Any NA K20 or B18C Hondas want a fun run?

[40th GT]

Just want to see how fast these things are. The Mustang GT in my sig is stock, except for the KNN air filter and an axle back delete. My goal is to lose by 3 car lengths or less (yeah I said it).
Hopefully my preferences aren't too demanding:
Would prefer a 30 roll but wouldn't mind a dig run either.
Street tire vs. street tire
Your NA motor vs. my NA
Must be within 20 miles, otherwise meet me at Commerce.

Sorry if this thread is a waste of space. I'm just looking for excuses to decarbonize my engine.

[-EnVus-]

If you let me drive it the Stang will win everytime...

[40th GT]

If you let me drive it the Stang will win everytime...

Good luck with that. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jiog1IQUoZs&feature=related

[-EnVus-]

Good luck with that. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jiog1IQUoZs&feature=related

You just have to deduct a car length due to weight to power ratio of the 2 cars.

[JDMJAYDC2]

If you let me drive it the Stang will win everytime...

drive your own car and race me :D

[-EnVus-]

drive your own car and race me :D

I can't they don't make tires strong enough to handle my sohc power :(

[Black4DrEK]

How bout, just save your gas.

[BABY J]

I'm in. Dig only. Street tire vs street tire. PM me.

[PhantomGoat]

If i was close i hook ya up with a run!! You shoulnt lose by two cars just sayin. But good luck to you and whoever you race!!

[KevinT707]

V8 .. too fast

[40th GT]

How bout, just save your gas.

Hey buddy. If I wanted to do that I wouldn't have posted this thread.

[-EnVus-]

Hey buddy. If I wanted to do that I wouldn't have posted this thread.

I see you are 20 years old how the fuck you afford a new GT ????

[40th GT]

I'm a vet tech and I live with parents.

[ejohnson88]

Not paying rent does wonders for being able to afford a car note.

[40th GT]

true that. So I decided to just go to Commerce this Friday because of,

http://i877.photobucket.com/albums/ab335/zoron123/Derailed.jpg

[NEMO]

why not call out other v8? i rememeber a thread being posted like a year ago dealing with the same thing

[40th GT]

why not call out other v8? i rememeber a thread being posted like a year ago dealing with the same thing

A thread from me? That was a call out to other cars in general, not just to Hondas.
But yeah, most other V8s are out of my league because they're modded.

[*EFilliated*]

i raced one exactly like urs on thursday and i raped it by like 3 cars. there u go dats ur outcome. no need to waste gas now

[OnURleft]

you should be a good run for a hatch with a b18/header/tune. On average those Gt's are trapping about 99mph, typically they can go 98-102.x depending on the year.

I ran one about 20 different times when my E36 M3 was completely stock except for a cat back and not one car could pull from any speed 30, 40, 50, all the way to 130. That car went 13.9@99 with a 2.0 60 ft

[40th GT]

you should be a good run for a hatch with a b18/header/tune. On average those Gt's are trapping about 99mph, typically they can go 98-102.x depending on the year.

I ran one about 20 different times when my E36 M3 was completely stock except for a cat back and not one car could pull from any speed 30, 40, 50, all the way to 130. That car went 13.9@99 with a 2.0 60 ft
Do you know what kind of B18 it was? Because apparently in NA form, the A and B have no balls. It's the Cs you have to watch for.
But yes, 99mph trap is exactly what my car does, with a 3000' DA.

[PhantomGoat]

Do you know what kind of B18 it was? Because apparently in NA form, the A and B have no balls. It's the Cs you have to watch for.
But yes, 99mph trap is exactly what my car does, with a 3000' DA.

Why would you say that?

[OnURleft]

Do you know what kind of B18 it was? Because apparently in NA form, the A and B have no balls. It's the Cs you have to watch for.
But yes, 99mph trap is exactly what my car does, with a 3000' DA.

No it was a E36 M3 vs a 2005 Gt...

I was referring to a C, the one with balls. I don't think a K in a hatch would be a good race for you, with just a header and a tune those cars are going like 104-108+ depending on the weight

[SKUNK2GUY]

pm me wecan set something up

[40th GT]

Why would you say that?

B18A

The B18A is not considered part of the modern B-series family. This engine shares many characteristics with the B20A/B21 See Honda B20A engine.

* Non-VTEC
* Found in:
o 1986-1989 Accord Aerodeck LXR-S/LX-S (Japan)
o 1986-1989 Accord EXL-S/EX-S (Japan)
o 1986-1989 Vigor MXL-S (Japan)
+ Displacement: 1,834 cc (111.9 cu in)
+ Compression: 9.4:1
+ Bore: 81 mm (3.2 in)
+ Stroke: 89 mm (3.5 in)
+ Dual Keihin Carbs
+ Power: 100 hp (75 kW) @ 6100 rpm & 128 lb·ft (174 N·m) @ 4700 rpm
+ Transmission: A2N5, E2N5

[edit] B18A1

* NON -VTEC
* Found in:
o 1990-1993 Acura Integra usdm "RS/LS/GS" (DA9, DB1)
+ Displacement: 1,834 cc (111.9 cu in)
+ Compression: 9.2:1
+ Bore: 81 mm (3.2 in)
+ Stroke: 89 mm (3.5 in)
+ Rod Length: 137.01 mm (5.394")
+ Rod/Stroke Ratio: 1.54
+ Redline: 6500 rpm
+ Rev Limiter: 7200
+ Programmed fuel injection
+ Power: 90-91 Only: 130 bhp (97 kW) @ 6000 rpm & 121 ft·lbf (164 N·m) @ 5000 rpm
+ Power: 92-93 Only: 140 bhp (100 kW) @ 6300 rpm & 126 ft·lbf (171 N·m) @ 5000 rpm
+ Transmission: 90-91: A1,S1, cable
+ Transmission: 92-93: YS1, cable

[edit] B18B1

* NON-VTEC
* Found in:
o 1994-2001 Acura Integra "RS/LS/GS/SE" (DC4/DB7)
+ Displacement: 1,834 cc (111.9 cu in)
+ Compression: 9.2:1
+ Bore: 81 mm (3.2 in)
+ Stroke: 89 mm (3.5 in)
+ Rod Length: 137.01 mm (5.394")
+ Rod/Stroke Ratio: 1.54
+ Power: 142 hp (106 kW) @ 6300 rpm & 127 ft·lbf (172 N·m) @ 5200 rpm
+ Redline: 7200 rpm
+ Rev Limit: 7200 rpm
+ Transmission: Y80/S80

[edit] B18B4

* NON-VTEC
* Found in:
o 1996-2000 Honda Ballade 180i
+ Displacement: 1,834 cc (111.9 cu in)
+ Compression: 9.2:1
+ Bore: 81 mm (3.2 in)
+ Stroke: 89 mm (3.5 in)
+ Rod Length: 137.01 mm (5.394 in)
+ Rod/Stroke Ratio: 1.54
+ Power: 142 hp
+ Redline: 7200 rpm
# 142 hp (106 kW) @ 7000 rpm & 127 ft·lbf (172 N·m) @ 5200 rpm
+ Transmission: Y80/4254245

Would you say they have any gut? And I did say NA form.

[40th GT]

No it was a E36 M3 vs a 2005 Gt...

I was referring to a C, the one with balls. I don't think a K in a hatch would be a good race for you, with just a header and a tune those cars are going like 104-108+ depending on the weight

Yeah those hatches can get stupid fast.

[japan4racing]

Would you say they have any gut? And I did say NA form.

not at all....but the gsr motor only has about 30 more hp.....in oem n/a form they are all pretty weak. the real advantage to any of them is in the vtec b series motors, not becuase they make slightly more power, but because they rev higher and have oil squirters for the wrist pins (which i guess is directly related to making more power along with higher compression ratios) small displacement motors need to rev high to make power. that being said the gsr or type-r would be the ones with more guts you could say...i prefer the gsr simply because of a more tame compression ratio and its ability to launch my 93 4 door dx nearly into the 11's with 120k miles and zero internal mods.

make no mistake though the ls motor can suprise you.....so watch out

[NEMO]

B18A

The B18A is not considered part of the modern B-series family. This engine shares many characteristics with the B20A/B21 See Honda B20A engine.

* Non-VTEC
* Found in:
o 1986-1989 Accord Aerodeck LXR-S/LX-S (Japan)
o 1986-1989 Accord EXL-S/EX-S (Japan)
o 1986-1989 Vigor MXL-S (Japan)
+ Displacement: 1,834 cc (111.9 cu in)
+ Compression: 9.4:1
+ Bore: 81 mm (3.2 in)
+ Stroke: 89 mm (3.5 in)
+ Dual Keihin Carbs
+ Power: 100 hp (75 kW) @ 6100 rpm & 128 lb·ft (174 N·m) @ 4700 rpm
+ Transmission: A2N5, E2N5

[edit] B18A1

* NON -VTEC
* Found in:
o 1990-1993 Acura Integra usdm "RS/LS/GS" (DA9, DB1)
+ Displacement: 1,834 cc (111.9 cu in)
+ Compression: 9.2:1
+ Bore: 81 mm (3.2 in)
+ Stroke: 89 mm (3.5 in)
+ Rod Length: 137.01 mm (5.394")
+ Rod/Stroke Ratio: 1.54
+ Redline: 6500 rpm
+ Rev Limiter: 7200
+ Programmed fuel injection
+ Power: 90-91 Only: 130 bhp (97 kW) @ 6000 rpm & 121 ft·lbf (164 N·m) @ 5000 rpm
+ Power: 92-93 Only: 140 bhp (100 kW) @ 6300 rpm & 126 ft·lbf (171 N·m) @ 5000 rpm
+ Transmission: 90-91: A1,S1, cable
+ Transmission: 92-93: YS1, cable

[edit] B18B1

* NON-VTEC
* Found in:
o 1994-2001 Acura Integra "RS/LS/GS/SE" (DC4/DB7)
+ Displacement: 1,834 cc (111.9 cu in)
+ Compression: 9.2:1
+ Bore: 81 mm (3.2 in)
+ Stroke: 89 mm (3.5 in)
+ Rod Length: 137.01 mm (5.394")
+ Rod/Stroke Ratio: 1.54
+ Power: 142 hp (106 kW) @ 6300 rpm & 127 ft·lbf (172 N·m) @ 5200 rpm
+ Redline: 7200 rpm
+ Rev Limit: 7200 rpm
+ Transmission: Y80/S80

[edit] B18B4

* NON-VTEC
* Found in:
o 1996-2000 Honda Ballade 180i
+ Displacement: 1,834 cc (111.9 cu in)
+ Compression: 9.2:1
+ Bore: 81 mm (3.2 in)
+ Stroke: 89 mm (3.5 in)
+ Rod Length: 137.01 mm (5.394 in)
+ Rod/Stroke Ratio: 1.54
+ Power: 142 hp
+ Redline: 7200 rpm
# 142 hp (106 kW) @ 7000 rpm & 127 ft·lbf (172 N·m) @ 5200 rpm
+ Transmission: Y80/4254245

Would you say they have any gut? And I did say NA form.Just because you say NA doesnt mean it only has stock HP. You need to be calling out STOCK hondas if a little over 140hp is all your looking for. do some more research before you make yourself look stupid

[ejohnson88]

K series full weight coupe here and I trap 103.

[PhantomGoat]

Just because you say NA doesnt mean it only has stock HP. You need to be calling out STOCK hondas if a little over 140hp is all your looking for. do some more research before you make yourself look stupid

Yeah if you are wanting stock hp motors you are deffinetly wasting your time. If ya ever come to Reynolds for like muscle car evolution or anything like that, i run ya in my B thats got some V. just to c how i would fair against a newer GT mustang it be fun!!

[PhantomGoat]

K series full weight coupe here and I trap 103.

I trap around 100 mph also

[Z0_o6]

i got a K20 for him. I should be trapping around 96-97 :)

[ejohnson88]

^ in the eighth.

[40th GT]

Just because you say NA doesnt mean it only has stock HP. You need to be calling out STOCK hondas if a little over 140hp is all your looking for. do some more research before you make yourself look stupid

Point taken. Thanks for looking out.

Yeah if you are wanting stock hp motors you are deffinetly wasting your time. If ya ever come to Reynolds for like muscle car evolution or anything like that, i run ya in my B thats got some V. just to c how i would fair against a newer GT mustang it be fun!!

I'd be down but Reynolds is too far. How about the Friday night drags at AMS on the 16th?

I trap around 100 mph also
Same here, if you're talking about 1/4 mile lol.

[T.S.]

I dont have a honda but I do have a 1.8liter that I would be more then happy to show you my taillights. =)

[40th GT]

I dont have a honda but I do have a 1.8liter that I would be more then happy to show you my taillights. =)

Yeah, boost is great isn't it.

[Z0_o6]

yes, yes it is.

[DeeAOne]

I'm N/A. ;)

[jadakid88]

x2 because this b18a will walk the shit out of you... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssLDVprMDFM ill run you after i get my car back from the paint shop
Just because you say NA doesnt mean it only has stock HP. You need to be calling out STOCK hondas if a little over 140hp is all your looking for. do some more research before you make yourself look stupid

[*EFilliated*]

i say u run me when u get ur car back, i dont want u 2 waste ur gas on a V8. LMK



x2 because this b18a will walk the shit out of you... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssLDVprMDFM ill run you after i get my car back from the paint shop

[jadakid88]

will do

[SPOOLIN]

not at all....but the gsr motor only has about 30 more hp.....in oem n/a form they are all pretty weak. the real advantage to any of them is in the vtec b series motors, not becuase they make slightly more power, but because they rev higher and have oil squirters for the wrist pins (which i guess is directly related to making more power along with higher compression ratios) small displacement motors need to rev high to make power. that being said the gsr or type-r would be the ones with more guts you could say...i prefer the gsr simply because of a more tame compression ratio and its ability to launch my 93 4 door dx nearly into the 11's with 120k miles and zero internal mods.

make no mistake though the ls motor can suprise you.....so watch out


WHAT THE FUCK. Show me where a 4 door civic with a STOCK internal GSR B18c1 with 170 crank hp will run low 12's, because low 12's is "nearly into the 11's".

[Z0_o6]

he had a stock gsr the way i have a stock k20 ;)

[Motivation]

I'd be down but Reynolds is too far. How about the Friday night drags at AMS on the 16th?



I'll run ya. But, I don't have a B or a K. But, it's all motor... lmk if ya make it down there.



WHAT THE FUCK. Show me where a 4 door civic with a STOCK internal GSR B18c1 with 170 crank hp will run low 12's, because low 12's is "nearly into the 11's".

Show me where he said it only had 170 crank hp....

[ejohnson88]

yeah, I am assuming his stock internal B, is on boost.

[Vteckidd]

My 200whp 2200lb crx ran 13.4 with slicks it might have run 12.99-13.1 with better tires

Low 12s isn't happening in a 4 door civic and a stock internal motor sorry

[Catnip]

My 200whp 2200lb crx ran 13.4 with slicks it might have run 12.99-13.1 with better tires

Low 12s isn't happening in a 4 door civic and a stock internal motor sorry

Big turbo + good tune + bad ass driver + slicks

[PhantomGoat]

Big turbo + good tune + bad ass driver + slicks

what this guy said. He never said it was all motor....just sayin. The man had some fast honda stuff back in the day.

[Vteckidd]

the name of the thread is NA HONDAs who gives a shit about a turbo car.

[Catnip]

the name of the thread is NA HONDAs who gives a shit about a turbo car.



It's the 3rd page on an IA thread, it's not on topic, lol.

[Bacon]

It's the 3rd page on an IA thread, it's not on topic, lol.

lol

[ejohnson88]

Quoted for the mother fucking truth.

[Z0_o6]

It's the 3rd page on an IA thread, it's not on topic, lol.

YES. lolol

[deliriouzmc]

i have a stock 4dr sedan si =) if its just for fun of course

[kct01]

I have a EG hatch! Run for fun? I stay in Lawrenceville! I'll run stangs, Birds, Camros, swaps, DSM! Of course mines is swapped. anything street legal, let me know. dont waste my time if your in a v8-have welded on muffles, cheap modded items and think your fast please!

[40th GT]

i say u run me when u get ur car back, i dont want u 2 waste ur gas on a V8. LMK
If/when you do, go on the THIRD honk not the second.:goodjob:

[40th GT]

x2 because this b18a will walk the shit out of you... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssLDVprMDFM ill run you after i get my car back from the paint shop

I'll take that as a call out. PM me whenever you're ready. I prefer dig runs but if you must go from a roll, I'll accommodate a 30 kick. If your B can "walk the shit out of me" it really shouldn't matter what the starting speed is right?

[jadakid88]

no problem
I'll take that as a call out. PM me whenever you're ready. I prefer dig runs but if you must go from a roll, I'll accommodate a 30 kick. If your B can "walk the shit out of me" it really shouldn't matter what the starting speed is right?

[*EFilliated*]

yo bring that slow ass stang out, we can do it for watever u want, and if u feel safer at the track, i can wax that ass there to. its funny that u didnt say anything to me at the track friday but u on the internet talking shit saying i left on the second honk

[40th GT]

I saw your car there but didn't see you. And of course you'd wax my ass at the track b/c you have tires.
The track is too far of a trip just to run you so meet at me Sonic this thursday and try to be near your car. I'll find you.

[thundercatz1]

interesting

[sleeper1979]

If you let me drive it the Stang will win everytime...
lol thats funny

[jdmshytyo87]

i raced one exactly like urs on thursday and i raped it by like 3 cars. there u go dats ur outcome. no need to waste gas now

3 cars lol thats not (raped) guy.....lol write what you said but put (got him like 8/9 or maybe ten cars lol) 3 cars is like the drivers falt!!!! damn street racers LMFAO!!