You want drama? You want people to think Im a scammer?

[Nemesis]

Before I say anything in this post, I want to let it be known that I consider Brandon (BKGen) a friend and my personal feelings towards his gf are just that.



So I will outline the course of events that have led me to the fact that AdriScionTC is 100 percent psycho. And shes going around saying I scammed her and mislead her in a purchase. Well here you go kiddos, the entire course of events:


Approximately Wednesday afternoon of last week, I decided to post my laptop up for sale. The laptop I had purchased from Best Buy directly. Now I would post a screenshot
of my actual listing on my Facebook profile but I had removed it soon after I had sold it and delivered it to Adrienne. The posting of the laptop ad went approximately like this:

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Fast laptop! For sale. HP Core-i3/ 500GB HD/ 4GB RAM
Here is the link to the laptop and its specs!

http://www.amazon.com/G62-144DX-Notebook-CoreTM-i3-330M-processor/dp/B003AOPV02

---

A lot of you on my Facebook probably even remember me posting it! I already have a few people that can vouch for this ad and the link I posted.

Either way, Adrienne showed great interest in the laptop for the price of $500 and she said consider it sold!

Like many other electronic transaction Ive made ( people know I go through a lot of electronics!) I always try to sell it at a fair market price and often times much lower.

The laptop was obviously valued at a current Amazon.com rate of 699.00. So I thought it would be fair to sell it for 200 cheaper.



So not expecting a fast transaction like that, I was pressed for time to get personal and other data belonging to other companies off the laptop, including magazine companies that I have shot for in the past. The morning of our meeting I start the data transfer, but was only able to complete about 50 percent of it because she wound up showing up early. With this in mind, at the time of the transaction I let her know this fact, and she agrees to burn the rest of the data/photos/files onto DVDs at which at some other point in time in the future she would provide the discs to me. Thinking that I knew her, and I know Brandon, I did not see any problem with this. We all have hung out many times before without any issue. We do the transaction, I provide the laptop, and she provides the cash payment. On top of this I also provide her a way to retrieve a warranty for the laptop by providing her my Best Buy Reward Zone number to obtain the reciept and provide a proof of purchase to follow through on an Extended Warranty. She is supposedly so pleased with the purchase she posts her "thanks" on my facebook wall.


All is well right? Sign off on another clean transaction? Not quite...

Here are the text messages that ensue:

On July 10th at 7:30 in the morning she sends this:

"Hey I hate to do this, but I didnt realize the computer had an on board graphics card. I thought the specs said something about a graphics card with dedicated memory. Is there anyway I could trade you back"

I respond that a refund isnt really possible since the cash already had went towards other things. ( And quite honestly I feel your ignorance isnt my fault, and you not reading the specs of the machine isnt my fault either)

Now dont get me wrong, Im not an unreasonable person, and those that know me, know that.


Later on she texts me this:

"LOL Well it puts me in a bad position too cause now I got to get another one, I will just throw it on craigslist. Tis all good"

She then inquires about the model number again and I send her the link to the amazon listing of the same laptop. Then this is where things start to get interesting in texts:

- Basically according to the reciepts the laptop was purchased for 530 at the time approximately 1.5 months ago. This price was due to reward zone discounts, credits, etc. I beleive the laptop would have come out around 600 with tax without any of this.

Adrienne sees this, as she tried to return the laptop at Best Buy and gets upset with me because my purchase price wasnt the same as the retail price on Amazon.

"I am not concered how much you paid [for another laptop], what I am upset about is that you told me you got this for more than you did..."

I think to myself:

NO WHERE DID I SAY ANYTHING ABOUT BUYING IT FOR THE AMAZON PRICE. EVEN IF I GOT THE LAPTOP FOR FREE ITS NOBODYS BUSINESS HOW MUCH I PAID. I SIMPLY LISTED IT FOR 200 LESS THAN MARKET VALUE. I COULD HAVE WON THE LAPTOP AS A PRICE, DO YOU EXPECT IT FOR FREE? ALSO, IF I WAS OUT TO SCAM SOMEONE AND MISLEAD WHY WOULD I GIVE YOU ACCESS TO THE ORIGINAL RECIEPT!

So a couple more text messages go by and I feel like because I have met her before and she is Brandons girlfriend that I dont want her feeling this way so I offer:

"Would you be fine with me refunding you 100 dollars? Is that fair? I wasn't trying to cheat you, that laptop still goes for 700"

There you have it, on Saturday I ask her basically if she wants to purchase a Core-i3 Laptop with 500GB of HD space, 4GB of RAM, and an LED Screen for 400 bucks. And she responds back with:


" How about just letting me know who else was interested in it when you were selling it"

She basically throws my offer back in my face and says Fuck You.


During this entire encounter I explain this to Brandon, and no Im not going to throw him under the bus here but I explained to him entirely above what I just said. Even though I do not owe her jack shit, on Sunday I felt like in order to appease things that I would just offer her the 100 dollars back as even she said she would just call it even.


I was all fine with doing this until I heard that she basically decided to "get back at me" by deleting all my data that I had asked her to retain. This to me was completely unacceptable as that data was not entirely mine but also the intellectual property of two other magazine companies for services rendered and paid in full to me. Now Im stuck in the horrible position to try and explain this even though the original buyer entered into a verbal agreement with me to provide the data.


Now here is the kicker. She went around telling people that I mislead her, scammed her, and even lied. I find this posting on craigslist

http://atlanta.craigslist.org/nat/sys/1836859977.html

* I have this screen shotted as well just in case it gets deleted later*

She lists the laptop as she bought it for 700 from Best Buy and is selling the laptop for 500 with full knowledge that she thinks shes going to get another 100 back as well. Sorry you werent able to profit off of me.

I have also been informed that the laptop did sell on CL and my data is no longer retreiveable.


So there you have it kids, other than the bullshit going on Facebook and her having Brandon delete myself and a few others as friends on Facebook, thats all she wrote.


Have an awesome day.

[Nemesis]

Reserved for screenshots and images.

[stillaneon]

That's the laptop she told me about?

No wonder she "didn't want to go into it"

[quickdodge®]

What time , last Wednesday, did you decide to sell this laptop? Later, QD.

[Bajjani]

Gay.

[MachNU]

I dont want to involve myself in either side since I am friends with above mentioned parties...but I am one of those people who have bought a computer from Jorje. He drove out of his way from Villa Rica to Norcross to deliver it to me because I had to work and the computer was as described. :goodjob:

[stillaneon]

I dont want to involve myself in either side since I am friends with above mentioned parties...but I am one of those people who have bought a computer from Jorje. He drove out of his way from Villa Rica to Norcross to deliver it to me because I had to work and the computer was as described. :goodjob:

Well if I recall, the specs were posted. I even looked at them. Not that I need a special graphics card (as I don't do online gaming), but, he definitely wasn't trying to hide anything.

[MachNU]

Well if I recall, the specs were posted. I even looked at them. Not that I need a special graphics card (as I don't do online gaming), but, he definitely wasn't trying to hide anything.

Yeah my current desktop is his old gaming computer which is what I use it for and even after two years its still running strong.

I just hope everything get's settled with all parties, shitty to see a friendship go out the window like this!

[changaroo]

spot reserved for epic lols.

[stillaneon]

spot reserved for epic lols.

Look what changaroo decided to hop in here...

[HalfBaked]

I heard this all went down because she found all your child porn you had saved on the computer...

[Echonova]

Tibby pants perma-banned her from here because me and her were getting to close...:ninja:




But for real... both you guys are to blame

A.) Buyer should have known what you were buying before you bought it
B.) Seller should have removed any and all data he wanted to keep. End of story
C.) If a friendship gets ruined over $500 then ya'll weren't friends to begin with. This is why I have no friends, I would rather have the $500...
D.) George is indeed Asian
E.) This is why I'm always leery about selling to people I know.
F.) BKGen should not be put in the middle of this, not his deal and besides, he's going to be in favor of the one he has to sleep next too...
G.) Hope this can be resolved, but it is apparently it has already passed that point.
H.) I'm leaving again. I only came back because I got a phone call about the server thread. Goodbye.
I.) Server crashes while trying to post this the first time. Shocking.
J.) I'm moving out of the picture George...:(

[Nemesis]

Tibby pants perma-banned her from here because me and her were getting to close...:ninja:




But for real... both you guys are to blame

A.) Buyer should have known what you were buying before you bought it
B.) Seller should have removed any and all data he wanted to keep. End of story
C.) If a friendship gets ruined over $500 then ya'll weren't friends to begin with. This is why I have no friends, I would rather have the $500...
D.) George is indeed Asian
E.) This is why I'm always leery about selling to people I know.
F.) BKGen should not be put in the middle of this, not his deal and besides, he's going to be in favor of the one he has to sleep next too...
G.) Hope this can be resolved, but it is apparently it has already passed that point.
H.) I'm leaving again. I only came back because I got a phone call about the server thread. Goodbye.
I.) Server crashes while trying to post this the first time. Shocking.
J.) I'm moving out of the picture George...:(

B. I agree partly, but it was also a common ground agreement that she would provide the rest to me, and verbal agreements are legally binding.

C. Agreed.

D. Only half.

E. Will be now thats for sure.

F. They arent married!


It is already resolved, she sold the laptop on Craigslist. It was resolved when I had provided the laptop to her.

[quickdodge®]

What time , last Wednesday, did you decide to sell this laptop?

I missed the response to this query.


B. I agree partly, but it was also a common ground agreement that she would provide the rest to me, and verbal agreements are legally binding.

Echo is 100% correct on this. Yes you agreed to what you agreed to, but you should have made sure it was already off and not relied on someone else. Especially if the material was as important as you say.

As I see it, that was your only err. The rest is squarely on her. And this has nothing to do with my thoughts of the girl. Later, QD.

[Kourt]

That's the laptop she told me about?

No wonder she "didn't want to go into it"


hmm, I saw that on your facebook, I thought that was weird also!

[Nemesis]

I missed the response to this query.

.

I dont have an exact answer. Like I said, the original post is gone. And to not throw in "loose facts" Id simply just say, I dont remember when I officially posted it up for sale.

[stillaneon]

I dont have an exact answer. Like I said, the original post is gone. And to not throw in "loose facts" Id simply just say, I dont remember when I officially posted it up for sale.

It was in the afternoon. I was at work when I saw it. Because you even told me you were selling it before you posted it.

[Nemesis]

I
As I see it, that was your only err. The rest is squarely on her. And this has nothing to do with my thoughts of the girl. Later, QD.


Yep, I entrusted a bit too much too soon. It shows how vindictive she is to deliberately destroy data that she knew and even agreed in text message to deliver upon.

[quickdodge®]

I dont have an exact answer. Like I said, the original post is gone. And to not throw in "loose facts" Id simply just say, I dont remember when I officially posted it up for sale.

Well the time of day makes all the difference in the world Had it been earlier in the day, she may have just had her espresso and been more aware of her reading comprehension and been more awake to grasp what she was intent on buying. But with the comment that she misunderstood something... that would lead me to believe that it was posted (or she saw it) towards the end of the day, after a long day of doing whatever she does. Factor in being tired, restless and maybe hungry, she could have had several distractions keeping her from fully grasping what the item for sale actually included. Minds seem to travel as she gets more tired and knowing she was after a certain piece in a computer she may have convinced herself that she saw what she was after and jumped on it.

There. Time is important. And this post is complete and utter bullshit. Later, QD.

[Z0_o6]

Death match. Should settle things nicely.

[changaroo]

im not on here much anymore but i would love to give my $0.02 on this whole situation. for people that know me, i stay away from drama for the most part, but im going to chime in because this whole situation is just rediculous

on a more serious note, george is one of the most level headed people i know. when he told me about this whole situation i was pretty pissed, but didnt say anything out of respect for brandon who is a mutual friend of ours. i'm not going to egg on the whole laptop situation, but for the non tech saavy people here... i3 laptop with a 500gb hd / 4GB of ram is a helluva deal at this time, and for $400, you got to be a box of rocks not to accept the refund.

what really pisses me off, is this 12 y/o childlsh bullshit adrienne is pulling. this isnt the first time its happened either. she lives for drama and attention, end of story. granted, im not expecting to get along with everyone i meet, and thats fine, we can go our own seperate ways as we are all old enough... id hope.

HAHA. tricked ya like a girl wearing 8 pushup bras! shes making brandon, choose between her or who he can be friends with. really? whats next? take away his nap time and recess? brandons a big boy, he can decide for himself who he wants to be friends with. its not our fault you are so freakin insecure about who he interacts with. take notes, the world doesnt revolve around you. i dont even know how brandon puts up with your immaturity.

i can go on for days, but im at work and i have things to do so i will leave you guys with a haiku i wrote in light of this whole situation...

"george sold a laptop
the deal went through smoothly, SIIKE
that beech is crazy"

PS: ITS MY BERFDAY SO I SAY WAT I WANT :)

[stillaneon]

Well the time of day makes all the difference in the world Had it been earlier in the day, she may have just had her espresso and been more aware of her reading comprehension and been more awake to grasp what she was intent on buying. But with the comment that she misunderstood something... that would lead me to believe that it was posted (or she saw it) towards the end of the day, after a long day of doing whatever she does. Factor in being tired, restless and maybe hungry, she could have had several distractions keeping her from fully grasping what the item for sale actually included. Minds seem to travel as she gets more tired and knowing she was after a certain piece in a computer she may have convinced herself that she saw what she was after and jumped on it.

There. Time is important. And this post is complete and utter bullshit. Later, QD.

I blamed George for the whole thing too. Not because of the lack of caffeine; But for not catching up on illiteracy rates in Georgia and covering those bases too.

[roxie911]

Yes...let's bring personal shit and put it on IA because we wanna get everyone involved. You left numerous comments for me about how I should "drop it because drama isn't worth it" over chang's little hissy fit, and you're gonna go ahead and bring personal matters like this onto IA?? The one place where shit gets blown out of proportion?? I expected better from you, honestly.

With that being said, I'm not gonna assume anything because this is only one side of the story. I'm gonna have to agree with Echo on a couple things though. SOMETHING CAN ALWAYS GO WRONG. NEVER trust ANYONE with stuff that you say is not yours or that you NEED. You should've known that from the start. If it was THAT important to you, then you should've made her wait. Simple as that. I also agree that Adrienne should've known what she was buying because money can always ruin friendships.

I also don't understand why you went to Brandon and complained? This is not his deal or purchase. You put him in a very awkward position. Kind of a low blow, if you ask me.

But like I said...I don't know both sides. From what I read, you trusted her with stuff you shouldn't have, and she trusted you with a price that she thought would be right and wasn't.

[Nemesis]

Yes...let's bring personal shit and put it on IA because we wanna get everyone involved. You left numerous comments for me about how I should "drop it because drama isn't worth it" over chang's little hissy fit, and you're gonna go ahead and bring personal matters like this onto IA?? The one place where shit gets blown out of proportion?? I expected better from you, honestly.

With that being said, I'm not gonna assume anything because this is only one side of the story. I'm gonna have to agree with Echo on a couple things though. SOMETHING CAN ALWAYS GO WRONG. NEVER trust ANYONE with stuff that you say is not yours or that you NEED. You should've known that from the start. If it was THAT important to you, then you should've made her wait. Simple as that. I also agree that Adrienne should've known what she was buying because money can always ruin friendships.

I also don't understand why you went to Brandon and complained? This is not his deal or purchase. You put him in a very awkward position. Kind of a low blow, if you ask me.

But like I said...I don't know both sides. From what I read, you trusted her with stuff you shouldn't have, and she trusted you with a price that she thought would be right and wasn't.



Yeah, listen here because Ill only say this once:

1. I bring it up here because Im getting texts and calls from people asking wtf happened, and how shes going around telling people I ripped her off. And considering I go to meets and I do actively sell things, I do want to keep my reputation clean.


You have no clue what you are talking about and the only reason you felt the need to put your two cents in is because you are "facebook friends" with her. Guess what , so was I and until I saw her true colors and a glimpse into how crazy of a nut job she is, I felt the same way back when the whole BTStone went down, now I truly see how crazy she is.

[changaroo]

Yes...let's bring personal shit and put it on IA because we wanna get everyone involved. You left numerous comments for me about how I should "drop it because drama isn't worth it" over chang's little hissy fit, and you're gonna go ahead and bring personal matters like this onto IA?? The one place where shit gets blown out of proportion?? I expected better from you, honestly.

With that being said, I'm not gonna assume anything because this is only one side of the story.

so since you dont know both sides, remind me why you are posting?

[Nemesis]

I also don't understand why you went to Brandon and complained? This is not his deal or purchase. You put him in a very awkward position. Kind of a low blow, if you ask me..

Once again you have no fucking clue what you are talking about. Brandon contacted me first to try and work something out with her, thats when i got him involved and explained to him the situation.


Stay out of a situation you really have no idea what you are talking about.

[Nemesis]

Double post

[Catnip]

Yeah, listen here because Ill only say this once:

1. I bring it up here because Im getting texts and calls from people asking wtf happened, and how shes going around telling people I ripped her off. And considering I go to meets and I do actively sell things, I do want to keep my reputation clean.


You have no clue what you are talking about and the only reason you felt the need to put your two cents in is because you are "facebook friends" with her. Guess what , so was I and until I saw her true colors and a glimpse into how crazy of a nut job she is, I felt the same way back when the whole BTStone went down, now I truly see how crazy she is.

I <3 you.

[Catnip]

Can I delete Roxie's posts since they're so stupid?

[Nemesis]

By the way, everyone that I had to explain myself to because I felt the need knows that I was reluctant to post this on IA because of Brandon only and the last thing he needs is to be dealing with her bitching about another thing.

But when it comes to someone defaming my character public-ally for the world to see, then it becomes an issue.

[stillaneon]

Can I delete Roxie's posts since they're so stupid?

The real question:

Can you get some kind of fucking award for the best idea this year?

[roxie911]

Yeah, listen here because Ill only say this once:

1. I bring it up here because Im getting texts and calls from people asking wtf happened, and how shes going around telling people I ripped her off. And considering I go to meets and I do actively sell things, I do want to keep my reputation clean.


You have no clue what you are talking about and the only reason you felt the need to put your two cents in is because you are "facebook friends" with her. Guess what , so was I and until I saw her true colors and a glimpse into how crazy of a nut job she is, I felt the same way back when the whole BTStone went down, now I truly see how crazy she is.

Oh....good idea, George. Be the better person and don't post shi--.....oh wait.

You call her crazy because she's going around telling people things about you and calling you names, but wait...you're doing that too?? Hmmm...if that's crazy on her part, then I guess you two are one in the same! :D Congrats on making yourself look like an immature drama whore!!

On a serious note, everyone gets negative feedback all the time. They don't whine about it. Sure, you have a reputation. Sure, you might be falsely accused. Wtf do you think other salesmen and companies do when they get falsely accused or get negative feedback?? Go and whine about it? Doubtful. It's part of sales. You win some and you lose some. If you can't handle the negative side of it, then you shouldn't be doing it.

[Nemesis]

Oh....good idea, George. Be the better person and don't post shi--.....oh wait.

You call her crazy because she's going around telling people things about you and calling you names, but wait...you're doing that too?? Hmmm...if that's crazy on her part, then I guess you two are one in the same! :D Congrats on making yourself look like an immature drama whore!!

On a serious note, everyone gets negative feedback all the time. They don't whine about it. Sure, you have a reputation. Sure, you might be falsely accused. Wtf do you think other salesmen and companies do when they get falsely accused or get negative feedback?? Go and whine about it? Doubtful. It's part of sales. You win some and you lose some. If you can't handle the negative side of it, then you shouldn't be doing it.

Are you kidding me? This has got to be a joke.

Listen, when you grow up and get involved in the real world, youll realize how serious public defamation of character is (in the legal sense as well). And yes, I personally believe forcing your boyfriend to delete friends off your facebook because you dont agree with them is a little bit crazy. You have no idea what else has been going on.

And I simply can not take your last comment seriously, so I choose not to respond to such an asinine formation of words.


I also will award anyone that can send me a screen snapshot of her calling me a scammer in any form of media.

[roxie911]

Once again George...can't handle feedback?? YOU posted this on IA. YOU wanted people to get involved because you posted it for everyone to see. I'm going by what I read and what YOU said about it. You posted it on a fucking forum. Sorry I'm not your fucking leghumper like everyone else.

[changaroo]

george, i wasnt aware you were a salesman!

shame on you for not letting people just talk trash about you. you silly silly boy.

[Sinfix_15]

Here's my thoughts....

If you had important info on the computer, its on you to remove it before you sell it. That's your fault. You leaving business material on a computer that you sold, is very poor business and again 100% your fault regardless who said or promised to do whatever.

to the buyer, this isnt walmart, if you want a refund dont buy from an individual. You picked the PC up in person, you were obviously satisfied with your purchase seeing as how you chose to pay for the item. If $500 is that important to you, i suggest you do more research before handing it over.

[roxie911]

Are you kidding me? This has got to be a joke.

Listen when you grow up and get involved in the real world, youll realize how serious public defamation of character is. And yes, I personally believe forcing your boyfriend to delete friends off your facebook because you dont agree with them is a little bit crazy. You have no idea what else has been going on.

And I simply can not take your last comment seriously, so I choose not to respond to such an asinine formation of words.

You're right....I don't know what went on. I posted how I felt by what you decided to inform IA on. I'm going by the information that YOU gave me because, you know, you said you wanted to let everyone who was bothering you about know what happened. Is this not what happened then?? Seems lilke you're just whining.

[Nemesis]

Once again George...can't handle feedback?? YOU posted this on IA. YOU wanted people to get involved because you posted it for everyone to see. I'm going by what I read and what YOU said about it. You posted it on a fucking forum. Sorry I'm not your fucking leghumper like everyone else.

Guess what, you read what you want to read, but I dont expect anything less from someone of younger age. Especially one, that hasnt even hit 20.

[quickdodge®]

You call her crazy because she's going around telling people things about you and calling you names, but wait...you're doing that too??

In regards to the part is upsized bold lettering....he has reasoning to spout out. She doesn't.

And it seems like you're really getting involved in something that you said you weren't going to get involved in.

And you talk about drama whores. Later, QD.

[roxie911]

Guess what, you read what you want to read, but I dont expect anything less from someone of younger age. Especially one, that hasnt even hit 20.

OH WOW!! The age card!! :D

Read what I wanted to read? My point was that you both had faults. Some of the same that several other people listed here. Just because I'm friends with her doesn't mean I'm gonna start taking sides. Get real

[changaroo]

You're right....I don't know what went on. I posted how I felt by what you decided to inform IA on. I'm going by the information that YOU gave me because, you know, you said you wanted to let everyone who was bothering you about know what happened. Is this not what happened then?? Seems lilke you're just whining.

jesus-tapdancing-christ. theres a difference between giving your opinion on the matter, and attacking george because you are interwebs friends with adrienne.

you were never involved in this matter to begin with, and speaking of attention drama whores, you keep replying so youre just as bad as anyone else in this thread, myself included.

reading your posts makes me want to go rub 80 grit sandpaper on my balls. pointless would be an understatement.

[roxie911]

In regards to the part is upsized bold lettering....he has reasoning to spout out. She doesn't.

And it seems like you're really getting involved in something that you said you weren't going to get involved in.

And you talk about drama whores. Later, QD.

when did I ever say I wasn't gonna get involved in this??

[swimshark]

:couch:

[quickdodge®]

when did I ever say I wasn't gonna get involved in this??

What is your involvement with this? Why are you strolling in here with that gung-ho attitude like you have something to prove? Later, QD.

[roxie911]

What is your involvement with this? Why are you strolling in here with that gung-ho attitude like you have something to prove? Later, QD.

I'm not proving anything. Just posting my opinion...like you did. What's your involvement??

[Nemesis]

Read what I wanted to read? My point was that you both had faults.


My only faults in this were:

1. I assumed she could read.

2. I didnt retrieve all the data I should have entrusting her with it and to not act like a 19 year old teenager.

[Catnip]

If this wasn't semi entertaining, I'd ban Roxie for acting like a woman.

[Shift_2WIN]

Oh....good idea, George. Be the better person and don't post shi--.....oh wait.

You call her crazy because she's going around telling people things about you and calling you names, but wait...you're doing that too?? Hmmm...if that's crazy on her part, then I guess you two are one in the same! :D Congrats on making yourself look like an immature drama whore!!

On a serious note, everyone gets negative feedback all the time. They don't whine about it. Sure, you have a reputation. Sure, you might be falsely accused. Wtf do you think other salesmen and companies do when they get falsely accused or get negative feedback?? Go and whine about it? Doubtful. It's part of sales. You win some and you lose some. If you can't handle the negative side of it, then you shouldn't be doing it.
Negative feedback and slander are two different things. Negative feedback implies that the seller did something, that caused the deal to not go as smoothly as it could've gone. In this case, its slander not negative feedback b/c the buyer didn't read correctly, or at all, so the title "scammer" she gave the seller is not true. Therefore it is slander, as this affects his future business transactions. The info on the computer is his fault, but everything else is hers. To the buyer if she reads this, next time read more carefully. And as far as companies and salemen "whining about it" yes they do....its called suing for defamation in court.

[roxie911]

My only faults in this were:

1. I assumed she could read.

2. I didnt retrieve all the data I should have entrusting her with it and to not act like a 19 year old teenager.

Very good, george! You shouldn't trust anyone with data that is of any importance because shit can always happen....like I said before.

[changaroo]

What is your involvement with this? Why are you strolling in here with that gung-ho attitude like you have something to prove? Later, QD.


if i was 20, jobless, not going to school, parents bought me a porsche, and naming my pet dog after cars, id start all the drama i could.

oh wait... nvm.

[roxie911]

Negative feedback and slander are two different things. Negative feedback implies that the seller did something, that caused the deal to not go as smoothly as it could've gone. In this case, its slander not negative feedback b/c the buyer didn't read correctly, or at all, therefore the title "scammer" she gave the seller is not true. Therefore it is slander, as this affects his future business. The info on the computer is his fault, but everything else is hers. To the buyer if she reads this, next time read more carefully. And as far as companies and salemen "whining about it" yes they do....its called suing for defamation in court.

hence why I said negative feedback OR false accusations. I understand that it's slander.

[quickdodge®]

I'm not proving anything. Just posting my opinion...like you did. What's your involvement??

Yeah, you're posting your opinion alright. You're doing your usual. Making this all about you. You claimed to not go around making assumptions, yet you've gone right off the deep end and started bombarding Jorge with your incessant bullshit like you have clout somewhere. Making your opinion seen is just making a comment and moving on.

Which brings me to my involvement. I posted a joking comment and then I posted my opinion and moved on. I didn't attack anyone and I didn't keep on and on about it.

Trust me, little one, you can't one-up me. I'm much too smart and blessed with too much common sense for you to keep up. Later, QD.

[roxie911]

if i was 20, jobless, not going to school, parents bought me a porsche, and naming my pet dog after cars, id start all the drama i could.

oh wait... nvm.

I'm 19, I have a job, and my dog is named after Portia from Julius Caesar (I didn't even name her, my mom did). And the Porsche isn't mine.

[-EnVus-]

My opinion is this is what happens when women leave the Kitchen....DRAMA


Thats all.

[Shift_2WIN]

hence why I said negative feedback OR false accusations. I understand that it's slander.

Nowhere in the post I quoted did you say that, plz show me? Post number plz?

[Catnip]

I just wanted to mention that IA is running an E-train on Roxie at this time.

[swimshark]

I'm 19, I have a job, and my dog is named after Portia from Julius Caesar (I didn't even name her, my mom did). And the Porsche isn't mine.

^^ troof ^^

[roxie911]

Yeah, you're posting your opinion alright. You're doing your usual. Making this all about you. You claimed to not go around making assumptions, yet you've gone right off the deep end and started bombarding Jorge with your incessant bullshit like you have clout somewhere. Making your opinion seen is just making a comment and moving on.

Which brings me to my involvement. I posted a joking comment and then I posted my opinion and moved on. I didn't attack anyone and I didn't keep on and on about it.

Trust me, little one, you can't one-up me. I'm much too smart and blessed with too much common sense for you to keep up. Later, QD.

Wasn't trying to one-up you, hun. It's my opinion. I have nothing against George. My first post was not an attack in any way. Their replies, however, were attacks. At that point, yes, I altered how I was gonna respond because a friendly discussion/arguement was out of the question at that point.

[roxie911]

Sure, you might be falsely accused. Wtf do you think other salesmen and companies do when they get falsely accused or get negative feedback??

there you go, Shift_2WIN.

Hope that cleared it up :)

[quickdodge®]

Wasn't trying to one-up you, hun.

Thank you. Although I don't have to defend my title (smartest person on IA) because it defends itself, but I have no problem in engaging in verbal and intellectual warfare. Especially when the opponent is an easy "W."


My first post was not an attack in any way.

Hail, the first line in your initial post was an outright attack.

But if you were really in here just to leave your opinion, why not just let it go after you posted? Instead of involving yourself? Later, QD.

[Shift_2WIN]

there you go, Shift_2WIN.

Hope that cleared it up :)
Thanks. And you say this as if its no big deal, and this is common business practice? Its not. "Sure, you might be falsely accused. Wtf do you think other salesmen and companies do when they get falsely accused or get negative feedback??" They sue! If he loses a sale b/c of this, he should sue her b/c she is either illiterate or too lazy to read or do research, and then blames the seller for her mistake. Its not right. So what is the point of your argument? You can't win, she is wrong from all angles (except info inside of computer). Don't defend someone who is wrong, simply b/c you are cool w/ them, you will only encourage them to do this again. Wrong is wrong.

[oneSLOWex]

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[Catnip]

http://www.gigglechick.com/erin/blog/choo_choo.jpg

[quickdodge®]

Later, QD.

[Prime.]

George, let me know if you need any proof from Best Buy. I can get your exact receipt showing the regular price as well as any RZ certs or anything used on the transaction. I can also get you a print out with the average selling price across all the stores in the country. Let me know.

[oneSLOWex]

http://420.thrashbarg.net/lol_que.jpg

[Catnip]

Thanks. And you say this as if this is common business practice? Its not. "Sure, you might be falsely accused. Wtf do you think other salesmen and companies do when they get falsely accused or get negative feedback??" They sue! If he loses a sale b/c of this, he should sue her b/c she is either illiterate or too lazy to read or do research, and then blames the seller for her mistake. Its not right. So what is the point of your argument? You can't win, she is wrong from all angles (except info inside of computer). Don't defend someone who is wrong, simply b/c you are cool w/ them, you will only encourage them to do this again. Wrong is wrong.

I mean, they did have a verbal agreement for her to return the property (this time being photos and what not), whether it's a bad move on his part or not, it's legally binding.

[Shift_2WIN]

I mean, they did have a verbal agreement for her to return the property (this time being photos and what not), whether it's a bad move on his part or not, it's legally binding.

Its only legally binding if it can be proved. Since they were alone when the transaction took place, it has no merit. There has to have been at least one witness and that witness has to agree that an agreement was made, or all she has to say is "I made no such agreement", and his arguement as far as that goes is shot to hell b/c he has no proof. He should have gotten it in writing.

[Nemesis]

George, let me know if you need any proof from Best Buy. I can get your exact receipt showing the regular price as well as any RZ certs or anything used on the transaction. I can also get you a print out with the average selling price across all the stores in the country. Let me know.

I appreciate it man, but the current level of laptop they sell is a lower end version of the one I had, and its selling for 499.00. They dont have the Core-i3 version of it anymore.

But honestly its a moot point now, considering shes sold the laptop already to someone on CL.

[Nemesis]

Its only legally binding if it can be proved. Since they were alone when the transaction took place, it has no merit..

I have the text message of her saying she would do it.

[Catnip]

Its only legally binding if it can be proved. Since they were alone when the transaction took place, it has no merit. There has to have been at least one witness, or all she has to say is "I made no such agreement", and his arguement as far as that goes is shot to hell b/c he has no proof. He should have gotten it in writing.

IIRC he said it's in a text.

*ninjas

[Shift_2WIN]

Oh shit, well if the companies come after you, go after her lol, I would

[roxie911]

Thanks. And you say this as if this is common business practice? Its not. "Sure, you might be falsely accused. Wtf do you think other salesmen and companies do when they get falsely accused or get negative feedback??" They sue! If he loses a sale b/c of this, he should sue her b/c she is either illiterate or too lazy to read, and then blames the seller for her mistake. Its not right. So what is the point of your argument? You can't win, she is wrong from all angles (except info inside of computer). Don't defend someone who is wrong, simply b/c you are cool w/ them, you will only encourage them to do this again. Wrong is wrong.

I never said she was right in that sense. I said Adrienne was wrong in that she should've known what she was buying. I said that in my very first post. I think the extreme George took it to and the getting all worked up about her deleting the data on his computer is wrong as well. It was a failure of trust on both of their parts. Both are at fault for different situations in this sale. I've said this already.

[-EnVus-]

Next time slap a big ass AS IS on the sell just encase they can't see straight also.

I would never sell something thats not as is all sales final shit happens, even if New.

[Prime.]

I appreciate it man, but the current level of laptop they sell is a lower end version of the one I had, and its selling for 499.00. They dont have the Core-i3 version of it anymore.


yeah but i can look up your receipt with your RZ info and then search for the SKU of the laptop you bought and see it's historical pricing. I work tonight so just pm me with your RZ phone number if you want.

[Shift_2WIN]

I never said she was right in that sense. I said Adrienne was wrong in that she should've known what she was buying. I said that in my very first post. I think the extreme George took it to and the getting all worked up about her deleting the data on his computer is wrong as well. It was a failure of trust on both of their parts. Both are at fault for different situations in this sale. I've said this already.
But didn't she start it by going around saying he is a scammer, when really she didnt read? So it was she who took it to the extreme, even after he agreed to give her back something. Honestly if someone is making up a lie, which can have an affect on future finances & transactions, why would he just sit back and let it go? Doesn't make sense to me, does it to u?

[Nemesis]

I never said she was right in that sense. I said Adrienne was wrong in that she should've known what she was buying. I said that in my very first post. I think the extreme George took it to and the getting all worked up about her deleting the data on his computer is wrong as well. It was a failure of trust on both of their parts. Both are at fault for different situations in this sale. I've said this already.


Now stop for one second. What if Chad goes to an event in another state, shoots over 2000 photos of the said event , and that data is on that computer. Do you feel hes in the right to get worked up? Knowing she agreed in text and verbally that she would provide the data back? Or what about a paid job that the company has sent a check out for and he is responsible for sending out final finished prints of the event?

[Nemesis]

yeah but i can look up your receipt with your RZ info and then search for the SKU of the laptop you bought and see it's historical pricing. I work tonight so just pm me with your RZ phone number if you want.

Will do man.

[Catnip]

Now stop for one second. What if Chad goes to an event in another state, shoots over 2000 photos of the said event , and that data is on that computer. Do you feel hes in the right to get worked up? Knowing she agreed in text and verbally that she would provide the data back?

+1

[-EnVus-]

I saw she Sold the laptop I wounder what she got out of it ?

[Catnip]

I saw she Sold the laptop I wounder what she got out of it ?


AIDS

[Nemesis]

But didn't she start it by going around saying he is a scammer, when really she didnt read? So it was she who took it to the extreme, even after he agreed to give her back something.

At first she was fine with not being able to get a refund from me. Then she flipped her lid, when she realized she couldnt return the laptop at Best Buy for 700 bucks with my old reciept (which only was intended to provide proof of purchase and warranty issuance). She saw I had paid less for the laptop than the going rate . And like Ive said before, I truthfully had no intention on "making" money off a "friend". Even if I got the laptop for free, you expect someone to give it away? No, its common sense people. I didnt recall exactly how much I paid for it so I simply did what any normal person would do, hit up amazon or ebay or any other trusted retailer for the best going rate prices for an item.

[roxie911]

Now stop for one second. What if Chad goes to an event in another state, shoots over 2000 photos of the said event , and that data is on that computer. Do you feel hes in the right to get worked up? Knowing she agreed in text and verbally that she would provide the data back? Or what about a paid job that the company has sent a check out for and he is responsible for sending out final finished prints of the event?

There's really no reason to bring Chad into this, George.

Either way, I'm done. Y'all have fun :)

[Nemesis]

There's really no reason to bring Chad into this, George.


LOL Are you kidding me? Im not painting Chad in a negative light, Im simply saying someone that is involved in the profession and how valuable data is.

Seriously, learn to read deeper into things than face value. Critical Thinking is a college class, consider this when/if you enroll.

[UpSideDownDesi]

All misunderstanding aside, but deleting data is straight fucked up. Knowingly that your actions will cause harm to other is childish and immature.

[Catnip]

There's really no reason to bring Chad into this, George.

Either way, I'm done. Y'all have fun :)


3,6,9 damn your fine move it so you can sock it to me one mo time
Get low, Get low
To the window! TO THE WINDOW! To the wall! TO THE WALL!
To the sweat drop down my balls. MY BALLS!
To all these bitches crawl. CRAWL!
To all skeet skeet motherfucker, MOTHERFUCKER! All skeet skeet god damn. GOT DAMN!
To all skeet skeet motherfucker, MOTHERFUCKER! All skeet skeet god damn. GOT DAMN!

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[-EnVus-]

^^ Its 2003 all over again UGH!

[Nemesis]

Swimshark, one more image post, and its 48 hours. Just stop man.

[Bajjani]

Negative feedback and slander are two different things. Negative feedback implies that the seller did something, that caused the deal to not go as smoothly as it could've gone. In this case, its slander not negative feedback b/c the buyer didn't read correctly, or at all, so the title "scammer" she gave the seller is not true. Therefore it is slander, as this affects his future business transactions. The info on the computer is his fault, but everything else is hers. To the buyer if she reads this, next time read more carefully. And as far as companies and salemen "whining about it" yes they do....its called suing for defamation in court.

I understand what you're trying to say, but negative feedback affects a business just as much as slander. And with a prior business transaction it isn't really slander, justified or not. It is a childish opinion maybe, but not slander. Sorry.

Nemesis,
I don't know you or Adrienne or her bf, most the people I know on this site don't post anymore, but in all honesty, from an unbiased standpoint, I think posting and insulting at all are counter productive. I can understand you being pissed that you tried to be 'professional' and kind but the bottom line is you can't please some people, right or wrong. An example of this is when I worked at my dads car shop, some trailor park couple came in insisting that we sold them bad brakes wanting their money back and we said if they are bad let us change them for free blah blah blah but all they wanted was the money back. Some people just would rather be spiteful, and maybe thats not the case here but its a reality. Now, in all honesty, if I wanted to purchase something from you now, I probably wouldn't. God forbid we have a disagreement and it ends up becoming a drama tv series, its not worth it I'll go pay full price.

You may not care about my opinion and I'm not bashing you at all, I think you have every right to be pissed at the situation, but I think posting and then carrying this on for pages and throwing out insults doesn't prove your innocence but makes me question you. Responding to allegations is one thing, insulting someone for accusing you of something is completely different.

If I am dealing with someone who has some form of negative feedback like shes trying to give you, I'd simply be overly cautious, and if there was something I didn't feel right about, walked away there.

Just my .02, hope your future sales go smoother.

[Nemesis]

Now, in all honesty, if I wanted to purchase something from you now, I probably wouldn't.


And in all honesty, if you think that I probably wouldnt want you buying anything from me either. I expect buyers to know what they are buying and be educated on the item they want, its not my fault they are ignorant. Since I had no wrong doing in this entire ordeal other than the fact I shouldnt have entrusted a person like her with valuable data.


And sorry, it isnt slander. Since it was a recorded statement its considered libel.

[thegovanator]

Catnip made this even funnier

[OG-Skinny]

damn there is alot of cheer leading going on in this thread...

[Ziptied]

Roxie.....

http://www.randomfunnypicture.com/pictures/1222see-that-get-back-in-kitchen.jpg

[RandomGuy]

not that i give a fuck or this involves me, but i'm bored and i'll post motherfuckerssss:

I work in computer sales,

500 bux would be a fair price for a i3 500gb system...

I think George handled it well, and is justified in making this thread bc seller reputation = $ IRL

twas dumb to give the laptop without backing up data, if it was really worth anything to you, you wouldn't have left it up to a chance that you may not see it again- what if the drive went kaput the next day? or the laptop got stolen?... You risked it, and baaam... your shits gone.... chalk it up to the game.... If you can find who bought it, you can possibly get some data recovery progs to get it... (if it hasn't been too long)

[JITB]

lol didnt see this coming....not really haha

[Nemesis]

Resolved, nothing else to see here

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[quickdodge®]

Lolol.

Later, QD.