Oh no....

[CaTcH22]

http://i728.photobucket.com/albums/ww287/QWKD15/Enginebay.jpg


Get ready......

[Lu91]

Ohhhhh. Nooooooooooooo.

[CaTcH22]

GTFO. Quit tryin to run up your post count n this thread....

Those who know me will understand whats goin on. :ninja:

[Z0_o6]

I understand that there is a single missing. I haven't sold my stuff for a single yet...

[Catnip]

http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v2052/1/119/38885133323/s38885133323_1262323_3995.jpg

Had to :D

[CaTcH22]

I understand that there is a single missing. I haven't sold my stuff for a single yet...

Keep yo single stuff fool..... :ninja: lol

[CaTcH22]

I hate your face Evan. :goodjob:

[JJSPEC Racing]

Did you get that J32 out of the storage room today? Havent been by the shop today so I didnt know. Let me know if you need the Ranger

[CaTcH22]

I went by the shop to get "something"......

[thundercatz1]

no k20 no care lolol j/k

[CaTcH22]

Way more than K..... trust me. You had nothing for my D if you were even with Todd..... jklol.

[JJSPEC Racing]

I went by the shop to get "something"......

Nice!

[thundercatz1]

Me and todd was really good I think he was surprised!!!! lol

We shall see what you bring to the table my friend...... lol

[thundercatz1]

Did you get that J32 out of the storage room today? Havent been by the shop today so I didnt know. Let me know if you need the Ranger


I thought he was doin the 09 tl- type s swap w/manual 6 speed:thinking:

[CaTcH22]

I heard it was close. lol. I'll have updates soon enough..... Goin big this time around.

[thundercatz1]

I heard it was close. lol. I'll have updates soon enough..... Goin big this time around.


Goodluck with ur new setup buddy.

Also me and todd in my opinion is still undecided about who won because it was kinda back and forth but the one run that we did that was top end I think i was ahead by a smidget but, who knows we will do it again one day, I know he's a busy guy and I just so happen to catch him out.....

He is a great competitor and I almost blew my motor fuckin around with you that one nite lol

[CaTcH22]

I have had 2 turbos that were bigger since that night. lol. I clear 3xx whp with no problem. You need to go ahead and follow your sig and get it over with..... :ninja:

[iam99x]

I have had 2 turbos that were bigger since that night. lol. I clear 3xx whp with no problem. You need to go ahead and follow your sig and get it over with..... :ninja:

Truth.

In for updates/leaks!

[thundercatz1]

I have had 2 turbos that were bigger since that night. lol. I clear 3xx whp with no problem. You need to go ahead and follow your sig and get it over with..... :ninja:


TROOF!

[CaTcH22]

All motor's just too........ I dont know. Boost is the way to go if you wanna make some real power.

[thundercatz1]

I agree with that? Just tryna find a complete kit used ...

[DeeAOne]

at least i got to run you first before you got rid of the swap. and i know whats going in!!! :goodjob:

[iam99x]

I'd stay away from kits. It always comes out cheaper if you buy the parts individually. Plus, you don't want a hand-me-down kit. Build your car the way you want with the parts you want! That's my opinion, anyway. It's just too good to be true to find a complete kit with the exact parts I want to run. Whatever you choose, good luck, and don't skip out on AT LEAST an SAFC tune!

[DeeAOne]

seeing his last setup, he knows plenty about tuning. lol

EDIT: nevermind, thought you were talking to QWK d16

[iam99x]

;) no worries

[CaTcH22]

at least i got to run you first before you got rid of the swap. and i know whats going in!!! :goodjob:

Told you I wasnt playin. Lol.

[DarKStaR]

weak....

[CaTcH22]

http://i728.photobucket.com/albums/ww287/QWKD15/cleanbay.jpg

http://i728.photobucket.com/albums/ww287/QWKD15/tapedbay.jpg

[iam99x]

Weld them holes up! ;)

[CaTcH22]

It'll be Jet black, so they wont stand out.

[iam99x]

Oh, okay. Nice, man.

[CaTcH22]

My car is weak compared to what you will have sir....

Its cool. You know I dont brag. Let me know if you need help with your weak shit....

[DarKStaR]

pfft we shall see....bring it on sucka!

[DarKStaR]

just because we look alike dont mean you can be as good as me....LULZ

[iam99x]

Y'all fools wanna race?

[Got Milk?]

I don't get it. You trying to race with a shell? ....

[DarKStaR]

no, he took the d16 out to clean the bay up a little bit, and to go a different route, engine wise...

[CaTcH22]

I don't get it. You trying to race with a shell? ....

I could tow it faster than a WRX...
The D had 3 under its sleeve, 2 were STI's

[DeeAOne]

oooo sounds like a callout!


/instigation

[CaTcH22]

Waste of time....lol

[Z0_o6]

i accept.

[Moseley]

Hmm no driver side mount...

why not just do a K? especially if you like boost.

edit: Do it right like this guy, 480whp on pump gas and meth, totally stock motor ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xM6cCFeP8Ls

stock Ks ftw

[CaTcH22]

i accept.

Awesome. Lets do it.

[Evil Goat]

Baller! I thought you bought nemos old setup? Lol

And why is it that joey thinks he can outrun everyone these days? Do I need to bring the GTO out of semi retirement and put a bus length or 3 on him?

[CaTcH22]

Baller! I thought you bought nemos old setup? Lol

And why is it that joey thinks he can outrun everyone these days? Do I need to bring the GTO out of semi retirement and put a bus length or 3 on him?No I didnt!.... :ninja:

If this setup doesnt break 500 in March when I build it, i quit. I'll sell the whole fuckin thing

[thundercatz1]

Not to get off topic but whats the safest hp numbers on boost I can get for my k20z1, I heard it was 300hp without having to break it down??

[CaTcH22]

Not to get off topic but whats the safest hp numbers on boost I can get for my k20z1, I heard it was 300hp without having to break it down??

But... you did get off topic.:thinking:
I keed. You can go well into the 3xx on a stock K. With a good tune.

[thundercatz1]

But... you did get off topic.:thinking:
I keed. You can go well into the 3xx on a stock K. With a good tune.


lolol, I appreciate that, Iksnay on you ayyy tune AAyy lolol???

[Catnip]

I have heard of them doing 500whp on stock Ks. Not saying it's safe, lol... but 400whp does the trick. Run E85 and let everyone suckle your deek.

[CaTcH22]

lolol, I appreciate that, Iksnay on you ayyy tune AAyy lolol???

Gotcha

[thundercatz1]

Lol well its in the works, I may be going with the greddy with e-manage just to start me off since im not used to boostology lol.

[thundercatz1]

What?

lolol nuthin

[CaTcH22]

Dont mess with e-manage. Go K-pro and do it right.

[thundercatz1]

Dont mess with e-manage. Go K-pro and do it right.

Yea I know, lol

[DarKStaR]

Baller! I thought you bought nemos old setup? Lol

And why is it that joey thinks he can outrun everyone these days? Do I need to bring the GTO out of semi retirement and put a bus length or 3 on him?
I dont think i can beat everyone. I guess ive been around you to much and think me and my car are just badasses.....just remember 3-1.
I guess its safe to say i can outrun everyone since theres noone to run....do you see what i did there lol

[Z0_o6]

I say Joey should enjoy the limelight while he's got it. When I arrive in one seriously ugly civic, he'll know what's up.

<3


Chouston- Don't waste your damn time and money on the greddy kit. It will ALL have to be replaced for any good numbers later. There have been TONS of well set up guys doing 550-600whp on STOCK K20's. Realistically, with the fuel system limitations of the RSX and the fact that it will never hook, I'd go to around 400 and be perfectly happy. It's plenty quick, without breaking shit constantly.

[Catnip]

Damn, Chris was just nice to Houston... *looks to see if hell is frozen*

[DarKStaR]

eh im in no limelight right now, my car isnt even that fast right now. Going to get retune in the next few weeks and finally turn it up. Shooting for 10s on this turbo and then going to go big. I mean how fast can it be if its still on pump gas.... :ninja:

[Z0_o6]

I mean how fast can it be if its still on pump gas.... :ninja:

I'm the wrong one to ask this question. I will stick with my cheap corn juice lol
Although it will take a while to overcome the cost offset by the huge fuel system. Just ordered my Bosch 044 inline, hopefully it can keep up with 100psi reliably. If it isn't enough I'll need ANOTHER bosch, and ID2000's

[DarKStaR]

Well i meant 93oct. when i upgrade the turbo im gonna have to go with a bigger fuel system also, so im looking forward to more power but at the same time im not lol

[Z0_o6]

shit's too expensive man. i need a better hobby like... reading.

[thundercatz1]

I say Joey should enjoy the limelight while he's got it. When I arrive in one seriously ugly civic, he'll know what's up.

<3


Chouston- Don't waste your damn time and money on the greddy kit. It will ALL have to be replaced for any good numbers later. There have been TONS of well set up guys doing 550-600whp on STOCK K20's. Realistically, with the fuel system limitations of the RSX and the fact that it will never hook, I'd go to around 400 and be perfectly happy. It's plenty quick, without breaking shit constantly.

I appreciate that man, 400 hp is enough for me dont really wanna go over that since it will be my daily. I have heard greddy wasnt the way to go, but was looking for cheap boost. I guees I will go with the full race turbo kit and K-pro by tax time.

[Z0_o6]

Full-Race is the shit. Expensive, but you get a good product.


QWK- so what is going in here again? I forgot.

[boosted347]

or piece together your own kit houston with parts you want/like

[thundercatz1]

or piece together your own kit houston with parts you want/like

Another option I'm considering, Hopefully whatever I decide it will be done by tax time.... then maybe I might have something for you thats worth running lol

[CaTcH22]

Full-Race is the shit. Expensive, but you get a good product.


QWK- so what is going in here again? I forgot.

I never said, bwwahahahaha..... :ninja:

[boosted347]

Another option I'm considering, Hopefully whatever I decide it will be done by tax time.... then maybe I might have something for you thats worth running lol

ah my little rustangs a little much for you na but i do respect a boosted k they are much more fun to beat and actually worth runnin :) but hope it goes smoothly and gets done on time...i am actually about to up the boost on mine and get it dynoed so you may actually get to kno wut you are running

[CaTcH22]

Engine bay is painted. In an emergency call, because the original painter had to work, Jon (Vtecace23) came over and laid down a very EXCELLENT lookin, professional paint job. He helped in the prep work and sanding, because i'm basiclly helpless when it comes to painting. Im very pleased at how it went down, and how fast this setup is going. Ordering the turbo tomorrow....



http://i728.photobucket.com/albums/ww287/QWKD15/webjon1.jpg

http://i728.photobucket.com/albums/ww287/QWKD15/webjonvc.jpg

http://i728.photobucket.com/albums/ww287/QWKD15/webblack1.jpg

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[DarKStaR]

looking good man

[Black4DrEK]

Good shit!

[CaTcH22]

It turned out awesome. The engine should be goin in this week...

[Black4DrEK]

Damn you and your sneaky VC pic... HAHAHA

[CaTcH22]

Yep.... :ninja:

Its a pretty small vc, look how easy it fits behind the square....

[Black4DrEK]

SHIT.. i could see a B, D, H, K valve cover behind that square.. LOL

[Evil Goat]

F SERIES BITCH!

[CaTcH22]

????????? BITCH! SHHHHHHH !!! Dont give up my secret f22 non vtec build. Lol. BUT I will say that the valve cover DOES NOT say Vtec on it though.

[boosted347]

lookin good man cant wait to see this thing done...you d was pretty quick untuned so cant wait to see what you do now

[gforce71]

SHHHHHHH !!! Dont give up my secret f22 non vtec build. Lol. BUT I will say that the valve cover DOES NOT say Vtec on it though.

NO VTEC FTW!!!


... wait, what?

[DarKStaR]

lookin good man cant wait to see this thing done...you d was pretty quick untuned so cant wait to see what you do now

It was street tuned down to a T by himself

[CaTcH22]

Ready to be towed to the shop to fiinish it up.

http://i728.photobucket.com/albums/ww287/QWKD15/webblack4.jpg

[Z0_o6]

is the driver's side motor mount bracket missing? :ninja:

[DarKStaR]

Yep, that stock civic mount sucks......:ninja:

[JJSPEC Racing]

is the driver's side motor mount bracket missing? :ninja:

No. The whole drivers side mount is missing. Had to take it out to paint the engine bay.

[CaTcH22]

I had to order new motor mounts anyways. The GT35R should be here soon. I hope its not too small :ninja:....

[JJSPEC Racing]

You need to order some drag radials for the front tires too! Just sayin'

[DarKStaR]

must be nice....

[CaTcH22]

Im gonna rotate the new tires to the back and maybe get some drag radials...

[boosted347]

^ maybe???

if you are slappin a gt35r on it you should prob def get some lol

[JJSPEC Racing]

Burn the old ones off first.....

















......in third gear, lol!

[CaTcH22]

^ maybe???

if you are slappin a gt35r on it you should prob def get some lol
i ALMOST got a gt40 because it was a good deal. But I didnt want the T4 flange it had. I hope I didnt make the wrong choice.

[Z0_o6]

I can't really knock the GT35R. I thoroughly enjoy mine. I'm ready to see how the T3/T67 H.O. does :)

[CaTcH22]

I can't really knock the GT35R. I thoroughly enjoy mine. I'm ready to see how the T3/T67 H.O. does :)

What .ar/.ar was your gt35?

[Z0_o6]

it is a .70ar cold side with a .82 hotside. It's back on the STi now, I think when I turn the STi up on the new setup (ohhhhh one day lol) then I may swap over to the 1.06a/r hotside i have.

[CaTcH22]

it is a .70ar cold side with a .82 hotside. It's back on the STi now, I think when I turn the STi up on the new setup (ohhhhh one day lol) then I may swap over to the 1.06a/r hotside i have.

Thats what I ordered. Hopefully it'll do good.

[Z0_o6]

well i don't know what its going on lol. On my stock a2 it spooled around 5000 RPM and got pretty crazy after that. Similar with the sti, but less crazy, more noisy

[DarKStaR]

Qwk you should be happy with that gt35 for the power you are wanting for now. Ive seen them make high 600s on b series, so it should be plenty for that d series..... lol wut... :ninja:

[Got Milk?]

I could tow it faster than a WRX...
The D had 3 under its sleeve, 2 were STI's

Sounds to me like you ran some stock STI's.

[CaTcH22]

Sounds to me like you ran some stock STI's.

May have been, dont know, dont care. I know that a 3xxWhp single had enough for the 3 I raced.

[CaTcH22]

Qwk you should be happy with that gt35 for the power you are wanting for now. Ive seen them make high 600s on b series, so it should be plenty for that d series..... lol wut... :ninja:

I would love to see low boost be in the 300's and high boost to go into the 600's, but I will have to wait till march to see high boost.

[DarKStaR]

why march?

[CaTcH22]

Tax time. The motor is in stock form now. The bottom-end anyways. The head is fully built with a cam/cams, springs, retainers, p&p....etc.

[CaTcH22]

See what I did there? .....

[Got Milk?]

300 on low boost is great. G/L on the build, it's a shame you have to wait for tax money to finish it tho.

[DarKStaR]

See what I did there? .....
Indeed i did. But i already know what you are doing ;)

Is it a certain someones head?

[CaTcH22]

Prolly not, cuz I think I know who youre takin about and its not that motor....

[CaTcH22]

300 on low boost is great. G/L on the build, it's a shame you have to wait for tax money to finish it tho.

It's cool, March is not that far. I have other priorities right now, building this motor is close to the bottom.....until March. lol.

[Evil Goat]

Sounds to me like you ran some stock STI's.

SHUT YOUR WEAK ASS UP!

[h22 jones]

johnathans head?

[CaTcH22]

No, this is a motor that came out of state.

[JJSPEC Racing]

johnathans head?

Is that an El Camino in the background of your sig? Nice!

[h22 jones]

thats the old main stream building lol.

[CaTcH22]

**UPDATES COMING SOON**

[EmminoDaGreat]

Here is my question, are you changing upper radiator hoses :) PS engine bay looking good

[Got Milk?]

SHUT YOUR WEAK ASS UP!

YOU SHUT YOUR WEAK ASS UP.

See how that doesn't work either way? Internetz got you all scrambled inside your head boy.

[Z0_o6]

LOLWUT

[Evil Goat]

YOU SHUT YOUR WEAK ASS UP.

See how that doesn't work either way? Internetz got you all scrambled inside your head boy.

a month later? lol...go race some d-series civics or something

[Echonova]

a month later? Not to stick up for him or anything... But IA did crash a lot.

[Evil Goat]

Not to stick up for him or anything... But IA did crash a lot.

oh....I figured he was just busy blowing some black guy....

[CaTcH22]

Ok....... I finally got the car together and most of the bugs worked out. It was late when I got it back to the house, but in the morning I will check everything over real good to make sure its still good.

Jimmy and I completed a few last minute details and took it straight to the gas station and then headed out for some street tuning. Jimmy volunteered is driving skills while I did some datalogging and tuning. It will see some dyno time later, however the numbers will probably stay with us for now. I was perfectly pleased with the tune, however had some slight boost creep issues. It has a 6psi WS spring for now, but was creeping up to 10-11, so its real conservative right now until I can build the bottonend.

I know you guys only care about the pics, so here you go.















http://i728.photobucket.com/albums/ww287/QWKD15/webengine1.jpg

http://i728.photobucket.com/albums/ww287/QWKD15/webengine2.jpg

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And here are some pics of Jimmy's prototype coolant catch can.
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YEAH, thats an H22 with a gt3582r, lol. And that thing pulls as hard on 6-8psi as my single cam was at 18-20psi.
Cant wait to build this thing and crank it to 20psi+!!

[JJSPEC Racing]

4th gear Vtec FTW!!! Been a while since I drove something that fun on the street!

[CaTcH22]

I didnt think we were gonna get to 135mph THAT quick. lol

[Evil Goat]

That shit is blinging!

Chris Houston.......where ya at son?

[h22 jones]

Finaly something got my attention not that im a h man or anything lol. Speaking of that i got a couple h22 cranks , crower rods , eagle rods, and some brand new 9-1 maul pistons for sell need something to build the bottom end ? Ask jimmy about the maule pistons im not sure ive never used them but he says good things ,maye be all you need for a cheap no sleeve bottom end that will make a ton of power. I dont use h22 cranks or rods in any of my all motor buids (i like the stroke) so let me know what you need i got tones of stuff matter fact i had a set of 9-1 je pistons to let me see if i can put my hands on them . I think i left them with rudy at quaility machine when he said he could sleeve h22 blocks to hold 40 pounds of boost for 300 dollars . I have yet to see that block lol after almost two years i just left it down there because i figured if he ever realy did it it would be worth 300 dollars lol . Seriously im sure my pistons are still there just let me know what you need ect. for the crower rods everything else is brand new never used. Im supposed to sell a h22 crank and set of rods sunday but i got three sets of eagle and that set of crower . I think i still got four good h22 cranks laying around and four h23 cranks if you wanna go that route oh and three f23 cranks if you wanna go that route lol.

[CaTcH22]

Alright I'll let you know, im kinda strapped for cash right now from tryin to just get back on the road, but I will be building it after the first of the year with a simple 9:1 mahle/eagle setup. So I will get with you then. Now you see why I had her ask you about getting a motor swap. lol.

[h22 jones]

Also im sure jj knows way more then i do on this subject but i didnt have good luck on stock h22 pistons running boost so i wouldnt suggest running over 8 pounds just my two cents . Mine was a beast on 8 pounds on the street when i had it in the si hatch and it wasnt half the setup you got so im sure yours is alot of fun stop by and take me for a ride if you get a chance.

[h22 jones]

yup you should have told me i got a tone of stuff i would have helped how ever i could have i love a h22 . If you got something to trade let me know i got all this stuff in trade you know how i do it ill hook you up hell id give you pistons and rods brand new for 400 cant get any better then that. Hell find a stock h23 or h22 block laying around in good shape and ill sell you another crank for 100 bucks then you got 500 in a built bottom end through a head on your stock one get your money back lol.

[h22 jones]

What transmission you running ? i think i got a couple h23 and i hear there pretty good for boost on h22s that t2t4(f20b lsd trany) i gave my dad to put in his car (we took the m2b4 lsd trany out) would be nasty in there . Mainstream has one for sell in that ek hatch there parting out wow i realy keep up with the h series shit to much lol. I seriously couldnt tell you shit about a b series as far as specs and shit as much honda knowledge as i have lol.

[CaTcH22]

Im honestly still learning this h22 stuff. I have no idea what transmission is in this car. I know thats terrible, but I think Jimmy knows more about whats in my car than I do. I have been so focused on the fabrication of all the piping , mounts, turbo, etc... that all I know is that the head is fully built. hahaha.

[CaTcH22]

Im hoping that with a good tune I can make this engine last a while, I have been datalogging and hawk-eyeing the wideband everytime I get on it.

[h22 jones]

jj knows what he is doing if he put it in there it will work good together . h22s have very weak ring glands hell i tore one apart yesturday just to freshen it up before putting it in a customers car and it had twp broke ringlands . This was a bone stock motor that has probably 80,000 miles on it running on a stock ecu . It ran fine compression was 220 across the board i just heard a little noise that i been worrying about for two years lol. I broke ring glands in three sets of type s pistons just trying to run all motor before i switched to cp pistons. There ring glands are terrible man lol be careful. I have heard of people running 8 pounds with a good tune and lasting a good while . As soon as they tried to just bump it up to 10 ponds the ring glands broke this is why you dont see boosted stock h22s every were . Everybody says its because of the frm sleeves but that has nothing to do with it they actualy run cooler and have less friction then steal sleeves .As long as you put a decent piston (like a maul) that will run in the frm sleeves they are very strong considering the obd1 are solid deck . It just took someone forever to come out with a piston that would run in them . If the piston would hold up i beleive the stock block would make 600hp. what is your hp goals? Charles at mainstream said they make 400 on boosted maul pistons all the time but i think they have problems when trying more then that. JJ has sprayed the piss put of them with great luck either way good luck man just figured id give you some information since you dont know much about them and im sure you want to enjoy your car some before building the bottom end.

[h22 jones]

change your signature so i dont have to go back a page to look at it lol.

[thundercatz1]

That shit is blinging!

Chris Houston.......where ya at son?

I'm ready son!!!!

75 shot tuned:ninja: ftw

[Evil Goat]

150 or bust!

[Catnip]

So, Josh... you'll be my hero once you start your build. Totally my "dream build."

/nutswinging.

[thundercatz1]

150 or bust!

I have"nt been in the nitrous game in a while so, I wont go that much just yet lolol.

[CaTcH22]

change your signature so i dont have to go back a page to look at it lol.

done

[boosted347]

nice build man i bet its gonna be beast when its totally finished and built :) congrats man

[JJSPEC Racing]

Man that is an awesome sig pic! That camera is good, but the engine bay looks great in person too!

[Evil Goat]

So, Josh... you'll be my hero once you start your build. Totally my "dream build."

/nutswinging.

you're already my hero :)

lol, i'm working on it....still in search of a chassis....I have a promising lead on a 79 capri 4-eye RS.....pretty much what I'm looking for minus the taillights/hatch, which can be changed

[CaTcH22]

nice build man i bet its gonna be beast when its totally finished and built :) congrats man

Thanks man, it feels pretty good now on 8psi. I cant wait for about 20! LOL.

[CaTcH22]

Man that is an awesome sig pic! That camera is good, but the engine bay looks great in person too!

Thanks Jimmy for all the help man. It took some time but it turned out excellent.

[DarKStaR]

Looks good in person, and sounded good. I felt like we were at a car show last night lol, with our "lsvtec's" LULZ

[CaTcH22]

That was crazy, I was just tryin to show you, then everyone came over.

[boosted347]

Thanks man, it feels pretty good now on 8psi. I cant wait for about 20! LOL.
haha its gonna be a monster in 20...i gotta get rid of my stock block and get a DART so i can go to close to 20 :)

[CaTcH22]

haha its gonna be a monster in 20...i gotta get rid of my stock block and get a DART so i can go to close to 20 :)

Yeah that would a mean car. This car is fun as hell on 8, 20 will be sick.

[boosted347]

if you feel at liberty to tell, i would love to hear what it does on the track :)

[CaTcH22]

I will let everyone know. Im researchin this same setup using stock internals, and what its limits are.

[gforce71]

your turbo manifold... I want it! haha. looks awesome man, I can't wait to see it run.

[CaTcH22]

your turbo manifold... I want it! haha. looks awesome man, I can't wait to see it run.

We can make you one.... :ninja:

[DarKStaR]

Good thing we didnt go do a fun run last night after what you called me and told me! lol

[CaTcH22]

Whatchu talkn bout willis.......

But for real, I know!

[thundercatz1]

Good thing we didnt go do a fun run last night after what you called me and told me! lol

PM me this info, I might need this critical info to get a win!!!!!! lol

[DarKStaR]

um its not what you are thinking lol, what it was is fixed now and doesnt have to worry about it anymore haha good try though.

[boosted347]

so houston did you put NAWZZZ on the rsx or the rustang

[thundercatz1]

um its not what you are thinking lol, what it was is fixed now and doesnt have to worry about it anymore haha good try though.


DAMNIT LOL JK


so houston did you put NAWZZZ on the rsx or the rustang

I didnt have none on the RSX but the rustang needs a little bottle to get going hint hint lol

[DarKStaR]

i have a kit...hint hint

[thundercatz1]

i have a kit...hint hint

What if I already have a kit........:ninja:

[DarKStaR]

must have gotten evil goats then.... :ninja:

[thundercatz1]

must have gotten evil goats then.... :ninja:

You know what I like about switching up cars, nobody knows exactly whats under the hood except what comes from the factory lol... U have noticed that I havent ran anybody lately because I am working on something thats gonna make mike jones shiver lololol

[DarKStaR]

Well whatever you have under there is SLOW

[thundercatz1]

Well whatever you have under there is SLOW

LOL only if you knew buddy.

[Evil Goat]

must have gotten evil goats then.... :ninja:

lulz....a nissan owner is purchasing my kit!

[Catnip]

Wha

[DarKStaR]

LOL only if you knew buddy.
I dont want to know how slow it is

[thundercatz1]

I dont want to know how slow it is

:tongue1:

[boosted347]

DAMNIT LOL JK



I didnt have none on the RSX but the rustang needs a little bottle to get going hint hint lol

if you are hint hinting that i should install a little giggle gas on my car my retort is my pushrod makes low end tq unlike little girly modulars :ninja:


Well whatever you have under there is SLOW

this is true its a sohc 2v 4.6 :)

[thundercatz1]

if you are hint hinting that i should install a little giggle gas on my car my retort is my pushrod makes low end tq unlike little girly modulars :ninja:



this is true its a sohc 2v 4.6 :)

I was talking about my rustang not yours



:cry: 2valve FTL

[CaTcH22]

I got some numbers. We were checkin out a couple minor issues, and decided to pull it on the dyno one time.

This is on a, LITERALLY, 15 minute street tune. Really rich, EXTREMEY low timing just to be safe, and I turned down my rev limiter to 8200. This is creeping to about 13 psi.

http://i728.photobucket.com/albums/ww287/QWKD15/webnumbers.jpg

And here is a older comparison of the sohc on 14psi versus the new 15 minute street tune.


http://i728.photobucket.com/albums/ww287/QWKD15/webdyno.jpg

350whp and 235wtq isnt bad for 13psi and 15 minutes. I didnt even have the laptop at work. Lol

[boosted347]

nice numbers man

[h22 jones]

I have almost as many cubic inches in my four cylinder as you do in that little v8 lol. I thought we was running real horse power you know all motor horse power isnt that what you said ? Now you going to get the easy button on me . I got golden eagle block and forged cp pistons you arnt the only one that can use the easy button sir . Honestly i dont think ill ever need it for you. I beleive my motor will be wore out before you ever get fast ,hell its got 15,000 miles on it right now but i wouldnt counte on it being wore out . It put more down on the dyno one month ago then it did a year and a half ago come get some and bring your pocket book. I have also started building my motor but dont worry about it you got to beat the dd grocery getter first lol thats sad.

[CaTcH22]

nice numbers man

Thats on a Mustang Dyno, thats about 390-395whp on a Dynojet.

[JJSPEC Racing]

I have almost as many cubic inches in my four cylinder as you do in that little v8 lol. I thought we was running real horse power you know all motor horse power isnt that what you said ? Now you going to get the easy button on me . I got golden eagle block and forged cp pistons you arnt the only one that can use the easy button sir . Honestly i dont think ill ever need it for you. I beleive my motor will be wore out before you ever get fast ,hell its got 15,000 miles on it right now but i wouldnt counte on it being wore out . It put more down on the dyno one month ago then it did a year and a half ago come get some and bring your pocket book. I have also started building my motor but dont worry about it you got to beat the dd grocery getter first lol thats sad.

Easy button, hahahaha! I like that! That is a good name for it. I can see it in my mind, 2 guys in a car racing and the passenger looks all depressed because they are getting beat, then the driver says no problem and hit the easy button. Instant win. Of course in the real world it wouldnt be so easy, lol.

[justnprsh07]

Yal some fools... I'm glad to see you got it going and that's crazy power for a stock bottom, and are you using those same cams? I got my block problem fixed and upgrated a little so I plan on seeing you guys next week sometime

[JJSPEC Racing]

Sweet!

[thundercatz1]

I have almost as many cubic inches in my four cylinder as you do in that little v8 lol. I thought we was running real horse power you know all motor horse power isnt that what you said ? Now you going to get the easy button on me . I got golden eagle block and forged cp pistons you arnt the only one that can use the easy button sir . Honestly i dont think ill ever need it for you. I beleive my motor will be wore out before you ever get fast ,hell its got 15,000 miles on it right now but i wouldnt counte on it being wore out . It put more down on the dyno one month ago then it did a year and a half ago come get some and bring your pocket book. I have also started building my motor but dont worry about it you got to beat the dd grocery getter first lol thats sad.

LOL I'm going to bring my man purse and after I rebuild the rear end with some better gears and axles your gonna be like"WTF Houstons winning" you might just drive that hatch into Lake Tobo...... I kid

It will be close guaranteed, we will run one on and off the bottle, we would have to do the bottle first since thats what the tune is setup for.

[DarKStaR]

nice numbers Justin, do you remember the tempeture last night when you dynoed?

[JJSPEC Racing]

It was 82 degrees at that time.

[boosted347]

Easy button, hahahaha! I like that! That is a good name for it. I can see it in my mind, 2 guys in a car racing and the passenger looks all depressed because they are getting beat, then the driver says no problem and hit the easy button. Instant win. Of course in the real world it wouldnt be so easy, lol.

lol easy button
http://www.camptaichi.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/tai-chi-needs-an-easy-button.jpg


LOL I'm going to bring my man purse and after I rebuild the rear end with some better gears and axles your gonna be like"WTF Houstons winning" you might just drive that hatch into Lake Tobo...... I kid

It will be close guaranteed, we will run one on and off the bottle, we would have to do the bottle first since thats what the tune is setup for.

1. Bolt on 4.6, no need for axles it would be a waste of money, if you are sprayin a 175+ shot on sticky tires maybe
2. I think off the bottle it goes to h22j jones, on the bottle a little closer but boils down more to driver, so h22 jones

p.s. vids or it never happened

[thundercatz1]

lol easy button
http://www.camptaichi.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/tai-chi-needs-an-easy-button.jpg



1. Bolt on 4.6, no need for axles it would be a waste of money, if you are sprayin a 175+ shot on sticky tires maybe
2. I think off the bottle it goes to h22j jones, on the bottle a little closer but boils down more to driver, so h22 jones

p.s. vids or it never happened

I'm not a driver I'm an operator:yes:

[JJSPEC Racing]

I'm not a driver I'm an operator:yes:

I'm a driver, I dont just operate a car, lol! Just sayin!

[boosted347]

I'm not a driver I'm an operator:yes:

excuses excuses :)
p.s. on the sig...the 4.6 is ghey shoulda got a 5.0

[thundercatz1]

excuses excuses :)
p.s. on the sig...the 4.6 is ghey shoulda got a 5.0

They have a little defect from the factory where the engine ticks pretty loud check it out and it gets worse after your first oil change.... 40 grand for a car the motor should be quiet.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jB-F409uegg

[boosted347]

They have a little defect from the factory where the engine ticks pretty loud check it out and it gets worse after your first oil change.... 40 grand for a car the motor should be quiet.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jB-F409uegg
yea but alot of new design motors has things like that, especially from ford, look at the new body f250 they put the motor so far back you had to remove the cab to work on anything on the backside of the motor, plus it kinda counters it with the fact that it runs 12s stock lol but it almost sounds like a rocker arm tapping lol or a lifter that isnt seated yet

[Evil Goat]

I'm not a driver I'm an operator:yes:

I'm a driver....I can be rented for a couple races at SDR....

[thundercatz1]

yea but alot of new design motors has things like that, especially from ford, look at the new body f250 they put the motor so far back you had to remove the cab to work on anything on the backside of the motor, plus it kinda counters it with the fact that it runs 12s stock lol but it almost sounds like a rocker arm tapping lol or a lifter that isnt seated yet

Yea maybe the motor isnt broken in yet but we will see. 12s stock does make u able to live with it. lol


I'm a driver....I can be rented for a couple races at SDR....

I might need to rent you for a few hrs lol.

[boosted347]

this is true i honestly would be extremely pissed if it was my brand new car that did it, good thing i dont graduate til 2012 it should be fixed by then :) and houston you cant rent josh for your runs against h22 jones lol, and josh once i get a tranny and axles to handle my tq ill rent you to drive my slow hunk of shit down the 1320' :)

also on the stock 12s thing my buddy was in bowling green at a mustang event and some dude was claiming his was an all stock automatic that was on street tires and it consistently ran 12.2s lol can you say full of shit and lying

[thundercatz1]

this is true i honestly would be extremely pissed if it was my brand new car that did it, good thing i dont graduate til 2012 it should be fixed by then :) and houston you cant rent josh for your runs against h22 jones lol, and josh once i get a tranny and axles to handle my tq ill rent you to drive my slow hunk of shit down the 1320' :)

also on the stock 12s thing my buddy was in bowling green at a mustang event and some dude was claiming his was an all stock automatic that was on street tires and it consistently ran 12.2s lol can you say full of shit and lying

On that last statement I smelled alot of bull coming from that guy in the auto lol. I know I know Ima have to race Mike Jones (who?) Mike Jones myself but I think I can pull it off!

Mike Jones where you at son?

[boosted347]

i mean my buddy saw the 12.2 but im sayin its not stock lol and get to work man dont get beat by a 4 cylinder :ninja:

[thundercatz1]

i mean my buddy saw the 12.2 but im sayin its not stock lol and get to work man dont get beat by a 4 cylinder :ninja:

Ima try my best lol...

[DarKStaR]

no matter what he is going to get beat by a 4 cylinder... :ninja:


I like how yall are thinking josh is a badass driver....LULZ

[CaTcH22]

^^ I think we could show them what a 4 cylinder could do, cuz ive ridin in youre car too!

[Evil Goat]

I like how yall are thinking josh is a badass driver....LULZ


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xg2WLKXexA0

can anyone tell what that is that disappears in the other lane almost immediately?

[DarKStaR]

Indeed you have..... :ninja:

[DarKStaR]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xg2WLKXexA0

LMAO you always post this video. I miss the one time a camera is acutally in my car. I guess you like it so much because its the ONLY time you have ever beaten me down the track ;)

But hey at least i dont punch my dash while shifting....lol

[CaTcH22]

Indeed you have..... :ninja:

And I was pretty surprised. What were youre numbers again??

[DarKStaR]

just a little over 400 in 93 degree weather :(

[CaTcH22]

NICE! Im aiming for those numbers. I got to re-tune it and i'll dyno it again to see.

[h22 jones]

I been scared i rod by the firestation and saw your car was so fast it blowed the top off and the stripes off the back (or somebody was to cheap to finish outting them on ) so i went strait to lake tobo and drove my dads car into it lmao. That sounds almost as dumb when i said it as it did when you said it. Maybe i been installing the easy button who knows all you need to figure out is how to beat me first thing to do is go buy another new car lol. All i want is your money so that every were you go and start talking shit they can say hey isnt that your money hanging on the wall at such and suches place . I would like to be paid in one dollar bills because i have 500 frames and alot of places to hang your money . Atleast im a nice guy i dont even want to spend your money just hang it on the wall thats all.

[JJSPEC Racing]

I'm a driver....I can be rented for a couple races at SDR....

Dont rent a cheap imitation, buy the real deal. Summit is running a special this week only, buy this and get 11tybillion Summit Bucks!

http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u116/jjspec/Prodriver.jpg

[h22 jones]

Thats a little extreme not hard on parts your track record hasnt been that great this year lol.

[JJSPEC Racing]

Ooh, lol! True story. Just remember I have been beating on some of those parts for 4 years, lol! And the ones that failed have been down the track numerous 9 second passes. Guess they deserved to be retired. You taking the hatch to the track soon? I want to see it run since you got the touch up done. Or are you going to wait till ShowDown?

[boosted347]

just so everyone knos i was playin on the 4 cylinder think, i was more or les spoking fun at houston cause when he had the mach 1 no 4 cylinder could beat him, then he got the rsx-s and no v8 could beat him, now he has a rustang again, you see where i is going :) but my "fictitious" money is on h22 jones, sorry houston

[japan4racing]

hmmmm...2v with bolt ons vs h22jones.....sorry 2v you gonna get raped!....2v on 75 shot....you gonna get raped again but this time with lube so it wont be as bad!

[h22 jones]

Yea were taking it to the track soon . After i gave my dad my motor out the accord i put his f20b in it (f20b went 13.5 in the hatch bone stop 5 times in a row its a very nice cheap swap) and gave it to my sister well she was driving it when it flooded awhile back and just so happened to be the same day i took the bumper off to get the front end alighned and she sucked up water bent every rod in the motor lol so she has had my dads truck for the last couple of months . We didnt want to tack the car to the track with him not having his truck as a back up and my wifes cousin has had my tahoe since i bought a new expedition . I finaly got my motor in my four door accord that im going to use for a dd till it sells and i put the motor in my sisters accord today i just got to paint the hood tomorrow ( i raised the lift up 6 months ago and the hood hit the top of the lift not pretty lol) and finish up everything . i got alot of money in that car and hated seeing it like it was so now i have alot more money in it lol ( yes the pink wheels are gone i couldnt handle it0 but it will be nice again and my sister will be happy. I was building a motor for the accord but i only have two clean stock blocks and i wanted to save them for all motor builds . Allmotor x texted me last week and sold my a clean f20b five speed motor ,brand new brian crower stage 2 cams ,brand new skunk2 intake with 68mm throttlebody for 600 thanks man that was a hell of a deal i realy appreciate it . I decided to just give the f20b to my sister since her computer is tunned for a f20b anyway and if im going to build a motor it mine as well be a fully built one . Thanks to jj hooking me up with a guy i got my 55mm dart block i been looking for so im fixing to build my motor everything is coming together pretty good. I towed my hatch to the shop today to start on the engine bay ill post pictures as soon as i get started .

[Z0_o6]

^^ I think we could show them what a 4 cylinder could do, cuz ive ridin in youre car too!

there are a few around here that could do that lol

[h22 jones]

I have two sets of types cams and valve train also the brian crower stage 2 cams plus the skunk2 pro2 cams. I also have the 55mm main f20b block that just came out of my sisters car plus my 55mm main dart block. i got 3 f23 cranks 1 55mm main h23 crank and plenty of 50mm main h23 cranks . I got a set of mauhle pistons that will be 12.3 compression bolted to f23 crank and rods plus my set of weisco pistons that im running in my big motor. My point is i have enough shit to build my big motor and two more h motors over 250hp. Im thinking of building my wife a 250hp hatch so i will have something for my sister to race and for me to play with along with my dads hatch till i build my car . My car is going to take a while because i want it realy clean and being that paint and body is what i make most my money on( yea who would have none lol i just fool with hondas mostly as a hobby) i have the means to make my hatch flawless and i plan on it . Im going to get some gas for my welder tomorrow and get started time to have some fun guys. My dad is almost finished building my friend in atls motor ( we run into a problem with the block so jj if you have a h22a4 block for sale call me) that should be close to 280 all motor hp also .This year and next year should be fun im tired of nobody being in the allmotor class maybe ill enter four cars myself lol.

[h22 jones]

I do not speed shift my dads car or realy push it at all he loves this car and truely drives it everyday. I would like it to run a 11.9 and when i get another motor built for a backup we might push it a little harder as far as my car goes i dont give a shit we going to make it run no matter what it takes lol. It will be atleast 300 pounds lighter then my dads ,h2b ,and should put out a few more ponies . I think a 11 second allmotor street car would be very nice around here and im sure my dads will do that .I have no idea what mine will do traction will always be the issue and most people running f23 cranks are making over 200 foot pounds of tourqe all motor thats just nasty. Traction will defently be a problem hopfully i can run 24 inch slicks and still keep my gearing i want since its h2b . I have a couple b series tranys i want to try so we will see.

[h22 jones]

As sad as i was to see your car break you deffently got the goodies out your parts jj i will say that. I realy think if you got in the all motor game you would enjoy it since its so competitve . I mean did you read the big race on honda-tech every car was 10.6 or 10.5 except for the pepsie k20 and it run 10.2 but broke thats just sick for a allmotor street car and that was like 8 different cars that competitive i love it. Ill never spend the money to run tens in a allmotor and i have never realy wanted a all out drag car (the cams you have to run in allmotor to run tens arnt street friendly at all ) i love how smooth a honda runs and the fact that it can look and run so stock but be such a beast . I do beleive i can run mid to high 11s allmotor without cutting a car to pieces or running stage 3 cams and thats what id like to do simple as that.

[CaTcH22]

I'm a driver....I can be rented for a couple races at SDR....

No, now youre a Pilot. Lol

[CaTcH22]

there are a few around here that could do that lol

Yep, Yours too! Lol.

[Evil Goat]

No, now youre a Pilot. Lol

bwahahahahaha!

[boosted347]

hmmmm...2v with bolt ons vs h22jones.....sorry 2v you gonna get raped!....2v on 75 shot....you gonna get raped again but this time with lube so it wont be as bad!
see the 4v guy knos his shit too

[Evil Goat]

But hey at least i dont punch my dash while shifting or ever run 10's....lol

Fixed!

[DarKStaR]

Yet. I havnt ran my car but twice.....how long did it take you? with how much power?

[thundercatz1]

hmmmm...2v with bolt ons vs h22jones.....sorry 2v you gonna get raped!....2v on 75 shot....you gonna get raped again but this time with lube so it wont be as bad!

O the doubts how I love it to prove you guys wrong lol

[Evil Goat]

Yet. I havnt ran my car but twice.....how long did it take you? with how much power?

I ran 10.98 in a car that shouldn't have went that fast lifting on every shift.....I could've popped another set of pills in and knocked down 10's with ease but it was all about getting that perfect run....

not to mention I probably had less in my entire setup than you have in a turbo and manifold....your car should run 10's this go around....if you need a driver I'm available, lol

and just because this picture cracks me up...

http://videogum.com/img/thumbnails/photos/you_mad.jpg

[japan4racing]

O the doubts how I love it to prove you guys wrong lol

So you are saying you are gonna slap a 75 shot on a 2v and run faster than 12.3?

[boosted347]

O the doubts how I love it to prove you guys wrong lol
do it then :) 2vs are just not the performance oriented persons choice when it comes to modulars, they take a shit load of work to make real extreme power is all im sayin for the money you are gonna put in it to say make 500 whp, thats not like a 300 shot lol which your car wouldnt hold, i could make 700-800 on my pushrod,i will say at least yours is a PI motor



So you are saying you are gonna slap a 75 shot on a 2v and run faster than 12.3?
Very doubtful but ya never kno, if he did weight reduction, drag suspension, on straight slicks i could say maybe, but only time and a trip to SDR will tell

[thundercatz1]

So you are saying you are gonna slap a 75 shot on a 2v and run faster than 12.3?

What makes you think I cant go higher? stock 2v motors can handle 100 shot untuned but mine will be.

[CaTcH22]

A stock PI Mustang on a 75 shot is only about 310-320 rwhp. Is that gonna be enough for a 12.3?? Even a tuned 100 shot will only make about 350whp, and that car is heavy...

[thundercatz1]

A stock PI Mustang on a 75 shot is only about 310-320 rwhp. Is that gonna be enough for a 12.3?? Even a tuned 100 shot will only make about 350whp, and that car is heavy...

Its only a 140 lbs heaver in stock trim compared to a hard top.....

On Mustangforums.com

Weight - Your basic 5 speed coupe without driver weights 3250lbs. So with an average driver weighing about 180lbs that puts your race weight at 3430lbs. At that weight and a power to weight ratio of .075 you would need 258RWHP to hit 12’s. Power to weight is the power of your car (rear wheel) divided by race weight of the car. Using my car when I broke into the 12’s first time I was making 246RWHP and had a race weight of 3250lb, which worked out to a .075 power to weight ratio or .075RWHP per pound of the car. From what I’ve seen a car can get into the 12s with a .075 to .080 P/W ratio. So if your race weight is 3430lbs then 3430 * .075 = 257.25RWHP. As long as you keep this ratio in the .075 to .080 range you are fine plus keep in mind you can drop weight instead of adding power. An example of this is a car with a 3000lb race weight could break into the 12s with 225RWHP (close to stock power on a GT).

Rebuttle anyone?

[Apex1972]

I have two sets of types cams and valve train also the brian crower stage 2 cams plus the skunk2 pro2 cams. I also have the 55mm main f20b block that just came out of my sisters car plus my 55mm main dart block. i got 3 f23 cranks 1 55mm main h23 crank and plenty of 50mm main h23 cranks . I got a set of mauhle pistons that will be 12.3 compression bolted to f23 crank and rods plus my set of weisco pistons that im running in my big motor. My point is i have enough shit to build my big motor and two more h motors over 250hp. Im thinking of building my wife a 250hp hatch so i will have something for my sister to race and for me to play with along with my dads hatch till i build my car . My car is going to take a while because i want it realy clean and being that paint and body is what i make most my money on( yea who would have none lol i just fool with hondas mostly as a hobby) i have the means to make my hatch flawless and i plan on it . Im going to get some gas for my welder tomorrow and get started time to have some fun guys. My dad is almost finished building my friend in atls motor ( we run into a problem with the block so jj if you have a h22a4 block for sale call me) that should be close to 280 all motor hp also .This year and next year should be fun im tired of nobody being in the allmotor class maybe ill enter four cars myself lol.

I can has a 250 hp motor?

[DarKStaR]

I ran 10.98 in a car that shouldn't have went that fast lifting on every shift.....I could've popped another set of pills in and knocked down 10's with ease but it was all about getting that perfect run....

not to mention I probably had less in my entire setup than you have in a turbo and manifold....your car should run 10's this go around....if you need a driver I'm available, lol

and just because this picture cracks me up...

http://videogum.com/img/thumbnails/photos/you_mad.jpg
Pussy lift shifting.....

I only had $1500 in my whole turbo setup. I didnt go baller on it like some people lol

My car should go 10s no problem on 24.5s but i will only be able to borrow a set of 22s for the 2 races in november....so on those im hoping for low 11s. Gotta get some different suspension thats adjustable so i can run some 24.5x9s
I wouldnt let you drive my car....it has a weight limit....LULZ

[David88vert]

Its only a 140 lbs heaver in stock trim compared to a hard top.....

On Mustangforums.com

Weight - Your basic 5 speed coupe without driver weights 3250lbs. So with an average driver weighing about 180lbs that puts your race weight at 3430lbs. At that weight and a power to weight ratio of .075 you would need 258RWHP to hit 12’s. Power to weight is the power of your car (rear wheel) divided by race weight of the car. Using my car when I broke into the 12’s first time I was making 246RWHP and had a race weight of 3250lb, which worked out to a .075 power to weight ratio or .075RWHP per pound of the car. From what I’ve seen a car can get into the 12s with a .075 to .080 P/W ratio. So if your race weight is 3430lbs then 3430 * .075 = 257.25RWHP. As long as you keep this ratio in the .075 to .080 range you are fine plus keep in mind you can drop weight instead of adding power. An example of this is a car with a 3000lb race weight could break into the 12s with 225RWHP (close to stock power on a GT).

Rebuttle anyone?

Sure, here's your rebuttle:

The only way that YOU are going to be able to do 12's with 260hp in that convertible Mustang of yours is if you have someone FAST tow you down the track. Or you could try a FLYING 1/4 (not a dig), and you might get to the 12's then - assuming you start from your top speed. :taun:


Your car is a 2000 GT convertible, right? If so, curb weight is 3375 lbs stock, and 260 bhp.
http://www.miracerros.com/mustang/2000_specs.html

A rough calcuation on stock flywheel hp should be about a 14.5 on good tires, on a good track.
With the hp upped to 260 rwhp, you should see around a 13.7.
To make a 12.9, you would need a good launch and cut your weight from the car to keep it at 3375, and about 310 RWHP or 360 bhp.
I figured for a 17% driveline loss.

[boosted347]

Sure, here's your rebuttle:

The only way that YOU are going to be able to do 12's with 260hp in that convertible Mustang of yours is if you have someone FAST tow you down the track. Or you could try a FLYING 1/4 (not a dig), and you might get to the 12's then - assuming you start from your top speed. :taun:


Your car is a 2000 GT convertible, right? If so, curb weight is 3375 lbs stock, and 260 bhp.
http://www.miracerros.com/mustang/2000_specs.html

A rough calcuation on stock flywheel hp should be about a 14.5 on good tires, on a good track.
With the hp upped to 260 rwhp, you should see around a 13.7.
To make a 12.9, you would need a good launch and cut your weight from the car to keep it at 3375, and about 310 RWHP or 360 bhp.
I figured for a 17% driveline loss.
:own3d:
plus you gotta be able to launch a car, and speaking from experience houston, owning a convert myself, your stock suspension is way to soft and has to much body roll/ horrible weight transfer to launch correctly, also if you arent on slicks or at least DRs you arent gonna see low 12s let alone prob high 12s but hey only time and a trip to the track will tell all, go for it i will be thoroughly impressed if you cut a 12.3

[h22 jones]

So how many trips to the track and attempts to run 12s do you get before we run? I mean its been close to a year i would say since i ran a 12.3. My otor could be hurt who knows i could miss three gears ( ive seen it done lol not namimg any names ) you ready to race? i mean whats 500 dollars between friends come on ? Dont let these guys tell you what your car will or will not do man its your car and nobody knows your car like you do. Id prove them all wrong and come take my 500 dollars.

I will be glad to build anybody a 250hp motor, parts arnt cheap and knowledge cost twice as much as the parts . How do you say it jj labor is $40a hour, $60 if you watch and $80 if you help lmao. Honestly man jj has the performance shop around here. My dad does alot of port and polishing for alot of people and i build all mine and my friends motors but this is more of a hobby for me when it comes to the performance side of hondas not what i make my living at . I do own a shop and i do alot of maintness on hondas but my bread and butter as you would say it is paint and body thats what i make most my money at . I like to pick and choose what performance stuff i mess with because if it doesnt intrest me then i would rather be painting something thats why you dont see me building turbo cars if they call i send them to jj . If its a all motor car (preferable h22 i would also do k series) that is going to make some real hp im glad to mess with it . Its not that i got anything against b series but for one i have no bseries parts were i would be willing to beat i got more hseries parts then any shop in the state maybe bigger then that. Also it just takes a tone of money to make allmotor hp with a bseries but if you wanted to spend it i would fool with it . Im not trying to down anybodys setup or what they choose to build dont get me wrong i just like fooling with what i enjoy since this is the hobby side of my buisness and send the rest to jj so he can make a living and help support the honda racing. I have people call me everyday about builds and i answer every question i can trying to help out as much as i can so i hope nobody thinks im being a dick and dont want mess with slower cars its nothing to do with that at all i just dont have time to do everything so i have to do what makes me the most money. If there wasnt another performance shop in macon i might try to do a little more but jj has a very nice shop ,he also does great work and everybdy has to make a living. If you want to make over 250hp on a h series and got a little money then lets do it man.

[Apex1972]

much better looking sig/\

[japan4racing]

What makes you think I cant go higher? stock 2v motors can handle 100 shot untuned but mine will be.

No doubt a 2v will hold a 100 shot...infact all you gotta do is load the factory tune and spray away, monitor your a/f, and adjust the fuel pill untill you have a satisfactory afr and you are in business! the reason I dont think you can hit 12.3 or lower is coming up below


A stock PI Mustang on a 75 shot is only about 310-320 rwhp. Is that gonna be enough for a 12.3?? Even a tuned 100 shot will only make about 350whp, and that car is heavy...

Hey Chris, remember what I just told you above? My car with the bolt-ons I have probably makes, in the neighborhood, of about 290-310whp. last week i ran 13.11@109 with an awful 2.1 60' just as it sits on any given day...no drag radials, no slicks, no aggressive tune...just a daily driver stang. Lets just say you car was making 260whp(which we know its not unless you have considerable bolt ons) and you spray the 75 shot and it makes....310whp with rediculous torque.....I do not see the car going faster than 12.5 on a slick..and mph will be streched out...I dare even to say you will trap 103-105ish on a 12.5 with slicks a 75 shot. Im not trying to rain on your parade or talk shit about you...Im just being realistic.


Its only a 140 lbs heaver in stock trim compared to a hard top.....

On Mustangforums.com
Weight - Your basic 5 speed coupe without driver weights 3250lbs.

I weigh 220lbs and last week my car with me in it weighed 3616lbs...thats 146lbs heavier than you have heard


So with an average driver weighing about 180lbs that puts your race weight at 3430lbs.

even at 180lbs a typical 5 speed weighs at least 3570ish...add the extra 140 and you are at 3710!





Rebuttle anyone?

so you think with a car weighing 3700lbs and making 310whp its gonna run low 12's? I got bad news for ya....my 93 civic dx with ~300whp ran 12.20 on slicks and it weighed 2600lbs....a 3700lb sled with the same whp is not gonna run low 12's...mid to high 12's are in your future if you can short time it.

[thundercatz1]

My car is not stock, I'm only 170 lbs and I seriously doubt my car weighs 3700 lbs, you gotta think the 4 valve mustang motors are heavier than a 2 valve. I know how to drive on the track , I'm not saying i'm the best but I'm sure I can get a good time, plus i got a decent 3.73 gear with some good tires I'm just waiting til I put the 4.10 gear before I go to the track.

Also a basic 5 speed coupe with out a driver weighs 3250 +me(170lbs)+140(Convertable)=3560lbs

I'm confident enough to break 12s easy with my setup.

[David88vert]

My car is not stock, I'm only 170 lbs and I seriously doubt my car weighs 3700 lbs, you gotta think the 4 valve mustang motors are heavier than a 2 valve. I know how to drive on the track , I'm not saying i'm the best but I'm sure I can get a good time, plus i got a decent 3.73 gear with some good tires I'm just waiting til I put the 4.10 gear before I go to the track.

Also a basic 5 speed coupe with out a driver weighs 3250 +me(170lbs)+140(Convertable)=3560lbs

I'm confident enough to break 12s easy with my setup.

3560 lbs needs about 320 rwhp to run 13.0 with a good launch.

My foxbody did not run 12's the last time it was at Commerce. Care to line them up for $300?

[thundercatz1]

3560 lbs needs about 320 rwhp to run 13.0 with a good launch.

My foxbody did not run 12's the last time it was at Commerce. Care to line them up for $300?

Thats cool with me let me build my rear end first and then we can get it done....

Since I'm coming back out hard real soon, for anybody wanting to run me, I will be on slicks and 100 shot so there will be no confusion.

[Z0_o6]

....heeeere we go.

[boosted347]

ding ding ding round 12204983509709 lol :) i would be interested houston ill be in touch once i get teh transmission situation i am in is fixed :)

[thundercatz1]

ding ding ding round 12204983509709 lol :) i would be interested houston ill be in touch once i get teh transmission situation i am in is fixed :)

No problem man

[boosted347]

we can be real men and roll race :thinking:

[thundercatz1]

we can be real men and roll race :thinking:

Nah can we haz dig race?

[boosted347]

ha yes in due time need a $2500 tranny, axles, and slicks then we are good to go :)

[thundercatz1]

ha yes in due time need a $2500 tranny, axles, and slicks then we are good to go :)

What tranny you going with the tko 600?

[boosted347]

prob so, either that or their new tko700 they are about to release, i plan on goin dart block and upping the boost this summer so im planning ahead :)

[Z0_o6]

Nah can we haz dig race?


Sure!

[DarKStaR]

im down for a run at the track....

[boosted347]

i wish i could partake, i have the horrible gut feeling if i put DRs on my car and launch it there would be broken axles and transmission guts all over the track lol, ill catch a track day soon enough and we can all go at it :)

[h22 jones]

Im sure its not going to take all that to out run a little all motor hatch so when you wanna do it friday for 500 at silver dollar ill eve pay your way in? i got my sisters car running so my dad has hid truck back im ready to go to the track. I also got my tahoe back tonight so we have plenty of extra rides now. If anybody wants to buy the tahoe ill probably sell it just get with me.

[boosted347]

^ i assume you are talkin to houston right?

[thundercatz1]

Sure!

lol thats cool


im down for a run at the track....

I already told you the race I want with you lol


Im sure its not going to take all that to out run a little all motor hatch so when you wanna do it friday for 500 at silver dollar ill eve pay your way in? i got my sisters car running so my dad has hid truck back im ready to go to the track. I also got my tahoe back tonight so we have plenty of extra rides now. If anybody wants to buy the tahoe ill probably sell it just get with me.

We will get it done I promise you and you are not gonna like the outcome. lol

[blown_ss]

after reading a little of this im just going to put this out there. 03-04 cobras have around 390hp to the crank and with a good driver they only put out 12.5 for the coupe and the verts do about a 12.9. i will put money on that you dont hit 12s with that shot. i played with a 02 gt coupe with 100 shot in my srt 4 before i got the turbo upgrade and it was a joke. mustangs weigh too much and anyone on here that has one will tell you the same.

let me give you something to think about during your build. EVIL GOAT correct me if im wrong on this but, your car from the factory came with about 350hp to the crank and it weighed about the same as a mustang if not a little heavier. you had a 200 shot to get into the 10s and you started with 100 more hp then houston. so houston with that said he had 300 more hp then you do right now if not more. im not trying to start anything but i think you need to rethink your goals, not saying you cant get them but youre going to need a little more then you planned.

[thundercatz1]

I appreciate your input and maybe you are correct, Ive only seen one 00 mustang gt with a 100 shot do 12.4 at 110mph. So I may need to switch up to a high 12 second car goal for now.

[thundercatz1]

Heres a little muscle to get your day going

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAFXrVumCkE

[DarKStaR]

I already told you the race I want with you lol


you are going to be waiting forever then cause i only go to 1/4mile track, man up.


Heres a little muscle to get your day going

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAFXrVumCkE
dyno queens.....cool

[boosted347]

udk alot of those cars throw down on the track...that fox was ugly as hell though lol