suspension... please help

[nelson9995]

okay guys I have some ground control coilovers... I decided I want to get rid of them... I want to be sitting a little higher...maybe about 1/2 an inch to an inch... I would love to be right at the top of the tire or maybe just a little higher with a spring set that would be more comfortable. what are your recommendations?? skunk2?? also I want the drop to be even... don't want the car tilting forward or tilting back.

this is how the car sits as of now..

http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j332/nelson9995/IMG_0073.jpg

[Bacon]

I'll trade you my Tein S.Tech springs. :D Ride is great especially with stock struts.

[RBS]

just turn them up, it would make sense if you want the car to go lower, but higher.. just wind the coils up

[nelson9995]

I'll trade you my Tein S.Tech springs. :D Ride is great especially with stock struts.

is that the ride height... above in ur sig?


just turn them up, it would make sense if you want the car to go lower, but higher.. just wind the coils up

I would like for the ride to be more comfortable since springs are more comfortable than coilovers... or am I wrong?

[94_teg_ls]

is that the ride height... above in ur sig?

thats his ride height .

I would like for the ride to be more comfortable since springs are more comfortable than coilovers... or am I wrong?

on my car it feels 10x more comfortable but i am comparing to ebay coilovers.

[nelson9995]

on my car it feels 10x more comfortable but i am comparing to ebay coilovers.

which kind do you have and can you post a pic of ur car up for ride height please

[94_teg_ls]

eibach pros for a ef hatch

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a314/iwannaliku/092710170138.jpg

[Bacon]

Yeah that's my ride height. Has less than one inch wheel gap.

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[blown_ss]

dude ground control is the best riding sleeve coil over you can buy. they use eibach springs. if you dont like the ride then i would go to lowering springs or if youre a baller you could get some full coilover. to tell you the truth my brother has some function and form full coilovers on his integra and they ride like a dream! they are 600 brand new and are worth it. pm me if you want to know more or anything.

[Cynical 1]

keep the GC coilovers. upgrade to a good shock.

a good shock (koni, tokico illumina, etc) will give you a great ride, and be adjustable to your liking. it's the cheap-o or stock shocks that make them ride like shit...

[blown_ss]

keep the GC coilovers. upgrade to a good shock.

a good shock (koni, tokico illumina, etc) will give you a great ride, and be adjustable to your liking. it's the cheap-o or stock shocks that make them ride like shit...

do this! koni and gc are the best setup. you may have blown struts and thats why you are having a bad ride.

[nelson9995]

Yeah that's my ride height. Has less than one inch wheel gap.
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dude ground control is the best riding sleeve coil over you can buy. they use eibach springs. if you dont like the ride then i would go to lowering springs or if youre a baller you could get some full coilover. to tell you the truth my brother has some function and form full coilovers on his integra and they ride like a dream! they are 600 brand new and are worth it. pm me if you want to know more or anything.
hmm

do this! koni and gc are the best setup. you may have blown struts and thats why you are having a bad ride.
i have brand new kyb agx's i dont think thats the problem. the car is not bouncy... it is actually quite comfortable.. the problem is if I am going to be in spring height territory why not have spring comfortability?

[xero_xero]

decide whether the best bet is adjustable or drop springs.

i prefer adjustable but with preload adjustment.

you can always purchase sleeves and raise the car.

[xero_xero]

Drop springs are simply shorter springs that lower the car a predefined height. you can not adjust these in any way.
Coil overs have a sleeve that you can adjust up and down. the preload can not be adjusted. preload is the amount of force applied to the spring to set rebound.

difference between drop springs, coilovers, and coilovers with adjustable preload.

Adjustable Preload
http://www.proautoluxury.com/img/items/done/SK2-541-05-4725-1.gif
http://www.jhpusa.com/store/pc/catalog/tein/tein.flex3_d.jpg


Nonadjustable preload
http://www.pdukexhausts.co.uk/ekmps/shops/performancedea/images/v-maxx-coilover-sample1.jpg

Drop spring
https://gspec.com/images/Product/medium/pgsprings.jpg

[RBS]

Drop springs are simply shorter springs that lower the car a predefined height. you can not adjust these in any way.
Coil overs have a sleeve that you can adjust up and down. the preload can not be adjusted. preload is the amount of force applied to the spring to set rebound.

difference between drop springs, coilovers, and coilovers with adjustable preload.

Adjustable Preload
http://www.proautoluxury.com/img/items/done/SK2-541-05-4725-1.gif
http://www.jhpusa.com/store/pc/catalog/tein/tein.flex3_d.jpg


Nonadjustable preload
http://www.pdukexhausts.co.uk/ekmps/shops/performancedea/images/v-maxx-coilover-sample1.jpg

Drop spring
https://gspec.com/images/Product/medium/pgsprings.jpg



this is out of the equation for him.


springs will definitely provide a more "comfortable" ride due to the softer spring rates. IMO just wind your current GC's up until they are even, if it gives you a harsh ride replace your shocks and then your done.

[xero_xero]

"this is out of the equation for him.


springs will definitely provide a more "comfortable" ride due to the softer spring rates. IMO just wind your current GC's up until they are even, if it gives you a harsh ride replace your shocks and then your done."

How is it out of the equation? you do realize that all shocks must have springs? and hopefully you understand that there are varying degrees of stiffness through out all of the manufacturers of springs?


A comfortable ride depends on Springs, Height, and Load. Adjustable preload removes LOAD and HEIGHT. so ride is dependent on PRELOAD and SPRING. Trial and Error can teach this, but ask what the spring rate AND DROP is on your current springs.

If you feel the need to change springs or shock absorber once you have raised the car, browse forums and ask performance shops what setups can achieve what you would like.

[Cynical 1]

if your shocks are so low that they are out of their working range, then the best springs in the workd will not make the ride nice and smooth.

kyb's are decent replacement shocks, but not performance or lowering shocks by any means. they are out of their working range for the internal valving, and are giving you the shitty ride.

why not raise the car up to where you would like it, and see how it rides. easy - plus its FREE!

if it still rides shitty, replace the shocks with some good ones - (koni, tolico illumina, etc.) and see how it rides. still don't like it - then get springs. at least you'll have good shocks then...

i have tokico illuminas and ground controls (with 380 front and 450 rear rates) on one of my cars, and it rides better than stock. how? it's got good shocks and is at a working ride height.

[nelson9995]

if your shocks are so low that they are out of their working range, then the best springs in the workd will not make the ride nice and smooth.

kyb's are decent replacement shocks, but not performance or lowering shocks by any means. they are out of their working range for the internal valving, and are giving you the shitty ride.

why not raise the car up to where you would like it, and see how it rides. easy - plus its FREE!

if it still rides shitty, replace the shocks with some good ones - (koni, tolico illumina, etc.) and see how it rides. still don't like it - then get springs. at least you'll have good shocks then...

i have tokico illuminas and ground controls (with 380 front and 450 rear rates) on one of my cars, and it rides better than stock. how? it's got good shocks and is at a working ride height.

I'm going to raise it to see how it rides and let you guys know. I remember that it said KYB AGX's were good for a 1.5 inch drop and I know I am at least 3.


"this is out of the equation for him.


springs will definitely provide a more "comfortable" ride due to the softer spring rates. IMO just wind your current GC's up until they are even, if it gives you a harsh ride replace your shocks and then your done."

How is it out of the equation? you do realize that all shocks must have springs? and hopefully you understand that there are varying degrees of stiffness through out all of the manufacturers of springs?


A comfortable ride depends on Springs, Height, and Load. Adjustable preload removes LOAD and HEIGHT. so ride is dependent on PRELOAD and SPRING. Trial and Error can teach this, but ask what the spring rate AND DROP is on your current springs.

If you feel the need to change springs or shock absorber once you have raised the car, browse forums and ask performance shops what setups can achieve what you would like.


this is out of the equation for him.


springs will definitely provide a more "comfortable" ride due to the softer spring rates. IMO just wind your current GC's up until they are even, if it gives you a harsh ride replace your shocks and then your done.
we'll see

[nelson9995]

reps to all btw

[nelson9995]

I have another question.. why for me to achieve the same height on both side of the front and both sides of the rear... I need to adjust the sleeves at different points than I do on the other side... specially the front. for the driver side to be as high as the passenger front I need to adjust it way higher.

[xero_xero]

make sure that your springs and colars are properly installed at their correct location. it is possible but unlikely that an error in springs or lowering colars between the front and rear could have been made.

[blown_ss]

I have another question.. why for me to achieve the same height on both side of the front and both sides of the rear... I need to adjust the sleeves at different points than I do on the other side... specially the front. for the driver side to be as high as the passenger front I need to adjust it way higher.

more weight on one side. cars are not weighted even. if you look at the front alone you have the motor on the drivers side and the tranny on the other. the motor weighs more then the tranny. every car that i have lowered on coils have been this way.

[Infamous_1]

why not get extended top hats?

[nelson9995]

make sure that your springs and colars are properly installed at their correct location. it is possible but unlikely that an error in springs or lowering colars between the front and rear could have been made.
it should be correct


more weight on one side. cars are not weighted even. if you look at the front alone you have the motor on the drivers side and the tranny on the other. the motor weighs more then the tranny. every car that i have lowered on coils have been this way.

so lowering springs eliminate this problem or is it still crooked?

[blown_ss]

it should not have the same problem. it only takes like 5 mins to solve that problem with coils though.

[nelson9995]

why not get extended top hats?

what do extended top hats do... do they change the comfort of the ride??? I thought they only made the shock last longer.

[Cynical 1]

what do extended top hats do... do they change the comfort of the ride??? I thought they only made the shock last longer.



top hats don't affect ride height - but they affect the working range of the shock.

if you have say, a 2 inch top hat, then it is like you raised your car 2 inches to the strut - and moves it closer to its working range...

however, they are a couple hundred for all 4...