Sentra SE-R vs Porsche 911 GT3 RS

[SmokinJoe]

Had a little fun with the Sentra at Barber this weekend. Enjoy!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmMlvJ5lGrM

[thesammy]

I guess no one checks the racing section here. Good driving, good race!

[Catnip]

Very impressive!

[OnURleft]

Nice kill Joe. Love smokin' the old guys with tons of money and sub par driving skills

[Drummerboy]

Nice job! I couldn't tell from the video, is the sentra turbo'd?

[thegreatfnr]

Nice job! I couldn't tell from the video, is the sentra turbo'd?

My buddy at work just showed me where this car was in Grassroots Motorsports mag this month. The article said it has a 3.5 VQ in it if it is in fact the same car.

Great vid.

[jin4g63]

wow that thing is tuned right b15 ftw

[Big J]

same car, it was in Nissan Sport Magazine too

[jnv255]

Nice

[John@Z1]

Great job Joe. Nothing like a NA VQ in a lightweight car.

[Big J]

Great job Joe. Nothing like a NA VQ in a lightweight car.

We'll be in touch....... we started on another car, think 600lbs lighter and 35 more WHP. :goodjob:

[Starrfire]

Impressive. The guy was a little ambitious with his late breaking in his porsche so it kinda made for some tense moments because rear ending that would have made his day lol. Not expensive for you but I can't imagine him feeling too good about the whole experience.

[NAIZBST]

nice driving and great video

[Big J]

some new track vid


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XMlfE1JeJ4

[Sneezin]

great driving great vid. i want to get into this

[Bballjamal]

That was exciting! Many times my video game reflexes wanted to come into play and bump some mofo's! lmao j/k!

[Black Trunk]

Nice :)

[Sammich]

didnt know you were on here...saw this vid on maxima org...definitely some great driving...Porsche dude was a douche nozzle

[NJSC]

Looks like fun! Nice job.

[Elbow]

didnt know you were on here...saw this vid on maxima org...definitely some great driving...Porsche dude was a douche nozzle

Where was the Porsche being a douche?

[YoItsCarlie]

what cam setup are you using? camera and rigging?

[Big J]

roll cage mounted camera mount and an whatever brand hd camera.

new footage from this weekend


http://vimeo.com/25438423

[Sunkenkarma]

Awesome driving skills! haha, Gotta love a sentra chasing a GT3 around a track xD. Find Viper ACR next time! =p

[tdurr]

dude. i love it. i remember talking to u at the v one day about the car. deff is a beast!

[DeeAOne]

I would love to get into this as a weekend thing. Nice driving man!

[Elbow]

I would love to get into this as a weekend thing. Nice driving man!

What's holding you back?

[Big J]

new footage, new track record.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLHUSN7WS04&feature=channel_video_title

[Elbow]

new footage, new track record.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLHUSN7WS04&feature=channel_video_title

Nice, I'm racing there next month, looks like a decent track. Record in what class? What was the time?

[Big J]

On Thursday the motor was on the floor, on Friday it was back in, early Saturday morning it would finally stay running so we loaded it up and started driving. Got to Charlotte at 6am Saturday, first Session was 8am.

Saturday we ran TTA (Hoosier gives contingency tires to top finishers if there are enough cars in the group, so we were chasing tires) and took 3rd place on an untuned motor with new cams, a second or so behind a couple of Z06 vettes. I think we ran a 1:23 or so.

CiN Motorsports was kind enough to hook us up, stay late, and strap us to the dyno to tune the motor after coming by to check out the car. It was great because I use the tuning software one way, they use it another, the tune came out great.

Sunday we ran TTB and clicked off 1:21.

We have a TTE record there too.

[Elbow]

On Thursday the motor was on the floor, on Friday it was back in, early Saturday morning it would finally stay running so we loaded it up and started driving. Got to Charlotte at 6am Saturday, first Session was 8am.

Saturday we ran TTA (Hoosier gives contingency tires to top finishers if there are enough cars in the group, so we were chasing tires) and took 3rd place on an untuned motor with new cams, a second or so behind a couple of Z06 vettes. I think we ran a 1:23 or so.

CiN Motorsports was kind enough to hook us up, stay late, and strap us to the dyno to tune the motor after coming by to check out the car. It was great because I use the tuning software one way, they use it another, the tune came out great.

Sunday we ran TTB and clicked off 1:21.

We have a TTE record there too.

Good deal, is TTA fastest? I don't follow NASA much.

How do you like the track? It's either Charlotte or Barber, I know Barber is the nicer track but Charlotte just seems interesting to me and we may be racing under the lights. lol

[DunDunSkeert]

Badass videos man, Car sounds great and nice driving too.

[Big J]

TTA though TTF are classed and restricted based on a points system.

Every car has a base class determined by HP weight, special features etc. Every class has 20 points available for modification, once you exceed 20 points you move to the next class. i.e. 2 points for an exhaust, 2 for a header, 6 for cams, 2 for big brake kit, 2 for sway bars, 1 for a splitter, etc, etc, etc.

Some cars are based high right off the bat, like a Z06 or a Porsche, so they don't have a lot of wiggle room before they hit the TTS, TTU, and TTR classes, which are unlimited.

TTS and TTU unlmited classes only have a HP/wt celling, TTR has none. So S, U, and R have no points for mods, so you are pretty free to do anything (more or less)

With this format you have to make good decisions to make the car as competitive as it can be.

The Sentra SE-R has a base class of TTE* (+7 because of faster steering rack, larger brakes, sway bars etc, from the factory)

The other way to build a car is to weigh the car, then dyno, and submit the numbers for a reclass and then add up your mod points not related to the motor and power output. We had to with the swap so we were reassigned a base class of TTC** with the V-6. The big disadvantage there is you are locked in the that HP/wt, so we are at capped at 2800lbs and 265whp.... so we run TTB and some times TTA stuck at a TTC power and wt level.

BTW I don't drive the car, I just make it fast. For 2012 we'll be working on my car. 1995 200sx SE-R planned to get a VQ35 swap and twin turbos, being built for the unlimited classes.

[Elbow]

Ah so basically like their road racing classes? At least PT is similar I think. I'm hoping to run the NASA 8 hour race at RA in December, haven't had good luck with NASA previously though. lol VQ in a 200SX is for the win! I have a B13 that I'd love to do that to. lol

[Big J]

Good luck meaning what?

[Elbow]

Good luck meaning what?

I've just had bad experience with the way they decide to run things and some of their out of the hat rules to suite whatever they're feeling that day.

[Big J]

The rules are pretty straight forward for a sanctioning body....... you only have to read them 4-5 times for them to make sense, lol. There are 2 rule books, one for everybody, and then one for each type of racing.

It's actually been pretty easy to get rules interpreted or get things OK'd by the national directors when I've brought them up. Never had an issue at the regional level.

Does the SCCA have a bar-b-que dinner on the last race day of a weekend and roll out coolers of beer?

[Big J]

If you have any questions they have a good forum, or you can just ask here. There are a few NASA racers here.

[Elbow]

The rules are pretty straight forward for a sanctioning body....... you only have to read them 4-5 times for them to make sense, lol. There are 2 rule books, one for everybody, and then one for each type of racing.

It's actually been pretty easy to get rules interpreted or get things OK'd by the national directors when I've brought them up. Never had an issue at the regional level.

Does the SCCA have a bar-b-que dinner on the last race day of a weekend and roll out coolers of beer?

Not actual car rules but licensing BS, trying to get top dollar, and other things, my first NASA weekend was bad enough that I still hold a grudge. lol Yes, SCCA has a social usually on Saturday night. Who doesn't do that? lol

[Big J]

licensing is important. It's a process, everyone does it, unless you come in with another competition license and petition the director to get a waiver. Again the specifics would be in the rule book. I'd give them another shot, because unless you have a comp license and you follow the procedure, they're not just going to let you hop in a car an do the enduro because you say you can drive in traffic on a track at speed.

[Big J]

from the enduro rule book....

"2.6. Licenses and fees
All drivers must possess a currently valid NASA Competition License or Rookie Permit.* Driver’s with
licenses from other recognized sanctioning bodies should contact the national office to obtain a NASA
license. Call 510-232-6272 for more information.
* Some races may not allow Rookie Permit holders."


from the CCR rule book...

"14.0 NASA COMPETITION LICENSE
14.1 Issuance of NASA Competition License
NASA Competition Licenses are only issued from the NASA National Office, and are honored by all Regions. The National Office will evaluate each candidate on a case by case basis and may issue a Competition License providing that the license candidate meet one of the following sets of conditions:
14.1.1 NASA completed Provisional License holders:
1. Submit their completed Provisional License.
2. Submit a copy of their state driver‟s license.
3. Submit their completed NASA (or approved) Physical Exam Form.
4. Submit the appropriate license fee.
5. Submit an Application for Competition License
14.1.2 FIA, Grand Am, IMSA license holders
Regional, National, Pro:
1. Submit a copy of their current license.
2. Submit a copy of their state driver‟s license.
3. Submit a copy of their last Physical Exam Form.
4. Submit the appropriate license fee.
5. Submit an Application for Competition License
14.1.3 SCCA completed Novice Permit holders:
1. Submit a copy of their completed Novice Permit.
2. Submit a copy of their state driver‟s license.
3. Submit a copy of their completed SCCA (or approved) Physical Exam Form.
4. Submit the appropriate license fee.
5. Submit an Application for Competition License
Note: All Physical Examinations shall be renewed and resubmitted as per the instruction sheet (page one) of the Physical Examination Form.
14.1.4 Current SCCA license holders
Regional, National, Pro:
1. Submit a copy of their current SCCA license.
2. Submit a copy of their state driver‟s license.
3. Submit the appropriate license fee.
4. Submit an Application for Competition License
14.2 Waiver of License Requirements
The Event Chairman may grant a temporary Waiver of License Requirements under one of the following conditions (per Region only):
1. It is the driver‟s first race event of the NASA region and he/she shows proof of a currently valid SCCA, Grand Am, FIA, or IMSA (PSR) Road Racing license.
2. If the driver has completed the NASA Race Licensing Certification and has been approved by the Region‟s Licensing Instructor for a Provisional License.
3. If the driver is part of a “Co-Sanctioned Group” that holds a currently valid license with that group."

[Elbow]

from the enduro rule book....

"2.6. Licenses and fees
All drivers must possess a currently valid NASA Competition License or Rookie Permit.* Driver’s with
licenses from other recognized sanctioning bodies should contact the national office to obtain a NASA
license. Call 510-232-6272 for more information.
* Some races may not allow Rookie Permit holders."


from the CCR rule book...

"14.0 NASA COMPETITION LICENSE
14.1 Issuance of NASA Competition License
NASA Competition Licenses are only issued from the NASA National Office, and are honored by all Regions. The National Office will evaluate each candidate on a case by case basis and may issue a Competition License providing that the license candidate meet one of the following sets of conditions:
14.1.1 NASA completed Provisional License holders:
1. Submit their completed Provisional License.
2. Submit a copy of their state driver‟s license.
3. Submit their completed NASA (or approved) Physical Exam Form.
4. Submit the appropriate license fee.
5. Submit an Application for Competition License
14.1.2 FIA, Grand Am, IMSA license holders
Regional, National, Pro:
1. Submit a copy of their current license.
2. Submit a copy of their state driver‟s license.
3. Submit a copy of their last Physical Exam Form.
4. Submit the appropriate license fee.
5. Submit an Application for Competition License
14.1.3 SCCA completed Novice Permit holders:
1. Submit a copy of their completed Novice Permit.
2. Submit a copy of their state driver‟s license.
3. Submit a copy of their completed SCCA (or approved) Physical Exam Form.
4. Submit the appropriate license fee.
5. Submit an Application for Competition License
Note: All Physical Examinations shall be renewed and resubmitted as per the instruction sheet (page one) of the Physical Examination Form.
14.1.4 Current SCCA license holders
Regional, National, Pro:
1. Submit a copy of their current SCCA license.
2. Submit a copy of their state driver‟s license.
3. Submit the appropriate license fee.
4. Submit an Application for Competition License
14.2 Waiver of License Requirements
The Event Chairman may grant a temporary Waiver of License Requirements under one of the following conditions (per Region only):
1. It is the driver‟s first race event of the NASA region and he/she shows proof of a currently valid SCCA, Grand Am, FIA, or IMSA (PSR) Road Racing license.
2. If the driver has completed the NASA Race Licensing Certification and has been approved by the Region‟s Licensing Instructor for a Provisional License.
3. If the driver is part of a “Co-Sanctioned Group” that holds a currently valid license with that group."

I will give them another shot in December as I have an SCCA competition license now, NASA requires the whole HPDE thing to even register for their comp school which is fine, except in a case where someone has loads of track day experience it just seems useless to me to go through another ladder of moving up, it's a huge investment to run that many HPDEs. I've read the CCR and even some people in charge don't follow it directly, I've been told two different things about something by the same person. I'm not going to cry and complain about it as I will try them again, but it's not only me who has had issues with the way things are ran.

[Big J]

It keeps things safe. It helps to know the rules, too. You'll like running with NASA.

[Elbow]

It keeps things safe. It helps to know the rules, too. You'll like running with NASA.

I hope, I just plan on doing that one race, SCCA offers more of what I want to go after.

[Big J]

hopefully it's not hot as fuck. We'd like to take the track record, if not, it'll have to wait until fall.

[Elbow]

hopefully it's not hot as fuck. We'd like to take the track record, if not, it'll have to wait until fall.

The one coming up in August? It's probably going to be quite warm. :( lol

[Big J]

set a new track record at Road Atlanta today...... should go deeper tomorrow.

[Big J]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScqQlzFP1Lc

[Elbow]

Did you pass under a yellow or was that debris? lol

Nice work though! What did you run I think I read somewhere 1:36? May of been in the video didn't watch it all.

[Big J]

1:36.9

[Elbow]

Good deal!