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WAT TURBO?
01-25-2011, 06:16 PM
Picked this sucker up the other day from nashville. Im super excited about it.

1991 MR2 turbo Tbar 5spd

Engine:
ACL bearings
Wiseco pistons (forged alum)
K1 rods
Stock crank
Ported stock head
880cc injectors
HKS 272 cams w/ adjustable cam gears
Jackson racing fabricated intake with BBK 70mm TB
Tubular exhaust manifold
67mm turbo, OBX WG, Greddy adj BOV (soon to be changed)
Trunk mounted IC with dual electric fans and Subaru trunk scoop!!!

Drivetrain:
6puck clutch
SS brake and clutch lines
Drilled/slotted rotors w stock calipers
Some kind of coilovers....?
Tanabe sway bars
Every poly bushing known to man

Interior:
Seats are decent and the dash isnt cracked. The only things missing are the shift boot/knob and the radio. All the lights work as they should.

Exterior:
Some red color that apparently likes to turn pink after 20yrs. Nothing a little glazing wont cure.

WAT TURBO?
01-25-2011, 06:17 PM
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs760.ash1/165180_487855276989_506491989_6690283_6370595_n.jp g
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs800.ash1/169002_487855336989_506491989_6690284_4165766_n.jp g
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/hs055.snc6/168589_487855376989_506491989_6690285_7812889_n.jp g
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/hs260.snc6/180826_487855401989_506491989_6690286_4034626_n.jp g

Fans on the bottom of the intercooler
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/hs046.snc6/167644_487855501989_506491989_6690289_1064114_n.jp g

Jackson racing intake manifold. Needs to be polished...
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs1396.snc4/164861_487855556989_506491989_6690290_5855451_n.jp g

Anyone know what these connectors go to?
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs1360.snc4/163219_487855821989_506491989_6690293_6772394_n.jp g



:shock:
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs739.ash1/163133_487855041989_506491989_6690276_5644672_n.jp g

WAT TURBO?
01-25-2011, 06:17 PM
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/hs051.snc6/168161_487855061989_506491989_6690277_4074918_n.jp g

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs894.ash1/180266_487855086989_506491989_6690278_6447515_n.jp g

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/hs275.snc6/180393_487855126989_506491989_6690279_409914_n.jpg

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/hs245.snc6/179342_487855156989_506491989_6690280_2094199_n.jp g

Subie trunk scoop!!!!!
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/hs244.snc6/179214_487855211989_506491989_6690281_6329528_n.jp g

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs893.ash1/180177_487855251989_506491989_6690282_5814624_n.jp g


The only issue with the driveability is the ECU being stock with 880cc injectors. I Want to run megasquirt on it but a safc with the stock computer may have to do for a while. All the big name stand alones are upwards of 2k..

WAT TURBO?
01-25-2011, 06:19 PM
I am going to sell the turbo/manifold/wg setup thats on it. Should have a Precision 60/65 ball bearing turbo and a Turbosmart Racegate headed my way pretty soon.

I am also going to explore some megasquirt options. Anyone super knowledgeable on MS, I have a few technical questions. The standalone stuff for these cars are super expensive.

JITB
01-25-2011, 06:41 PM
Mega Squirt is the way to go! looks like a fun project.

importracer
01-25-2011, 07:51 PM
nice mr2 man im picking up one monday

.:Stirfry:.
01-25-2011, 07:56 PM
is this the one the folks from NJ HI-boost 1.9 made a big callout to??

Boosting EG
01-25-2011, 08:38 PM
nice car

Franco Tirador
01-25-2011, 10:37 PM
u got too many toys................


let me have one lol

NJSC
01-25-2011, 10:43 PM
What sort of numbers are you going to be shooting for?

Sunkenkarma
01-25-2011, 11:04 PM
Sweet Mr2! Has awesome potential! More pics of the FC in the background >.> lol.

WAT TURBO?
01-25-2011, 11:50 PM
u got too many toys................


let me have one lol

I bet it would make you sick if you knew how much I have in this car :)

WAT TURBO?
01-25-2011, 11:51 PM
What sort of numbers are you going to be shooting for?

shooting for 450whp range. The 91 cars didnt come with a lsd :/ Its main purpose will be daily/autox with the occasional hwy wig splitting :)

WAT TURBO?
01-25-2011, 11:51 PM
nice mr2 man im picking up one monday

Post some pics when you get it! Is it a 93+?

WAT TURBO?
01-25-2011, 11:56 PM
Pics of the FC as requested.

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs685.snc4/62570_435773716989_506491989_5861607_3024953_n.jpg


Something isnt right here.....:thinking:
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs114.snc4/36074_435773821989_506491989_5861612_6074696_n.jpg

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs975.snc4/76859_462241771989_506491989_6277527_6042118_n.jpg

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/hs060.snc6/169074_480977731989_506491989_6585028_1711853_n.jp g

Its always happy to see me
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs1387.snc4/163936_480977791989_506491989_6585030_1481629_n.jp g

WAT TURBO?
01-26-2011, 12:15 AM
Sweet Mr2! Has awesome potential! More pics of the FC in the background >.> lol.

how about a dyno video?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-erHEJ5Qfg

Sunkenkarma
01-26-2011, 01:17 AM
Turbo LS1! What?!?! lol, Why are you building an mr2 with that thing around? xD. Looks very badass.

BLACK_EK9
01-26-2011, 02:03 AM
Wow the FC is sick and the MR2 is badass too

msanch24
01-26-2011, 08:47 AM
i love these mr2's. hard.

and that fc is just nasty. pretty darn cool

Arm&hammer
01-26-2011, 01:02 PM
dam i am so jealous of both your rides i am loving the mr2 reps for you bro

brownhornet
01-26-2011, 01:10 PM
Good choice on both cars. +1

1CleanEg
01-26-2011, 01:35 PM
sick cars man!

Bowenaero
01-26-2011, 08:02 PM
That FC is sick.
And nice find on the MR2! Just need a '93 lip now lol.

Like this (Berk Technology):

http://i395.photobucket.com/albums/pp32/Bowenaero/BerkTech4.jpg

Those FN01R-Cs are the boss too. That's the route I'm planning on going with mine.

Here's another '93 lip; one of my favorite MR2 pics (guy's name is Michel on MR2OC):

http://i395.photobucket.com/albums/pp32/Bowenaero/MichelsMR2atNordschleife.jpg

And yes that's the Nordshleife.


The bigger light grey connector goes to the I/C fan (sidemount), darker one goes to the O2 sensor, and the small light grey one goes to the A/C compressor. Don't know if you have any of those though haha.

I've heard that during the first few years of production, the red MR2s had no clearcoat from the factory.

The 6-puck clutch is almost definitely an ACT if the PO didn't tell you. Very popular choice, and rightly so.

You're right about the 880cc injectors being too much for an S-AFC with stock ECU. To be making enough power to need 880s, a tubular manifold, and a TMIC, he would have needed to go standalone a long time ago. Don't know how the PO got away with that. I'm sure you can get a lot more power and tq from that setup with a standalone. And chances are you can find a good used AEM EMS or Hydra Nemesis on MR2OC for cheap. Very active for-sale forum on there.

The trunk scoop is not that effective at anything other than keeping rain out, so you're probably getting less airflow than with the stock sidemount. Probably still better though because of the core's increased surface area. If it's not your DD, you may want to take that off. Air flows over the MR2's roof and kinda tumbles over onto the wing, instead of sliding cleanly over the trunk lid. So not much flow into that small scoop. Looks cool though! lol

You're right about 91s not coming with LSD. But 93+ did. You can find a 93+ transaxle with LSD on MR2OC or RPMGarage.com for not a ton (relatively) or you can still buy a new one for ~$2100. Aftermarket LSDs are available too. Clutch-types seem to be the most popular choice (the stock one is a viscous coupling).

I can probably ID the coilovers for you if you can post up a pic. There are only like a dozen made for the SW20.

Be glad you already have the poly bushings installed! They're great, but they're very time-consuming and sometimes difficult to install.

Welcome to the addiction! Make sure you join MR2OC. Definitely an indespensable resource for the MR2 owner. Check out the Southeast regional forum; we have meets and/or mountain runs every couple of months. My name's Bowenaero over there too, so hit me up!

Bacon
01-26-2011, 08:42 PM
That FC is sick.
And nice find on the MR2! Just need a '93 lip now lol.

Like this (Berk Technology):

http://i395.photobucket.com/albums/pp32/Bowenaero/BerkTech4.jpg

Those FN01R-Cs are the boss too. That's the route I'm planning on going with mine.

Here's another '93 lip; one of my favorite MR2 pics (guy's name is Michel on MR2OC):

http://i395.photobucket.com/albums/pp32/Bowenaero/MichelsMR2atNordschleife.jpg

And yes that's the Nordshleife.


The bigger light grey connector goes to the I/C fan (sidemount), darker one goes to the O2 sensor, and the small light grey one goes to the A/C compressor. Don't know if you have any of those though haha.

I've heard that during the first few years of production, the red MR2s had no clearcoat from the factory.

The 6-puck clutch is almost definitely an ACT if the PO didn't tell you. Very popular choice, and rightly so.

You're right about the 880cc injectors being too much for an S-AFC with stock ECU. To be making enough power to need 880s, a tubular manifold, and a TMIC, he would have needed to go standalone a long time ago. Don't know how the PO got away with that. I'm sure you can get a lot more power and tq from that setup with a standalone. And chances are you can find a good used AEM EMS or Hydra Nemesis on MR2OC for cheap. Very active for-sale forum on there.

The trunk scoop is not that effective at anything other than keeping rain out, so you're probably getting less airflow than with the stock sidemount. Probably still better though because of the core's increased surface area. If it's not your DD, you may want to take that off. Air flows over the MR2's roof and kinda tumbles over onto the wing, instead of sliding cleanly over the trunk lid. So not much flow into that small scoop. Looks cool though! lol

You're right about 91s not coming with LSD. But 93+ did. You can find a 93+ transaxle with LSD on MR2OC or RPMGarage.com for not a ton (relatively) or you can still buy a new one for ~$2100. Aftermarket LSDs are available too. Clutch-types seem to be the most popular choice (the stock one is a viscous coupling).

I can probably ID the coilovers for you if you can post up a pic. There are only like a dozen made for the SW20.

Be glad you already have the poly bushings installed! They're great, but they're very time-consuming and sometimes difficult to install.

Welcome to the addiction! Make sure you join MR2OC. Definitely an indespensable resource for the MR2 owner. Check out the Southeast regional forum; we have meets and/or mountain runs every couple of months. My name's Bowenaero over there too, so hit me up!

Noob with his first post on IA being very informative. Don't see many of these around. Other nooblets should take note.

DVSRX-7
01-26-2011, 09:01 PM
Love the FC

Bowenaero
01-26-2011, 09:10 PM
Haha, didn't realize that was my first post. I've done my time on other forums lol...

civic gsr
01-26-2011, 10:10 PM
damn that rx7 means business nice toys

revenge
01-26-2011, 10:16 PM
nice rx7.

WAT TURBO?
01-26-2011, 11:53 PM
That FC is sick.
And nice find on the MR2! Just need a '93 lip now lol.

Like this (Berk Technology):

http://i395.photobucket.com/albums/pp32/Bowenaero/BerkTech4.jpg

Those FN01R-Cs are the boss too. That's the route I'm planning on going with mine.

Here's another '93 lip; one of my favorite MR2 pics (guy's name is Michel on MR2OC):

http://i395.photobucket.com/albums/pp32/Bowenaero/MichelsMR2atNordschleife.jpg

And yes that's the Nordshleife.


The bigger light grey connector goes to the I/C fan (sidemount), darker one goes to the O2 sensor, and the small light grey one goes to the A/C compressor. Don't know if you have any of those though haha.

I've heard that during the first few years of production, the red MR2s had no clearcoat from the factory.

The 6-puck clutch is almost definitely an ACT if the PO didn't tell you. Very popular choice, and rightly so.

You're right about the 880cc injectors being too much for an S-AFC with stock ECU. To be making enough power to need 880s, a tubular manifold, and a TMIC, he would have needed to go standalone a long time ago. Don't know how the PO got away with that. I'm sure you can get a lot more power and tq from that setup with a standalone. And chances are you can find a good used AEM EMS or Hydra Nemesis on MR2OC for cheap. Very active for-sale forum on there.

The trunk scoop is not that effective at anything other than keeping rain out, so you're probably getting less airflow than with the stock sidemount. Probably still better though because of the core's increased surface area. If it's not your DD, you may want to take that off. Air flows over the MR2's roof and kinda tumbles over onto the wing, instead of sliding cleanly over the trunk lid. So not much flow into that small scoop. Looks cool though! lol

You're right about 91s not coming with LSD. But 93+ did. You can find a 93+ transaxle with LSD on MR2OC or RPMGarage.com for not a ton (relatively) or you can still buy a new one for ~$2100. Aftermarket LSDs are available too. Clutch-types seem to be the most popular choice (the stock one is a viscous coupling).

I can probably ID the coilovers for you if you can post up a pic. There are only like a dozen made for the SW20.

Be glad you already have the poly bushings installed! They're great, but they're very time-consuming and sometimes difficult to install.

Welcome to the addiction! Make sure you join MR2OC. Definitely an indespensable resource for the MR2 owner. Check out the Southeast regional forum; we have meets and/or mountain runs every couple of months. My name's Bowenaero over there too, so hit me up!


Thanks for the info! Ill join up there too. Im on mr2.com but its not very active. I LOVE the car and havnt even driven it yet! Thats interesting on the red 91s clear coat. Mine has been repainted a while back and thats probably why.

The coilovers are JICs i think? They are adjustable on the bottom of the shock.

I was about to order some megasquirt stuff simply because I couldnt find any standalone stuff for a decent price.

Thanks again for the info!

WAT TURBO?
01-27-2011, 12:01 AM
heres the dyno video of the fc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-erHEJ5Qfg

Theycall_Metue
01-27-2011, 12:16 AM
holy shit! i would be scare as fuck driving that fc! and its the truth

WAT TURBO?
01-27-2011, 12:27 AM
holy shit! i would be scare as fuck driving that fc! and its the truth

Its VERY scary on the street even on radials. Its insta boost!

alpine_aw11
01-27-2011, 12:46 AM
I want another mr2, nice build. That motor could make some beastly numbers, 450 should be safe. People forget about how powerful the 3s can be.

WAT TURBO?
01-27-2011, 01:18 AM
yea im hoping to run at 450whp ish and maybe turn up the boost for some dyno pulls. Ive got a 60/65 ball bearing precision on the way. Should make good power

importracer
01-27-2011, 01:18 AM
Post some pics when you get it! Is it a 93+?

just a 91 turbo all stock with a intercooler upgrade

ill post up some im going to be looking for a turbo upgrade if you have some good pointers there greatly accepted.

and if you know of problems with tuning if i just upgrade turbo and nothing else yet?

WAT TURBO?
01-27-2011, 01:25 AM
just a 91 turbo all stock with a intercooler upgrade

ill post up some im going to be looking for a turbo upgrade if you have some good pointers there greatly accepted.

and if you know of problems with tuning if i just upgrade turbo and nothing else yet?

I have an entire turbo kit with your name on it! its a 67mm with obx tubular stainless manifold and wastegate. Ill let it go waay cheap. Its been on my car for 4 quick starts. Never driven with it.

for something like that, from what ive read, you can use an safc or a apexi power fc for tuning purposes. Also the 93+ computers are more tunable than the 91s.

WAT TURBO?
01-27-2011, 01:29 AM
I want another mr2, nice build. That motor could make some beastly numbers, 450 should be safe. People forget about how powerful the 3s can be.

post some pics of the aw11!

importracer
01-27-2011, 01:31 AM
pm me a price. and i know a guy that has a totaled 94 but its na can it still be used?
and what about suspension ive been looking but its very limited to choices

alpine_aw11
01-27-2011, 01:33 AM
post some pics of the aw11!

That's long gone unfortunately, I don't even have pics of her anymore. That was a fun little shit to drive for sure.

importracer
01-27-2011, 01:43 AM
lol on a side joke my buddie said his h22 hatch was going to out run the mr2 stock h22a his car will not even burn out

WAT TURBO?
01-27-2011, 02:18 AM
lol on a side joke my buddie said his h22 hatch was going to out run the mr2 stock h22a his car will not even burn out

yea i have yet to see an impressive h22....ever....


The na cars came with the 5sfe which I believe is a single cam motor. I dont know if the computers are compatible. I would guess not without some serious tuning. The good off the 94s: brakes, wheels, radio, other suspension etc. There is a thread on mr2.com about the differences. I need a ac/heat control box if he is parting it out.... you have a pm on the turbo stuff.

Theycall_Metue
01-27-2011, 08:14 AM
lol on a side joke my buddie said his h22 hatch was going to out run the mr2 stock h22a his car will not even burn out

my d series can burn out :taun:

importracer
01-27-2011, 01:08 PM
ill talk to him see what all he has

importracer
01-27-2011, 08:34 PM
i want the kit i have 3 extra turbos so let me see what the wife says

Bowenaero
01-27-2011, 08:37 PM
Thanks for the info! Ill join up there too. Im on mr2.com but its not very active. I LOVE the car and havnt even driven it yet! Thats interesting on the red 91s clear coat. Mine has been repainted a while back and thats probably why.

The coilovers are JICs i think? They are adjustable on the bottom of the shock.

I was about to order some megasquirt stuff simply because I couldnt find any standalone stuff for a decent price.

Thanks again for the info!

Yeah, mr2.com doesn't really hold a candle to mr2oc in terms of maturity, knowledge base, etc. They are still debating stuff that has been settled on mr2oc years ago lol.

If your coilovers are JIC FLTA2's, then they're some of the best, but those are rare and expensive. So my guess is you have regular JICs, which are still good, but not on the same level.

Oh and about the 5S-FE, I'm 90% sure that is a DOHC engine. And it's basically a Camry engine, so I wouldn't waste your time on performance there (whoever was wondering about that). It has the FE head, which is the economy head. The GE is the sport head (as in 3S-GE, 3S-GTE, or 2JZ-GTE, with the T standing for turbo). So anyway, most everyone who wants any kind of power in an SW20 opts for a turbo swap. They just drop in a 3S-GTE. It's just too complicated to turbocharge a 5S-FE to be worth it, in my (and the majority's) opinion. However, some high horsepower builds use the 5S crank and block to make a stroker out of their 3S-GTE, in a sense making a "5S-GTE". Makes for some great low-end torque.

importracer
01-27-2011, 09:04 PM
Yeah, mr2.com doesn't really hold a candle to mr2oc in terms of maturity, knowledge base, etc. They are still debating stuff that has been settled on mr2oc years ago lol.

If your coilovers are JIC FLTA2's, then they're some of the best, but those are rare and expensive. So my guess is you have regular JICs, which are still good, but not on the same level.

Oh and about the 5S-FE, I'm 90% sure that is a DOHC engine. And it's basically a Camry engine, so I wouldn't waste your time on performance there (whoever was wondering about that). It has the FE head, which is the economy head. The GE is the sport head (as in 3S-GE, 3S-GTE, or 2JZ-GTE, with the T standing for turbo). So anyway, most everyone who wants any kind of power in an SW20 opts for a turbo swap. They just drop in a 3S-GTE. It's just too complicated to turbocharge a 5S-FE to be worth it, in my (and the majority's) opinion. However, some high horsepower builds use the 5S crank and block to make a stroker out of their 3S-GTE, in a sense making a "5S-GTE". Makes for some great low-end torque.

that was me i was just wondering cause of the ecu only over mine. what would you say is a good tuning choice for my 3s-gte

JDMDA_1.7
01-28-2011, 12:10 AM
my buddy had one and that thing was a bitch to work on lol its like there is no space in the bay !.but looks good man.love the color.

Bowenaero
01-28-2011, 01:05 AM
that was me i was just wondering cause of the ecu only over mine. what would you say is a good tuning choice for my 3s-gte

You mean what engine management system or how to tune? Read these primers like 5 times lol, specifically the Power Primer and the 3S-GTE Engine Management article:

http://mrcontrols.com/primers/primers.htm

After all these years, the MRControls/Ricky B 3S-GTE Power Primer is still considered the authority on modifying an MR2 Turbo. The author, Ricky B, has tuned more MR2s than anyone else I think. VERY experienced in the tuning world and with MR2s specifically.

Drummerboy
01-28-2011, 01:25 AM
I agree, and I'm a prelude guy. H22's dont do it for me.

Thats why I stay with the F series!

importracer
01-28-2011, 05:52 PM
I agree, and I'm a prelude guy. H22's dont do it for me.

Thats why I stay with the F series!

i will agree i had a f22 vtec in a hatch and it was alot faster than h22 cars

importracer
01-28-2011, 05:53 PM
You mean what engine management system or how to tune? Read these primers like 5 times lol, specifically the Power Primer and the 3S-GTE Engine Management article:

http://mrcontrols.com/primers/primers.htm

After all these years, the MRControls/Ricky B 3S-GTE Power Primer is still considered the authority on modifying an MR2 Turbo. The author, Ricky B, has tuned more MR2s than anyone else I think. VERY experienced in the tuning world and with MR2s specifically.



reps for you
alot of info

WAT TURBO?
01-30-2011, 01:48 PM
Speaking of the mr2controls, I just purchased a Hydra Nemesis to use on my car. Also purchased a PT 60/65 Dual ball bearing and a turbosmart 38mm wastegate.

WAT TURBO?
01-30-2011, 04:29 PM
I made good progress this weekend on the car. Had a 2 bolt WG flange welded to the SFP, purchased a Hyrda Nemesis setup, and a PT60/65 DBB turbo. Also made my own vac pump to bleed the clutch and brakes. Had all the fuel lines made with -an fittings and stainless braided lines. Took the intake manifold off only to find a nest of stock wiring. I need to identify the IAT sensor wiring and the factory MAP sensor wiring in order for the Nemesis to work. I will end up polishing the intake manifold also. I think it will look pretty sweet. Here are some pics of the progress.

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/hs006.snc6/165640_491774331989_506491989_6745933_7376332_n.jp g
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/hs054.snc6/168448_491774401989_506491989_6745934_1670421_n.jp g

http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs896.ash1/180456_491774431989_506491989_6745935_3925457_n.jp g

Polished half of it
http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs886.ash1/179428_491774681989_506491989_6745946_3982112_n.jp g

WAT TURBO?
01-30-2011, 04:29 PM
Homemade vac pump :thumbup
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/hs070.snc6/168052_491774796989_506491989_6745948_7181335_n.jp g

Is this the factory valve cover?
http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/hs059.snc6/168920_491774876989_506491989_6745950_5400336_n.jp g

I am currently trying to find a factory wiring diagram for the engine harness. If anyone can identify these plugs, it would sure speed things up. All these are found on the intake side of the engine, under the intake manifold. Thanks!
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs745.ash1/163768_491774981989_506491989_6745953_6472901_n.jp g

[img]http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/hs076.snc6/168664_491775066989_506491989_6745955_7046647_n.jp g

I realize that some of them are for factory egr stuff and will not be used.

Got a few things on order also. Should have it going by next week or so.

WAT TURBO?
01-30-2011, 05:32 PM
i want the kit i have 3 extra turbos so let me see what the wife says

Ok sounds good. Let me know and ill get it shipped out to u.

Bowenaero
01-30-2011, 05:42 PM
Homemade vac pump :thumbup
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/hs070.snc6/168052_491774796989_506491989_6745948_7181335_n.jp g

Is this the factory valve cover?
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Yeah, it's just been polished and the "TOYOTA" letters have been dremeled off or something.


I am currently trying to find a factory wiring diagram for the engine harness. If anyone can identify these plugs, it would sure speed things up. All these are found on the intake side of the engine, under the intake manifold. Thanks!
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http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/hs279.snc6/180700_491775011989_506491989_6745954_8223337_n.jp g
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I realize that some of them are for factory egr stuff and will not be used.

Yeah, probably EGR, T-VSV, T-VIS, IAC, etc. I can't tell without seeing where they came from because I haven't really looked at any of them recently. Did you get them from underneath the manifold, like near the block, or under the throttle body near the fuel rail?

In any case, here are the Factory Service Manuals AKA BGB (Big Green Book) for the MR2. You can download them (PDF) or just view them online. These are even better than the real books because you can use CTRL - F and find any word throughout the volume. Very useful.

http://mr2oc.com/showpost.php?p=2600774&postcount=1

Volume 1 is engine stuff, Vol. 2 is chassis, and Vol. 3 is wiring diagrams. Have fun lol

P.S. Just noticed you're in AL. Check out Hux Racing. The owner, Eric Hux, knows his stuff and has had a bunch of MR2s. He's been with the scene as long as any of the vendors, and he was the first to do a lot of stuff. I think his shop's in Clearwater, AL. www.huxracingusa.com

WAT TURBO?
01-30-2011, 06:26 PM
Yeah, it's just been polished and the "TOYOTA" letters have been dremeled off or something.



Yeah, probably EGR, T-VSV, T-VIS, IAC, etc. I can't tell without seeing where they came from because I haven't really looked at any of them recently. Did you get them from underneath the manifold, like near the block, or under the throttle body near the fuel rail?

In any case, here are the Factory Service Manuals AKA BGB (Big Green Book) for the MR2. You can download them (PDF) or just view them online. These are even better than the real books because you can use CTRL - F and find any word throughout the volume. Very useful.

http://mr2oc.com/showpost.php?p=2600774&postcount=1

Volume 1 is engine stuff, Vol. 2 is chassis, and Vol. 3 is wiring diagrams. Have fun lol

P.S. Just noticed you're in AL. Check out Hux Racing. The owner, Eric Hux, knows his stuff and has had a bunch of MR2s. He's been with the scene as long as any of the vendors, and he was the first to do a lot of stuff. I think his shop's in Clearwater, AL. www.huxracingusa.com


You are the man! Thats what I was looking for. I need to figure out what I can delete and what I need to keep fort he standalone to function properly. I have hux racings phone number. I havnt called them yet.

importracer
01-30-2011, 06:42 PM
i have 50 pics of mr2 but its extremely dirty so it would not do any good. after i pull it and have it degreased ill post some pics

ghostrida3
01-30-2011, 06:53 PM
dang Bowen..not giving me a chance to answer any questions lol..
definately check out mr2oc.com over mr2.com...mr2.com i usually where all the imature idiots go that got kicked off of mr2oc for saying something stupid.
and the 5sfe was a dohc that doesnt hold a candle to the 3sgte..i
If i was gonna track the two i would go with a v6camry engine and supercharge it...if i was just goin for reliable comfortable fun on the weekends i would get a gen 3 and if i was gonna go for wild, raw dangerous power i would probably just build the crap out of a gen2 and upgrade to a bigger turbo.
Ime jeaous of you..you have such a nice base to start with.. i would sell my lil bro into slavery for that IM

as far as the valve cover it looks like the holes for the throttle body stay have been welded shut. I like that..makes it look clean imo

on the 1st pic of the plugs the square black one goes to the afm and it seems like its missing the wire clamp that comes on it..the grey one looks like it goes to one of the fuel injectors...
The pic below that : the blue one looks like it goes to the boost pressure sensor.. the brown one to the egr and the black one to the tps located on the throttle body. and the small grey one looks like it connects to a ground wire.
ille look at my car tommorow just to make sure.

WAT TURBO?
01-30-2011, 07:22 PM
Thanks for the info guys. Very helpful.

Bowenaero
01-30-2011, 08:27 PM
dang Bowen..not giving me a chance to answer any questions lol..
definately check out mr2oc.com over mr2.com...mr2.com i usually where all the imature idiots go that got kicked off of mr2oc for saying something stupid.
and the 5sfe was a dohc that doesnt hold a candle to the 3sgte..i
If i was gonna track the two i would go with a v6camry engine and supercharge it

Haha nice to hear from you Roderick. More info. on 1MZ-FE swap here:

http://home.roadrunner.com/~bedellracing/V6FAQ.html

Awesome but expensive. Brad Bedell won the Sport Compact Car USCC in '04 with this setup.


as far as the valve cover it looks like the holes for the throttle body stay have been welded shut. I like that..makes it look clean imo

No they haven't. They're right there between the #2 and #3 spark plug holes.


on the 1st pic of the plugs the square black one goes to the afm and it seems like its missing the wire clamp that comes on it..the grey one looks like it goes to one of the fuel injectors...
The pic below that : the blue one looks like it goes to the boost pressure sensor.. the brown one to the egr and the black one to the tps located on the throttle body. and the small grey one looks like it connects to a ground wire.
ille look at my car tommorow just to make sure.

The first one looks too small to be the AFM connector. Look at his hand compared to it. And I think the blue one is the T-VSV or T-VIS or something else mounted to that plate under the IM. The boost pressure sensor (and corresponding connector) is black and mounted to the bulkhead next to the daignostic ports. I think you're right about the rest though.

WAT TURBO?
01-30-2011, 10:05 PM
So the big question is: What kind of map sensor did the cars use? I know the 91 92 cars were draw through maf correct? Then in 93 they went to a SD (speed density) type setup with some type of manifold pressure sensor? Fill me in lol.

Bowenaero
01-30-2011, 10:20 PM
So the big question is: What kind of map sensor did the cars use? I know the 91 92 cars were draw through maf correct? Then in 93 they went to a SD (speed density) type setup with some type of manifold pressure sensor? Fill me in lol.

All USDM MR2s have an AFM. No MAF or MAP or speed density or anything else. They all use the same AFM. Pretty sure the manifold pressure sensor on the USDM cars is just for fuel cut. It has nothing to do with AFRs or fuel maps or anything having to do with air metering. It's all done by the (restrictive) AFM. Looks like this:

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e363/gin3p/91%20MR2%20Parts/Sept09024.jpg

The Gen 3 3S-GTE that came in the 94-99 JDM (and I think European) MR2s used MAP sensors (Gen 3 refers to the engine's generation, not the chassis. The USDM cars all have Gen 2s stock). That's one of the advantages of the Gen 3. Also an advantage of using a standalone computer.

Edit: Here are some websites I had in my favorites talking about the 3S-GTE. I think they have some good info:
http://www.toysport.com/Technical%20Information/3sgt_tech_notes.htm
http://gt4dreams.free.fr/rip/3sgteinfo.htm

WAT TURBO?
01-30-2011, 10:43 PM
Ok great info. I dont have the AFM (air flow meter???) for my car. However, I do have a hydra nemesis on the way. I need to figure out what kind of sensor it will use. The car it came off of did not use the AFM.

ghostrida3
01-30-2011, 10:51 PM
hey whats up bowen..yeah i think your right about the blue one bein for the tvis..the black one is bothering me. i know i have unplugged it several times..man looking at those wires bring back bad memories right?
also its actually cheaper to go v6 than turbo minus the supercharger..the 1mzfe is alot cheaper than the 3sgte. and all of the 1mzfe parts you need for the swap are alot cheaper than their 3sgte counterparts...just thougth i would correct the correctotron :)
i think one of the greatest things about the standalone is getting rid of that afm. The afm seems to be extremely tempramental.i know some people are running gm map sensors with fcons..

Bowenaero
01-30-2011, 10:54 PM
Ok great info. I dont have the AFM (air flow meter???) for my car. However, I do have a hydra nemesis on the way. I need to figure out what kind of sensor it will use. The car it came off of did not use the AFM.

Yeah, AFM stands for Air Flow Meter. You will not want or need to use the AFM with the Hydra. MAP is the way to go.

Catnip
01-30-2011, 10:55 PM
I want that FC.

kthnx

Bowenaero
01-30-2011, 10:58 PM
hey whats up bowen..yeah i think your right about the blue one bein for the tvis..the black one is bothering me. i know i have unplugged it several times..man looking at those wires bring back bad memories right?

Ha! I never got the pleasure of wondering about the wiring in your car so much, but I do remember sifting through all the bolts on the garage floor looking for the right ones to re-mate your transmission... And that was the night I got those two tickets :[ Good times, good times...

WAT TURBO?
01-30-2011, 11:19 PM
Yeah, AFM stands for Air Flow Meter. You will not want or need to use the AFM with the Hydra. MAP is the way to go.

Ok thats what I was thinking. Do most guys use a GM MAP sensory or a toyota one?

Bowenaero
01-30-2011, 11:22 PM
Ok thats what I was thinking. Do most guys use a GM MAP sensory or a toyota one?

Probably GM, but I don't know really. Sorry. Just search "MAP sensor" in the 3S-GTE forum on MR2OC and you're sure to come up with plenty of good stuff.

skate4life
01-31-2011, 03:32 PM
dammnn inspires me to get another mr2 i had a 5sfe and it was total crap i love the feel
of the damn thing but power wise i couldnt even beat a bee if it wanted to run me

i want a 3sgte so bad i would do things that would haunt my life to have your mr2 lol

might as well save up

WAT TURBO?
02-03-2011, 12:00 AM
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importracer
02-05-2011, 03:08 PM
here is a few i got a new job so ive been late on showing my slow 2.

http://i1137.photobucket.com/albums/n507/bwestfall85/1991%20Toyota%20Mr2%20Turbo/CIMG3588.jpg
http://i1137.photobucket.com/albums/n507/bwestfall85/1991%20Toyota%20Mr2%20Turbo/CIMG3592.jpg

WAT TURBO?
02-07-2011, 12:45 AM
Precision 6065 DBB.

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WAT TURBO?
02-07-2011, 12:46 AM
Made good progress today. Did some wiring and made my way through the factory engine harness guide. Also polished the manifold.

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http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs890.ash1/179874_495306831989_506491989_6799139_4506364_n.jp g

SFP manifold, Precision 60/65 DBB, turbosmart ultra gate.
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knucklesson
02-09-2011, 08:24 PM
hey...that MR2 looks like it'll be a monster!!!! Lets be sure to meet up when you're done. Here's a few shots of mine.
btw, your intake is an RMR intake manifold without the markings like mine.





http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee275/knucklesson1/DSCN0211.jpg

http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee275/knucklesson1/NewImage.jpg

Call Eric Hux if you run into trouble. He moved to Alabama so he's not too far. He installed the standalone on my car a few months ago.

WAT TURBO?
02-09-2011, 10:04 PM
hey...that MR2 looks like it'll be a monster!!!! Lets be sure to meet up when you're done. Here's a few shots of mine.
btw, your intake is an RMR intake manifold without the markings like mine.





http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee275/knucklesson1/DSCN0211.jpg

http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee275/knucklesson1/NewImage.jpg

Call Eric Hux if you run into trouble. He moved to Alabama so he's not too far. He installed the standalone on my car a few months ago.


Wow I hope my car turns out like yours! That thing looks awesome! Love the widebody. Im going to try and install the standalone this weekend. My car isnt running yet but I cant wait to drive it. What turbo are you running? Have any dyno numbers?

antj101
02-09-2011, 11:13 PM
OMGGGGGG I WANT ITTTT

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs685.snc4/62570_435773716989_506491989_5861607_3024953_n.jpg

WAT TURBO?
02-10-2011, 12:48 AM
OMGGGGGG I WANT ITTTT

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs685.snc4/62570_435773716989_506491989_5861607_3024953_n.jpg

I wish it would warm up so I could drive it more!

knucklesson
02-10-2011, 09:06 PM
Wow I hope my car turns out like yours! That thing looks awesome! Love the widebody. Im going to try and install the standalone this weekend. My car isnt running yet but I cant wait to drive it. What turbo are you running? Have any dyno numbers?

Its a t3/t4 turbo...will be good to meet other MR2 owners.

importracer
02-10-2011, 09:14 PM
^^^where you from?

afterfire
02-13-2011, 09:37 AM
I miss my Mr2 bigtime

WAT TURBO?
02-15-2011, 07:03 PM
Good to hear. I got it to start on the standalone this weekend. Should be going by next weekend.