Kseries in a 92 hatch

[963clips3]

What up IA,
I got a 92 civic hatch with a full 99 gsr swap rite now. But im looking to do a Full k20/k24 swap in it. What is it all do i need to do the complete swap. and how much will i spend not counting the labor.
Thanks

[112480]

What up IA,
I got a 92 civic hatch with a full 99 gsr swap rite now. But im looking to do a Full k20/k24 swap in it. What is it all do i need to do the complete swap. and how much will i spend not counting the labor.
Thanks

U need to contact me so i can tell u. 678-362-1866 Gregg. And please excuse the b series guys who r gonna tell u just turbo ur swap or the h2b guys who r gonna say they can make the same hp for less money. But for now, go to www.k20a.org

[blown_ss]

you need a fat wallet. there are write ups everywhere on how to do it.

[5speed]

Cost me over 4k to do it in my old EJ1. That was pretty cheap, especially bc it was when everyone starting doing it so prices were steep but worth it. Thats by buying the full swap from a friend who had it in his car and totaled it on his own fault. Dont expect it to be that cheap.

[112480]

you need a fat wallet.
See what i mean? THIS IS NOT TRUE!! 5 years ago it was, BUT NOT TODAY!!



there are write ups everywhere on how to do it.

This is true:goodjob: www.k20a.org:goodjob::goodjob:

[112480]

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[blown_ss]

See what i mean? THIS IS NOT TRUE!! 5 years ago it was, BUT NOT TODAY!!




This is true:goodjob: www.k20a.org:goodjob::goodjob:

holy double post. it depends on where you get the swap from. the parts to make it work dont cost that much and there are write ups on how to do it the cheap way. the swaps still cost a lot more then most want to spend once they look into it.

[112480]

Cost me over 4k to do it in my old EJ1. Dont expect it to be that cheap.

If doing the labor urself, doing a basic k24/k20 in an eg TODAY(NOT 5 years ago!) will be around 3-5k(5 years ago; 7-9k)

[112480]

holy double post. it depends on where you get the swap from. the parts to make it work dont cost that much and there are write ups on how to do it the cheap way. the swaps still cost a lot more then most want to spend once they look into it.

?? Yeah if u get it on hmotorsonline.com! Man look, a k swap IS NOT THAT EXPENSIVE! Especially doing a k24/k20 build. Block cheap as shit, FULLY assembled head is fairly cheap, trans is fairly cheap and parts are WAYYYYYYYYY cheaper now then they were then. Put it like this. For the block,head and trans i could find it for you for $1500-2000! and all u have to do is get all the USED CHEAP swap parts to put it in an eg. SHIT u got guys selling the whole type-S swap with a lot of the swap parts needed to put in a eg/dc for $2500-3500!!

Most, if not all u can get off k20a.org and clubrsx.com!

[112480]

holy double post.

LOL! yea i caught that.

[blown_ss]

lol. now you got me thinking about doing a k swap.

[112480]

lol. now you got me thinking about doing a k swap.

really not expensive man:goodjob: check out the for sale forums on k20a.org and clubrsx.com and u'll see:goodjob:

btw, ask the closest b series turbo guy u know how much he's spent since he rebuilt his motor 2-3 times or more!

And if u want a shop to do it, i recommend Mainstream Performance:goodjob: Great labor prices and great guys:goodjob:

[963clips3]

shit man i really want to do this swap, but i just want to get everything i need and do it myself with my dad as a project

[*EFilliated*]

Wat about the trannys they suck don't they?

[112480]

Wat about the trannys they suck don't they?

NOPE!

[112480]

shit man i really want to do this swap, but i just want to get everything i need and do it myself with my dad as a project

And its easy to do. like BlownSS said they're PLENTY of write-ups on it. Easy install!

[112480]

Just some examples!

This is a VERY VERY good deal! 5 years ago to have all this would've been $7-9k easy! All u would to do is put it in ur hatch! AND YOSOLO i hear is THE SHIT up in NYC:goodjob:

http://www.k20a.org/forum/showthread.php?t=81721

Good turbo motor deal

http://www.k20a.org/forum/showthread.php?t=82091

And another
http://www.k20a.org/forum/showthread.php?t=80683


Now keep in mind that these are built assemble motor already. If u get the block,head,tranny and parts sepertaly urself, u can SAVE EVEN MORE MONEY!
Another good deal if u want to do turbo
http://www.k20a.org/forum/showthread.php?t=80299

[5speed]

shit man i really want to do this swap, but i just want to get everything i need and do it myself with my dad as a project

Just look at the links provided and read the write ups. I have a mag laying around somewhere with a list of parts needed for the swap. Nice hatch you got there btw.

[963clips3]

yea yo!@ YOSOLO and all of the Nyce1s crew are the one dat got me really into the swap. i want to do a j32a2 swap but i dont want to cut the hood lol.. can you post a list of everything i need. like axles,motor mounts, etc. thanks bro.

[112480]

i want to do a j32a2 swap but i dont want to cut the hood lol..

Um HaSport solved that problem for u about 6 months ago:D. U dont have to cut ur hood anymore for the j swap:goodjob:

[963clips3]

Um HaSport solved that problem for u about 6 months ago:D. U dont have to cut ur hood anymore for the j swap:goodjob:

how is dat?

[112480]

how is dat?

http://hasport.com/store/index.php/egj2.html:goodjob:

[Black4DrEK]

You gotta be Sitting like Monster truck tho.^


Im not a H2B Nut swinger..

But I would just do IT!

[Black4DrEK]

Fresh H22A longblock $900

QSD H2B kit $800

You Use B series motor Mounts.. SO If you have stock ones tho I would recomend After market.

Mounts $200-300

Same B Series Axles, Shift Linkage, Ect..

Straight drop in STOCK H22A with bolt ons ( Header, Intake Mani, ect) and a GOOD TUNE.. you will be at around 210 hp and 165 tq..

Then after that gets old.. (IT WONT FOR A LONG TIME)... Build it.. K KILLER!

[112480]

Fresh H22A longblock $900

QSD H2B kit $800

=$1700. I told u that u can get k24 block,k20a2 head and 6 speed tranny for this much.


You Use B series motor Mounts.. SO If you have stock ones tho I would recomend After market.

Mounts $200-300

Same B Series Axles, Shift Linkage, Ect..

Now with getting USED swap parts u looking at about $1k-$1300. and k pro is about $900(the "real" only pricey part) so yeah u spend a bit more for the STOCK k frank.


Straight drop in STOCK H22A with bolt ons ( Header, Intake Mani, ect) and a GOOD TUNE.. you will be at around 210 hp and 165 tq..

STOCK k24/k20 in eg will be around 210-215whp and 175wtq.


Then after that gets old.. (IT WONT FOR A LONG TIME)... Build it.. K KILLER!

LOL! PLEASE! If a stock h2b cant beat a stock k24/k20, how is building one gonna do it either??? If we had endless amount of money and threw it at the h2b and k24/k20, the k24/k20 will ALWAYS make A LOT more power!! AND! thats just doing the k24/k20 build. If u what to stay non-vtec k24A build, u can make even more!!

www.k20a.org man:goodjob: Out of hundreds of k builds i've seen over the years, k24/k20 highest i've seen was 345whp and 265wtq and k24a1(non-vtec) i seen at Go power motorsports was 390whp and 285wtq. Now obvisously u might not want to drive those on the street(even though u can) just giving u an idea all motor wise. But even in a "street" build the k24/k20 is a bit more to do them a h2b, but in the end u'll thank urself for doing it:goodjob: TRUST ME!

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[112480]

Im not a H2B Nut swinger..

its ok, you can admit it:taun:

[963clips3]

damn i wish a kseries was as easy to drop in like any other b or h

[112480]

damn i wish a kseries was as easy to drop in like any other b or h

u have to remember..... we have 92-95 model civics! b and h were being built around that time. Hell b series vtec were back in 88', lol. Now u want to put a 2002+ motor in ur 92-95 civic so there is gonna be some cost involved when doing that transition, BUT IN THE END IT IS WORTH IT!!!!!:goodjob:

[Black4DrEK]

No not at all a H swinger.

you just seem like a "K" Nut swinger..

This guy obviously doesnt know much about it.. and Probly NOT going to follow threw with a K swap..

It WOULD be cheaper to do a H2B and still have a BIG bang for the Cheaper Buck!

[Black4DrEK]

And to the OP, You ALSO keep your Original Engine Harness for H2b.

[*EFilliated*]

A good h22 longblock like mine = 1k
Qsd is garbage
Evo kit comes with everything u need, light weight flywheel, aftermarket mounts, good clearance = around $1200
And then u still need a bseries tranny if u don't already got one



Fresh H22A longblock $900

QSD H2B kit $800

You Use B series motor Mounts.. SO If you have stock ones tho I would recomend After market.

Mounts $200-300

Same B Series Axles, Shift Linkage, Ect..

Straight drop in STOCK H22A with bolt ons ( Header, Intake Mani, ect) and a GOOD TUNE.. you will be at around 210 hp and 165 tq..

Then after that gets old.. (IT WONT FOR A LONG TIME)... Build it.. K KILLER!

[Black4DrEK]

QSD kit garbage? LOL

[Black4DrEK]

MANY people on most forums with the H2b, Liked the QSD kit better..

Axle angle is better, ect.

[112480]

you just seem like a "K" Nut swinger..

LOL! Nope not a s nut swinger, but i do love K's and i like b and h series too. Hell I'm coming from a turbo D series. I just chose to BE PATIENT and skip the B and h2b swap and go for the K! And i never said H2b's wasnt the best bang for your buck, all i want known is this is NOT 5 years ago when k swap were ridiculosly expensive. They are MUCH MUCH MUCH cheaper now! and i didnt that money comparison above to show him that the STOCK k swap isnt that much more than a STOCK h2b swap(adding i/h/e of course) Yea the k is more but its not like its $3k+ more.

[Apex1972]

MANY people on most forums with the H2b, Liked the QSD kit better..

Axle angle is better, ect.

its both using the B series tranny so how does the position of the axles change?

[*EFilliated*]

May b ur rite, just always heard problems with anything other than Evo, they both do the job, guess I'm just towards Evo cuz I've owned one for quiet a bit now, with no problems Wat so ever, anything from street tires to slicks, I don't c a diffrence in axle angle.


MANY people on most forums with the H2b, Liked the QSD kit better..

Axle angle is better, ect.

[*EFilliated*]

To the K owner, y have I heard many different people tell me that the trannys are garbage, even with rsx, I have heard of people having problems with 2nd, so prove me wrong bout the tranny? J/w

[112480]

To the K owner, y have I heard many different people tell me that the trannys are garbage, even with rsx, I have heard of people having problems with 2nd, so prove me wrong bout the tranny? J/w

Cant "prove" u wrong about the tranny. Some ppl have problems and some dont. U heard 2nd gear is a problem then i'll ask u what about the infamous 3rd gear in d and b series trannys! If ur that worried about the stock k series tranny just use carbon syncros or if u have the BIG BUCKS go for a dog box tranny. but the stock 5 and 6 speed will hold up just fine.

[Starrfire]

Honda actually had a recall on the 06+ Si's transmissions for premature failure of 3rd gear. It would pop out. So the garbage part isn't myth. Rsx transmissions also have problems after mileage also.

[*EFilliated*]

Yea people with a budget, which is mre than half, kseries is not recommended, people dnt got money to be rebuilding NEW transmissions. Not worth it, and for bseries trannys never heard problems. As long as u maintain them they will last forever


Cant "prove" u wrong about the tranny. Some ppl have problems and some dont. U heard 2nd gear is a problem then i'll ask u what about the infamous 3rd gear in d and b series trannys! If ur that worried about the stock k series tranny just use carbon syncros or if u have the BIG BUCKS go for a dog box tranny. but the stock 5 and 6 speed will hold up just fine.

[112480]

Yea people with a budget, which is mre than half, kseries is not recommended, people dnt got money to be rebuilding NEW transmissions. Not worth it, and for bseries trannys never heard problems. As long as u maintain them they will last forever

So the solution is to continue doing b and h series swaps 5,10,15,20+years from now??????? At what point do u SAVE AND BE PATIENT for something better????? I waited a year+ getting parts together for my k swap. You cant tell me noone else cant do the same. Yea i could've did a b series turbo or h2b swap, but honestly i like keeping up with the lastest technology available for our cars. Meaning the next letter motor "M,V or whatever" i'm gonna do that swap. If ur waiting for k series to be the SAME price as h or series swaps and parts, then u'll be waiting another 5 years and by then honda will have their next "swapable" motor out and u'll still be talking about doing a k series motor. LOL!

Dont want a corvette now just b/c i can get it. I rather SAVE more money and get the Z06!,even if it takes 1-2 more years cause in the end, i'll be more satisfied knowing i have the car that has more potential then the one i could've just "settleed" for.

[112480]

I just wish ppl would stop making the k series sound like its a leg and a arm to swap/build like it was 5 years ago. I know plenty of guys who have rebuilt their turbo b series 3-5 times over! And they dont use ebay kits, meaning the shit is expensive to keep rebuilding b series turbo builds so y not take that same expense to the k series realm?

[Black4DrEK]

^

LOL . You are making the K seem like the best swap known to man..

Maybe he doesnt want to save for some odd years for ALL the K parts... When he could simply do the H2B in hmm.. lets say a few months of saving..

And What people? I have friends with K swaps also.. I know about ALL swaps.. and the H would seem BETTER for a person thats not trying to collect parts forever!

[Black4DrEK]

And now your talking about TURBO B SERIES BUILDS vs. K swaps..

[Starrfire]

I'll do a K in one of my hatches in the future when K prices are normal and super cheap. Availability and technology bring prices down over the years. Especially with honda bringing out K's in full force. As far as bang for buck most of the hype that you're gonna make 220 wheel on a stock type s motor is now out in the light as a fallacy. But it is the next big thing in honda engines. It doesn't mean that all older engines are lesser archaic pieces of garbage that can't make power. A good B will still rock a k's world for much less money. But the K is gaining speed and is the next B series swap in about 5 years in my eyes.

[Black4DrEK]

I'll do a K in one of my hatches in the future when K prices are normal and super cheap. Availability and technology bring prices down over the years. Especially with honda bringing out K's in full force. As far as bang for buck most of the hype that you're gonna make 220 wheel on a stock type s motor is now out in the light as a fallacy. But it is the next big thing in honda engines. It doesn't mean that all older engines are lesser archaic pieces of garbage that can't make power. A good B will still rock a k's world for much less money. But the K is gaining speed and is the next B series swap in about 5 years in my eyes.

Right

[112480]

Yes a "good"(highly built) B will rock a STOCK K series world. And in 5(MORE) years yea the K prices will be SUPER cheap cause they already are that way! So i guess they'll be just RIDCULOSLY cheap! PPL with NO PATIENCE will spend A LOT of money on a k swap, but its funny how mine is FULLY built top to bottom(mainstream building it now) yet in ALL I've only spent $6k and thats WITH Mainstream Labor AND I DO MEAN FULLY built!

5 years from now will equal about 10+ years the "k swaps" have been around. I'm sure that while ppl are "waiting" for the "prices to drop even more" that Honda will have the next Big motor out and k series will be like a d series is to a b series now. And then ppl will be like "well a good k will still rock a(whatever letter)world:rolleyes:

[112480]

And now your talking about TURBO B SERIES BUILDS vs. K swaps..

No i'm not trying to but i tell u what, when my car is finish i would LOVE to race B series turbo builds!! and mine is all motor.......with..............