A new h22 build (the one with the bearing from other thread)

[h22 jones]

Im building another h22 for a guy on here so i figured id post a build thread.

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[*EFilliated*]

i kno who the previous owner was and also the person who put the motor together(IA Member). UhOh, sounds like sum1 fucked up

[h22 jones]

I dont hate on anyone for not being able to build a motor . Its the patching it together after it fucks up and selling as if its in good shape thta aggravates me . But hey im not the one that bought it . To start off with its a bone stock motor so why was it so called built ? I mean was it nocking so they thought new bearings would fix it ? Id just like to know the whole story on the motor although i got a pretty good guess just by looking at them two bearings i posted . Im sure somebody will catch what makes this si fucked up if not ill post why after i see if anybody else catches it. I havnt even told the guy that bought it yet . I told him what i speculated but not that i have proof.

[*EFilliated*]

other then having a ugly engine bay and a cut up kevlar hood to hide the motor i dont see it


I dont hate on anyone for not being able to build a motor . Its the patching it together after it fucks up and selling as if its in good shape thta aggravates me . But hey im not the one that bought it . To start off with its a bone stock motor so why was it so called built ? I mean was it nocking so they thought new bearings would fix it ? Id just like to know the whole story on the motor although i got a pretty good guess just by looking at them two bearings i posted . Im sure somebody will catch what makes this si fucked up if not ill post why after i see if anybody else catches it. I havnt even told the guy that bought it yet . I told him what i speculated but not that i have proof.

[1civic]

Hmm, looks to be the wrong size.. ether that or the crank did not fit the block.. Show the other bearings

[1civic]

i kno who the previous owner was and also the person who put the motor together(IA Member). UhOh, sounds like sum1 fucked up

Let it be know... Thx!!

[h22 jones]

The lock is still on one bearing and not on the other. Also you can see wear the one with the lock gone has spun were the other hasnt . Tell me how you get one bearing that has spun and one bearing that has a good lock on the same main lobe of the crank ? Im guessing motor started nocking so bottom bearings were replaced so car would run long enough to sell. Just my opinon other ideas are welcome but before you say the bearing was put it backwards there for collasping the lock you would be wrong . The top bearing has spun before just not with the bottom half thats in the motor.

[Vteckidd]

looks to be a ton of wear on one side of the bearing more than the other. Thrush washers put in backwards? or not even existent?

that would cause the side to side movement and cause uneven wear.

Hard to tell from the pics

[1civic]

Someone did not check the clearances, ether the bearings where wrong or the maincaps where swapped and /or TQ was to much.. Etherway that is some shit..

[h22 jones]

The bearing with the lock gone has spun in this motor before while the other one hasnt . This would be normal if this wasnt the same bearing in the same journal .

Most people dont realize you can change the top and the bottom bearing with out pulling the crank . Looks like to me this motor spun the center main bearing so someone dropped the cradle and replaced the bottom side with out replacing the top side . This is why one half the bearing has the lock gone and the other side doesnt . Who ever did this didnt do it thinking they fixed the problem but rather did it in order to sell the car with out replacing the motor.

[jcs]

:( seems like the same boat that im in with shit being thrown together!!!

[Vteckidd]

I didn't understand what you meant when you said the lock was gone but now I see it. The tab is rounded off on the right bearing.

Like Bobby said clearances look like it was way too tight or it was starved for oil. Hard to get clearances that far off if it's oem bearings because they are generally in the middle (green).

Or it spun a bearing before and damaged the rod/crank and they just slapped new ones in and didn't resize the rod.

If you can hear a motor knocking, it's trash (at least the rods and crank are usually)

[h22 jones]

Block and crank are trashed no doubt . I doubt they checked clearences while they were putting half a bearing on a already spun crank lol.

[h22 jones]

It turns out o happen to know who owned it and who built the motor also pretty well. I'll let them figure all this out just posting what I found for the owner of the car .

[gerardojdm]

Damn!

[Black4DrEK]

i kno who the previous owner was and also the person who put the motor together(IA Member). UhOh, sounds like sum1 fucked up

I surely hope your not speaking on me, mister know it all.............................................





Yup that was my friends old Hatch

The Engine was never built. IT WAS STOCK, STRAIGHT FROM NAD AUTO. Never be disassembled.. Well until now i guess.. Lol

Maybe after he sold the car, the new owners took it apart. I dont know....


So UHHHOOOHHHHHHH.... :tongue1:

[Black4DrEK]

It turns out o happen to know who owned it and who built the motor also pretty well. I'll let them figure all this out just posting what I found for the owner of the car .

I would also like to know who took the engine apart..

When we had it, it ran decent. Just smoked a tad bit.. Hmm.... that sucks.

[DarKStaR]

just curious of those who know this car.....was it ever tuned? If not i know why it smoked so bad lol

[georgieboi]

just curious of those who know this car.....was it ever tuned? If not i know why it smoked so bad lol
I think it was tuned, not positive tho!

[Black4DrEK]

It was tuned! Made 205hp If im not mistaken.

[h22 jones]

Weither it was tunned or not didnt cause this and yes the motor is completely stock which makes me wonder why everybody keeps saying it was built. If it was built why ? Im sure the guy that owns the car and lives in atl and find out more then me . I pulled the motor and i tore the motor the down so im sure what i found is messed up. Honda did not install a bearing with the lock wipped off from spinning with a bearing that the lock is in place on the center main journal lol. it didnt happen lol someone pieced this motor back together period .

[*EFilliated*]

I could really care less about this period. Im just going by what I was told personally


I surely hope your not speaking on me, mister know it all.............................................





Yup that was my friends old Hatch

The Engine was never built. IT WAS STOCK, STRAIGHT FROM NAD AUTO. Never be disassembled.. Well until now i guess.. Lol

Maybe after he sold the car, the new owners took it apart. I dont know....


So UHHHOOOHHHHHHH.... :tongue1:

[h22 jones]

It was tuned! Made 205hp If im not mistaken.

Im glad it wasnt you lol. We have done plenty of good business in the past with nothing shady going on lol. I dont understand why someone put the time in this car that they did then sold it even if the motor was nocking . maybe not everybodys choice of color but the car has tones of time put into it . Realy nice car .

[anothaRRR]

Maybe after he sold the car, the new owners took it apart. I dont know....


So UHHHOOOHHHHHHH.... :tongue1:

I can tell u that we never took the motor apart, no sense in taking a running motor apart just to replace with factory parts and bandage a major problem...

[1civic]

That leaves NADA auto.. Or the owner!! Why did he bring it to you H22Jones?

[Black4DrEK]

Obviously. My friend was the one who droped it in straight from nad auto last year! untouched used engine he sold the car over three to four months ago. It has been threw 2 or more people since! Seems like one of them dont know how much oil to put in it. Smh

I would love to hear what was told.......lol another, I have pics of every engine I have built. This is not on the list..

mr.jones.. you can obviously tell the engine was not " overhauled" correct?

[1civic]

Obviously. My friend was the one who droped it in straight from nad auto last year! untouched used engine he sold the car over three to four months ago. It has been threw 2 or more people since! Seems like one of them dont know how much oil to put in it. Smh

I would love to hear what was told.......lol another, I have pics of every engine I have built. This is not on the list..

mr.jones.. you can obviously tell the engine was not " overhauled" correct?

It went from RSXappeal to this guy who ask H22jones to rebuild it, so I would guess the new owner didn't know about the mark on the dip-stick..:doh:

[rsxappeal]

I am the original owner. Well not original owner of the car but original h2b owner. I put that thing together last summer, rode out all winter long and sold it this spring. It was a fresh automatic motor I bought from NAD Auto. It was tuned as soon as it was dropped in and made 207 hp/160 tq. It ran wonderful, just started smoking towards the end right when I sold it. It has been a skeez apparently after she left me, because I hear it has been passed along to either 3 or 4 people since I sold it. Who knows what has been done to this car?

[Black4DrEK]

The owner also was calling my boy victor out at a varsity meet after he got it...lololol

Arent you his friend? uwish or soo..

[h22 jones]

It was brought to me because it was making noise which was from the main bearings . It wasnt that loud yet because they hadnt spun this time (yet) and it was hard to figure out what the noise was till i pulled the cradle off .Ill put it this way it run long enough to almost smooth the crank back out were the bearing spun before . I cant beleive it ran as long as it did. The owner had no idea what the noise was and we actually thouht it was a broke ring gland till he got to the shop (car on a trailer) and i heard it . My point if the owner did this he would have said hey i tried this didnt work so rebuild it for me . Guy has plenty of money and had no idea of anything just that it started nocking till i sent hima picture of the bearings . im really still not sure if he understands completely whats going on . I havnt had time to talk just texted him .

[h22 jones]

first thing i checked and car was full of oil ( not new oil like somebody had just filled it up).

Im not being a prick but if you cant make a statement towards the reason of this thread then stop posting stupid shit it confuses everybody like the oil stick shit.

I dont care if he ran it with no oil at all it doesnt explain a set of bearing on the same main journal lobe with on having the lock wiped from spinning and the other not having the lock from spinning . Both bearings are still pretty thick no way one spun while the other didnt . Simple fact is look at the bearings there no were near the same . If anybody has tore down a motor then they no the bearings on each journal have the same markings on top and bottom because they see the same metal or same grooves that get put in the crank .

I hate to think anybody did this and would love a good explanation so if you got a theory post it up but ideas of why the motor blew isnt helping .

I know why it blew because it was pieced together with bull shit bearings after it turned a main bearing . Now that thats settled figure the rest out lol.

[h22 jones]

Its not like its weird that a motor beat on by several different owners blew up . Thats not the problem . The question is did it spin a main bearing and somebody piece it back together and sell it . Unless somebody can explain to me other wise im absolutely sure of it simplke as that.

[1civic]

It was brought to me because it was making noise which was from the main bearings . It wasnt that loud yet because they hadnt spun this time (yet) and it was hard to figure out what the noise was till i pulled the cradle off .Ill put it this way it run long enough to almost smooth the crank back out were the bearing spun before . I cant beleive it ran as long as it did. The owner had no idea what the noise was and we actually thouht it was a broke ring gland till he got to the shop (car on a trailer) and i heard it . My point if the owner did this he would have said hey i tried this didnt work so rebuild it for me . Guy has plenty of money and had no idea of anything just that it started nocking till i sent hima picture of the bearings . im really still not sure if he understands completely whats going on . I havnt had time to talk just texted him .

Well, uwish has had that car as a DD for about 4 months now.. You wouldn't think the bearing could have lasted that long!! Seems fishy for sure!!!

Ether-way let the rebuild to bigger and better began.. :)

[h22 jones]

Obviously. My friend was the one who droped it in straight from nad auto last year! untouched used engine he sold the car over three to four months ago. It has been threw 2 or more people since! Seems like one of them dont know how much oil to put in it. Smh

I would love to hear what was told.......lol another, I have pics of every engine I have built. This is not on the list..

mr.jones.. you can obviously tell the engine was not " overhauled" correct?

Head has never been off as far as i can tell. Like i said why is everybody saying built engine its bone stock lol. besides the oil pan and cradle i cant tell this motor has ever been touched . Also it has a tone of miles on it . So if it was sold as a jdm 30,000 mile motor they lied . With that being said i have no doubt that i couldnt stand up to the abuse but thats not the point lol. who pieced it together and sold it is the point . There is no way naybody expected it to last like that so only reason to do it was to sell it .

[h22 jones]

I agree it suprises the hell out of me . On the other hand he seems to care less and has plenty of money to fix it so no need for him to lie .

[h22 jones]

The owner also was calling my boy victor out at a varsity meet after he got it...lololol

Arent you his friend? uwish or soo..

His shit already blowed up dont blast him to lol.

[1civic]

His shit already blowed up dont blast him to lol.

Who's shit blew up?

[1civic]

Head has never been off as far as i can tell. Like i said why is everybody saying built engine its bone stock lol. besides the oil pan and cradle i cant tell this motor has ever been touched . Also it has a tone of miles on it . So if it was sold as a jdm 30,000 mile motor they lied . With that being said i have no doubt that i couldnt stand up to the abuse but thats not the point lol. who pieced it together and sold it is the point . There is no way naybody expected it to last like that so only reason to do it was to sell it .

You know, i had a buddy that said they do some dirty shit to those JDM motor's.. Makes you wounder what you really are buying!! LOL

[h22 jones]

The guy that owns the car lol.

[h22 jones]

I promise it wasnt a 100,000 mile motor lol. It had 150,000 plus i assure you.

[1civic]

The guy that owns the car lol.

O, thought you was talking about the other beaner...lol

[UWISH]

O, thought you was talking about the other beaner...lol

Well if u think I messed with the motor then y would I have to took it to h22jones to look at it I would have told him just to build me a short block and then after he had it ready I would have took the car Down there and swapped the motor then. Why does it have to be a beaner?

[Black4DrEK]

Well if u think I messed with the motor then y would I have to took it to h22jones to look at it I would have told him just to build me a short block and then after he had it ready I would have took the car Down there and swapped the motor then. Why does it have to be a beaner?

You the only owner since rsxappeal? I thought it was sold again already..

[UWISH]

:lmfao: actually rsxappeal sold it to somebody i forgot his name i bought it from him but y would rsxappeal ask me at the meet if it was still running good hmmm :thinking:
You the only owner since rsxappeal? I thought it was sold again already..

[Black4DrEK]

Ok........

[Black4DrEK]

Lol thats a common question anyone would ask about their old car..

[UWISH]

well it doesnt even matter to me it happen oh well it will just bite them in the ass who ever did it ill just fix it and be done with bigger an d better power

[Black4DrEK]

Forsure I hear ya. But honestly when rsxappoeal had the car. It was never took apart what so ever.


What was actual done? A bearing put on over an old bearing? That is just plain stupid to hear. If thats the case that enginewould be toast a long time ago!

[h22 jones]

The Upper half has wiped the lock while the bottom half of the bearing hasn't wiped the lock. You can figure the rest out.

[Vteckidd]

The Upper half has wiped the lock while the bottom half of the bearing hasn't wiped the lock. You can figure the rest out.

well that doesnt mean it was bearing slapped. I mean some signs point to that, but i have seen bottom bearings destroyed and top bearings perfectly fine, and vice versa. Maybe im not understanding exactly what you are saying?

NAD auto ive always had good condition low mileage engines, but im sorry any JDM importer tells the same "30,000" mile bullshit story. The only reason why they do that is because they know there is no way to actually tell what condition the engine is. All they can do is compression test it before they yank it.

Explain to me how time goes on and the engines keep staying the same mileage they were 10 years ago? Are there just endless supplies of low mileage engines in japan? come on gimme a break.

bottom line is when you buy a used car it doesnt really matter, theres no warranty. So a kid bought a motor and he was POSSIBLY lied to or someone patched it to sell it, wouldnt be the first time, surely wont be the last. Should have had it checked out more thoroughly. Also if this guy has had the car for more than a month, its just tought luck, regardless of what happened.

[Black4DrEK]

Exactly.
I dont think anyone has just put a bearing in there to save anything. Its a used engine obviously not fresh. It smoked a tad since the first drop in. then just got worse. Never had any noise like bearing, or that sort. Now almost half a year later it knocks and people are sayin the original h2b owner pieced it together. Like I said, it was never disassembled in our hands. A fresh vc gasket and oil pan gasket and water pump thats bout it

[Vteckidd]

Exactly.
I dont think anyone has just put a bearing in there to save anything. Its a used engine obviously not fresh. It smoked a tad since the first drop in. then just got worse. Never had any noise like bearing, or that sort. Now almost half a year later it knocks and people are sayin the original h2b owner pieced it together. Like I said, it was never disassembled in our hands. A fresh vc gasket and oil pan gasket and water pump thats bout it

sounds to me like it changed hands so many times no one knows what really happened.

The engine smoked and it ran low on oil and that is prob what caused it to "knock". The original owner cannot be responsible for what happened 2-3 guys later on down the road.

Half a year? Mike how long has this guy had this car? Cause if its anymore than a month, he really cant complain , its just bad luck. The appearance of inpropriety doesnt mean it actually exists

[UWISH]

Nobody is even complaining about it I bought it ow well it getting a new short block so.

[Black4DrEK]

sounds to me like it changed hands so many times no one knows what really happened.

The engine smoked and it ran low on oil and that is prob what caused it to "knock". The original owner cannot be responsible for what happened 2-3 guys later on down the road.

Half a year? Mike how long has this guy had this car? Cause if its anymore than a month, he really cant complain , its just bad luck. The appearance of inpropriety doesnt mean it actually exists

This. :goodjob:

[Vteckidd]

Nobody is even complaining about it I bought it ow well it getting a new short block so.

theres a ton of subtle accusations being thrown around, so im just curious the entire details.

[UWISH]

well iam the owner of the car so...
theres a ton of subtle accusations being thrown around, so im just curious the entire details.

[Vteckidd]

well iam the owner of the car so...

so speak up then jesus what the fuck.

Ok let me see if the timeline is right here, correct me if i am wrong:

h22 jones posts a pic of a motor with a spun bearing, insinuates someone(previous owner) "bandaged it" and sold it knowingly ,i assume, to you
Effilliated insinuates that person is on IA and "built the motor" or somehow was shady in representing the condition of the motor
Black4drek comes on here saying its his friends car but from a long time ago
h22 jones basically insinuates more wrongdoing or that he knows who did it and they can speak up
Uwish claims he owns the car now and its not that big of a deal
black4drEK says the car has been sold several times until this point

So the point is, how long have you OWNED this car BEFORE it started knocking, who did you buy it from and are they on IA, what was told to you, etc. DETAILS PEOPLE DETAILS.

[UWISH]

why do u care? do u want to know what time i go take a shit to lol
so speak up then jesus what the fuck.

Ok let me see if the timeline is right here, correct me if i am wrong:

h22 jones posts a pic of a motor with a spun bearing, insinuates someone(previous owner) "bandaged it" and sold it knowingly ,i assume, to you
Effilliated insinuates that person is on IA and "built the motor" or somehow was shady in representing the condition of the motor
Black4drek comes on here saying its his friends car but from a long time ago
h22 jones basically insinuates more wrongdoing or that he knows who did it and they can speak up
Uwish claims he owns the car now and its not that big of a deal
black4drEK says the car has been sold several times until this point

So the point is, how long have you OWNED this car BEFORE it started knocking, who did you buy it from and are they on IA, what was told to you, etc. DETAILS PEOPLE DETAILS.

[*EFilliated*]

Lol the man is just trying to figure who the shady seller was. Take it easy, no need to get all hyped.

O by the way NAD AUTO has had a lot of bad rep with selling old ass motors that are fucked up. I was told this personally by many people/SHOPS

JEI FTW LOL


why do u care? do u want to know what time i go take a shit to lol

[Vteckidd]

why do u care? do u want to know what time i go take a shit to lol

Then dont post a fucking thread on a public forum basically accusing someone of wrong doing if all you are going to do is sit there and be as vague as possible.

[Vteckidd]

Lol the man is just trying to figure who the shady seller was. Take it easy, no need to get all hyped.

O by the way NAD AUTO has had a lot of bad rep with selling old ass motors that are fucked up. I was told this personally by many people/SHOPS

JEI FTW LOL

I never had any issues from Nad but i knew BAY from a long time ago. JEI (matt) is a good friend and hes always got the best stuff too.

I have heard problems from other people with NAD though, and they were similar to whats posted here

[UWISH]

didnt even accuse anybody
Then dont post a fucking thread on a public forum basically accusing someone of wrong doing if all you are going to do is sit there and be as vague as possible.

[Vteckidd]

I dont hate on anyone for not being able to build a motor . Its the patching it together after it fucks up and selling as if its in good shape thta aggravates me . But hey im not the one that bought it . To start off with its a bone stock motor so why was it so called built ? I mean was it nocking so they thought new bearings would fix it ? Id just like to know the whole story on the motor although i got a pretty good guess just by looking at them two bearings i posted . Im sure somebody will catch what makes this si fucked up if not ill post why after i see if anybody else catches it. I havnt even told the guy that bought it yet . I told him what i speculated but not that i have proof.


i kno who the previous owner was and also the person who put the motor together(IA Member). UhOh, sounds like sum1 fucked up


It turns out o happen to know who owned it and who built the motor also pretty well. I'll let them figure all this out just posting what I found for the owner of the car .


Who ever did this didnt do it thinking they fixed the problem but rather did it in order to sell the car with out replacing the motor.


Im sorry but are you a retarded? Jones says he is "posting the info FOR THE OWNER OF THE CAR" which is you. So you should clarify any incorrect statements, and be able to answer simple questions like 1) HOW LONG HAVE YOU OWNED THE CAR 2) WHO DID YOU BUY IT FROM 3) IS IT SOMEONE ON IA

If you cant , then dont have someone who has your car post a thread basically calling someone out for some shady practices. Dont post in the thread like its "not a big deal" when you are basically accusing someone of ripping you off.

EVERYONE including you has insinuated someone has done wrongdoing. quit pussy footing around

[Black4DrEK]

Lol.. this shit is stupid..

The car was obviously neglected after it left the hands of RSXappeal! he takes very good care of all his stuff. Now after 2 other owners its knocking or whatever.. And its his fault!!!??? Get the fuck out of here.. there is NO BAD SELLER BULLSHIT going on, atleast on His behalf.

Like I said 100000000 times... the engine was never taken apart to "bandage" anything.. atleast NOT by us or him.

If im correct, the car was sold to 1civic's friend then was sold to UWISH. I honestly dont give a fuck what yall are saying.

From what I have seen the engine was starved of oil..... especially if you dont know the correct amount of oil it should have,with the engine tilted like that...IDK.

[rsxappeal]

Lol.. this shit is stupid..

The car was obviously neglected after it left the hands of RSXappeal! he takes very good care of all his stuff. Now after 2 other owners its knocking or whatever.. And its his fault!!!??? Get the fuck out of here.. there is NO BAD SELLER BULLSHIT going on, atleast on His behalf.

Like I said 100000000 times... the engine was never taken apart to "bandage" anything.. atleast NOT by us or him.

If im correct, the car was sold to 1civic's friend then was sold to UWISH. I honestly dont give a fuck what yall are saying.

From what I have seen the engine was starved of oil..... especially if you dont know the correct amount of oil it should have,with the engine tilted like that...IDK.

Wow this is crazy! Thanks for trying over and over to clear things up.

[DarKStaR]

ok enough with the bickering back in forth of who did what. The point is something has happened to the bearing and now h22 jones is building a bottom end for him, lets leave it at that.

[h22 jones]

Hold on my thread let me clear this up for the people that dont build engines .

Ok as far as negleted besides the center main bearings every other bearing looks brand new (but run low on oil i dont think so )

I guess i havnt explained this correctly since im getting a tone of stupid comments so let me try once again .

Im not insinuating anything im telling you this motor has been patched period.

the center main bearing has half a bearing on top and half a bearing on bottom . both have a tab (called the lock ) that holds them in place while building the motor and stoping them from moving side to side . When a motor starts nocking its because it has wore the bearing out far enough that it has spun the bearing . That means that the lock get swiped off and the bearing spins with the motor . There is no way half a bearing spins (the half with the lock gone) and the other half doesnt . not to mention the bottom bearing takes all the abuse and it was the one that hasnt spun . Also even know the lock was wiped and both bearings were in place when i dropped the cradle one them had wiped a lock previously. Ok i can show you pictures were the cradle and the block are scared in the center main bearing journal were a bearing has spun although know bearing was spun when i tore it down . Had the lock not been wiped from previously spinning i would have not even looked to see the scratches in the cradle . In theory if you catch a motor before it spins a bearing you can normally just replace the bearings . Ok so i tore this one down no bearings have spun so i should be abkle to just replace bearings right ? Then i notice were a bearing has spun before in this block and one of the locks are gone on half a bearing plus the crank is beat to hell and back on that journal but yet there was no spun bearing when i dropped the cradle . In other words the half bearing that has spun previously was in the correct place this time just the lock wipped. if you cant understand this please dont post because to people that build motors and understand that this is not possible it makes you look ignorant . I dont care how much abuse this motor went threw or if the oil plug feel slap out this is not possible simple as that .

[1civic]

I bought the car from RSXappeal, it was driven maybe 4-5 times.. Had it maybe a month tops, Uwish has had this car 4-5 months atleast!! I listed to him all the problems that I found, he was aware of any trouble.. I told him about the orignal thread, and also who the owner/builder was.. At no point did I say it was built, I was told it was stock..

Now, somethings where left out from rsxappeal, and yes he got a phone call.. I was told after buying this car that it smoked and that is why rsxappeal sold it, I went with my gut and sold it!! The reason I say that I had it a month is because I took it to the Varsity meet, and the next meet Uwish took it..

And Trust me I wasn't hurting for money, I paid 6k for the car and sold it for the same amount, also listing the problems which rsxappeal failed to list.. :)

[h22 jones]

Im sorry but are you a retarded? Jones says he is "posting the info FOR THE OWNER OF THE CAR" which is you. So you should clarify any incorrect statements, and be able to answer simple questions like 1) HOW LONG HAVE YOU OWNED THE CAR 2) WHO DID YOU BUY IT FROM 3) IS IT SOMEONE ON IA

If you cant , then dont have someone who has your car post a thread basically calling someone out for some shady practices. Dont post in the thread like its "not a big deal" when you are basically accusing someone of ripping you off.



EVERYONE including you has insinuated someone has done wrongdoing. quit pussy footing around

I donmt think he builds motors and like you he probably doesnt know enough about what im trying to explain to accuse anybody of anything which is why he is trying to just let it go . I dont care who did it i just wish you guys could understand that this is not possible period . This motor is as oil stained as i have seen a motor but yet every other bearing is perfect . If they would have replaced this half no one would have ever none but obviously since it was the top one and the lock spun it was probably in a bind and they couldnt get it out . had they nobody would ever know but i dont care if you take the thrust washers slapp otu and run the motor with out oil this is not possible . I know you know alot about hondas and could tell anybody how to make power but unless you have built several motors ( even then obviously) its hard to understand . Maybe i explained it better for you mike because id realy like some intellegent insight or ideas but thats not going to happen if i cant make anybody understand.

[h22 jones]

I bought the car from RSXappeal, it was driven maybe 4-5 times.. Had it maybe a month tops, Uwish has had this car 4-5 months atleast!! I listed to him all the problems that I found, he was aware of any trouble.. I told him about the orignal thread, and also who the owner/builder was.. At no point did I say it was built, I was told it was stock..

none of that matters now and its easier to just blame it own a old abused motor which if that was the case the owner could care less and wants it built . I never really thought that i would know half the guys that owned this car lol and not trying to point fingures just want everybody to know this is not possible period.

[1civic]

none of that matters now and its easier to just blame it own a old abused motor which if that was the case the owner could care less and wants it built . I never really thought that i would know half the guys that owned this car lol and not trying to point fingures just want everybody to know this is not possible period.

I was just giving Mike a time-line.. It's not like it was just sold to Uwish..lol, it's been 6 months since the orignal builder sold it.. :screwy:

And yes I see your point, but It's hard to say how long it's been that way..:doh:

[h22 jones]

I was just giving Mike a time-line.. It's not like it was just sold to Uwish..lol, it's been 6 months since the orignal builder sold it.. :screwy:

And yes I see your point, but It's hard to say how long it's been that way..:doh:

i agree its all the ,it was run with out oil or it was dooged otu shit thats aggravating . None of that has anything to do with this.

[1civic]

i agree its all the ,it was run with out oil or it was dooged otu shit thats aggravating . None of that has anything to do with this.

Naw, that's why i said to post the others.. Easier to show all 8 and let people see what your explaining.. Makes no sense that they missed one bearing, all could have been replaced without pulling the crank like you said.. That alone shows they had no clue!!! LOL

Is it a Honda bearing or bearings in the motor? At first it looked like the bearing was to big? But after your book you wrote I understand more about what your pointing out.. lol

[Black4DrEK]

I hear ya! Well it was like that, when it was purchased at Nad auto then. If none of the owners from IA have touched the internals. I just dont see how it would have lasted that long, but ehh.. Whatever. Gl with the build.

[1civic]

I hear ya! Well it was like that, when it was purchased at Nad auto then. If none of the owners from IA have touched the internals. I just dont see how it would have lasted that long, but ehh.. Whatever. Gl with the build.

That is the crazy part!! It's been sold for half a year.. I wouldn't think this patch could stand that amount of time..:screwy:

And Yes H22jones, and Uwish, Goodluck!! Make some power from the H2B!! Make some H fans proud!! :goodjob:

[Black4DrEK]

Yea Situation is just screwy to me too! But I cant really say much more. I have said my facts.

[Black4DrEK]

Yea H is the way.. For now atleast.. IMO

[1civic]

Yea Situation is just screwy to me too! But I cant really say much more. I have said my facts.

Same here, I've never been one to patch a motor!! I have a longblock sitting now that runs, but it's not 100%.. I can't sell that, even tho it will make 220+, that is just wrong of me, so that motor will be tore down and rebuilt before it's sold!!

Karma is a bitch!! :yes:

[Black4DrEK]

Yea.. I dont use my head for a fucking hat rack..I have more sense, then to do some Bullshit like that.

[1civic]

Yea.. I dont use my head for a fucking hat rack..I have more sense, then to do some Bullshit like that.

I'd bank on NAD, and only because I've got bullshit from them in the past, I lost 3200 on a clip which the motor was junk, 2nd motor was no better, i was fed up and just bought a longblock, I then bought a b20 which had so much oil crud it had to be rebuilt, after that I gave up on the low miles motor, seems to be a scam.. With good comes bad, but damn!!!

[Black4DrEK]

^^

DAMN! that sucks..yea this was his first engine, purchased from a Company..SMH..

Before that He baught a GSR from a guy on Craigslist and it was Garbage.

This is why I dont put stock or USED engines in my cars.. I totally overhaul or build them before hand. Gotta love the feeling of a fresh motor!

[1civic]

I totally overhaul or build them before hand. Gotta love the feeling of a fresh motor!

YesSir!!!

[h22 jones]

Good to know guys and sorry about the book but atleast you understand the point now lol.

[Apex1972]

wow this was an interesting read.

[Berta]

Mike, how did the oil pan look? did it have gobs of hondabond/atv/silicone on it? or did it look like it has never been off since the honda assembly line? Then you can say if it had really looked like it had been into recently. But at the end of this saga, it is still a jacked engine........

[southside]

Lol the man is just trying to figure who the shady seller was. Take it easy, no need to get all hyped.

O by the way NAD AUTO has had a lot of bad rep with selling old ass motors that are fucked up. I was told this personally by many people/SHOPS

JEI FTW LOLYea Nad Auto has sold,some bad shit I have seen it first hand.Installed three H series first one put in smoked like a freight train called back,They said bring it back.How do you explain to a customer the engine that is suppose to have 30k is smoking.Which was also a h22,Second one they sent us they said they wouldnt warranty because it was a performance swap like seriously.Customer had a H22 prelude just wanted to replace stock h22 which had close to 200k with a low mileage one.In the end motor was just rebuilt said fuck it!Last but not least was a H23 purchased from them the motor runs fine but leaks from just about every seal.


I could really care less about this period. Im just going by what I was told personallyI wouldnt rule out Nad auto,But just like you said from what I have heard personally,I wouldnt let some people touch a single cam for me...ALL TALK TYPE NIGGAS!Wanna talk shit and everything they build has yet to last longer than 2months.Yet they wanna talk shit about racing...."You aint got shit to compare to me" Really brought same car that beat dat ass first time back out.Somehow the motor that was in took a shit on him around that time idk which build that was...Either way it goes not here to talk shit just saying IMO I wouldnt trust NAD or So called builder.If the MF did touch it!

[h22 jones]

joey lock this thread please sir.

[DarKStaR]

done