1996 Integra won't start

[Captain-Obvious™]

Just swapped a JDM LS into a 96 Integra. I have a ground on the tranny, valve cover, and the ECU ground on the them housing. The fuel pump primes randomly, and when it does the CeL comes on, then flashed the codes I have since I jumped the ECU.....

Sometimes the pump primes, sometimes it doesn't. I cleaned the ground off real good and I still cant get it to prime everytime. Also, the car won't even turn over. I hear the main relay click, and the starter click, but it won't turn over.

[NoWAyItZTOMmY]

do you have starter wire plugged in?

[Captain-Obvious™]

do you have starter wire plugged in?

I'm not retarded. Yes I do.

But on a lighter note, I got everything working with a few hours of elbow grease. So no more problems...so far.

[Tech5]

It's not about being dumb even us well educated Certified techs makes mistakes .

[Captain-Obvious™]

Ok, so now the car just hiccups when it cranks over but won't actually start up. The injectors are squirting and the spark plugs are firing. Anybody have any suggestions on what might be causing this.

[silversol]

gas fouled plugs will keep it from starting

[Captain-Obvious™]

Yeah I just replaced the plugs 10 minutes ago, and the same thing. Car acts like it wants to start but won't actually fire.

[joshk5145]

timing?

[RBS]

firing order is wrong

[VickNotic]

SELL IT

[im_hung]

is the motor obd2?

[gsrteg]

make sure you starter is okay. Check to see if the main power cable to you starter is secure and tight. If all is good, tap the starter housing mildly with mallet or wrench and try starting the car afterwards.

[Captain-Obvious™]

I haven't touched the timing since I got the motor, yes it is obd2. The only code that's up on the ecu right now is for intake air temp. And the jdm intake manifolds don't even have that sensor.

[Tech5]

spray carb cleaner into the tb and see try to crank it ...This will tell you if it's fuel related issue .

[NOCLUE]

:goodjob:
spray carb cleaner into the tb and see try to crank it ...This will tell you if it's fuel related issue .

[Bacon]

firing order is wrong

I was thinking something with the dizzy also.

[gsrteg]

Try putting the car into 2nd gear, ask a few friends to push the car down the street while you're in it, and crank the engine and give it some gas. This should start the car.

[Tech5]

Try putting the car into 2nd gear, ask a few friends to push the car down the street while you're in it, and crank the engine and give it some gas. This should start the car.:screwy::screwy::screwy::screwy::no::no::no::n o:

[gsrteg]

:screwy::screwy::screwy::screwy::no::no::no::no:

http://www.ehow.com/how_7414_push-start-car.html

[Captain-Obvious™]

I know how to push start a car, and you should only do that with a dead starter or battery. And neither my battery or starter is dead. My firing order is correct. The car kinda half started for 2 seconds or so with generous manipulation of the throttle. But didn't ever really fire.

[Tech5]

DID you spray carb cleaner in the tb and try to crank?

[Tech5]

http://www.ehow.com/how_7414_push-start-car.html



DUDE you don't know anything please stop you're making yourself look dumb!!

His battery and start is clearly working fine fool!

Don't try to school me I am a ASE certified Honda/Acura Mechanic and been doing this for a LONG time !

[Captain-Obvious™]

DID you spray carb cleaner in the tb and try to crank?

Haven't had a chance to work on the car for the last couple days. I'll try out the suggestions on here and get back to ya'll tonight.

[Tech5]

This will eliminate the fuel system that's why I am checking ...let us know thanks!

[Captain-Obvious™]

Still didn't start. I'm pretty sure the compression is bad. Probly got sold a bullshit motor.

[Tech5]

Do a Compression check takes 2 mins

[RBS]

even though you stated you did not touch the timing, i advise you to check it and correct it if it is wrong.

[Captain-Obvious™]

even though you stated you did not touch the timing, i advise you to check it and correct it if it is wrong.

I did check it. And it's dead on the money.

I'm doing a compression check tomorrow.

[Tech5]

keep us updated

[RBS]

take the dizzy cap off and make sure the rotor button is secured

[NeWTRouBLeArMy]

^ and check to make sure the dizzy isnt 180 out i had that problem last night and it was doing the same thing

[Tech5]

take the dizzy cap off and make sure the rotor button is secured

He stated it's firing

[Tech5]

^ and check to make sure the dizzy isnt 180 out i had that problem last night and it was doing the same thing

if someone does this you have to be a complete retard , So if don't fit make it fit ?

[RBS]

if someone does this you have to be a complete retard , So if don't fit make it fit ?

i have seen kiddos do this plenty of times, they force the dizzy on LOL

[Captain-Obvious™]

I did not force the distributor on. And it is sparking. I'm waiting on my friend to bring the comp tester over this evening. And I'll go from there.

[Captain-Obvious™]

I poured oil in the cylinders and turned the motor over a few times until the compression came up. Originally I had none. The car then started up but idled really rough. I ran the codes and got both 02s obviously, and IAT obviously. Then I had a TPS code and the CKP code. I did the ECU CKP bypass and the CKP code went away. The ECU is still in safe mode however and won't rev past 2700. The codes I have now are IAT 2 02 codes and TPS. Any ideas?

[NeWTRouBLeArMy]

if someone does this you have to be a complete retard , So if don't fit make it fit ?

no not force it on i had the dizzy apart and put the end peice on the wrong way, so if hes not using the dizzy he had someone could have had it apart and out it together wrong

[gerardojdm]

The compression will show low if a motor has sat for over a period of time.

[RBS]

check your TPS wiring for any broken connection, corrosion, peanut butter and other odd things.

[*EFilliated*]

i might of missed this but is the motor OBD2? obd2 is way more in depth when it comes to missing sensors, it will take everything u are missing such as IAT into consideration, and its POSSIBLE for it to keep u in limp mode just cuz of the IAT. get a DMM and check the TPS for a voltage close to 5 at WOT. if ur voltage does not change as u engage and disengage the throttle ur TPS is bad/REPLACE. if the voltage does change, that isnt ur problem and begin looking somewhere else


I poured oil in the cylinders and turned the motor over a few times until the compression came up. Originally I had none. The car then started up but idled really rough. I ran the codes and got both 02s obviously, and IAT obviously. Then I had a TPS code and the CKP code. I did the ECU CKP bypass and the CKP code went away. The ECU is still in safe mode however and won't rev past 2700. The codes I have now are IAT 2 02 codes and TPS. Any ideas?

[Captain-Obvious™]

Swapped out the whole throttle body with one that had its original TPS still attached. Car started right up and runs and idles fine. Now it's time to throw the axles in, bleed the clutch, and fill up the tranny.

Thanks for all the pointers dudes. It's much appreciated.

[*EFilliated*]

so it was the throttle body?

[Sir_Christopher]

Is your fuel pump wired backwards?
Are the fuel lines clogged.

What ecu are you using

[RBS]

im assuming it was his TPS sensor itself that was bad

[Code-Aye]

^^^^
Tps cause probelms if the ecu doesn't know how much throttle your giving then it doesn't know how much fuel to give, which cause it to run like shit. Caption obvious changed the whole throttle body and now run perfect

[SX-MAN]

Main fuel relay

[Captain-Obvious™]

Do you guys read? This thread is resolved already.

[*EFilliated*]

haha i meant to say tps, just wondering if it was wat i suggested. well glad u fixed it. later


Do you guys read? This thread is resolved already.

[tuyen]

By reading this post got some ideal what to look for I also got a 01 gsr that won't start. It an original motor oneday it start working I'ma look at it this weekend.

[terrytowe22]

Check rotor button make sure screw did not come loose

[terrytowe22]

Mistake just read u resolve the prob g/l