WTC 7

[blaknoize]

With all of this debate over (and if there is any in this thread because I havent been here in awhile) 9/11 and the little conspiracy floating around, blaming the Americans. With regards to the wars that have started because of this and the missing WMD's and the marginalized EPIC terrorist Osama Bin Laden and the removal of Saddam and the unimportant Afganstan.

I have one question. One serious question. How in the world did World Trade Center building 7 collapse and why in our history have no other buildings collapsed in such a way due to fire? I not only believe but KNOW that this was brought down in a controlled demo. There is no other explaination. But I would like to see what this board seems to believe.

Because... the truth is coming and its coming quite fast. Public opinion is changing as people are rejecting the offical report as it completely omits the collapse of WTC7 (among other things). Those who were once "idiots and anti-Americans" are no longer looked down upon. Because families, friends, co-workers and loved ones were lost in the largest killing-spree in American history was not properly scrutinized.

What do you believe brought down World Trade Center 7 and why?

[BanginJimmy]

The same CIA agents that killed the Kennedy brothers did it. They were paid off by the New World Order and paid with brand new Ameros.


Have I forgotten any of the other dumb ass conspiracy theories?




I have a better question for you, since you are so well informed and all. When did they set the explosives, where did they ignite them from, why didnt anyone see the thousands of feet of wires running to the explosives, who set the explosives?

Since you KNOW it was done on purpose, then you obviously KNOW the answers to these simple questions.

BTW, remote detonated exposives couldnt be used for this type of demolition.

[Elbow]

THIS AGAIN? You are kidding right?

Even if it was controlled it doesn't mean Americans controlled it. Hell the US could be protecting our minds and they know terrorists did a lot more than just hijack planes.

If you're going to question anything from all the 9/11 BS question the Pentagon crash. Now THAT is the sketchy stuff, not planes clearly flying into high rise buildings on national television.

[preferredduck]

The same CIA agents that killed the Kennedy brothers did it. They were paid off by the New World Order and paid with brand new Ameros.


Have I forgotten any of the other dumb ass conspiracy theories?




I have a better question for you, since you are so well informed and all. When did they set the explosives, where did they ignite them from, why didnt anyone see the thousands of feet of wires running to the explosives, who set the explosives?

Since you KNOW it was done on purpose, then you obviously KNOW the answers to these simple questions.

BTW, remote detonated exposives couldnt be used for this type of demolition.


there are several people in new york that worked in those buildings and leading up tp everything floors would be closed for a couple of days. watch it and a controlled demo of a cuilding and look at the crown it makes, sorry but science does not lie. a building will not fall on it's own footprint.

also answer this, it fell yet 10 buildings around it did not, i'm no rocket scientist but the math just doesn't add up. it's like bush said 2+2=5 after that and everyone said hell yea.

look at pearl harbor, we were warned then WAR=$$$

also in bab bush's book she mentions marvin bush was the head of security there and his last day was 9/10. the owner of the building also admitted it was pulled(controlled demo) a few years ago and last time i checked it takes months of planning. oh and he only made 4 billion that day on his insurance policy.

[preferredduck]

THIS AGAIN? You are kidding right?

Even if it was controlled it doesn't mean Americans controlled it. Hell the US could be protecting our minds and they know terrorists did a lot more than just hijack planes.

If you're going to question anything from all the 9/11 BS question the Pentagon crash. Now THAT is the sketchy stuff, not planes clearly flying into high rise buildings on national television.

good point, if you look at pics of the pentagon there are no wing holes, no holes where the massive rolls royce engines would have hit, and i'm sorry but if the plane melted then how did they ID the victims dental etc. also if there are a few trained employees who still swear they smelled a certain explosive compound there i would have to look it up.

[Elbow]

there are several people in new york that worked in those buildings and leading up tp everything floors would be closed for a couple of days. watch it and a controlled demo of a cuilding and look at the crown it makes, sorry but science does not lie. a building will not fall on it's own footprint.

also answer this, it fell yet 10 buildings around it did not, i'm no rocket scientist but the math just doesn't add up. it's like bush said 2+2=5 after that and everyone said hell yea.

look at pearl harbor, we were warned then WAR=$$$

also in bab bush's book she mentions marvin bush was the head of security there and his last day was 9/10. the owner of the building also admitted it was pulled(controlled demo) a few years ago and last time i checked it takes months of planning. oh and he only made 4 billion that day on his insurance policy.

Well find me a video of one of those planes hitting ANOTHER building like that one and show me what happens. If you can't, your argument and all of the others conspiracies are complete bullshit because you're basing it off NOTHING.

There were many threats, that new insurance policy set in could of easily been done just in case something happened. If there is a tornado warning do you take precautions or do you run outside and stare at it?

They fell straight down like a demolition, yes. The bottom looked like it fell away bringing down the top, yes. HOWEVER, like I said, compare that to another plane crash and see. There are twenty answers why it was real with details and twenty answers why it was fake.

Oh my God they closed the bottom floor?! COME ON DUDE, that doesn't mean SHIT. Ever been to businesses in Atlanta in sky scrapers? SOME DAYS THEY HAVE AREAS CLOSED!!!!!!!! They don't always explode now do they?


good point, if you look at pics of the pentagon there are no wing holes, no holes where the massive rolls royce engines would have hit, and i'm sorry but if the plane melted then how did they ID the victims dental etc. also if there are a few trained employees who still swear they smelled a certain explosive compound there i would have to look it up.

I'd say missle if I wanted to join that conspiracy. Not by the US, but by someone else, the US covered it up to prevent a mass panic more than we already had.

Many things lead to that, it wasn't a bomb that's for sure.

[Total_Blender]

The WTC building used different construction methods that the other buildings around them. Instead of most buildings where there are support columns and trusses all the way down to the foundation, WTC 7 had a system of transfer trusses because the building was built on the foundation of a previous building project that was scrapped and they wanted to use the existing foundation with a larger footprint.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Wtc7_transfer_trusses.png

Crazy stuff.

[blaknoize]

U know what, fuk yall. :2up: I may have placed the blame on whomever or whatever. But regardless of who had their hands in it. It was no where near properly investigated. Everything was so hush hush. Fuk that. Whether taken on from our government or actually planted by others. The buildings fell down, in a fukin pile, with molten steel in the basements and all you guys can do is call those who doubt "Conspirators"!!

BULLSHIT. If inacted by terrorists, I would only assume they would announce it. If brought on us by our own, they damn sure would hide it. No one was able to investigate it and Bush banned an independent team investigate for the first time in history, why? Wouldn't the worst attack in American history be the most visible and thoroughly investigated event in history??

All the firefighters who were lost for trying to save lives have the backing of Firefighters for 9/11 Truth. They arent crazy, they're pissed and will get the answers their lost brothers and families deserve. Not only that, but there are also Engineers and Architects highly upset over the lies involved in generic physics they are also involved in this 9/11 Truth.

U may call me what u want, but u cannot call all of us crazy. I cant believe you have the balls to doubt those families who are torn apart by fukin murder and put them down for wanting a real investigation with no "omittance" or censorship of 23 fukin pages or to be put down as if they're siding with the "terrorist."

And at least one person will tell me to show proof. You look it up, I did my research. Buy the books, read the stores, watch the easy to find videos. Here are 2 links you can click and LOL all u want, but the truth is there and its not very hard to see.

THE FIREFIGHTERS (http://firefightersfor911truth.org/)

THE ENGINEERS (http://www.ae911truth.org/)

[BanginJimmy]

I wont call you crazy. A little detached from reality maybe, but not crazy.

[blaknoize]

^have u even read the Offical Report or are u bandwagonning because so many used to say the event made plenty of sense?

I am in no way detached from reality. Your very good at attacking people personally for some odd reason.

[adodd3]

I totally agree with you blaknoize, all you have to do is read the Official Report & open your eyes. Is it so hard to believe that your own government is corrupt? It's obvious that this was done for the purpose of starting a war. All I can say is read the report & do sum research. The truth is all over the web. The government hopes that people are simple minded.

[BanginJimmy]

^have u even read the Offical Report or are u bandwagonning because so many used to say the event made plenty of sense?


Do you honestly think that the govt that set up this attack would then allow a report to be published in the open if there were such obvious holes in it that a know nothing like anyone on this site would see it?

The only way your story could make the least bit of sense is if Clinton authorized the attack and didnt tell the Bush administration.




I am in no way detached from reality. Your very good at attacking people personally for some odd reason.


Sorry. Knee jerk reaction to liberals after dealing with Blender for so long.

[Elbow]

I DID believe the conspiracy BS before REALLY looking into it all myself and gathering everything I could.

You're the only one on a bandwagon.

[blaknoize]

I DID believe the conspiracy BS before REALLY looking into it all myself and gathering everything I could.

You're the only one on a bandwagon.

This isnt Ohio State. I dont bandwagon. Me proving to u that what I believed from the beginning will not settle what u think I'm "part" of. I'm clearly not the only one on this so-called wagon, creamy Simon

As for the holes in the report. Why is it that the actual Commissioners object to the official released version of the report that is censored (missing 23 pages I believe) Commissioners like Max Cleland or John Lehman or the other 4 of 10 commissioners? I mean... I wouldnt reject my own work if it was published by me and my staff unless someone tampered with it to the point it was no longer my work. Or removing critical information that was, more or less, the prized piece of my work.