Vented my block a few weeks back (E46 M3 destruction inside)

[tnomud]

Fresh motor with under 2K (IIRC) grenades at Tally during an open track day. As a result, 12 quarts of oil caught fire as it left the motor. Lost brakes, got out safely. It appears that the last 2 cyliners have gone through the block. Fire travelled back into the motor, so it will have to be pulled to know 100% (pics will follow as this happens). FOund parts of internals on drivers side of engine bay while cleaning it up for the autopsy. Hole is on passenger side behind headers. More pics will follow


Before:

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during:

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aftermath:

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[tnomud]

coming apart for the new and improved motor...

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[Da_unknown]

dammm

[EJ_Allmota]

DAMN homie.. looks like you got it put out before it did any serious damage.. Wish i was that luck with mine..

[AnthonyF]

Good luck with the build man! I might have some questions for you in the future. Looking at getting an E46 Vert in white.

-Ant.

[Evil Goat]

looking forward to updates....lsx or no?

[NJSC]

So what are your plans?

[tnomud]

putting a bigger badder S54 in it...........building one better than the shitheads at BMW can. Most of the parts should be here early next week. Longblock Friday.

[Evil Goat]

awesome, good luck with it man

[DoriDori]

Sorry Man that sucks. Hope the next set up is even better

[2turbo4u]

sorry to here about this, good thing you saved the rest of the car. I know your gonna build it better and check everything twice.

[csmiths]

damn, that really sucks. But good luck on the new build

[Mr. Clean]

this car is incredibly sexy. kudos for getting it back on the road.

oh a side note...


HOT DAMN I HOPE MY CAR DOESN'T CATCH FIRE!

[Elbow]

Ouch.

You're not really running Azenis on that are you?

[tnomud]

Ouch.

You're not really running Azenis on that are you?


sure am.......... the new versions they work great and I can run them on the street.

[Elbow]

Yeah I've used them, they're good for the money but there are a lot better tires out there.

Is this the car you were talking about doing enduros with?

[jdm_crx_man]

an ls1 would be nice...gl with your re-build

[tnomud]

Yeah I've used them, they're good for the money but there are a lot better tires out there.

Is this the car you were talking about doing enduros with?


I have yet to have any issues with them. Yeah, not quite as grippy as Toyo's, but I can overcome that.


I am running the Texas Mile and Maxton in it this summe/fall...........

[UpSideDownDesi]

HPF....:ninja:. GL with the build man, one of the nicer M3's in town, and good to see being put to duty as well.

[4eyedbox]

I hate that you had to experience this on such a fresh engine. Is the cause of this catastrophe known?

On a side note... If the new long block comes with another oil filter housing please contact me as my turbo engine is in desperate need of an oil cooler.

[Drummerboy]

12 quarts of oil? that seems like a lot!

[tnomud]

I hate that you had to experience this on such a fresh engine. Is the cause of this catastrophe known?

On a side note... If the new long block comes with another oil filter housing please contact me as my turbo engine is in desperate need of an oil cooler.

It sure does...... in the name of "passing it on", I'll give you the one off this motor and the oil cooler if you want to have it flushed out...........

[tnomud]

12 quarts of oil? that seems like a lot!

It has a HUGE oil cooler behind the bumper and lots of large lines..........

[Elbow]

I have yet to have any issues with them. Yeah, not quite as grippy as Toyo's, but I can overcome that.


I am running the Texas Mile and Maxton in it this summe/fall...........

I guess, they just don't hold grip very long on hot days.

Oh, I thought you meant like real enduro enduros like road racing.

[tnomud]

I guess, they just don't hold grip very long on hot days.

Oh, I thought you meant like real enduro enduros like road racing.

I have a few sets of the Falkens in the garage, they all did great at Tally and it was in the 90's. No, I race Enduros on bikes. I used to in cars, havent had time to lately.

[Logan]

putting a bigger badder S54 in it...........building one better than the shitheads at BMW can.

:lmfao:

[SandM]

well, with a little destruction comes new ecxiting things. gl with the new build. very good looking car.

[matthewAPM]

dang, I think id feel more sorry for you if you weren't such a dick at FD. GL

[Mr Egg Rollllll]

Wow man, these pics make me hurt :(

Is the build going on at your house?

[tnomud]

dang, I think id feel more sorry for you if you weren't such a dick at FD. GL

You must have the wrong guy............... or caught me while I was conducting business. Most that know me would call it 180 degrees of that.........

[tnomud]

Wow man, these pics make me hurt :(

Is the build going on at your house?

Yep, new motor here tomorrrow, most of the aftermarket parts should be here this week

[BLK JDM]

What caused the carnage in the old "new" motor?

[Elbow]

I have a few sets of the Falkens in the garage, they all did great at Tally and it was in the 90's. No, I race Enduros on bikes. I used to in cars, havent had time to lately.

Cool, what class/car?

[tnomud]

What caused the carnage in the old "new" motor?

its hard to pinpoint 100% just yet, last 2 cylinders are completely destroyed. I am leaning towards rod bearing then threw rods, or main bearing/crank failure then crankwalk.

[tnomud]

Cool, what class/car?

Ran ITS for 3-4 years in a 92 SE-R, Ran ITS for 2 years in a 92 GTI 16V, 3 years in ITA in a 89 GTI 16V, Ran a 500HP AWD Archer Talon in a few different classes for a few summers, just for kicks, never made more than 3 or 4 races. Had a few EG swapped cars for NASA too. I still have the 93 CX with a B18, but I took down some fencing/stumps at Waterford Hills in it and messed up a rocker and LCA. Oh, had a few 13B 1G RX7's too, looked at another yesterday for kicks.

[OnURleft]

The only truly weak link on an S54 is the rod bearings. They just go on some of them and I suspect yours went hard. Get a set of aftermarket forged bearings and your set for enduro's, but i'm sure you've already done this.

[MeFryRice]

The only truly weak link on an S54 is the rod bearings. They just go on some of them and I suspect yours went hard. Get a set of aftermarket forged bearings and your set for enduro's, but i'm sure you've already done this.

x2 and go with a dry sump setup as well.

[tnomud]

x2 and go with a dry sump setup as well.

I don't have EVO-STEVO mad money.....:crazy:

[MeFryRice]

I don't have EVO-STEVO mad money.....:crazy:

shiiiiiiiiitttttttttttttttttt.......says the person that just picked up a new toy this week. :crazy:

[tnomud]

The only truly weak link on an S54 is the rod bearings. They just go on some of them and I suspect yours went hard. Get a set of aftermarket forged bearings and your set for enduro's, but i'm sure you've already done this.

I picked up Coated Rod and Mains. I also grabbed some ARP head/main/Rod bolts. Stronger Rods should be here tomorrow. I am going to poach the cams and TB's from the old motor. Going with a baffled pan. I have an OE pump being modded up in CHarlotte for more flow. (guy who does Toyota's NASCAR water and oil pumps). I got a much larger oil cooler and 2 Derale fans for it. I hope this works, if not, it will be an expensive learning experience.


shiiiiiiiiitttttttttttttttttt.......says the person that just picked up a new toy this week. :crazy:

Please, it's the wifes ride. I am not allowed to touch it (the car)

[tnomud]

parts are here...

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[tnomud]

and here we have the fun stuff

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[ilovemyhonda.]

Dang your car is so sexy. Glad to see you are re-building it..

[e30pwr]

putting a bigger badder S54 in it...........building one better than the shitheads at BMW can. Most of the parts should be here early next week. Longblock Friday.

no HPF??? :( lol, :goodjob: for s54

[tnomud]

no HPF..... look at the damage I did without it :)

[e30pwr]

no HPF..... look at the damage I did without it :)

I must say I'm impressed, I'll call you when its time to kill my m20

[tnomud]

I must say I'm impressed, I'll call you when its time to kill my m20


I am to please. I have seen dozens of "failures", but never one this bad. The connecting rod from #5 is jammed on the flywheel, the piston in the pan and the fenderwell. You can put your arm in the drivers side, and out the passenger side. Thats 8K RPM for ya.....

[OnURleft]

I picked up Coated Rod and Mains. I also grabbed some ARP head/main/Rod bolts. Stronger Rods should be here tomorrow. I am going to poach the cams and TB's from the old motor. Going with a baffled pan. I have an OE pump being modded up in CHarlotte for more flow. (guy who does Toyota's NASCAR water and oil pumps). I got a much larger oil cooler and 2 Derale fans for it. I hope this works, if not, it will be an expensive learning experience.



Please, it's the wifes ride. I am not allowed to touch it (the car)


Sounds like it's going to be perfect to me except what radiator are you running? I am running a bone stock S54 right now alpha-n with headers, but in an E36 chassis so I am crossing my fingers because it's a much lighter car.

Heat plays a huge roll if the motor isn't built for 25+ minute long sessions in stock formation. Some people assume you can drive these flat out, and honestly you can for about 15 minutes and then oil and water temps get really really really unsafe. There's a huge misconception with people that you can drive factory stock cars flat out for long duration, and there are some you can, but add go-fast engine parts, crank the timing up and drive it like Hans Stuck for 30 minutes and your bound to self destruct something whether it be the stock cooling parts or the bottom end. It's shame the rod bearings are such a weak link...
Your typical D.E driver can drive it as fast as he wants, but once your skill level gets to the point where a professional driver matches your lap times ( I assume you are there) the amount of heat your generating in these cars is just simply dangerous with stock parts.....
On any given weekend at Road Atlanta after about 15 minutes I will start short shifting 7000rpm-7300rpm to let the car cool on an S54 powered car in relatively stock-ish form.

[tnomud]

Right now the car has a stock radiator and had a huge oil cooler. AC system is removed, so no condensors or fans other than the visco fan. I am going to get a big radiator this weekend and a bigger oil cooler. I havent nailed one down yet, but it will probably be a Fluidyne. Water temps were never an issue in this car, but oil temps always were.

In defense of the car, we had done about 20 blistering-screaming-WFO laps in 100 degree weather, after about 20 85% pace laps. According to my transponder, we were turning some VERY respectable times.

[tnomud]

Right now the car has a stock radiator and had a huge oil cooler. AC system is removed, so no condensors or fans other than the visco fan. I am going to get a big radiator this weekend and a bigger oil cooler. I havent nailed one down yet, but it will probably be a Fluidyne. Water temps were never an issue in this car, but oil temps always were.

In defense of the car, we had done about 20 blistering-screaming-WFO laps in 100 degree weather, after about 20 85% pace laps. According to my transponder, we were turning some VERY respectable times.