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4dmin
11-22-2005, 08:17 AM
I GOT FUCKING SCREWED OUT OF MY 360!!!

I FUCKING WENT IN THIS MORNING TO GET IT AND WAS TOLD "OH YOURS GOT BUMPED TO 2ND SHIPMENT"!!! I'M LIKE WHAT THE FUCK!!! I WAS THERE LAST TUE ORDERING 2 MORE GAMES AND EVERYTHING WAS FUCKING FINE - OH WELL "YOU SHOULD OF RECEIVED A PHONE CALL". I FUCKING PREORDERED THE 1ST OF JULY AND I FOUND OUT TODAY I WAS NOT GETTING ONE... THEN THE FUCKER PROCEEDS TO TELL ME HE WILL GIVE "50% OFF OF THE ACCE..." I'M ABOUT READY TO CUT HIS FUCKING THROAT!!!


SO NEVER EVER PURCHASE ANYTHING FROM EB GAMES THEY FUCKING SUCK!!!

Brett
11-22-2005, 08:20 AM
Places like Walmart and Target will be getting new shipments weekly through Christmas. I am waiting to after the holidays anyways because from what I have heard prices will drop right after Christmas, which sucks for all you who pre ordered cause you are locked in at the high price and when I go buy one first of next year when the 2nd batch comes in, I will pay less then all of you :D

SilverStoneZ
11-22-2005, 08:22 AM
its not there fault and actually EB Games got more than most places but when microsoft reliced the actual 1st shipment number they were less than half the projected amount. I know that a few places only got 10 xboxes total and arent expection any more than that each shipment and the shipments are supposed to come every one to two weeks so yeah im in the same boat i gotta wait for the so called secoend shipment.

Brett
11-22-2005, 08:27 AM
Did you not say "Do you know who I am? Im an ADMIN on IA bitch!!!"

That works everytime when I go out to eat and shit...lol

4dmin
11-22-2005, 08:30 AM
no its totally EB GAMES FAULT... they got their shipment last week when i was there, b/c i was playing their games and console there talking to the guy - he asured us are xbox was here and i purchased more games now suddenly the story has changed and my 360 is gone :2up: one of their fucking employees probably took my god damn preorder and bumped me to the next shipment!!! aaaaarrrrrgggghhhh!!!! :2up: :2up: :2up: :2up: :2up: :2up: :2up: :2up: :2up: :2up: :2up: :2up: :2up: :2up: :2up: :2up: :2up: :2up: :2up: :2up: :2up: :2up: :2up: :2up: :2up: :2up: :2up: :2up: :2up: :2up: :2up: :2up: :2up: :2up: :2up: :2up: :2up: :2up: :2up: :2up: :2up: :2up: :2up: :2up: :2up: :2up: :2up: :2up: :2up: :2up: :2up: :2up: :2up: :2up: :2up: :2up: :2up: :2up: :2up: :2up: :2up: :2up: :2up: :2up: :2up: :2up: :2up: :2up: :2up: :2up: :2up: :2up: :2up: :2up: :2up: :2up: :2up: :2up: :2up: :2up: :2up: :2up: :2up: :2up: :2up: :2up: :2up: :2up: :2up: :2up: :2up: :2up: :2up: :2up: :2up: :2up: :2up: :2up: :2up: :2up: :2up: :2up: :2up: :2up: :2up: :2up: :2up: :2up: :2up: :2up: :2up: :2up: :2up: :2up: :2up: :2up: :2up: :2up: :2up: :2up: :2up: :2up: :2up: :2up: :2up: :2up: :2up: :2up: :2up: :2up: :2up: :2up: :2up: :2up: :2up: :2up: :2up: :2up: :2up: :2up:

4dmin
11-22-2005, 08:33 AM
FUCK EB GAMES!!!! FUCK EB GAMES!!!! FUCK EB GAMES!!!! FUCK EB GAMES!!!! FUCK EB GAMES!!!! FUCK EB GAMES!!!! FUCK EB GAMES!!!! FUCK EB GAMES!!!! FUCK EB GAMES!!!! FUCK EB GAMES!!!! FUCK EB GAMES!!!! FUCK EB GAMES!!!! FUCK EB GAMES!!!! FUCK EB GAMES!!!! FUCK EB GAMES!!!! FUCK EB GAMES!!!! FUCK EB GAMES!!!!

Rican219
11-22-2005, 08:34 AM
FUCK EB GAMES!!!! FUCK EB GAMES!!!! FUCK EB GAMES!!!! FUCK EB GAMES!!!! FUCK EB GAMES!!!! FUCK EB GAMES!!!! FUCK EB GAMES!!!! FUCK EB GAMES!!!! FUCK EB GAMES!!!! FUCK EB GAMES!!!! FUCK EB GAMES!!!! FUCK EB GAMES!!!! FUCK EB GAMES!!!! FUCK EB GAMES!!!! FUCK EB GAMES!!!! FUCK EB GAMES!!!! FUCK EB GAMES!!!!
What point are you trying to get accross?

Rican219
11-22-2005, 08:35 AM
J/K that sux ass!!

4dmin
11-22-2005, 08:46 AM
NOW LISTEN TO THIS SHIT WE GET A PHONE CALL WE CAN HAVE A CORE SYSTEM B/C ONE OF THE CORE SYSTEM GUYS CANCEL THEIR PRE ORDER :2up:



so now i'm stuck get the core system; which doesn't come w/ shit or no 360 until next shipment? and by the way they don't have the harddrives for it either just a single memory card :rolleyes:

Brett
11-22-2005, 08:48 AM
Paul Id wait then for the one you want, dont get the cheap one, you will regret it and spend more to get what you want. Just be patient and wait for the good one that gets the HD and wireless controllers, etc.....

AznTraitor
11-22-2005, 08:50 AM
hey Paul....this has happened to quite a few people....

theory says that the employees who didnt pre-order wanted one or wanted a extra one, so it's pretty simple to just bump you back and now they have it...

if you look on ebay, there are some that have already sold for $680 bucks...my cousin out in Cali told me his neighbor pre-ordered like 5 so he can sell on ebay.

Brett
11-22-2005, 08:53 AM
I have seen them as high as $999 and he even has the amount he paid posted in a picture which was $549 ( was the one w/ 3 games )

AznTraitor
11-22-2005, 09:00 AM
I have seen them as high as $999 and he even has the amount he paid posted in a picture which was $549 ( was the one w/ 3 games )



it's for all those lazy bitches who didnt pre-order for their kiddies and then all of a sudden remebered that they promised little johnny they'd have the first one..


sucks for Paul though....I'd seriously head back and ask them whats the point of "pre-order" when you didnt even get one? and then I'd hold one arm out and run down the game wall.....because what are they gonna do? most kids who work at EB games are little gamer nerds anyways.

speedminded
11-22-2005, 09:04 AM
dammmit....i was like eww a ferrari :yumyum:

IntegraXTR
11-22-2005, 09:06 AM
eb games does suck ass and so do some of the idiots that work there.

4dmin
11-22-2005, 09:09 AM
it's for all those lazy bitches who didnt pre-order for their kiddies and then all of a sudden remebered that they promised little johnny they'd have the first one..


sucks for Paul though....I'd seriously head back and ask them whats the point of "pre-order" when you didnt even get one? and then I'd hold one arm out and run down the game wall.....because what are they gonna do? most kids who work at EB games are little gamer nerds anyways.

trust me it took everything i could not to punch this kid in the face... to make matters worse we got their at 715am... EB wasn't doing the midnight thing and told us that they would open at 7am so we got there at 715am i knocked on the locked door and the kid gave me "wait your fucking turn look...".... not like it wasn't 40 some thing degrees this morning and i'm fucking cold so we sit outside for 15 mins untill he answers the fucking door i was pissed before i talked to his dumb ass :2up:

i'm sure some douche bag took my 360 - when i orgininally preordered i was # 18 on the list, so that would mean they got 17 or less in... they told us too originally that they were only doing 20 presales to gaurantee everyone a 360 :2up: :2up: :2up:

NOW I'M STUCK W/ A CORE SYSTEM W/ NO WIRELESS AND I CAN'T EVEN FIND A HARDDRIVE FOR IT!!!

SilverStoneZ
11-22-2005, 09:17 AM
like i said before its not the stores fault blame mricosoft they were the ones promiseing the stored the presales and then a month before reliece cut it by more than half and yes the employees probly bumped there order if they could but tell me you wouldent have if you were in there shoes. anyway i have to wait on mine as well and i was #12 on the list my buddy told me that there store was supposed to get 25 and only recived 10 so not his fault.

AznTraitor
11-22-2005, 09:27 AM
also blame MTV....with the promise of round the clock advertising, they were given 150 xbox's to do with as they pleased, and they are giving those suckas away for free..

so that's another 150 subtracted from the few that we were getting anyways..

btw paul, dont be so mad....alot of people are complaining, alot of software and hardware issues and overheating....it's the first series, thats why I didnt want to get one just yet...just waiting for all the lil bugs to get worked out.

The Yousef
11-22-2005, 09:30 AM
pw3nd?

Brett
11-22-2005, 09:31 AM
Thats why I didnt pre-order, I figure the first wave will have tech issues

Kristi
11-22-2005, 09:36 AM
that sucks paul - i'm sorry!

heather and i were laughing last night on the way home - people were camped out in front of best buy for those things!

4dmin
11-22-2005, 09:45 AM
I WOULDN'T OF BEEN SO PISSED BUT I WAS THERE LAST TUESDAY NIGHT WHEN THEY RECIEVED THE 1ST SHIPMENT AND I WAS TOLD MINE WAS IN... NOW BETWEEN LAST TUE AND TODAY MINE JUST DISAPPEARED!!! THAT IS FUCKING BS!!! http://forums.importatlanta.com/images/smilies/2up.gif

anyway i got a core sytem now, its not what i wanted but i can still play 360 today like planned... we also got 35$ in rebates. but i can't play Xbox live until i get a harddrive http://forums.importatlanta.com/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif

I STILL SAY FUCK EB GAMES!!!

Hulud
11-22-2005, 09:49 AM
i think you should blame people like dtmcnamara
he has 3 premium ones and 4 core ones
he is just selling them on ebay now

its because of greedy bastards like him that you dont have your xbox

Tiff-O-Bitties
11-22-2005, 09:49 AM
damn that sucks paul.. i'm sorry!

USMC_is300
11-22-2005, 09:53 AM
how much are they running and wahts the difrence in a core system and a bundle

Hulud
11-22-2005, 09:54 AM
how much are they running and wahts the difrence in a core system and a bundle
core-300 no harddrive wired controllers no back play to older xbox games
premium-400 harddrive wireliess controllers plays old xbox games

A.P. Photography
11-22-2005, 09:56 AM
I WOULDN'T OF BEEN SO PISSED BUT I WAS THERE LAST TUESDAY NIGHT WHEN THEY RECIEVED THE 1ST SHIPMENT AND I WAS TOLD MINE WAS IN... NOW BETWEEN LAST TUE AND TODAY MINE JUST DISAPPEARED!!! THAT IS FUCKING BS!!! http://forums.importatlanta.com/images/smilies/2up.gif

anyway i got a core sytem now, its not what i wanted but i can still play 360 today like planned... we also got 35$ in rebates. but i can't play Xbox live until i get a harddrive http://forums.importatlanta.com/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif

I STILL SAY FUCK EB GAMES!!!
Paul, saw some harddrives at walmart. Might want to check there.

4dmin
11-22-2005, 09:56 AM
CORE = 300$ AND BUNDLE = 400$

CORE COMES W/: WIRED CONTROLLER AND CAN ONLY PLAY NEW GAMES, DOESN'T HAVE ANY MEMORY NOR CAN YOU PLAY ON XBOX LIVE

BUNDLE COMES W/: WIRELESS CONTROLLER, 20GB HARDDRIVE, HEADSET, CAN PLAY OLD GAMES AND IS XBOX LIVE READY

Hulud
11-22-2005, 09:58 AM
Paul check this http://forums.importatlanta.com/showthread.php?t=31380

4dmin
11-22-2005, 10:17 AM
oh i posted

Hektik
11-22-2005, 12:21 PM
Man that sux.

B16a2 Civic
11-22-2005, 12:23 PM
Paul, you seem mad...is that an accurate guess?

DemonEyez
11-22-2005, 01:26 PM
theory i read was microsoft had to adjust some issues with the xbox 360's so that hindered how many they could ship out at first. also i believe they released that they will not be able to fill all the preorder's till late january. sucks for microsoft and people buying the 360.

i personally dont think its a great system after playin some of the games.

turbowrx
11-22-2005, 01:29 PM
I got owned also paul. I hate gamestop.... which is ebgames. My store took 20 pre orders. I was # 11. ONLY 6 CAME IN!!!!!!!!!!

OK..thats wierd i just got a call that I can get a core system. hmmmmmm

Brett
11-22-2005, 01:38 PM
cause no one wants the core system, I know I wouldnt either, not for what you can get for just a bit more.

gtikid
11-22-2005, 01:57 PM
Damn Paul that blows. So no 360 all day and night how you planned?

God
11-22-2005, 01:58 PM
i manage an ebgames. microsoft fucked over every ebgames
they allotted us 40 preorders for first shipment and anohter 40 for 2nd shipment
4 weeks ago they call and say we are only getting 20 xboxs for release day
2 weeks ago they say 18
last week they call to say our order got cut again.
friday we got 2 core and 10 premium in

the employee who told you they were in was probaly a fucking idiot.
no one received any premium in shipment till friday at the earliest. the cores have been in for more than a week tho. ive already fired 2 stupid kids this month
and if any ofthe employees took someones preorder they'll be fired asap.

as for people getting more than 1 preorder at ebgames, thats only if they used diff names and phone numbers

anyone with the same name/number in our district got a call saying all preorders other than 1 would be cancelled

Vteckidd
11-22-2005, 02:00 PM
PS3 FOR THE WIN!

gtikid
11-22-2005, 02:02 PM
PS3 FOR THE WIN!

:werd::yourock::bowdown:

Brett
11-22-2005, 02:13 PM
i manage an ebgames. microsoft fucked over every ebgames
they allotted us 40 preorders for first shipment and anohter 40 for 2nd shipment
4 weeks ago they call and say we are only getting 20 xboxs for release day
2 weeks ago they say 18
last week they call to say our order got cut again.
friday we got 2 core and 10 premium in

the employee who told you they were in was probaly a fucking idiot.
no one received any premium in shipment till friday at the earliest. the cores have been in for more than a week tho. ive already fired 2 stupid kids this month
and if any ofthe employees took someones preorder they'll be fired asap.

as for people getting more than 1 preorder at ebgames, thats only if they used diff names and phone numbers

anyone with the same name/number in our district got a call saying all preorders other than 1 would be cancelled


This is why you are GOD...lol

4dmin
11-22-2005, 02:29 PM
I got owned also paul. I hate gamestop.... which is ebgames. My store took 20 pre orders. I was # 11. ONLY 6 CAME IN!!!!!!!!!!

OK..thats wierd i just got a call that I can get a core system. hmmmmmm

lol thats funny... i guess someone got yours too :goodjob:


i just bought the fucking core i'm not waiting till jan for 360... all i need to find is a harddrive :D

AznTraitor
11-22-2005, 02:35 PM
lol thats funny... i guess someone got yours too :goodjob:


i just bought the fucking core i'm not waiting till jan for 360... all i need to find is a harddrive :D


did you check Walmart? the one here had like 3 earlier when I was up there...

B16a2 Civic
11-22-2005, 02:36 PM
Peter, i dont get ya sig, please elaborate

4dmin
11-22-2005, 02:36 PM
which one?

AznTraitor
11-22-2005, 02:39 PM
which one?


the walmart here in Columbus! I was up there earlier and they had a few core systems, and had the seperate hd's right by them...I didnt see the controllers though..

God
11-22-2005, 02:43 PM
Peter, i dont get ya sig, please elaborate


http://flippyorlybird.ytmnd.com/



http://orly-dcfe.ytmnd.com/

and this one is one of the best,

http://orlyvesti.ytmnsfw.com/

B18c-rex
11-22-2005, 02:44 PM
You understand that the launch date was for all over the world not just the good ole USA. And if anyone thinks they will getting one before some time in jan your outta luck. But mine will be going on e-bay for extreme high dollar$ amount. Trust me some will buy it for that price... :D

AznTraitor
11-22-2005, 02:46 PM
http://flippyorlybird.ytmnd.com/



http://orly-dcfe.ytmnd.com/

and this one is one of the best,

http://orlyvesti.ytmnsfw.com/

thank you Joe.....o rly? .....ya rly!

B16a2 Civic
11-22-2005, 02:46 PM
you ebay sharks are nerds, god hates you

AznTraitor
11-22-2005, 02:47 PM
You understand that the launch date was for all over the world not just the good ole USA. And if anyone thinks they will getting one before some time in jan your outta luck. But mine will be going on e-bay for extreme high dollar$ amount. Trust me some will buy it for that price... :D


wrong....there's actually quite a few Core's sitting around because no one really wants it.

God
11-22-2005, 02:47 PM
thank you Joe.....o rly? .....ya rly!


oh rrry!!!!1

AznTraitor
11-22-2005, 02:47 PM
oh rrry!!!!1


quite rly!

B16a2 Civic
11-22-2005, 02:49 PM
quite rly!
im still out the loop :(

Vuongy_Dong
11-22-2005, 02:49 PM
If you ever need the game CASES, i have all of them. ps2, umd,dvd,cd,xbox. I work at the manufacturing plant.

God
11-22-2005, 02:53 PM
quite rly!


eh rly?

God
11-22-2005, 02:53 PM
If you ever need the game CASES, i have all of them. ps2, umd,dvd,cd,xbox. I work at the manufacturing plant.


i might need some umd ones!

Vuongy_Dong
11-22-2005, 03:23 PM
got the clear ones.

NzProjeKt
11-22-2005, 03:33 PM
This thing just dropped today and DAMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM... Ive already heard several horror stories about the 360...

Bill Gates OWNNNNZZZ you fools...

God
11-22-2005, 04:19 PM
got the clear ones.


free?

Vuongy_Dong
11-22-2005, 04:40 PM
yup. just for being a motha fukin IA member. :)

B16a2 Civic
11-22-2005, 04:44 PM
xbox 360 thats clear...and free
I CALL DOWNS

Vuongy_Dong
11-22-2005, 04:48 PM
xbox 360 thats clear...and free
I CALL DOWNS
360 is green. umd is clear.

B16a2 Civic
11-22-2005, 04:54 PM
360 is green. umd is clear.


im confused.

Brett
11-22-2005, 04:57 PM
This thing just dropped today and DAMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM... Ive already heard several horror stories about the 360...

Bill Gates OWNNNNZZZ you fools...


Like what?

Tiff-O-Bitties
11-22-2005, 05:13 PM
just randomly posting.. have a great thanksgiving! :D

speedminded
11-22-2005, 05:32 PM
If you ever need the game CASES, i have all of them. ps2, umd,dvd,cd,xbox. I work at the manufacturing plant.I'm trying to figure out what to do with one...the first idea in my head was cut the bottom out and put it on a gas powered RC chassis...worlds fastest xbox!

man
11-22-2005, 05:34 PM
Paul, You probably took my core :( They said mine wasnt there, assholes... oh well

NzProjeKt
11-22-2005, 06:01 PM
Like what?
What Ive Heard:
Alot of systems are flooded with errors... (region coding errors and DDE errors(dirty disc))
Doesnt live up to the expectations or the hype...
Xbox Helpline is floooded with complaints..

What Ive witnessed:
The graphics are crazy and all but my PC puts up a good fight...

Im still buying one tho.. Probably after a few shipments drop..

imbosile
11-22-2005, 06:05 PM
yea they were just interviewing some professional people that "rate" how good a system is, and the way they felt was that the system was great, but they didn't have any good games besides COD2 that offered "next gen" gaming experience. They felt like it was more of an Xbox 1.5 (G4 Tech TV)

PhatbacK
11-22-2005, 06:05 PM
woah. people get hostile over xbox

imbosile
11-22-2005, 06:06 PM
woah. people get hostile over xbox

yea, there is no need too, why not just build up your PC? online gaming is so much easier that way.

PhatbacK
11-22-2005, 06:07 PM
hell i really dont care. whatever floats ur boat!

rickgiblin
11-22-2005, 06:15 PM
hey if you havent gotten it yet.. me and my buddy bought 4 this morning. hes selling 3. let me know if you wanna buy one and cancel your preorder

speedminded
11-22-2005, 06:37 PM
hey if you havent gotten it yet.. me and my buddy bought 4 this morning. hes selling 3. let me know if you wanna buy one and cancel your preordermust be nice!

rickgiblin
11-22-2005, 11:52 PM
^^^ yea, wish i was a baller like him, i think i might buy 2 from him and ebay them

HalfBaked
11-23-2005, 01:08 AM
I'm staring at my 360.

I bought a premium bundle pack.

3 games, 2 wireless controllers, headsets, dvd remote. It's great. And for sale. :)

TheFireMan
11-23-2005, 01:23 AM
I heard some weirdo bought 360 on Ebay for 1K ..hahah damn..Walmart sold out right away at 12:01 AM and everyone was camping out at all the first come first serve stores..saw beer bottles blankets, chairs, ..damn u name it..what happen to the millions of systems microsoft made? just keeping it in the micrsoft storage..wtf. this is all for the hype sendin few systems to each store.


I still laugh at people who buy the 360 and not open it or anything and sell it off and try to make double the profit..:lmfao: even funny when someone buys it from them when they can wait a week and check back at target or costco:doh:

Im going to wait till some really good games are out then its worth it..or just say fuk that shiiet, and buy PS3!! :cool:

God
11-23-2005, 01:26 AM
1K thats nothing, single premium units have been going for over 3K all day

Red
11-23-2005, 01:31 AM
Some of these people are crazy. I'm sorry, but I'd never pay that much. We were giving tickets away for our 360s at Best Buy today and we had people buying the tickets off of each other for like 700 bucks.

HalfBaked
11-23-2005, 09:23 AM
I heard some weirdo bought 360 on Ebay for 1K ..hahah damn..Walmart sold out right away at 12:01 AM and everyone was camping out at all the first come first serve stores..saw beer bottles blankets, chairs, ..damn u name it..what happen to the millions of systems microsoft made? just keeping it in the micrsoft storage..wtf. this is all for the hype sendin few systems to each store.


I still laugh at people who buy the 360 and not open it or anything and sell it off and try to make double the profit..:lmfao: even funny when someone buys it from them when they can wait a week and check back at target or costco:doh:

Im going to wait till some really good games are out then its worth it..or just say fuk that shiiet, and buy PS3!! :cool:

Yea, laugh all you want.

When I make over 1k profit off of this thing I'm sure you'd be thinking its funny.

B16a2 Civic
11-23-2005, 09:27 AM
fuck 360

Greddypacked
11-23-2005, 12:24 PM
Why is everyone in such a hurry, it's not like they will blow up by the end of the month lol. I cant wait to walk into a store and see them packed up on sale during the summer.

BlueHatch
11-23-2005, 06:00 PM
they did the same to me

Kevykev
11-23-2005, 06:02 PM
Ferrari 360?

BAWLLA!

Brett
11-23-2005, 06:16 PM
Why is everyone in such a hurry, it's not like they will blow up by the end of the month lol. I cant wait to walk into a store and see them packed up on sale during the summer.

Yup, thats what im sayin, I dont feel I have to be the first on my street to have one, I will wait for a lower price and more games first

IndianStig
11-23-2005, 06:32 PM
I BOUGHT 4 Premiums and 1 CORE

from Walmart

HAHHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHA

ill sell you a premium for $500+your core

TheFireMan
11-23-2005, 06:33 PM
^^ Def...their's no good next generations experience games out right now.

XBLG20
11-23-2005, 07:00 PM
i will not be buying one till they know how to hack it

BufordŽ
11-23-2005, 09:29 PM
Or until they come down to like $250.

XBLG20
11-23-2005, 09:30 PM
Hackable + good used price = me buying one

BufordŽ
11-23-2005, 09:42 PM
FUCK EB GAMES!!!! FUCK EB GAMES!!!! FUCK EB GAMES!!!! FUCK EB GAMES!!!! FUCK EB GAMES!!!! FUCK EB GAMES!!!! FUCK EB GAMES!!!! FUCK EB GAMES!!!! FUCK EB GAMES!!!! FUCK EB GAMES!!!! FUCK EB GAMES!!!! FUCK EB GAMES!!!! FUCK EB GAMES!!!! FUCK EB GAMES!!!! FUCK EB GAMES!!!! FUCK EB GAMES!!!! FUCK EB GAMES!!!!

Call it a hunch, but I'm guessing that you slightly dislike EB Games. lol

XBLG20
11-23-2005, 09:43 PM
which one was it? I'm friends with the GM at Gwinnett Place