Turbo Prelude Build Thread (lots of pictures)

[Drummerboy]

The Disclaimer
Just to clarify, this isn't a build thread with shaved bays, crazy wet paint, $3000 wheels, etc.
This is just a regular swap. A couple of car guys finding a free weekend to help out a friend with his car. This is my first swap, so it was definitely a learning experience. This is just the engine swap, I'll update when all the random parts I've bought over the last year get installed.

The Story
The motor threw rod #3 through the side of the block on 4/1/10 (April fools day. Ha..) After I installed my HKS EVC5 EBC and didn't know the conversion between Kpa and psi. I ran close to 2 Bar through a stock motor. My own stupid mistake. The car has sat for over a year while I've tried to come up with parts and a new motor to get it running again.

The setup

96 Honda Prelude S (silver)
F22A1 (8.8:1 compression)
5-Speed
Performance:
Turbonetics Turbo kit (t3/t4, powder coated piping, Turbonetic couplers and T bolt clamps, intercooler)
Turbonetics Evolution Wastegate
Greddy Replica BOV
Greddy Emanage Ultimate
Greddy Turbo Timer
Greddy Oil Catch Can
Greddy MAP sensor and MAP harness
Greddy A/F Harness
HKS EVC 5 Electronic Boost controller
Competition Clutch Stage 5, 6 puck
Competition Clutch Pressure Plate
Competition clutch 8lbs Flywheel
Compustar alarm system with receiver
Summit battery relocation kit
K&N Filter
Custom made intake heat shield
2.5” Downpipe
Custom 3” Stainless steel Exhaust
Silverline Resonator
Apexi N1 Muffler
Suspension:
DC Sport Front strut bar
DC Sport Rear tie bar
OBX Front tie bar
Skunk2 Adjustable Coilovers
KYB AGX struts
Camber kit
Exterior:
17x7 Nexo NX-7 wheels
OEM Honda sun roof visor
OEM Prelude Si front lip
Amber section of taillights cleared
Prelude badge removed
Interior:
Razo white shift knob
Xenarc 7” touch screen
Glowshift Volt gauge
Glowshift 7 color oil pressure gauge
Glowshift 7 color oil temp gauge
Glowshift pillar gauge pod
AEM UEGO wideband A/F Ratio gauge
Black suede door panels, tweeter pods, arm rest, headliner and rear panels
New black carpet
Alpine headunit (CD/DVD/MP3)
Alpine 6.5 speakers
Ipod hookup (ran into middle console)
Capacitor mounted between rear seats
Mugen polished pedal set
Forbidden Motorsports Short Shifter

The Past
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a70/thesewallsbleed2/Build%20Thread/ghost2_800x600.jpg

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a70/thesewallsbleed2/DSC05893-1.jpg

The Carnage
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a70/thesewallsbleed2/DSCN1790.jpg

After getting some stuff out of the way
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a70/thesewallsbleed2/Build%20Thread/DSCN1835_800x600.jpg

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a70/thesewallsbleed2/Build%20Thread/DSCN1843_800x600.jpg

Getting to work
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a70/thesewallsbleed2/Build%20Thread/DSCN1809_800x600.jpg

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a70/thesewallsbleed2/Build%20Thread/DSCN1811_800x600.jpg

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a70/thesewallsbleed2/Build%20Thread/DSCN1808_800x600.jpg

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a70/thesewallsbleed2/Build%20Thread/DSCN1813_800x600.jpg

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a70/thesewallsbleed2/Build%20Thread/DSCN1816_800x600.jpg

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a70/thesewallsbleed2/Build%20Thread/DSCN1815_800x600.jpg

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a70/thesewallsbleed2/Build%20Thread/DSCN1825_800x600.jpg

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a70/thesewallsbleed2/Build%20Thread/DSCN1826_800x600.jpg

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a70/thesewallsbleed2/Build%20Thread/DSCN1830_800x600.jpg

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a70/thesewallsbleed2/Build%20Thread/DSCN1832_800x600.jpg

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a70/thesewallsbleed2/Build%20Thread/DSCN1838_800x600.jpg

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a70/thesewallsbleed2/Build%20Thread/DSCN1837_800x600.jpg

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a70/thesewallsbleed2/Build%20Thread/DSCN1840_800x600.jpg

The Thanks
Thanks so much to Tim (Tdurr) and Jeremy (hseries). DEFINITELY couldn't have got this far without your help. I thought I knew a good bit about this stuff, but these guys taught me alot. :goodjob:

UPDATE: 6/9/11
Tdurr and I went last weekend and finished everything up, It cranks, but no spark. Throwing code 15. So I bought a new jdm dizzy (internal coil) and I'm just waiting on that to come in. I plan to swap to external eventually, but this was just a quick fix.

Also bought a few goodies, I figured I have enough go fast parts for now, so the Prelude gets some long over do "look at me" parts.

"Mugen Style" front lip
http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_images/3/1581/4381/28952190024_large.jpg

JDM one piece headlights
http://www.preludeonline.com/attachments/f61/2338d1256622317-jdm-black-amber-headlights-cleanlude.jpg

(Personal Favorite) SSR SP1's 17x7 +37 17x8+37
http://www.j-spec.nl/wp-content/gallery/2007-05-09-ssr-wheels/07.jpg

Aluminum full size radiator, (I already had a dual FAL fan set up with shroud)
http://autopwr.sslpowered.com/autopwrphoto/picture01/20100825/SU005.jpg

5 panel wink mirror
http://i434.photobucket.com/albums/qq62/andrew_woltjer/Photoshoot%204/DSC_0474copy.jpg

Update 6/16/11

After 2 weeks of no spark, I finally figured out what it was, and I feel really stupid. When I went from external coil to internal, I didn't do anything with the coil plug on the harness! So a 20 amp blade fuse was used to jump off the plug and it started right up. After some idle issues and figuring out the firing order, here it is!

The Revival
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a70/thesewallsbleed2/th_0615112202-01.jpg (http://s9.photobucket.com/albums/a70/thesewallsbleed2/?action=view&current=0615112202-01.mp4)

Update 6/22/2011

So the prelude is scheduled to be dropped off at Batlground Motorsports (batlground.com) to start wiring up the emanage ultimate. Tuning will take place either the next day or the following tuesday (july 5th). I'll be sure to have Uho (jim) and possibly Tdurr (tim) there to take videos.

Update 6/30/2011

So this morning I woke up 10 minutes before I was suppose to be in court, somehow got my suit on, shaved, made my hair somewhat presentable, and made it on time. I am officially done with all court related issues! It's been a long 5 months...

After court, my dad called and said he picked up the Uhaul auto transport trailer and was on the way to load up the Prelude (I dont live at home). He got up here about an hour later and we were off to Batlground. Hunter, one of the employees there did a great job filling me in on what would take place over the next few days and promised to keep me informed. Wiring started today and will hopefully be done by tomorrow. Then the tune will most likely take place on the 5th. I'm excited about being able to drive the car again, and seeing what numbers it makes, but I'm already in the process of piecing together my next big upgrade. Only a couple people know what the plan is, and It'll stay that way until it's tuned....again.

I forgot to take pictures today because I was so excited, but I'll be sure to have some pics/vids up as soon as I get them. Thanks guys!

Update 7/7/2011

So, change of plans... I sold the prelude and bought a mustang. lol, jk. Batlground called me about a week ago and asked me what I thought about tuning with Chrome. After a little while of talking it over, I decided they knew best. So I ordered a P72 from Dirka Dirka (Eric). It arrived at Batlground today and should be getting chipped/tuned early next week.

Hopefully I can get the car back and get some of the parts laying in my room installed before I leave for import Alliance on the 15th!


Update 7/15/2011

I CANT CATCH A BREAK! AAAAAHHH!!!

Ok, so I got my car back from batlground 2 hours before I had to leave for Import Alliance. I drove it around town and noticed a slight knocking sound. I pulled over, checked tire pressure, checked the brakes, listened to the motor idle and rev a bit. Nothing. So the only thing I could think of was the exhaust knocking against the exhaust tunnel. I didn't have all the hangers on, so it made sense. I drove from Marietta to Mcdonough (an hour drive) to pick up a friend for IA, made it back to I-75 and was in stop and go traffic. At 30mph, in the far left lane, I "hit a pot hole"... Or so I thought. Big bump, scrubbing sound, and then I look out my window and see my wheel rolling next to my car, headed across the median and towards on coming traffic. Apparently somewhere between trailering my car to the shop and coming back up 75, all my lugs loosened and fell off. I'm in no way placing blame on anyone or anything, until I can figure out exactly what happened. The tire caught the fender and folded it under, and it shred the sidewall. Thank god the cross member caught most of the slide, so the oil pan isn't leaking from what I can tell. Radiator is leaking, but I have a new one waiting to go on. Had to get a new tire, and I think my wheel is bent a bit. Also need a new fender. Oh, and 1 stud is stripped and 1 is bent. So I have to address that.

After the whole ordeal, We took a vote (of 2 people) and decided we were still going to make it. We stopped every few exits and checked the lugs. 12 hours after leaving for Import Alliance, we made it.


The Prelude is FAR from finished, or even presentable, but it runs, and it's a trooper.

UPDATE 12/31/11

HAPPY NEW YEARS EVE EVERYBODY!!!

It's been a while since I updated my build thread, so I wanted to catch everybody up to speed. I'll try to list everything in the order it happened.

Bought/ sticker'd my wink mirror

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a70/thesewallsbleed2/0607112259-00.jpg
Bought my new wheels!
Rota D2's 17x7.5 +20, 17x8.5 +25
Because the SSR SP-1's I bought turned out to be a scam and a huge lose of money, I bought these, which are replicas. Sad thing is, I already bought ssr center caps and spoke decals (caps were around $86 a piece!). So I'm kind of throwing around the idea of "rebadging" these wheels with the ssr caps and decals. If anyone asked, I'd tell them they're rotas, but it would just make me happy to at least LOOK like I got what I already paid for.

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a70/thesewallsbleed2/0927111944-00.jpg

They will be paired with these:
Blox open ended lug nuts, red chrome (to follow the theme of the engine bay)

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a70/thesewallsbleed2/1216111909-00.jpg

Then came some much needed cleaning. The prelude sat for a year while I did the swap, so everything was neglected. It still needs a full detail, but I did a couple touch ups for now.

First, I broke out the Mother's Aluminum polish and dremel.

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a70/thesewallsbleed2/1216111238-00.jpg

Here is my the before/after effects on my intercooler. This is the top of the intercooler. The left has been polished to a mirror finish (you can see the ac hard lines in the reflection). The right side has been wiped down with a damp cloth, but is still like looking at a baking sheet. I was really pleased with this polish and this technique. I'd recommend it for any aluminum that isn't clear coated.

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a70/thesewallsbleed2/1216111304-01.jpg

Here's a full view of the car after removing the bumper to polish the FMIC.

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a70/thesewallsbleed2/1216111404-00.jpg

And a close up of the headlight harness that I desperately need to address. I've had 3 sets of headlights in this car, and am about to swap to the 4th. Every time the harness is different, so the previous one is cut/soldered. I'll be cleaning all that up when I install the jdm lights.

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a70/thesewallsbleed2/1216111358-01.jpg

Also took some time to clean up some asphalt spots on the side of my fender/door. They wouldn't come off in a normal wash, so I used turtle wax rubbing compound. Also awesome stuff.

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a70/thesewallsbleed2/1229111606-00.jpg

Next, I installed my Accord rear lip. This is a fairly common mod for 4th gen preludes and it really does a lot for the rear end, in my opinion. I plan to paint match it when I paint the rest of the car.

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a70/thesewallsbleed2/1228111611-00-1.jpg

Also picked up a greddy shift knob (with the red insert, go figure!) from a guy on craigslist. $25 for a $70 knob isn't bad. I love the weight too. Sorry for the blurry picture, I was driving, lol. You can see my reflection in the indash touchscreen. :D

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a70/thesewallsbleed2/20111230232841.jpg

Lastly, I REALLY needed to address my front lip fitment. I showed up at the last prelude meet with it halfway hanging on and was really embarrassed. Here's a pic from that meet. (courtesy of Davis' girl)

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a70/thesewallsbleed2/SANY4044.jpg

It's an ebay lip to begin with, but I had no clue the fitment/mounting would be THIS bad. There was no flat edge to screw/bolt through to mount the lip around the curve of the bumper, so I had to use a cutting wheel on the dremel and make my own edge in several spots around the lip. Thankfully, it's on the inside so you can't see it. Here's the lip after being stretched/cut/bent/screwed/taped for about an hour.

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a70/thesewallsbleed2/20111230234454.jpg

Almost forgot, i mounted my catch can too. Not much to say, Greddy catch can, painted chrome red.

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a70/thesewallsbleed2/1230111553-00.jpg

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a70/thesewallsbleed2/1230111553-01.jpg

[iamdallas]

Subscribed!

[uho]

do i spy new defi's behind the cluster?

[Drummerboy]

do i spy new defi's behind the cluster?

you get half credit. They are new gauges, but not defi. I just switched from digital to analog.

[Wicho_ej6]

keep us updated bro

[ludeguy420]

damn man looks good.. how much power are you looking to get?

[msanch24]

Finally! lol. lookin good man. I love to see hard work on here.

[Drummerboy]

damn man looks good.. how much power are you looking to get?

enough for it to move, lol. I've heard these motors can hold 380-400 with just head/main studs. I thought about pushing that, but for now, I'll be happy to make 300whp.


Finally! lol. lookin good man. I love to see hard work on here.

Who you tellin?! lol. I was having DREAMS of driving this thing, it's getting pretty sad.

[ludeguy420]

damn wish my eg had that.. im going to do the minime swap then maybe boost but im not sure yet... money is tight these days

[uho]

you get half credit. They are new gauges, but not defi. I just switched from digital to analog.

I knew I spied some digital gauges. But they look a lil like defi's but can't really tell. So what are they?

[Drummerboy]

damn wish my eg had that.. im going to do the minime swap then maybe boost but im not sure yet... money is tight these days

You're in winder? I'm in Social circle, not far.

do you still have the 3rd gen?

Jim, I honestly dont remember. It's been so long since I looked at them. I want to say glowshift though.

[uho]

Jim, I honestly dont remember. It's been so long since I looked at them. I want to say glowshift though.

ah okay i gotcha they look sweet from what i can see

[EmminoDaGreat]

Lmk when u wanna run ;)

[Franco Tirador]

what's the compression on that dual cam? i thought it has a high compression motor.... anyhow props on putting in work, plans sound real good

[uho]

http:First time the motor has left the car since November 1995
[IMG]http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a70/thesewallsbleed2/DSCN1815.jpg

1995? how can that be isnt your lude a 96???

[JDMDA_1.7]

keep up good work man.

[Drummerboy]

what's the compression on that dual cam? i thought it has a high compression motor.... anyhow props on putting in work, plans sound real good

Compression is 9.5:1, not very high. Although its a bit of a step up from 8.8:1 in the single cam. Plan is to run low boost for a while until I see how it holds up. Eventually I'll be building the bottom end, throwing in cams and head studs, but for now, I just want to cruise. I had my fun going fast, lol.


1995? how can that be isnt your lude a 96???

Build date was November, 1995. But its a 96 model.

[uho]

^^^ ah okay i gotcha

[h23bb2]

so somebody finally went dual cam. hahaha!!!
congrats man!!

[Drummerboy]

haha can't pass up a (basically) $40 motor. I'm a bit worried about the "unknown" factor with this motor though. we'll see how 9.5:1 CR does with boost. Shouldn't be too bad though.

[ludeguy420]

[QUOTE=Drummerboy;39233890]You're in winder? I'm in Social circle, not far.

do you still have the 3rd gen?
i hate to say it but no :( i had to sell it.. it had a rod start to knock an i tried finding a b20a5 but i couldnt find one any where for a good price.. i miss that car

[uho]

unknown?

[Drummerboy]

yeah, because this isn't a common swap (at all) and there arnt many known FACTS about this motor. but the theory is that its basically an H23 head with F22 block.

[uho]

ah okay i gotcha well hopefully its good to go. im sure it is

[Drummerboy]

Updated first post

[tdurr]

It's gonna be slow.

[Drummerboy]

almost as slow as that pento you're driving.

[tdurr]

sucks that ur doing all this to run 16s

[Drummerboy]

sucks that ur doing all this to run 16s

http://garth.typepad.com/primitive_screwheads/images/2007/06/22/bravelittletoasterchokeabitch.jpg

[Genji-Sama]

sucks that ur doing all this to run 16s

lololol :goodjob:

[iamdallas]

sucks that ur doing all this to run 16s

Yup. I'm right with you, man. Because the only thing that has ever mattered in the history of the automobile is how fast a car can drive an 8th of a mile from a stand still.

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[Drummerboy]

Yup. I'm right with you, man. Because the only thing that has ever mattered in the history of the automobile is how fast a car can drive an 8th of a mile from a stand still.

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He's just mad because they put his class in the antique class at ams.

[tdurr]

He's just mad because they put his class in the antique class at ams.



It's true :(

[tdurr]

Yup. I'm right with you, man. Because the only thing that has ever mattered in the history of the automobile is how fast a car can drive an 8th of a mile from a stand still.

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It's the 1/4 mile u newb.

[iamdallas]

It's the 1/4 mile u newb.

Most accessible tracks that I know of are an eighth of a mile. And the quarter is projected and derived.

[tdurr]

U know nothing then! Lulz

[revenge]

good setup keep up the good work!

[tdurr]

I'll keep my hard work going
:p

[Drummerboy]

^ haha so true

[DeeAOne]

I dont think I've seen this thread until now. Putting in work! Nice. :goodjob:

[tdurr]

^ haha so true

:D

[iamdallas]

It makes me miss my Lude soooo much. :(

[Drummerboy]

Radiator and Lip came in today. After the tune, I'll be spending some time sanding my accord rear lip and then painting both lips (front and rear). Also Going to mount my wink mirror and work out where to put my boost controller.

[Drummerboy]

Updated first post. Start up video!

[tdurr]

ur still a buster

[DA9_Vito]

cant wait to see dyno numbers. nice swap man.

[chaseamundo]

What do you use to tune the F series?

[EmminoDaGreat]

Same thing to tune any honda...

[tdurr]

What do you use to tune the F series?

He used his addititonal injector controller and a btm I think

[Drummerboy]

What do you use to tune the F series?

I was using:
Aquamist MF-2 Injector controller
MSD Boost Timing Master
(Both for sale now)

Now Im using:
Greddy Emanage Ultimate

[chaseamundo]

oh very nice. why not just regular hondata?

[Drummerboy]

oh very nice. why not just regular hondata?

I got a great deal with the Emanage, and it has a couple features that I like. a friend of mine is using it on his 1200awhp Dodge Stealth, So I figured if it's good enough for that, It's good enough for my +/- 300whp honda. lol.

[Drummerboy]

Need some help. It cranks and idles pretty good. But I tap the throttle and it floods out. If I very slowly push the throttle it will rev up and A/F Ratio goes to 10.0 (AEM Wideband). Put it in gear, try to drive, it floods out and stalls.

As of right now, Im using the stock injectors because the 550's were too big without a tune.

Any ideas? Possibly need a missing link on MAP sensor?

[tdurr]

U DON'T NEED A MISSING LINK!! Lol I'm not gonna tell u again. Btw just tow it to batlgrounds. And let em fix it. Is it still throwing a code?

[Drummerboy]

No code. Missing link was my only guess before I realized im tuning off NOTHING right now, lol.

On start up, AFR is at 17.5 then every second (I assume that's how often the ecu gets a signal from...something) it will tick down .1 (17.5,17.4,17.3....) So I really think its the abundance of mods with the lack of management.

Towing to Batlground as soon as tag and insurance are solid.

[Drummerboy]

2 updates! forgot to say it last time.

[EmminoDaGreat]

Told you a while ago to get rid of that emanage!!!

[Dirka Dirka]

yeah bro, emanage is HORRIBLE. Hope everything goes as planned! Im ready to see this bad boy back on the street.

[Drummerboy]

lol, at the time i bought the emanage, I had access to free installation and free tuning, but that friendship kinda dwindled out. So I made lemonade.

[98blackcivic]

u bastard!!! u sold urs too???? wtfff
well i still have my bb2...and boyyyy lemme tell u
i just got it back

replaced most recently:
axles
inner and outer tie rods
kyb gr 2 struts
springs/sturt bars all around
master cylinder and slave cylinder
abs pump, modulator, reservoir
alignment
and i bought me a set of sawblades with fresh ass nitto tires

once i get my car reinsured and registered again, im gonna go ahead and start rebuilding the dizzy and related components and all the related stuff to fuel delivery

this car runs great and i cant dream about getting rid of it
especially after spending close to $2500 in mostly parts and a little labor in one yr
i keep replacing shit and doing preventative maintance !

[98blackcivic]

and u ran 30 psi on stock block? what gave out?

[Drummerboy]

lol, did you miss the "jk"? I didnt really sell it. Just changing the EMS. Thats alot of replacing. If you need a dizzy let me know. I've got 2 more i think. At least 1. and a couple intake manifolds. and a pretty much everything else...lol. lmk if you need something. Gotta clear out my garage.

[Drummerboy]

Import Alliance Update

[tdurr]

this car ran like 22psi on the stock unopened motor. stock hg and studs. stupid.(the f22)

[iamdallas]

I would be... irate. And slap them bastards.

Any update on them fixing your stuff?

[98blackcivic]

i think drummberboy is now my new prelude friend...
gotta have someone to look up to

[Austin?]

Any more picture?

[Drummerboy]

Any more picture?

I need to take some while I'm home. Its on jack stands right now so I can find the oil leaks. Found 1 today at the cam seal, i'll be checking for more tomorrow.

[EmminoDaGreat]

So..... Where is the dyno sheet ?

[Drummerboy]

in the glove box. lol. 202/189 @ 6.5psi. When I get around a scanner (next week) I'll post it up.

Found out my boost gauge is reading approx 10psi less than boost reading at the ecu. I ran "12psi" daily (1.5 hrs to georgia state, 5 days a week) for 2 years. So, somewhere around 22psi? That's why Tdurr refers to the old f22a as a "freak motor". And that would explain the huge drop in power from the last setup to this one.

[Drummerboy]

Next motor phase is in the works. A couple things to change up and attempt. Not only am I new to internal work, but this motor is fairly unexplored. So it should be interesting to see what happens. Here's the plan:

-F20B VTEC head
-H22 intake manifold (skunk2 or euro R)
-H22 Ram horn turbo Manifold
-ARP head studs
-Bisimoto Head gasket
-Wire up vtec
-retune
-12 psi

Should make 300+

[EmminoDaGreat]

shit I made 330 on a stock F23, you better make 300 on a dohc vtec head ...

[Drummerboy]

lol, I made 347/313 on a stock f22 @ 22psi. I'm just shooting low for now, if im surprised, sweet! If not, oh well.

Gotta figure out the head gasket issue for the f20b head swap.

[Western.]

That is one darn clean/sic lude Dude, the next time the GPC has a meet you should definitely be there! We will probably be doing a rollout to the varsity in a couple weeks, so join the GPC Facebook group and we'll keep you updated!

[Drummerboy]

lol, I don't have a facebook. Thanks for the compliments though! I'm trying hard to get everything cleaned up for the meet on the 14th.

[Western.]

Aright man…I'll keep you updated then!

[allmotor-teg]

nice work.

[Drummerboy]

Thanks man, still needs some work, but I'm almost back to where I was. 300whp+ very soon.

[Drummerboy]

huge update on the first page!

[Drummerboy]

Almost added another mini-update, lol. I forgot to post up my catch can.

[Apex i ITR]

Nice but please for the love of God do NOT put the SSR center caps on the Rota's. You will look like the worlds biggest poser. Not to mention confirm the reason why so many people hate replica wheels. Keep the Rota centers on or nothing. Other then that nice project.

[Drummerboy]

yeah, It was just an idea. But I just hate that I lost $1200 to a scam, then like 350 for center caps! lol. We'll see.

[Sinfix_15]

Nice but please for the love of God do NOT put the SSR center caps on the Rota's. You will look like the worlds biggest poser. Not to mention confirm the reason why so many people hate replica wheels. Keep the Rota centers on or nothing. Other then that nice project.

nope, he'll look like someone with SSR wheels, because most of you couldnt tell the difference between real and "fake" wheels in a line up.

[dvpjdm]

Thats a cute little intercooler, you wanna run em? $1000 from a dig, ill run my slicks or my street tires, whichever you prefer? 1/8 or 1/4 mile. you don't wanna do a 1/2 with me.

[Drummerboy]

...who the fuck?

[dvpjdm]

Im the one with the big intercooler that has "too much over hang" right? do you want to run it? not who the fuck, its what the fuck.:king:

[Drummerboy]

lol, I wasn't saying anything bad about your car man, calm down. I understand fuction over form. If everything you said is true, I'm not making power anywhere close to you. Also, I'm in college...I don't have $1000... Fuck, let's be real, I don't have $100.

[dvpjdm]

hahaha lol i feel you man, Ive just been dying for a race. its at midnight atl getting finished right now, Im new around here so don't know many of the racers. is there a street scene here?

[Drummerboy]

Varsity meets are always pretty cool. Moreland Ave. is where alot of people race, but cops show up alot. And then Barrett Prkwy is a cool place to chill on the weekends with everybody. I'm more into the chill stuff unless I'm at the track or in mexico.

[CSquared]

hahaha lol i feel you man, Ive just been dying for a race. its at midnight atl getting finished right now, Im new around here so don't know many of the racers. is there a street scene here?

Calm down there brian spillner.

[dvpjdm]

I don't talk to haters, haters are like crickets.

[Sol-Badguy]

I don't talk to haters, haters are like crickets.

They.. chirp?

[CSquared]

They.. chirp?

They can jump ridiculously far in proportion to their body size?

[CSquared]

I don't talk to llamas btw... If you hate crickets, I hate mother fucking llamas. I would not talk to a llama if you paid me.

[AfroMan]

dayum man. just now seein this. its nice. kinda miss mine now. stuck n a dayum 4 dr civic lol

[98blackcivic]

makes me not want to sell mine...theres a good chance ill keep it...