slow run

[91s13]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EGbSpoBD-Y&feature=player_profilepage

[Nyteryder]

how fast did it run

[91s13]

how fast did it run

11.59

[justnprsh07]

nice... sounds like you had alot of blowing the tires off the line and if you can keep it from falling out of boost it will be close to 10s. how much power do you make?

[1civic]

11.59

on wastegate, what 60ft?

[boosted347]

Nice run man...car moves out well, what was your trap speed?

[91s13]

nice... sounds like you had alot of blowing the tires off the line and if you can keep it from falling out of boost it will be close to 10s. how much power do you make?

28psi made 700 but i was running 20psi that nite so it was probably between 550 to 600

[91s13]

on wastegate, what 60ft?

i wasn't on wastegate during that run. i was at 20psi and the 60ft was 1.64

[91s13]

Nice run man...car moves out well, what was your trap speed?

121 was the trap speed then my clutch went out. i was getting faster every pass.

[boosted347]

121 was the trap speed then my clutch went out. i was getting faster every pass.

Nice man and I feel your pain on stickshift problems, thats why im going auto lol also nice numbers :yes:

[91s13]

Nice man and I feel your pain on stickshift problems, thats why im going auto lol also nice numbers :yes:

thanks man. lately i've been thinking about going auto myself but i don't know

[boosted347]

thanks man. lately i've been thinking about going auto myself but i don't know

You can go th350/400 with the 2j

[91s13]

You can go th350/400 with the 2j

i also hear that there is a ford t4 that would work too. suppose to be lighter than the 400

[Vteckidd]

11.59
Mine went 11.0 with 550whp so you're right there. Hard to control all that power.

Auto kinda kills the street car aspect but it's def faster.

You have a lot more in it

[boosted347]

i also hear that there is a ford t4 that would work too. suppose to be lighter than the 400
You mean c4? And me id stay with a chevy trans as I went with a chevy lol

Mine went 11.0 with 550whp so you're right there. Hard to control all that power.

Auto kinda kills the street car aspect but it's def faster.

You have a lot more in it

how does an auto kill it being a street car?

[91s13]

You mean c4? And me id stay with a chevy trans as I went with a chevy lol


how does an auto kill it being a street car?

depends on the stall is the only way i see that happening. takes away the joy on changing gears

[boosted347]

depends on the stall is the only way i see that happening. takes away the joy on changing gears

Yea to high a stall could do that, and get a manual valve body so you have to shift it lol

[91s13]

Yea to high a stall could do that, and get a manual valve body so you have to shift it lol

lol, yea my cousin builds auto transmissions so i would have a builder.

[91s13]

Mine went 11.0 with 550whp so you're right there. Hard to control all that power.

Auto kinda kills the street car aspect but it's def faster.

You have a lot more in it

i'm gonna get there with more seat time. car goes straight as an arrow even with the higher boost

[boosted347]

My dad does it for a living so I got mine on the low...trans brake manual valve body and all :) she is almost ready to terrorize the streets :yes:

[91s13]

My dad does it for a living so I got mine on the low...trans brake manual valve body and all :) she is almost ready to terrorize the streets :yes:

let me know so we can line them up. makes a good video

[boosted347]

O most def lol you have to stay at 20 cause im not in the 700 range lol Im only on 9 psi

[91s13]

O most def lol you have to stay at 20 cause im not in the 700 range lol Im only on 9 psi

ok no problem

[h22 jones]

So is this gregg or realy somebody else ?

Im just playing man car looks good .

[boosted347]

ok no problem

Ill let ya know, lookin forward to it man :)

[David88vert]

Don't go with the C4 - it's light, but not as strong as a TH400. The TH400 is the best option, and still has some street manners.
I just switched over to an AOD. I wanted to retain overdrive, so it was really the only option. It eats up a ton of power, but that is a sacrifice that I decided was worth it.
Higher stalls usually result in faster times, but make it more aggravating on the street. I decided not to go with a high stall, but still went non-lockup.
A good valve body is a must. I went with one that still works normally in auto, but allws for good manual shifting, with reverse lockout, and ratcheting to keep me in the correct gear.
My new transmission setup is very streetable.
I'm still dealing with cooling issues, so I'm working on that now. My front bumper seems to be blocking too much air.

[boosted347]

Don't go with the C4 - it's light, but not as strong as a TH400. The TH400 is the best option, and still has some street manners.
I just switched over to an AOD. I wanted to retain overdrive, so it was really the only option. It eats up a ton of power, but that is a sacrifice that I decided was worth it.
Higher stalls usually result in faster times, but make it more aggravating on the street. I decided not to go with a high stall, but still went non-lockup.
A good valve body is a must. I went with one that still works normally in auto, but allws for good manual shifting, with reverse lockout, and ratcheting to keep me in the correct gear.
My new transmission setup is very streetable.
I'm still dealing with cooling issues, so I'm working on that now. My front bumper seems to be blocking too much air.

Listen to this guy, he knows his shit :yes: And i was gonna say the front bumper on all the mustangs are pretty shitty when it comes to airflow, now add in a 3.5" intercooler in front of your radiator lol

ps david change the freaking picture in your sig!!!

[91s13]

So is this gregg or realy somebody else ?

Im just playing man car looks good .

thanks man

[91s13]

Don't go with the C4 - it's light, but not as strong as a TH400. The TH400 is the best option, and still has some street manners.
I just switched over to an AOD. I wanted to retain overdrive, so it was really the only option. It eats up a ton of power, but that is a sacrifice that I decided was worth it.
Higher stalls usually result in faster times, but make it more aggravating on the street. I decided not to go with a high stall, but still went non-lockup.
A good valve body is a must. I went with one that still works normally in auto, but allws for good manual shifting, with reverse lockout, and ratcheting to keep me in the correct gear.
My new transmission setup is very streetable.
I'm still dealing with cooling issues, so I'm working on that now. My front bumper seems to be blocking too much air.

what power range the c4 tend to fail at

[boosted347]

what power range the c4 tend to fail at

If I remember correctly I believe 400 on a mildly built one 600+ on the more all out ones, but im sure you can make em hold more

Performance automatic makes a 1000hp c4

[David88vert]

what power range the c4 tend to fail at

Depends on how they are built. I know of racers that still run them at 1000hp - but they don't care if they have to rebuild them after every few races. I wouldn't bother with them. Just go straight for the TH400. You won't outgrow it. It's the only other tranny that I would have considered for my foxbody, and one of the 2 that I would consider for the Supra.

Here is where I would get my transmission from: http://racewithjw.com/
Here are the other two places that I would talk to:
http://www.boostlogic.com/xcart/product.php?productid=89
http://www.titanmotorsports.com/

[David88vert]

Listen to this guy, he knows his shit :yes: And i was gonna say the front bumper on all the mustangs are pretty shitty when it comes to airflow, now add in a 3.5" intercooler in front of your radiator lol

ps david change the freaking picture in your sig!!!

I'm getting ready to change the whole car up - then I will update the sig.
My FMIC seems to be blocking too much, so I'm going to pull it off. Might go with the AEM methanol injection kit, or the Vortech aftercooler. My air temps are almost 200 degrees, and my coolant is close to 220 now. I can't run the car until I get some airflow.
BTW - I'm putting on a Donathen bumper support - allows a lot more airflow. You might be interested in one also. Kurgan keeps them in stock.
http://www.donathenracing.com/Products.html
www.kurganmotorsports.com

[91s13]

i think i'll consider the 400 if i do decide to go the auto route. David are you turbo too

[boosted347]

I'm getting ready to change the whole car up - then I will update the sig.
My FMIC seems to be blocking too much, so I'm going to pull it off. Might go with the AEM methanol injection kit, or the Vortech aftercooler. My air temps are almost 200 degrees, and my coolant is close to 220 now. I can't run the car until I get some airflow.
BTW - I'm putting on a Donathen bumper support - allows a lot more airflow. You might be interested in one also. Kurgan keeps them in stock.
http://www.donathenracing.com/Products.html
www.kurganmotorsports.com
Appreciate that man im not runnin a full bumper support atm I tend to run 180ish, highest its been was 210 and that was after 4 hot laps at pc strip, I got an air to water intercooler if that interest you

i think i'll consider the 400 if i do decide to go the auto route. David are you turbo too
naw he is vortech

[91s13]

oh ok

[-S Double C-]

shift a little faster

[91s13]

shift a little faster

same thing my buddy kept telling me. 1st to 2nd was hard because the car was basically pending me to the seat. i was getting better but the track was about to close then my clutch went out on my last pass

[David88vert]

Appreciate that man im not runnin a full bumper support atm I tend to run 180ish, highest its been was 210 and that was after 4 hot laps at pc strip, I got an air to water intercooler if that interest you

naw he is vortech
PM me details on the A2W IC. I am interested.

I have the small Vortech, as it came on the car when I bought it.

[justnprsh07]

I'm getting ready to change the whole car up - then I will update the sig.
My FMIC seems to be blocking too much, so I'm going to pull it off. Might go with the AEM methanol injection kit, or the Vortech aftercooler. My air temps are almost 200 degrees, and my coolant is close to 220 now. I can't run the car until I get some airflow.
BTW - I'm putting on a Donathen bumper support - allows a lot more airflow. You might be interested in one also. Kurgan keeps them in stock.i
http://www.donathenracing.com/Products.html
www.kurganmotorsports.com

I got a devils own watermeth kit...

[Vteckidd]

i'm gonna get there with more seat time. car goes straight as an arrow even with the higher boost

Auto trans will knock like a second off with the right stall lol but problem is usually the higher the stall the harder and more impossible it is to drive on the street which i agree takes away from the fun of the car.

Looks good though and good luck on faster times

[David88vert]

I used to have a Mr Freeze kit - didnt like it. Thinking about the AEM kit now, or maybe just put on a A2W.

[boosted347]

I got a devils own watermeth kit...
Ha I was about to tell him this :D

I used to have a Mr Freeze kit - didnt like it. Thinking about the AEM kit now, or maybe just put on a A2W.
Go a2w and meth cant go wrong with that :goodjob:

[justnprsh07]

A2w is a pain in the ass... Unless your doing drag only and even then its a pain in the ass because depending on the holding tank size ice only last maybe 2 passes before u need to drain and add more ice and actually hurts u if u dd it unless u dont have anykind of cooler at all

[justnprsh07]

Meth is nice but e85 and nitrous is better

[boosted347]

Meth is nice but e85 and nitrous is better

Why dont we have any e85 down here, if we did id switch over

[David88vert]

Why dont we have any e85 down here, if we did id switch over

We do.
http://e85vehicles.com/e85-georgia.htm

[David88vert]

Meth is nice but e85 and nitrous is better

Won't address my off-boost cooling issue.

I do have a IC ring for my nitrous kit, but probably won't use it on this car.

[David88vert]

A2w is a pain in the ass... Unless your doing drag only and even then its a pain in the ass because depending on the holding tank size ice only last maybe 2 passes before u need to drain and add more ice and actually hurts u if u dd it unless u dont have anykind of cooler at all

Actually, A2W is better than A2A for a DD. There were a lot of tests on it. Here is one that is specific to foxbodys. http://www.mustang50magazine.com/techarticles/65218_vortech_aftercooler_temperatures/index.html

I would definitely ice it at the track and take advantage of it though.

[justnprsh07]

I got a l2w setup on my car and its not a thrown togetjer cheap setup and im not sure its worth it as its a pain to deal with

[justnprsh07]

Why dont we have any e85 down here, if we did id switch over

Closest e85 station for us is ftbenning or auburn... As soon as columbus or phenix city gets a e85 station im swapping over

[boosted347]

We do.
http://e85vehicles.com/e85-georgia.htm

Theres one in ft benning hmmm :ninja:

[ludeguy420]

damn you dipped the hell out of there

[David88vert]

You do know that e85 takes a large delivery fuel system, right?

[boosted347]

You do know that e85 takes a large delivery fuel system, right?

Yes lol

[Vteckidd]

E85 i was never impressed with. It takes a much larger amount of fuel, it corrodes, i always thought A2W was much better and simpler. But ive never run either so........

[justnprsh07]

a2a you just putt on and go l2a you got so much more to deal with not to mention the never ending supply of ice u need to make it work right... I just take small styro cups freeze the water amd when it comes time to putt it in I just tear the cupp off and it drops right in and stays frozen longer. Trick too it is get the watter really cold and.keep it there... "ice and salt"

[David88vert]

E85 i was never impressed with. It takes a much larger amount of fuel, it corrodes, i always thought A2W was much better and simpler. But ive never run either so........

For boosted applications, e85 is a great fuel. It allows you to keep adding boost but gives a safety net.

[boosted347]

For boosted applications, e85 is a great fuel. It allows you to keep adding boost but gives a safety net.

Exactly why id love to switch, but for me to actually take advantage of its potential id have to get a DART block

[David88vert]

Exactly why id love to switch, but for me to actually take advantage of its potential id have to get a DART block

No need for e85, until you get into race gas territory. Pump gas does fine on the stock blocks.

[boosted347]

yes it does, my car goes well for what it is...til i get a real block ill be a 93 warrior :)

[Vteckidd]

For boosted applications, e85 is a great fuel. It allows you to keep adding boost but gives a safety net.

because of its "cooling" properties ?

What are teh advantages of E85 over C16? E85 takes much more fuel does it not to make the same hp?

[David88vert]

because of its "cooling" properties ?

What are teh advantages of E85 over C16? E85 takes much more fuel does it not to make the same hp?

It suppresses detonation, so you can run more agressive timing with it than you can with pump gas. An extra 2+ degrees can help a lot with power, depending on the car. Or you can crank up the boost farther, without knock.
The downside is that E85 requires about 30% more fuel delivery than pump, but since it is generally cheaper, it is much cheaper than C16.
In some cases, cars on e85 are making more power than they did on C16, but in an all motor car, I'd probably still to pump on the street, and race gas on the track. Seems to me that there are more success stories with boosted cars, and less with all motor.
The cooling effect, as a lot of people put it, is that it burns cooler, and the larger amount of fuel required by e85 also works to cool the pistons.
Average price for e85 right now is $3.31. Add in the 30% more fuel needed, and the cost increases to $4.30 to be comparable. Race gas is more than $4.30.

[Vteckidd]

Ahh ok thanks for explaining. I think for most people the benefit isn't worth it. And I mean most meaning 90% of the turbo or NA guys out there. (Honda wise)

400-500 Hp turbo cars and 200-240 NA Cars prob don't see the benefit simply because c16 requires no other precautions or additives. You simply load another map and dump the fuel in.

I could see guys like Spoolin going e85 because they are much more prone to detonation and it can be much deadlier at 800whp than 400-500.

NA cars are making 240-290 on 93 octane

I bet the mug higher Hp cars like boosted v8s see a much better reason to switch.

Agree?

[boosted347]

Ahh ok thanks for explaining. I think for most people the benefit isn't worth it. And I mean most meaning 90% of the turbo or NA guys out there. (Honda wise)

400-500 Hp turbo cars and 200-240 NA Cars prob don't see the benefit simply because c16 requires no other precautions or additives. You simply load another map and dump the fuel in.

I could see guys like Spoolin going e85 because they are much more prone to detonation and it can be much deadlier at 800whp than 400-500.

NA cars are making 240-290 on 93 octane

I bet the mug higher Hp cars like boosted v8s see a much better reason to switch.

Agree?

I think spoolin is on e85 actually and yea your points make perfect sense to me

[David88vert]

Yes, that is exactly the use - higher power street cars.

[Z0_o6]

i ran e85 and loved it. this was at ~500hp, so it was on the lower end of your scale, but it made the power way easier to obtain, ESPECIALLY considering the ambient temps of GA in the summer.

[boosted347]

i ran e85 and loved it. this was at ~500hp, so it was on the lower end of your scale, but it made the power way easier to obtain, ESPECIALLY considering the ambient temps of GA in the summer.

this guy lol long time no see man

[91s13]

it's just not enough e85 stations in my area for me to use it

[David88vert]

I've got one right around the corner from me, but not making enough power or boost to benefit from it. Plus, I would need to upgrade my fuel system to be able to use it.

[Z0_o6]

this guy lol long time no see man

i'm in hiding a little bit lol. got rid of the STi, the civic is in parts currently and I now live 1100 miles away... so not much to say lol

[justnprsh07]

I've got one right around the corner from me, but not making enough power or boost to benefit from it. Plus, I would need to upgrade my fuel system to be able to use it.

I wish I had one right around the corner bc thats exactly the route I would go.. Q16 is $74 a gallon and that wont last through the weekend

[h22 jones]

74 dollars a gallon wow lol.

[David88vert]

I wish I had one right around the corner bc thats exactly the route I would go.. Q16 is $74 a gallon and that wont last through the weekend

Get a 55 gal drum of e85, and a hand pump. Much cheaper option.

[justnprsh07]

74 dollars a gallon wow lol.

Lol my bad $74 5gal.... Or $14.80 a gallon still not good

[91s13]

Lol my bad $74 5gal.... Or $14.80 a gallon still not good

i had to pay $67 for 5 gallons of c16 so i feel your pain

[h22 jones]

I drive a expidition so spending my life savings on gas is something im used to .200 a week.

[91s13]

I drive a expidition so spending my life savings on gas is something im used to .200 a week.

wow

[boosted347]

I pay $3.5x a gallon :p pump gas warrior ftw