2001 trans am vs 2010 camero

[georgiasmurf]

:lmfao:so alittle story for all you out there was coming down the road today.stoped at a red light listeing to my music then pulls up a red 2010 camero the guy and his girl odviously looked liked hard asses they pull up talk to each other for a second then look over at me and say"bet that piis of shit cnt beat us" so well i took it personal i said "go on green and we will see who has the piece of shit so long story short i get him by atleast 8 cars then slow down and tell they guy what a waste of 25K he just spent on a boat lol great day:lmfao:

[-EnVus-]

ws6 is much faster then the camaro's

[SlowEG9]

Nice. Bet he felt like a complete tool after that.

[georgiasmurf]

thanks yea i love my little stock baby lol

[ct9a gsr]

I was on the edge of my seat for this one.

[georgiasmurf]

well the thing was the girlfriend was hot as shit i mean, i should have bet money if he won and i get her if i won lol

[georgiasmurf]

ive raced a couple of times and ive only lossed to one car so im pretty happy with it being stock for now

[LokiSays]

Lol

[HypnoToad]

if your stock then he must have been the worst driver ever.

or nvm,just noticed you didnt say it was a V8 car.

and its camaro,not camero.

[-S Double C-]

that was me and i want a damn rematch!

[The Creeper]

Feel proud beating up on a v6 camaro? lol

[DeeAOne]

arent they like sub 15 second cars? lol

[Dietcoke]

The v6s run around 14 flat at 100 or so. V8s will dip into the mid-high 12s with a decent launch. They're pig heavy and very tall geared, but the LS3 is a monster and responds incredibly to mods.

[georgiasmurf]

its just alittle ls1 not much but it does the job^

[Turbodude06]

Yea they are just little 305HP V6 lol..... Good run... Still a waste of money like he said....

[georgiasmurf]

yea i mean with the time and money you can make anything fast but if u want luxury then hell go with an expensive car

[Dwisforme05]

is that one from your school tyler? isnt her car red?

[georgiasmurf]

no that girl goes somewhere else this was some older guy looked buff but her car is a burgandy

[AnthonyF]

ws6 > new camaro

anything > new camaro

-Ant.

[Dietcoke]

New camaro = LS3

LS3 > Any other production motor in any car under $65k


It's a shame they're so heavy and come with those huge wheels stock. 17" DRs and skinnies literally save 100 pounds from the car and net 4-5 tenths at the strip. So sad.

[HypnoToad]

when did WS6s become the meca of all fbodies,i mean no offense to OP. Just something i've noticed lately,i mean really you make maybe 10-15whp more than a Z28 and have higher insurance.

[Dietcoke]

01-02 WS6 had favorable gear ratios available (3.73 rear option) and decent factory ram air CAI and exhaust. 01-02 was also the best year for the ls1, with the move favorable cam specs and head flow numbers. They were also, however, the heaviest of all the 4th gen 4bodies fully optioned. IMO they're the best looking of all the 4th gens, and the anniversary TA is especially nice in blue and white.

[HypnoToad]

01-02 WS6 had favorable gear ratios available (3.73 rear option) and decent factory ram air CAI and exhaust. 01-02 was also the best year for the ls1, with the move favorable cam specs and head flow numbers. They were also, however, the heaviest of all the 4th gen 4bodies fully optioned. IMO they're the best looking of all the 4th gens, and the anniversary TA is especially nice in blue and white.

Yea,I know they got the little bolt on factory stuff.But you put the same style bolt ons a Z28 I bet it easily outruns the WS6,yea the 01-02 also got the LS6 intakes,which helps.

But I just dont see them as others do I guess.

[Dietcoke]

None of the f-bodies were significantly faster then any of the rest of them in the ls1 days. A stripper z28 or trans-am would have been the fastest.

[HypnoToad]

None of the f-bodies were significantly faster then any of the rest of them in the ls1 days. A stripper z28 or trans-am would have been the fastest.

yeah I agree with you there,I think the GTO got the best LS1 if Im not mistaken.

[Dietcoke]

No. The first year GTO had a slightly more aggressive cam grind and a better intake/exhaust/manifolds then the f-bodies. The corvette actually had the most aggressive cam (borderline insignificant difference) and the best manifolds of all the ls1 cars.

[HypnoToad]

No. The first year GTO had a slightly more aggressive cam grind and a better intake/exhaust/manifolds then the f-bodies. The corvette actually had the most aggressive cam (borderline insignificant difference) and the best manifolds of all the ls1 cars.

o,ok got ya.

I dont know awhole lot bout 4th gens,im a 3rd gen guy.

but o,well sorry to get this thread off topic from the T/A beating a V6 camaro.

[Dietcoke]

Good point.
Forum: THE KILLS FORUM
"12 seconds or faster club"

Dear op: :goodjob:(we need a gtfo smilie. post failure)

[AnthonyF]

New camaro = LS3

LS3 > Any other production motor in any car under $65k
.

GEN II Viper > POS Camaro

-Ant.

[Dietcoke]

GEN II Viper > POS Camaro

-Ant.

Apples to apples. New hardware vs 7-8 year old hardware. Obv you could buy a gen 2 viper and beat the camaro... but it isn't because the 450bhp 650 pound behemoth V10 is a superior piece of hardware to the LS3, the viper is simply a vastly superior platform. The 1997 GTS in silver with blue stripes is one of my favorite cars EVER, but comparing a 10 year old GT to a modern 4 seater muscle car is kind of an irrelevant comparison. The LS3 is a far superior motor then what was put in the Gen II viper, but thats what 14 years of research get you. Again, I was only stating the engine is a gem, the camaro as a package leaves a lot to be desired.

[AnthonyF]

Apples to apples. New hardware vs 7-8 year old hardware. Obv you could buy a gen 2 viper and beat the camaro... but it isn't because the 450bhp 650 pound behemoth V10 is a superior piece of hardware to the LS3, the viper is simply a vastly superior platform. The 1997 GTS in silver with blue stripes is one of my favorite cars EVER, but comparing a 10 year old GT to a modern 4 seater muscle car is kind of an irrelevant comparison. The LS3 is a far superior motor then what was put in the Gen II viper, but thats what 14 years of research get you. Again, I was only stating the engine is a gem, the camaro as a package leaves a lot to be desired.

LOLOl the viper engine is "vastly superior"? It's a 8.0L Pushrod engine. How is it superior? It is a 450hp/450-500tq engine. And they can be found for around 30K now.

I'm not the one to compare, you said LS3 > ANY 65K and under car. Wellllll a TEN year old out dated car is well under that and no where near the camaro's technology.

I am not in a pissing contest with you b/c your argument was pretty decent. You're not a fan boy, but you did contradict yourself a wee bit. But I do agree, the LS3 or LS line is a sick platform. A very well thought out engine and that has an immense amount of potential.

I'm a mopar boy. :) Looking for a SRT-8 Jeep right now.

-Ant.

[Dwisforme05]

i dont like the new camaro's. i was really dissapointed when i raced one at steele. i thought i was going to get my butt whooped. NOPE.

[blake06gto]

i like the new camaro's too.. thats why i got one.. lol. if your ws6 is stock.. ill run ya stock vs stock. =)

[Dwisforme05]

uh oh tyler gettin called out!


and he has flowmasters, watch it! lol

[georgiasmurf]

yea my flowmasters with my magnaflow tips might scare you away not gonna lie but sure will race let me kno one day and we can take it to the track i dnt feel like passing a cop and getting my licens taken witch with my luck probley will happen lmoa

[georgiasmurf]

Apples to apples. New hardware vs 7-8 year old hardware. Obv you could buy a gen 2 viper and beat the camaro... but it isn't because the 450bhp 650 pound behemoth V10 is a superior piece of hardware to the LS3, the viper is simply a vastly superior platform. The 1997 GTS in silver with blue stripes is one of my favorite cars EVER, but comparing a 10 year old GT to a modern 4 seater muscle car is kind of an irrelevant comparison. The LS3 is a far superior motor then what was put in the Gen II viper, but thats what 14 years of research get you. Again, I was only stating the engine is a gem, the camaro as a package leaves a lot to be desired.

how did you guys get on the topic of a viper im jw lol

[ct9a gsr]

... we can take it to the track i dnt feel like passing a cop and getting my licens taken witch with my luck probley will happen lmoa


... i said "go on green and we will see who has the piece of shit so long story short i get him by atleast 8 cars then slow down and tell they guy what a waste of 25K he just spent on a boat lol great day:lmfao:


No problem racing a V6... oh the irony. :D

[Dwisforme05]

i have a v6 he doesnt want to race....again...lol

[Dietcoke]

No, the viper engine is not vastly superior. Re-read what I wrote, I think you took it out of context. The LS3 puts down 475 to the tires with a cam and headers which is rather impressive, seeing as thats a rough 100-125 rwhp increase for roughly $1250, and it remains reliable and streetable. When I said any 65k under, I meant any new car 65k and under. The only motor I can think of that would have a chance is the Turbo 335 motor, which isn't even a fair comparison because it's FI (and still not as powerful).



LOLOl the viper engine is "vastly superior"? It's a 8.0L Pushrod engine. How is it superior? It is a 450hp/450-500tq engine. And they can be found for around 30K now.

I'm not the one to compare, you said LS3 > ANY 65K and under car. Wellllll a TEN year old out dated car is well under that and no where near the camaro's technology.

I am not in a pissing contest with you b/c your argument was pretty decent. You're not a fan boy, but you did contradict yourself a wee bit. But I do agree, the LS3 or LS line is a sick platform. A very well thought out engine and that has an immense amount of potential.

I'm a mopar boy. :) Looking for a SRT-8 Jeep right now.

-Ant.

[georgiasmurf]

i have a v6 he doesnt want to race....again...lol

hell no im not racing you agin not till i put somthing in my dam car hell cam's nos wen i get all that i might have a better chance

[Dietcoke]

hell no im not racing you agin not till i put somthing in my dam car hell cam's nos wen i get all that i might have a better chance

I can't neg rep you twice in one thread, unfortunately, but what the fuck is 'nos' and when did they put more then one cam in an OHV pushrod V8?

[Dwisforme05]

all u need is a cam and a gear.

[Dwisforme05]

I can't neg rep you twice in one thread, unfortunately, but what the fuck is 'nos' and when did they put more then one cam in an OHV pushrod V8?


what he meant to say is "Cam knows". my name is cameron

[Dietcoke]

what he meant to say is "Cam knows". my name is cameron

Well no punctuation, and the cognitive and spelling ability of a first grader doesn't really lean to being well-understood.

[georgiasmurf]

scence when does it matter to u how i spell anything i mean i didnt know we was in lit class

[Dwisforme05]

well god dam let me try to be correct god lol i mean scence when does it matter to u how i spell anything

tyler stop.

[georgiasmurf]

well im srry cam i just dnt see the point lol

[georgiasmurf]

all u need is a cam and a gear.

and when i get a job, ill get what i need i just dont know how much it will coast

[Dwisforme05]

talk to kyle. he can tell you eveything u need to know about that damn car. he just put that cam in his.

[Patterson]

i'll still spank both of you :eek:

[Slomaro Z28]

I will put my little 4 cyl. up against the almighty WS6.

Times like this make me wish I kept my LT1, it would have walked a stock/mild LS1.

[stillaneon]

I will put my little 4 cyl. up against the almighty WS6.

Times like this make me wish I kept my LT1, it would have walked a stock/mild LS1.

I'm with this guy

[Slomaro Z28]

I'm with this guy

I'll even do it from a dig......

[georgiasmurf]

give me a couple of mounths and we can do w.e race you feel like

[georgiasmurf]

talk to kyle. he can tell you eveything u need to know about that damn car. he just put that cam in his.
i will but its just the getting my dad to let me put it in

[Dwisforme05]

i will but its just the getting my dad to let me put it in

you just made a huge mistake there buddy...

[Dwisforme05]

i'll still spank both of you :eek:

dont make me get out the 650s on you!!!!! ill spray it too!

[HypnoToad]

you just made a huge mistake there buddy...

lol

[Slomaro Z28]

i will but its just the getting my dad to let me put it in

Just lube it up and slide it in, don't force it, just work it slow until it's in. BTW you can't use too much lube.





^^The cam that is.....^^









The cam will give you some power, but what you really need is to save for an AI Head/Cam combo. Get the combo after you have long tube headers, "very free" exhaust, intake manifold, lid, bigger injectors and a good fuel pump. Then get tuned and you'll be set:goodjob:

http://advancedinduction.com/AiHome.htm

[Dwisforme05]

lsx motors with heads and a cam are nasty cars. they love the giggle gas too.

[Slomaro Z28]

Lets set something up for May. Track is fine by me.

[Dwisforme05]

i want to come play too, if i remember right i think me and you are in the same ballpark. or near it

[Slomaro Z28]

i want to come play too, if i remember right i think me and you are in the same ballpark. or near it

Yeah, should be. I'll be on street tires, which will hurt me though....

[Dwisforme05]

we can run street tire for street tire, it will be fun. all for shits and giggles anywho

[blake06gto]

im down for may.

[ct9a gsr]

i will but its just the getting my dad to let me put it in

You need daddy's permission to mod your own car? ... ... or are you under 18 driving daddy's car and racing around in it? :D

[David88vert]

im down for may.

My money will go on Blake's Camaro over the T/A.

[georgiasmurf]

You need daddy's permission to mod your own car? ... ... or are you under 18 driving daddy's car and racing around in it? :D
no its my car he gave me the title and everything its in my name he just paid for it

[georgiasmurf]

hell what time in may

[georgiasmurf]

Lets set something up for May. Track is fine by me.
you know no matter what anyone says about honda's ill give it to everybody who has one im jelous somtimes cuz they get great gas and with the right amount of money they will fly

[Dwisforme05]

no its my car he gave me the title and everything its in my name he just paid for it

mistake number 2

[Me86Rob]

odvious?

[ct9a gsr]

no its my car he gave me the title and everything its in my name he just paid for it

Sooo... isn't it ironic that you're talking trash about someone spending $25k on a car... when you were GIVEN a free car by daddy?

[Dietcoke]

Sooo... isn't it ironic that you're talking trash about someone spending $25k on a car... when you were GIVEN a free car by daddy?

We can't all be astronauts.

[georgiasmurf]

hell not my fault that he wanted to give me the car i had money to buy it but he wouldent let me

[georgiasmurf]

and cam he's mistake number 3
i had 15,000 in my bank account to buy w.e i wanted to get for my 1st car i went to go get up one day to go buy a 2008 bullit mustang and i walk out side and there's the t/a so hell im not complaning daddy bought me a car and honestly i dont give a shit what most of you think bout my car its mine its how i want it and im fuckin happy with it

[Dwisforme05]

and cam he's mistake number 3
i had 15,000 in my bank account to buy w.e i wanted to get for my 1st car i went to go get up one day to go buy a 2008 bullit mustang and i walk out side and there's the t/a so hell im not complaning daddy bought me a car and honestly i dont give a shit what most of you think bout my car its mine its how i want it and im fuckin happy with it
dude calm the heck down. u dont need to explain shit like this on the damn internet. cool it.

[georgiasmurf]

well im srry you know ppl are intitled to there opinion just becuz they have it dnt mean they need to abuse it lol i mean this thread i posted was just alittle story and it has gotten way off topic

[Dwisforme05]

well im srry you know ppl are intitled to there opinion just becuz they have it dnt mean they need to abuse it lol i mean this thread i posted was just alittle story and it has gotten way off topic

u have so much to learn about this site dude.

[T.S.]

You guys were talking about a car under 65k that could compete, I say the Audi RS4 420hp awd v8. =)

[blake06gto]

I thought rs4 new ran around the 80 mark? But I will agree with its badassness lol. I love the Rs4

[T.S.]

The convertibles do but you can get an rs4 for right at 65k. Dont know that I would pay that much for that car, would rather have an 2003 RS6 instead I think. Which is the 4.2l with twin turbo's. =) And you can pick those up for about 30-40k right now. But they were in the 80's new.

[georgiasmurf]

yeah there a great car i would love to have one in the future

[ct9a gsr]

hell not my fault that he wanted to give me the car i had money to buy it but he wouldent let me

You've completely missed my point... 100%. It's not the fact that daddy gave you a car to race around in... it's the fact that you dare talk shit about how much money someone else spent on their car after the fact that you were given a car by daddy for free. I'm not sure if you can't put 2 + 2 together or simply don't know what irony means...

BTW, trying to make up bank account numbers and such won't impress anyone here. :D

[Slomaro Z28]

You've completely missed my point... 100%. It's not the fact that daddy gave you a car to race around in... it's the fact that you dare talk shit about how much money someone else spent on their car after the fact that you were given a car by daddy for free. I'm not sure if you can't put 2 + 2 together or simply don't know what irony means...

BTW, trying to make up bank account numbers and such won't impress anyone here. :D

What he is saying.....is we could give 2 shits if you were given the car or not (he isn't giving you shit for getting a free car), but you should keep your thoughts to yourself as to how someone else spends THEIR money.

[Slomaro Z28]

Lets go for May 28th @ Commerce.

[georgiasmurf]

well dam im srry i miss understood him i was just saying an opinon so im srry

[Slomaro Z28]

well dam im srry i miss understood him i was just saying an opinon so im srry

Don't worry, you'll learn fast here.

[onebadgt]

stock ws6 and havnt lost a race yet? maybe you should stop racing v6s then lol

[blake06gto]

Lets go for May 28th @ Commerce.

i cant guarantee ill still be stock by then... we'll see though.

[georgiasmurf]

and by the way guys im not ragging on camaro's hell we have two of them ourselfs and i love them

[Slomaro Z28]

i cant guarantee ill still be stock by then... we'll see though.

That's fine, I am expecting 13's on street tires and low boost......we'll see. I'm sure I have plenty enough for the WS6 though and probably your SS from a roll (:gay:)

[blake06gto]

That's fine, I am expecting 13's on street tires and low boost......we'll see. I'm sure I have plenty enough for the WS6 though and probably your SS from a roll (:gay:)

:ninja:

[T.S.]

That's fine, I am expecting 13's on street tires and low boost......we'll see. I'm sure I have plenty enough for the WS6 though and probably your SS from a roll (:gay:)

Depends what he does to it.. LOL those motors respond retarded well to mods.. =) best of luck either way though!

[blake06gto]

Cai headers exhaust and cam is what I'm gunning for. Avg power with the mods is 450-470whp from what I've seen.

[Slomaro Z28]

I was referring to the SS being stock, when I said I might take it from a roll.

[REV.olution]

This is funny. pissing contest over street racing. I like the Commerce idea, I may be down.

[DieselNuts]

Cai headers exhaust and cam is what I'm gunning for. Avg power with the mods is 450-470whp from what I've seen.

My cousin's '10 SS made 403hp/410tq with JUST American Racing Headers, cat delete and tune. With an aggressive enough cam and decked heads, I have no doubts that 500rwhp is attainable. Blake, do you do your work yourself or do you go to a shop?

[DieselNuts]

I went back through this thread and saw some misinformation that needs to be cleared up. I work part time in an LSX based shop so I figured I'd drop some knowledge for a second...


01-02 WS6 had favorable gear ratios available (3.73 rear option) and decent factory ram air CAI and exhaust. 01-02 was also the best year for the ls1, with the move favorable cam specs and head flow numbers. They were also, however, the heaviest of all the 4th gen 4bodies fully optioned. IMO they're the best looking of all the 4th gens, and the anniversary TA is especially nice in blue and white.

There was never a "3:73" option for F-bodies. Autos with a steel driveshaft got 2:73's, Autos with an alum driveshaft and/or "performance axle ratio" option got 3:23's, and ALL 6 speed cars got a 3:42. There is no such thing as a factory installed 3:73 geared car in a regular LS1 powered F-body. You are correct on the 01-02's being the best years, but everything else is incorrect. 01-02 cars actually got a SMALLER cam than the previous years to compensate for intake charge due to lack of the EGR valve. They came with 241 casting cylinder heads, that flow the exact same as all the other years. There's no such thing as "extra flow" from 01-02 cars. Furthermore, ALL 98-02 cars weigh within a certain range of each other. The Trans Ams weigh about 150lbs (on average) more than the Camaro's due to the heavier lumbar seats and pop up headlights, but there's no significance in weight difference from year to year.


yeah I agree with you there,I think the GTO got the best LS1 if Im not mistaken.

LS1 GTO's got the same exact engine that 01-02 F-bodies got. Absolutely nothing is different, except the PCM controlling the engine.


No. The first year GTO had a slightly more aggressive cam grind and a better intake/exhaust/manifolds then the f-bodies. The corvette actually had the most aggressive cam (borderline insignificant difference) and the best manifolds of all the ls1 cars.

No. Again, the cam is not "more aggressive" at all. 01-02 Fbody/04 GTO cams actually have less total duration than previous years, making it less aggressive.

[blake06gto]

My cousin's '10 SS made 403hp/410tq with JUST American Racing Headers, cat delete and tune. With an aggressive enough cam and decked heads, I have no doubts that 500rwhp is attainable. Blake, do you do your work yourself or do you go to a shop?

for just the bolt ons.. i can do myself. Ive never done a cam install but have a few people that are willing to help me out cause i want to be able to do it on my own. tuning... i leave to the shops.

[DieselNuts]

for just the bolt ons.. i can do myself. Ive never done a cam install but have a few people that are willing to help me out cause i want to be able to do it on my own. tuning... i leave to the shops.

That's cool. My tuner know's his shit and only charges $50/hr + the initial credit to purchase the rights to the VIN which is typically $100 depending on the vehicle. His install prices are also about half of what the big shops charge but i'm willing to bet that he pays more attention to detail and does better quality work than said big shops. I would also be willing to bet that his knowledge on the LSX platforms surpasses that of the big shops. His name is Josh and he can be reached on LS1Tech.com (screen name Damian) or I can PM you his phone number. Let me know if you're interested.

[blake06gto]

go ahead and pm his number over. i had already considered him to tune it cause he did a nice job on eric's g8.

[On_Her_Face]

Then On_Her_Face pulls up, rapes both.

Sick race.

[T.S.]

Then On_Her_Face pulls up, rapes both.

Sick race.

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f2/Tpstine/youareahomo.jpg

[Mantooth]

lol.

[DieselNuts]

lol.

The quote in your sig is epic

[On_Her_Face]

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f2/Tpstine/youareahomo.jpg

Lies you know I'm not gay.

[Mantooth]

The quote in your sig is epic:goodjob:

[georgiasmurf]

how is everyone doing

[Mantooth]

how is everyone doingBored, wanting to race something, and wanting people to believe mah killz stories. :cry:

[georgiasmurf]

awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww im srry its ok i belive you lol

[Mantooth]

awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww im srry its ok i belive you lolThx, bby.

P.S., no homo.

[Dietcoke]

I went back through this thread and saw some misinformation that needs to be cleared up. I work part time in an LSX based shop so I figured I'd drop some knowledge for a second...

There was never a "3:73" option for F-bodies. Autos with a steel driveshaft got 2:73's, Autos with an alum driveshaft and/or "performance axle ratio" option got 3:23's, and ALL 6 speed cars got a 3:42. There is no such thing as a factory installed 3:73 geared car in a regular LS1 powered F-body. You are correct on the 01-02's being the best years, but everything else is incorrect. 01-02 cars actually got a SMALLER cam than the previous years to compensate for intake charge due to lack of the EGR valve. They came with 241 casting cylinder heads, that flow the exact same as all the other years. There's no such thing as "extra flow" from 01-02 cars. Furthermore, ALL 98-02 cars weigh within a certain range of each other. The Trans Ams weigh about 150lbs (on average) more than the Camaro's due to the heavier lumbar seats and pop up headlights, but there's no significance in weight difference from year to year.

LS1 GTO's got the same exact engine that 01-02 F-bodies got. Absolutely nothing is different, except the PCM controlling the engine.



No. Again, the cam is not "more aggressive" at all. 01-02 Fbody/04 GTO cams actually have less total duration than previous years, making it less aggressive.


The 241 heads are superior castings.
The 01-02 cam DOES have slightly less duration and lower total lift numbers, but its also ground with a more aggressive ramp profile, has more advance, and significanly less overlap (around four degrees difference).
The overlap change was what allowed for removal of the EGR, not the duration change.

You're right on the gears. Big oversight on my part.

[Spartinja]

The 241 heads are superior castings.In what way???

I have flowed 853's, 806's, and 241's all side by side on a bench. There is about a 3cfm difference between all of them.

[Dietcoke]

The 241s have slight more 'meat' to work with is what my head porter told me (Lloyd Elliot), even though they all have roughly the same numbers out of the box. On a piggy bank budget, they'd be the best heads to have ported if you couldnt snag a decent set of LS6 heads (243)

[Cameron.]

op i got a 6 cylinder i promise you wont beat, but it wouldnt be a fair race. hahah..

[Spartinja]

That being said, I've got a set of 241 castings for sale if anybody needs a set. :D

[Evil Goat]

Well no punctuation, and the cognitive and spelling ability of a first grader doesn't really lean to being well-understood.

i've noticed you're a whiny bitch about everything.....just sayin'


lsx motors with heads and a cam are nasty cars. they love the giggle gas too.

over 100 passes on 150w with this stock bottom end and not one single problem....200 goes in maybe sometime this week since the teg went boom last night

[Donati03gt]

r6 > ws6

[Dietcoke]

i've noticed you're a whiny bitch about everything.....just sayin'



over 100 passes on 150w with this stock bottom end and not one single problem....200 goes in maybe sometime this week since the teg went boom last night

Your tears are delicious. When I get back to the states Julyish lets run em. Should be entertaining. Goat runs high 10s right?

[Evil Goat]

ready when you are

[geoff]

I want some man. what is the deal? noone wants a piece of an lt1?