality.

[boosted347]

not as attractive as the sikky mounts, but theyll get the job done.
http://storebypsi.com/images/products/preview/sikky-350z-ls1-mount-kit.jpg
http://blog.tunedbypsi.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/blog-motor-mount.jpg

I spy a monster green clutch lol

[Sinfix_15]

lets go, chop chop, car aint runnin yet? get to work
http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSghLLP_ZJwDSBxWSM07N4NfRcepTZwA TwuDljZfZeEqhIplTmZ6XDQt7bhww

[boosted347]

lets go, chop chop, car aint runnin yet? get to work
http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSghLLP_ZJwDSBxWSM07N4NfRcepTZwA TwuDljZfZeEqhIplTmZ6XDQt7bhww

Who the fuck uses a double box end gear wrench lol and im excited my car runs now :) you gonna be out this weekend???

[Sinfix_15]

Who the fuck uses a double box end gear wrench lol and im excited my car runs now :) you gonna be out this weekend???

maybe, need to get a last ride or 2 in before it gets too cold.

gonna get some video at some point this weekend, probably be during the day though. dont be hatin on the double box end

[boosted347]

maybe, need to get a last ride or 2 in before it gets too cold.

gonna get some video at some point this weekend, probably be during the day though. dont be hatin on the double box end

Ill be at sonic at some point in the green vert mustang so if youre out stop by :goodjob: and double box is not practical to me lol

[carguy07]

the quality of the sikky stuff looks impossible to beat.

For the record, the car he's been working on is my project. I had the money ready to order the sikky setup, but I couldn't pass up getting everything at once. The mounts turbo dave made look OEM. The only difference is my crossmember is modified, which means it's not legal in a drift car (which is why it was for sale).

Nice project. I decided to go EFI, but I definitely see going carb on a fun car.

[Catnip]

Nice project. I decided to go EFI, but I definitely see going carb on a fun car.

Thanks man. I've been going back and forth between carb and EFI, and still do, but I think carb is the best direction for my build.

Small update. Few more things removed and got the front bumper fitted a hair better.

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6215/6274374764_7b0a356a61_b.jpg

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6093/6274367842_0fcd150a03_b.jpg

[03RCode]

Fuck this thing. Post the Benz-o.

[DA9_Vito]

Well im tuned in for more.

[Catnip]

Fuck this thing. Post the Benz-o.

http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/312804_637321525834_44303784_33642304_1884245571_n .jpg

Do you also want a screen shot from the video of it out launching and then almost staying beside a LS1 FD? lol

[Catnip]

Nothing major, just more parts. Holley 750 double pumper, throttle bracket, and fuel lines for the double pumper. Still have to put together fuel lines from the tank up and back.

http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/316454_308747012473071_100000133254947_1455944_646 840824_n.jpg

The front will be cleaned meticulously like the rest of the engine, after the cam install. No use in doing it twice. I'll probably be going with F-body accessories and bracketry, and maybe some aftermarket pulleys to top it off.

[WalkS]

Mini tub, 9in rear end, 4 link, powerglide, some nitrous = win!

[Drummerboy]

run zoomies out the hood. do eeettt.

[Catnip]

Mini tub, 9in rear end, 4 link, powerglide, some nitrous = win!

Waste, waste, waste, not enough power, and I will... lol


run zoomies out the hood. do eeettt.

Negative. lol

[boosted347]

Mini tub, 9in rear end, 4 link, powerglide, some boost = win!
This is almost my exact thoughts :yes: there are gonna be a few v8 240s in ga here soon :ninja: looks good though man, im pitchin a tent atm :boobies:

[Catnip]

This is almost my exact thoughts :yes: there are gonna be a few v8 240s in ga here soon :ninja: looks good though man, im pitchin a tent atm :boobies:

LOL!
S13s hook like hell with the IRS and good tires. No need for all that work on this setup. I can't wait to just drive the car, much less a good launch at the track on a transbrake with a 3600 stall.


On a side note, I found new old stock coils and brackets for the engine today... $50. Can't beat it!

[boosted347]

LOL!
S13s hook like hell with the IRS and good tires. No need for all that work on this setup. I can't wait to just drive the car, much less a good launch at the track on a transbrake with a 3600 stall.


On a side note, I found new old stock coils and brackets for the engine today... $50. Can't beat it!
Ha imma say mine isnt lsx and the stock irs isnt gonna like it lol but hell if itll hold itll be fine :yes: and $50 is a steal :goodjob:

[Catnip]

Boosted347, boosted347s13?

[boosted347]

Boosted347, boosted347s13?

Ha negative on that im about to sell my car and get a vette :yes: then drop a 400+ cid :ninja: motor in my coupe already got the short block and heads sittin at the shop :)

[00CelicaGT]

LOL!
S13s hook like hell with the IRS and good tires. No need for all that work on this setup. I can't wait to just drive the car, much less a good launch at the track on a transbrake with a 3600 stall.


On a side note, I found new old stock coils and brackets for the engine today... $50. Can't beat it!

wat trans are u going to use? and wat rear end, not the stock 240 rear end i hope?

[boosted347]

wat trans are u going to use? and wat rear end, not the stock 240 rear end i hope?

Reading us your friend :lmao: but yes he is keeping the IRS for now

[Sinfix_15]

wat trans are u going to use? and wat rear end, not the stock 240 rear end i hope?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v178/viperbite/carparts/_MG_1926.jpg

This is the only weak link in the rear end of a 240sx, good thing they cost about $40 to replace. You're only going to break a 240 rear end if youre slick launching @ 400-500+ hp car......

You would do the same to almost any other rear end if you didnt address the axles. Mustangs break stock 8.8 axles all the time even with slow cars..... Nothing wrong with the rear ends that nissan provides. Like every other rear end, you gotta upgrade the axles if you want to go hard, or keep replacing them.

[FriskyWalrus]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v178/viperbite/carparts/_MG_1926.jpg

This is the only weak link in the rear end of a 240sx, good thing they cost about $40 to replace. You're only going to break a 240 rear end if youre slick launching @ 400-500+ hp car......

You would do the same to almost any other rear end if you didnt address the axles. Mustangs break stock 8.8 axles all the time even with slow cars..... Nothing wrong with the rear ends that nissan provides. Like every other rear end, you gotta upgrade the axles if you want to go hard, or keep replacing them.bingo! 240 rear ends are pretty strong. granted, i drive mine in a completely different motorsport and this reference may not help, but i do know of a driver that drove a 500hp KA-T and didnt break an axle for a couple drifting seasons, and when he did, he ordered some from DSS and hasnt had a problem since. and now hes got an LS7 in it

[Catnip]

These guys are right. 240sx rear is a beast for what it came in. Also, I'll be running a TH350, so it **should** be less harsh on the rear end than the usual 6 speed setup. But like Sinfix said, there's nothing expensive about a 240 rear end, so if it grenades, oh well!

[Catnip]

Seems like it's going slow. Small update:

New coil packs/wire set/brackets/coil harnesses-

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6110/6297089621_2235595211_b.jpg

Picked up an extra subframe to work on so the car could stay on the ground while I do work. Notching it for the oil pan. Got as far as cleaning the hell out of it, then cutting out what I don't need and making templates for what I will need. Went ahead and primed it just for some protection. It's decent grade steel, so it probably wouldn't be a problem, but oh well.

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6037/6297081137_4214366151_b.jpg

Thought I was done for the night, but decided to spray the other valve cover to finish up the job... had some left over, so I got the idea to see how the subframe would look. Think I may do it once it's done being modded-

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6097/6297607636_5d949ec8ed_b.jpg

I don't think I've posted an actual picture of the stickies, so here's that. They have 2 1/4 mile passes and the drive to the track and back. At $200 a pop, they don't last very long.

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6119/6297604388_bbb0bcc356_b.jpg

[boosted347]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v178/viperbite/carparts/_MG_1926.jpg

This is the only weak link in the rear end of a 240sx, good thing they cost about $40 to replace. You're only going to break a 240 rear end if youre slick launching @ 400-500+ hp car......

You would do the same to almost any other rear end if you didnt address the axles. Mustangs break stock 8.8 axles all the time even with slow cars..... Nothing wrong with the rear ends that nissan provides. Like every other rear end, you gotta upgrade the axles if you want to go hard, or keep replacing them.

Gonna correct you on one part...the "slow mustangs" that are breaking axles arent breaking axle they are breaking c clips that hold the axles in...but on a side note i know of lots of stock axle mustangs cuttin sub 1.8 60's they arent shit and it takes a lot of power/traction to break the c clips but all else sounds and looks good :goodjob: