b16a2 in a 94 integra

[b20vtecrr]

im about to buy a 94 4 door integra thats got a b16a2....right off the bat i know the swap is obd2 and the wiring is obd1..can anyone enlighten me on whats missing that the swap needs thats not in with the obd 1 harness???? like whats the difference between obd1 and obd2 bc for some reason it wants to jerk spiratically and sometimes itll bog down and die..im not sure if thats a tps/iacv problem...i know from looking at the bay that there are at least 2 free plugs that arent being used..the dizzy is new..like ill go to crank it itll run for a few minutes and then die and become a pain in the dick to restart. driving down the road paying att to the rpm, ill notice itll "twitch" on me and thats when it dies...ANY HELP ON THIS OBD BOG ISSUE WOULD BE APPRECIATED

[Starrfire]

any codes? what ecu

[b20vtecrr]

man i havent had the chance to unscrew that plastic piece to see what ecu as soon as i do and i figure out what codes ill post em on here

[b20vtecrr]

well dont know the codes but its a p28 awesome i was hopin it was a p28 idk if its chipped or not its at my buddys

[B18c1Turboed]

CODES= CHECK ENGINE LIGHT WOULD BE ON!!!!

[b20vtecrr]

o yea i know that i meant i didnt know WHAT codes it is throwing, but yea cel is on fersure, on the way home it died on me ab 4 times and it takes forever to start back up...initial startup, itll run for ab 30sec then die, everytime...i dont have an obd code tester so ill have to take a paper clip and plug it into that green plug..is there anything special i need to do when i do that?

[b20vtecrr]

idk why someone would swap an obd2 motor into an obd1 car...i guess thats why its uncommon

[Bacon]

idk why someone would swap an obd2 motor into an obd1 car...i guess thats why its uncommon

It's common to use an OBD2 motor in an OBD1 car ie. B20 in an EH Civic.

I don't know why someone would put a B16 in a DC Integra unless they used that block and bored it out.

[Black4DrEK]

o yea i know that i meant i didnt know WHAT codes it is throwing, but yea cel is on fersure, on the way home it died on me ab 4 times and it takes forever to start back up...initial startup, itll run for ab 30sec then die, everytime...i dont have an obd code tester so ill have to take a paper clip and plug it into that green plug..is there anything special i need to do when i do that?


Yea. Pin that plug. Then Count the light flashes, from the CEL

[b20vtecrr]

greatly appreciated i kinda wanna check it tnite but its like 25 out right now ill be posting the codes it reads for more help, i kinda feel like its iacv tps issues but idk why either of those would cause it to die,,,,it doesnt idle surge,, but it bogs like hell

[EmminoDaGreat]

I would be more concerned on the fact someone put a B16 in a dc. lol.. OBD2 motors and OBD1 motors all work the same, its all a matter of ecu's and sensors.

[Black4DrEK]

I would be more concerned on the fact someone put a B16 in a dc. lol.. OBD2 motors and OBD1 motors all work the same, its all a matter of ecu's and sensors.


Shit. I have seen worse.. A DC integra with a D SERIES SOHC engine in it. STOCK!!! Not that greeen boosted one either.......

[Bacon]

Just let us know what the codes are and we can give more help.

[b20vtecrr]

thanks bacon, all it shows is 7 it blinks 7 times nothin else keep in mind i see two free hanging plugs in the bay

[Black4DrEK]

You sure its just seven quick blinks...

[Starrfire]

Shit in japan the low end integra's came with d series engines. A b16 would feel great by comparison. Slow still but better than a d15.

[Bacon]

thanks bacon, all it shows is 7 it blinks 7 times nothin else keep in mind i see two free hanging plugs in the bay

Forget the two free standing plugs in the bay for the time being.

Of the blinks, how many are slow blinks and how many are fast blinks?

[Starrfire]

Tps will definitely make for a bucking stuttering ride

[b20vtecrr]

yea just seven quick blinks its tps i knew it man!!!!! lol, but still that wouldnt necessarily cause it to die and bog would it???? i mean i went ahead and grinded the rivets off that tps bc its riveted to the intake manifold (the cel for tps was on beforehand) and i rebolted it to be able to adjust it and i noticed some buildup kinda like battery terminals do they build up that blue stuff but it was yellow so i think the tps is bad but would it cause it to bog down and die randomly??????

[b20vtecrr]

yea true my gsr hatch killllllllleeddd me with the tps,,, but it wasnt riveted to the intake manifold....i dont understand why that is i mean what did they think when someones tps went bad they had to buy a whole new intake manifold setup lolllll i grinded those rivets off and rebolted it to the im in order to adjust it but i dont think it was meant to be adjusted

[Bacon]

What color are the wires on that TPS plug?

[b20vtecrr]

bacon- just 7 quick blinks i sat there for ab 30 sec just to see if there were anymore, and all it did was - - - - - - -............ - - - - - - -...........- - - - - - -

[b20vtecrr]

red green and yellow with a green stripe

[b20vtecrr]

i think im gonna buy a blox tps, and a skunk2 intake manifold, and a bn iacv from honda...i originally though the dizzy was bad but its bn i took it apart and its all brand new...the rotor button looks good

[Bacon]

red green and yellow with a green stripe

Was an OBD2 harness used?

[b20vtecrr]

thats where i run out of answers.....i would imagine not since im running a p28????????????? i dont see a jumper harness either soo i think its still obd1 bro

[jdmalltheway]

you mean jimmy from jj spec teg.....that motor long gone by now...but got to give him props for that....

[Black4DrEK]

^^ That post deff was not needed.

Get you a Good TPS and see what happends from there

[Starrfire]

The blox tps sensor's from what I've seen are always a bit off. They don't have the exact figures an oem one would from the few I've put on. Its always kinda off. Look it up on the internet how to do it with pics. It would be easier than me explaining it.

[b20vtecrr]

ok guys....soo girlfriends four door had a flat today, i took off towards her in my car, all the sudden i felt like i was ridin a bull.. thats how bad it is jerkn..now it wont start period....my buddys got a tps getn it tomorrow..i dont own a voltmeter so theres no way for me to ohm it out. im just gonna do it the hard way and drive n adjust drive n adjust til i get it right.....hell it wont even clutch start.....i really hope its tha tps bc i couldnt imagine what it is if its boggin down really bad and being soooo stubborn to start....THANK YOU GUYS for the help i hardly ever use ia anymore bc theres some dudes on here that are dicks soo thanks its nice to be able to ask a question or get help wo getn a smartass answer in return... preciate it..ill keep you guys posted on what the tps does or doesnt do...

[Starrfire]

Voltmeters are incredibly inexpensive. you won't be able to get it "right" by guessing.

[b20vtecrr]

ok cool thanks for your help starrfire, im incredibly broke right now so a 50 dollar tps is out of the question. its either 30 online and 16 for next day shipping, or 47 at autozone or and in town parts store that will STILL have to special order it

[Starrfire]

I'd rather have a used good oem one for almost nothing as long as it checks out.

[b20vtecrr]

i wish i could find a used one

[b20vtecrr]

alright UPDATE GUYS- got a good used oem tps, i put it on nice n tight with 2 bolts i bought at oreillys, it took it a second to start but it ended up starting and running for ab 20 secs and died again like it did before, i couldnt get it restarted but there were a couple of times where it was trying to startup again but it never came around...i didnt adjust the tps bc i didnt see the need to....fuel pump is humming so i know its good the dizzy is new so i know its getn spark idk what else it could be...even if the plugs were bad or plug wires it would still start it would just be missing right???idk what else to do......PLEASE HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Bacon]

Timing?

[Sneezin]

Timing?

^^have you checked the timing yet?

[b20vtecrr]

no i dont exactly know how to check timing, i tapped on the distributor, and it started..wth is goin on??????????????

[b20vtecrr]

i dont understand why it starts an runs for 20 seconds, then dies, then i tap on the distributor and it starts

[Bacon]

You have a wiring problem there.

[b20vtecrr]

well its obd2 motor in obd1 car i would imagine so, i mean theres two free plugs in there that ive found im gonna replace the dizz and rotor button this weekend, and hopefully this thing will run

[Sneezin]

no i dont exactly know how to check timing, i tapped on the distributor, and it started..wth is goin on??????????????

did you try to start it before you tapped on it and it wouldn't start, or was you trying to start it and it wouldn't then you tapped it and it fired right up? and does it run smooth for 20 sec the just straight cut off? or does it run rough the whole time?

[b20vtecrr]

both man i didnt think ab that lol i was just tryin to start it up and then i tried tapping on it and it started up and no its runs smooth as hell for those 20 seconds

[Sneezin]

borrow someones dizzy and ecu and give it a whirl,,,

[psycho_freke]

I would be more concerned on the fact someone put a B16 in a dc. lol.. OBD2 motors and OBD1 motors all work the same, its all a matter of ecu's and sensors.

Why would they put the B16 in a DC? Because they wanted the motor for their ef/eg/ek/crx swap... They may have gotten a good deal on the car, bought it and swapped the motors, and then turned around and sold it. Some people prefer a civic over an Integra because of how light they are, or perhaps they just like the way they look better.

I personally miss my teg, but it's more cost effective for me to swap the GSR motor into the DX I got cheap and sell all of the parts left over then to buy another teg :cry:

[Bacon]

Why would they put the B16 in a DC? Because they wanted the motor for their ef/eg/ek/crx swap... They may have gotten a good deal on the car, bought it and swapped the motors, and then turned around and sold it. Some people prefer a civic over an Integra because of how light they are, or perhaps they just like the way they look better.

I personally miss my teg, but it's more cost effective for me to swap the GSR motor into the DX I got cheap and sell all of the parts left over then to buy another teg :cry:

Post full of non-sense. If they wanted the motor for a Civic, they should have put it in a Civic; not an Integra.

[b20vtecrr]

i might have to find someone with a good dizzy to borrow, i never woulda thought of that, thanks fellas, o yeah someone told the dude im buying the car from the "gas sensors" are bad hahahahahhahahaha i was like bro, i dont think these motors have gas sensors lol

[psycho_freke]

Post full of non-sense. If they wanted the motor for a Civic, they should have put it in a Civic; not an Integra.

My bad on the not realizing this part of the conversation was over pages ago since I didn't notice the multiple pages...

BS on the nonsense. Re-read (slowly this time) and maybe you'll understand. If someone owned a civic, and wanted a B18xx in their car... you following me? Then found a good deal on an Integra... They may have bought the Integra for the motor, then swapped the Integra motor into the civic. Then, they could turn around and put the civic motor into the Integra and sell it to someone as a running vehicle in order to sell it faster, and for more money than they would get out of it if it was only a rolling shell.

Done speaking on this subject now, since it was over with days ago. Just had to clarify since "Bacon" was calling "non-sense".