BAD SELLER ... Southside

[Papa_Smurf]

About 2-3 months ago I purchased an S1 (cable) B series transmission from Southside. At the time of the purchase I was told that the transmission was a B16 transmission and grinded in 3rd gear (typical of a B series transmission because of the synchros).

The transmission sat in my parents garage until about 2 weeks ago because I do not live at home. I go to college 3.5 hours from the Atlanta area. In fact, my pops was the one who picked it up from him because I could not be in town to make the transaction. So when I finally got into town, I opened the transmission case to determine what the problem was with the grinding. I was going to replace the synchros if that's all it needed. Well, I discovered 2 problems.

First, the transmission is an LS transmission, not a B16 transmission like I was told. This is obviously a problem because LS transmissions aren't the desired transmissions for an NA b series because of the long gear ratios. I determined that the was an LS transmission by counting both the gear on the main input shaft and the matching gear on the counter input shaft and divided one number into the other. The numbers I got from this equation was the exact same numbers that a USDM LS transmission is.

Second, the main input shaft bearing was broken. This is the 1st transmission I've opened, and I'm not sure how a transmission wouldn't have any problems (except for a grind in one of the gears) if the main input shaft bearing was broken.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4011/4478069060_4ab3e0c682_b.jpg

I will add, that I was home for 1 day to tear the transmission apart. While I had it tore apart, I replaced the bearing because I was pressed for time, and could not leave a transmission in pieces in my parents garage. Granted, i should have contacted Southside while it was open to address the problem, but like I said, I was pressed for time. And I highly doubted he would have dropped everything he was doing right that second to drive over an hour to see what was wrong, which is why i just fixed the problem and contacted him when I got done driving back to school the next day.


So I addressed Southside about the problem, and at first he was willing to work things out with me, although he was hesitant because it had been so long since the initial transaction, which is completely understandable. However, he claims he purchased the transmission from someone else and was told it was a b16, and did not seem to believe that it was actually an LS transmission. The main issue he addressed was the broken main input shaft bearing, which to me was not the main issue here. The main issue was that I purchased a transmission which I believed (and was told) was a b16 transmission, and it was in fact an LS transmission. He asked how much $$$ it would be to "make the situation right" and I said $50, and he counter offered with $25. Which I refused because to me, thats simply ridiculous. The value of an LS transmission (with a broken main input shaft bearing none the less) and a b16 transmission are completely different, and surely MUCH different than $25.

[Black4DrEK]

Damn that sucks man..

How much did you Pay to begin with?

SOOOOOO are yall gonna work things out???

[90_ACCORD]

damn man sorry to hear that. i hope you get everything worked out

[Papa_Smurf]

Oops, $220. Ment to put that in the original thread.

Well He left it @ offering me $25. I told him the least I would take is $50 or i was gonna make a thread, and he said $25 is all he's offering.

So I made this thread, not sure how things are going to work out. I really just want to inform people about it.

[Vteckidd]

I still dont get how in this day in age people STILL dont check shit out before buying it. WHy do you people believe kids on IA selling parts????

Should have pulled the case right then to make sure IMO, if you cant be home to do it, dont buy it or have someone you TRUST look at it before purchase. I buy a transmission im pulling the case and inspecting everything or paying someone to inspect it for me.

IMO he fucked you for selling an LS tranny to you not a B16 (IF HE KNEW IT WAS AN LS). But you will never be able to prove that. Again its BUYER beware not SELLER beware. If hes a stand up guy he will compensate you somehow. If not, you learned a lesson.

[Black4DrEK]

YUP! folks on IA DO lie about parts...

Both are at fault...IMO

[Papa_Smurf]

I agree with you !00% Vteckidd, the case should have been opened at the time of the purchase. This is my fault for sure. and BUYER beware.


But you're right, he should compensate me somehow. I think what i asked for was reasonable, obviously he did not.

[Vteckidd]

I agree with you !00% Vteckidd, the case should have been opened at the time of the purchase. This is my fault for sure. and BUYER beware.


But you're right, he should compensate me somehow. I think what i asked for was reasonable, obviously he did not.

$220 for a grinding b16 tranny is pretty cheap. IMO the Mainshaft bearing is not his problem (although he may have lied about it just grinding again you cant prove it). The problem is $220 for a B16 transmission is cheap, its incredibly expensive for a grinding LS tranny. I wouldnt have paid more than $100 for a trans like that. So $50 is a very reasonable amount for him to compensate you.

But hes prob like every other broke kid on here and would rather stiff someone and go about his business than just do whats right to make you happy.

I mean seriously what is $50 between IA members when you are obviously in the wrong

[Black4DrEK]

haha $25

[quickdodge®]

Well, as with any other member, his selling rights will be put on hold until this is addressed and/or handled. Later, QD.

[Papa_Smurf]

$220 for a grinding b16 tranny is pretty cheap. IMO the Mainshaft bearing is not his problem (although he may have lied about it just grinding again you cant prove it). The problem is $220 for a B16 transmission is cheap, its incredibly expensive for a grinding LS tranny. I wouldnt have paid more than $100 for a trans like that. So $50 is a very reasonable amount for him to compensate you.

But hes prob like every other broke kid on here and would rather stiff someone and go about his business than just do whats right to make you happy.

I mean seriously what is $50 between IA members when you are obviously in the wrong

Exactly. I thought I was getting a good deal on a b16 transmission, and thought the 3rd and 4th synchros would need to be replaced which is why he was selling it for cheap.

And yes, $220 is expensive for an LS tranny (I've seen them go for $150 recently) AND mine had a bad bearing.


I mean seriously what is $50 between IA members when you are obviously in the wrong

Exactly. I did not think I was asking for much. In fact I should have asked for more, but I was trying to be reasonable.

[Tech5]

Southside is a POS and needs to be banned...I bet he knew about this as he is shady

sorry about this happen to a good member but it happens more then most see

[Scotsman]

damn Alan , i hate to hear this , this is not the first issue i have heard about SS , hope it gets worked out laddie

[Andy_013]

that sucks Alan! can't believe he only offer $25 for all that trouble.

[bigdare23]

Damn dude, sorry this had to happen to ya. Take this as a lesson learned, and always double check everything before you make a "major" purchase (even though I know you wasn't able to do that this time). There's more people on this site out to get over than willing to cut people deals.

As Southside, you didn't want to give dude back $50 for a crappy transmission that wasn't even the type of transmission you said it was?!? Come on dude. In my opinion, that's just low dude. If you gave Alan $25 back, that means you sold him a mess up LS transmission for $195 then. Ask yourself this, would you pay $195 for a messed up LS transmission? Don't even answer that, because I know the answer is HELL NAW. I believe $50 is more than fair since messed up cable LS transmission are basically paper weight to people. Hopefully you man up make things right, if not what goes around comes around.

[Grimm Reeper]

Damn dude, sorry this had to happen to ya. Take this as a lesson learned, and always double check everything before you make a "major" purchase (even though I know you wasn't able to do that this time). There's more people on this site out to get over than willing to cut people deals.


QFTMFT...... but Karma's a beeeaaacchhhh as I heard....



but Alan I do hope that things get worked out bruh

[JDMJAYDC2]

hmmm this does suck for you alan southside has always been a stand up guy with me even tho lots of ppl think he is shady im sure he will help you out and get you the extra 25 bucks. just take this as a blessing that you can build the perfect trans i mean you were going to run a ls 5th anyway right lol.

[AMD_Civic]

WELL YES..!! IM NOT GOING TO LIE BUT SOUTHSIDE DID ME WRONG A WHILE BACK AGO ALSO..!! THATS WHY EVEN WHEN HE HAS NICE PARTS I ALWAYS SAY F**K THAT B**TCH... BOUT TWO YEARS AGO I THINK IT WAS, HE SOLD ME A GEN1 SKUNK2 IM WHICH HE TOLD ME WAS FOR A GSR BUT THEN I FOUND OUT THAT IT WAS FOR A B16 AND TRIED CALLING HIM AND EVERYTHING AND MUTHAF**KER JUST NEVER PICKED UP THE FONE ANYMORE..!! SO F**K HIM PEOPLE..!! JUST LOOKING AT HIM YOU CAN TELL THAT HE JUST A SORRY LIL BITCH TRYING TO FOOL PEOPLE TO MAKE SOME EXTRA MONEY THAT F**KER..!! DIE SLOW BITCH..!!

[Black4DrEK]

^^ Damn thats pretty harsh!

[Patterson]

just go ahead and get the hate out your heart LOL

[Captain-Obvious™]

WELL YES..!! IM NOT GOING TO LIE BUT SOUTHSIDE DID ME WRONG A WHILE BACK AGO ALSO..!! THATS WHY EVEN WHEN HE HAS NICE PARTS I ALWAYS SAY F**K THAT B**TCH... BOUT TWO YEARS AGO I THINK IT WAS, HE SOLD ME A GEN1 SKUNK2 IM WHICH HE TOLD ME WAS FOR A GSR BUT THEN I FOUND OUT THAT IT WAS FOR A B16 AND TRIED CALLING HIM AND EVERYTHING AND MUTHAF**KER JUST NEVER PICKED UP THE FONE ANYMORE..!! SO F**K HIM PEOPLE..!! JUST LOOKING AT HIM YOU CAN TELL THAT HE JUST A SORRY LIL BITCH TRYING TO FOOL PEOPLE TO MAKE SOME EXTRA MONEY THAT F**KER..!! DIE SLOW BITCH..!!

Chill out.

[civicturbo10]

yep it is buyer beware. I picked up a oil pick up tube from a member on here and it was obvious the motor had spun a bearing. Just all kinds of trash inside of it. I only discovered it while cleaning the part as i usually do. The praticles were so far down the tube there was no way i was going to see that garbage in there. I could probably salvage it but why risk a fresh rebuild , just buy it new when the community can't supply a good used part.

[Papa_Smurf]

yep it is buyer beware. I picked up a oil pick up tube from a member on here and it was obvious the motor had spun a bearing. Just all kinds of trash inside of it. I only discovered it while cleaning the part as i usually do. The praticles were so far down the tube there was no way i was going to see that garbage in there. I could probably salvage it but why risk a fresh rebuild , just buy it new when the community can't supply a good used part.

Yeah, but it's kinda hard to tear apart a transmission right in the middle of the parking lot. It is possible, but kind of a pain in the ass. It's just one of those parts thats buyer beware, like buying a used engine from someone.


just buy it new when the community can't supply a good used part.

lol i hope you aren't suggesting that I buy a brand new transmission...:thinking:

[civicturbo10]

I meant my part. It's a $40 part at the dealer so tried to get it used.

[Papa_Smurf]

I meant my part. It's a $40 part at the dealer so tried to get it used.

lol alright, i was about to say thats not really an option haha.

[Me86Rob]

im curious as to what SS has to say...
Sorry to hear you got fucked Alan

[JDMJAYDC2]

i hope he comes in and makes this right he has helped me out alot

[Papa_Smurf]

im curious as to what SS has to say...
Sorry to hear you got fucked Alan

Yup, really curious as to what he's going to say too.

The last thing he said to me before i made the thread was basically that all he's offering is $25 and i'm lucky he was even offering me that because i waited so long.

So we will see.

[southside]

Southside is a POS and needs to be banned...I bet he knew about this as he is shady

sorry about this happen to a good member but it happens more then most seeDude fuck you your a dumbass.Point blank you say everyone is shady but be forreal I still remember you vouched for a h23 that was supposeitly rebuilt and knocked on start up oh you dont remember let me refresh your memory fucking block was painted blue:goodjob:So fuck off.


$220 for a grinding b16 tranny is pretty cheap. IMO the Mainshaft bearing is not his problem (although he may have lied about it just grinding again you cant prove it). The problem is $220 for a B16 transmission is cheap, its incredibly expensive for a grinding LS tranny. I wouldnt have paid more than $100 for a trans like that. So $50 is a very reasonable amount for him to compensate you.

But hes prob like every other broke kid on here and would rather stiff someone and go about his business than just do whats right to make you happy.

I mean seriously what is $50 between IA members when you are obviously in the wrongLike I told him the guy that sold me the tranny told me it was a b16 tranny the guy is a Acura Tech.So when he contacted me I was pretty hesitate about what he was saying seeing I sold him the tranny a while back.Then when he told me the input shaft bearing was bad and it was a ls I told him I didnt know it was a ls tranny because when I received the tranny I was told it was a b16 tranny that had a grind in third gear.:goodjob:


Oops, $220. Ment to put that in the original thread.

Well He left it @ offering me $25. I told him the least I would take is $50 or i was gonna make a thread, and he said $25 is all he's offering.

So I made this thread, not sure how things are going to work out. I really just want to inform people about it.As for you Alan think you forgot to mention you said your dad had a bearing laying around.:thinking:Then after I was threaten with a messege>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>


I'm sorry, but that's a ridiculous counter offer. MAYBE I would take that if this was a b16 transmission, but it's not, it's an LS. I should be asking $75, but $50 is the lowest I will take. Otherwise I'm going to make a thread about this. I'd rather not do that, but if thats the only choice I'm left with, than so be it.

I was trying to work shit out but I said after you tried to threaten me I said fuck it go ahead and the last messege I sent you was >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
.[/QUOTE]Go ahead and make a thread dude I sold you the tranny under the understanding that it worked fine except third. You fixed a problem that I dont even know was wrong with the tranny the person that sold me it told me it was a b16 and only grinded second now you are telling me its a ls and input shaft bearing was broke then you tell me well I had a extra one but I want you to pay me 50$ for it.When you can get it at any local part store for no more than 20$,If that was what you told me was wrong with the transmission.Also you waited a very long time to tell me that anything was wrong with the tranny.:thinking:Then you try to threaten me talkin about you should be asking for 75$ :lmfao:Dude gtfo of here.I offered you half of what you asked me for and also considering you tell me instead of you contacting me when you first found the problem you fixed the problem.With parts you had laying around and now you want me to pay for it?Like I said Ill give you half of your asking because you waited so long and I asked the person I got it from they said they were sure it was a b16.If you found out it was a ls tranny why didnt you hit me up instead of just fixing it.[/QUOTE]


Like I said how could I help you but threaten me isnt going to get you anywhere when I could have just said fuck it he bought the tranny and didnt inspect it.I would have had no problem letting you take it apart.But instead I was meet up by your pops again.Like I said I was trying to help you considering I work at parts store if you would have told me the bearing was bad I could have got you a new one.Instead of you fixing the tranny if I had a problem with a tranny I wouldnt hit someone up after I fixed the problem I would let them know soon as I encountered the problem.Instead of repairing the problem then trying to tell the person who sold me the tranny you need to pay for 50$ for a used input shaft bearing my dad had laying around.Now if you would have told me hey man the tranny isnt a ls and the bearing was bad instead of telling me Hey BLAHBLAH BLAH I fixed the tranny instead of hitting you up when I ran into the problem.So how does that look to me I dont know if its the same tranny if it ever was broken.Or if it is or isnt a b16 tranny Like I said I was trying to help you but the way you came at me in your last messege was allllllll fucking wrong.Why would I screw you over and continue to talk to you after I sold you the tranny we sent messeges back and forth and I figured the tranny was straight seeing you didnt say anything about it when we were talking about your build.Well I wouldnt mind resolving this fuck what other people say people that really deal with me like Jermaine now.Seeing I drove 2 hours to take a jumper harness up north for him after he didnt wanna buy the part until he got someone elses ok on it.:lmfao:Long ass drive Jermaine!THink I lost money on that one but its all good people can think what they wanna think.

[Vteckidd]

PER THE RULES ON IA YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT YOU SELL.

If you CLAIMED it was a B16 tranny, and it is NOT, then YOU lied or were misinformed. The old "well my buddy said it was a B16 tranny" is NOT AN EXCUSE.

Either take responsibility for what you sold, OR DONT SELL ANYTHING AT ALL. You sold him a broken LS tranny, NOT a grinding B16 tranny.

Give him $50, its fair

[Catnip]

Your for sale thread title should've read, "B Series tranny for sale" and followed with, "Unknown condition as well as unknown model. I was told it was a B16 transmission, although I can't confirm. The same with the condition. Buy at own risk"

But I guess you didn't want to scare people off with the truth.

[Vteckidd]

Your for sale thread title should've read, "B Series tranny for sale" and followed with, "Unknown condition as well as unknown model. I was told it was a B16 transmission, although I can't confirm. The same with the condition. Buy at own risk"
But I guess you didn't want to scare people off with the truth.

exactly

you took the mans money , you were wrong, you should compensate him for your falsehood

[GreenDB7]

I don't know either party, I'm new here, lol. But the fair thing would have been to just return the money and take back the tranny OR just give him how much hes asking. Is your reputation really worth $50? Come on dude, man up.

Like the guy above stated, should of posted in the thread, you don't know what kind/condition the tranny is in. Couldn't you have looked on the VIN of the tranny? Did it have one at all? If you looked, it would of said DC4/DB7, if you have any knowledge about hondas, you would know it's a LS...lol.

To sum it up, man up and give him the $50...

[Papa_Smurf]

The reason you didn't hear anything about the tranny while we were talking about my build is because the tranny wasn't in my possession. i told you this numerous times. as soon as i got a chance to come back home, i took apart the tranny.

The issue isn't the broken input shaft bearing. Like you said, i had that part laying around, not a big deal. The deal is that it's an LS tranny and not a b16 tranny like you said. certainly the price difference between an ls tranny and a b16 tranny is AT LEAST $50.

And the reason i sent you that "threatening" message was because i sent you a message and you hadn't responded for a few days, when i could see that you had logged on after you checked that message, so to me it looked like you were avoiding me. sorry if that came off the wrong way, but i still feel like i hardly came across as harsh.


And i've fully explained the situation to you. I only had a day to be home, so while it was apart, i fixed the tranny. I had to put the tranny back together anyways because I couldn't leave a tranny in pieces in my parents yard for numerous months before I could come back again.

[Papa_Smurf]

I don't know either party, I'm new here, lol. But the fair thing would have been to just return the money and take back the tranny OR just give him how much hes asking. Is your reputation really worth $50? Come on dude, man up.

Like the guy above stated, should of posted in the thread, you don't know what kind/condition the tranny is in. Couldn't you have looked on the VIN of the tranny? Did it have one at all? If you looked, it would of said DC4/DB7, if you have any knowledge about hondas, you would know it's a LS...lol.

To sum it up, man up and give him the $50...

It doesn't work like that with cable trannys. both YS1 and S1 transmissions can be either an LS or a B16, the VIN is irrelevant to my knowledge.

[Catnip]

It doesn't work like that with cable trannys. both YS1 and S1 transmissions can be either an LS or a B16, the VIN is irrelevant to my knowledge.


Regardless, when selling a transmission that you're not certain the model, how hard is it to pull the case and count teeth? Unless you're selling it for LS trans price (or lower) because there's that possibility of it being an LS trans, it should be torn apart to find out or not sold at all.

[GreenDB7]

It doesn't work like that with cable trannys. both YS1 and S1 transmissions can be either an LS or a B16, the VIN is irrelevant to my knowledge.

My fault, didn't know if it was a cable or hydro.

[GreenDB7]

Regardless, when selling a transmission that you're not certain the model, how hard is it to pull the case and count teeth? Unless you're selling it for LS trans price (or lower) because there's that possibility of it being an LS trans, it should be torn apart to find out or not sold at all.

I mean, he should know what he is selling, or atleast post that he doesn't know what it is...lol.

[J-ROCK]

dont know either party personally but all i know is buyin a used tranny is like playing russian roulette! you you never know what condititon the trans could be in and most people (NOT EVERYONE) would tear a tranny apart to check it out when buyin it just cause its time consuming and they dont know what they are lookin at! and 50 bucks is a very reasonable price to pay since he did buy a tranny believing it was a b16 for 220 bux and ended up way overpayin for a broke ls trans! so IMO Southside you should just pay the man what he is askin for and make it right! you seem like a cool guy from what ive seen so just do the right thing and make it right it will be well worth it in the future

[southside]

In the I posted thay info and explained the person that sold it to me told me it was a b16 I also stated I couldn't verify it because my car wasn't running so I never put it in.But like I told Alan I didn't know myself after I couldn't find the syncros. I just posted it up I didn know it was a ls tranny myself I was planning on using that tranny but since I couldn't find the syncros.Just sold it.

[Papa_Smurf]

IIRC, you were selling 2 trannys in the original thread. an LS tranny and a b16 tranny. You said that you were told it was a b16 tranny and it grinded 3rd gear, but you never had it on ur car so you couldn't say what condition it was in. You didn't say anything about the posibility of it being an LS tranny.

And when i came to you and told you it was infact an LS tranny, you fought me tooth and nail and did not believe it was an LS tranny. You kept saying you got it from an Acura mechanic or something and that HE would know. Even after i told you I cracked open the case and counted the teeth, you still countered that by saying that you got it from an acura specialist and HE would know since he's een a million tranny's.


Playing the whole "i was told it was something" card is bullshit. Like VtecKidd said:



PER THE RULES ON IA YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT YOU SELL.

If you CLAIMED it was a B16 tranny, and it is NOT, then YOU lied or were misinformed. The old "well my buddy said it was a B16 tranny" is NOT AN EXCUSE.

[quickdodge®]

PER THE RULES ON IA YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT YOU SELL.

If you CLAIMED it was a B16 tranny, and it is NOT, then YOU lied or were misinformed. The old "well my buddy said it was a B16 tranny" is NOT AN EXCUSE.

Either take responsibility for what you sold, OR DONT SELL ANYTHING AT ALL. You sold him a broken LS tranny, NOT a grinding B16 tranny.

Give him $50, its fair

This is where it's at, southside. You are responsible for anything you sell on here. It's up to you to know what you're selling and if you have any doubts, that needs to be posted as well. Later, QD.

[Papa_Smurf]

The original for sale thread:

http://www.importatlanta.com/forums/showthread.php?276401-..-Cable-A1-Ls-and-Jdm-S1-B16-Tranny-..&highlight=

There was 2 trannys for sale, and the thread has the b16 tranny marked as sold because thats what i purchased. Now Southside does make reference to not knowing how bad the grind is because he never ran the tranny, it makes no mention that there's a possibility that it's anything but a b16 tranny.

Like i said, the broken main input shaft bearing isn't the issue, it's the fact that the tranny is an LS and not a b16 as you claimed it is.

[KodyH]

The original for sale thread:

http://www.importatlanta.com/forums/showthread.php?276401-..-Cable-A1-Ls-and-Jdm-S1-B16-Tranny-..&highlight=

There was 2 trannys for sale, and the thread has the b16 tranny marked as sold because thats what i purchased. Now Southside does make reference to not knowing how bad the grind is because he never ran the tranny, it makes no mention that there's a possibility that it's anything but a b16 tranny.

Like i said, the broken main input shaft bearing isn't the issue, it's the fact that the tranny is an LS and not a b16 as you claimed it is.

Wait...they are both LS trannys? And he couldn't see that there wasn't a difference?

[Papa_Smurf]

Wait...they are both LS trannys? And he couldn't see that there wasn't a difference?

no, if you read the thread, he's clearly selling an LS tranny AND a b16 tranny. The b16 tranny was the one i purchased, and is marked as sold in the original thread post.

The thread is called "Cable A1 Ls and Jdm S1 B16 Tranny" . The LS tranny was stamped A1 and the 'b16 tranny' was stamped S1. The tranny I received from him was stamped S1.

[Vteckidd]

S1 is b16 right? but that just means it could have a different case

I thought all integra trannys that were cable were stamped ys1

[Got Milk?]

S1 is b16 right? but that just means it could have a different case

I thought all integra trannys that were cable were stamped ys1

S1 is a JDM b16a tranny.

[Papa_Smurf]

J1/S1
Found in: Integra XSI/RSI (DA6)
Type: Cable
1st: 3.230
2nd: 2.105
3rd: 1.458
4th: 1.00
5th: 0.848
R: 3.000
FD: 4.400

S1/YS1
Found in: 1990-93 USDM Integra LS/RS (DA)
Type:cable
1st: 3.230
2nd: 1.901
3rd: 1.269
4th: 0.966
5th: 0.742
R: 3.000
FD: 4.266

YS1
Found in: Integra 92-93 XSI/RSI (DA6, DA9)
Type: Cable
1st: 3.307
2nd: 2.105
3rd: 1.458
4th: 1.107
5th: 0.880
R: 3.000
FD: 4.400

An S1 and a YS1 can be a b16 or an LS.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_B_engine#B_Series_Transmissions

[MugenCrx]

southside is a stand up guy so make sure next time you know what your buying before u do buy it IMO its your fault

[Got Milk?]

southside is a stand up guy so make sure next time you know what your buying before u do buy it IMO its your fault

How is it his fault? Southside shouldn't be selling something that it is not.

[Papa_Smurf]

southside is a stand up guy so make sure next time you know what your buying before u do buy it IMO its your fault

LOL ur an idiot.

If sum1 sold you a b18c5 motor for $4k and you picked it up and then got home, took it apart and you saw it spun a rod bearing or something, would you still think it's your fault for not tearing apart the motor at the time of the transaction?

Think for 2 seconds before you open ur mouth homie.

[Got Milk?]

If the mother fucker told me that the motor was in good shape, it would be his fault. And who the fuck takes a motor apart at the transaction spot. That is why there are Buyer/Seller feedbacks you know. Before paying 4k for the motor, you should ask all possible questions. And if the seller lies about it and later the motor doesn't runs, he better move out of state.

[Vteckidd]

J1/S1
Found in: Integra XSI/RSI (DA6)
Type: Cable
1st: 3.230
2nd: 2.105
3rd: 1.458
4th: 1.00
5th: 0.848
R: 3.000
FD: 4.400

S1/YS1
Found in: 1990-93 USDM Integra LS/RS (DA)
Type:cable
1st: 3.230
2nd: 1.901
3rd: 1.269
4th: 0.966
5th: 0.742
R: 3.000
FD: 4.266

YS1
Found in: Integra 92-93 XSI/RSI (DA6, DA9)
Type: Cable
1st: 3.307
2nd: 2.105
3rd: 1.458
4th: 1.107
5th: 0.880
R: 3.000
FD: 4.400

An S1 and a YS1 can be a b16 or an LS.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_B_engine#B_Series_Transmissions

yeah i couldnt remember if the S1 was ALSO an LS trans as well so thats why i asked. Seems he fucked you and is using the "my buddy said it was XX" to cover his tracks

[Papa_Smurf]

If the mother fucker told me that the motor was in good shape, it would be his fault. And who the fuck takes a motor apart at the transaction spot. That is why there are Buyer/Seller feedbacks you know. Before paying 4k for the motor, you should ask all possible questions. And if the seller lies about it and later the motor doesn't runs, he better move out of state.

lol thats what i'm saying. i was just trying to give a different example for my situation.


yeah i couldnt remember if the S1 was ALSO an LS trans as well so thats why i asked. Seems he fucked you and is using the "my buddy said it was XX" to cover his tracks

Yup, it appears that way doesn't it.

[Vteckidd]

Hopefully he will do the mature thing and man up. I mean again, its $50, $50 between car enthusiasts. I dont think you are being unreasonable at all, if it was a mistake on his part the right thing to do is to say "sure man my fault i apolagize for the issue" and just give you $50

its not like you are asking for a full refund

[Papa_Smurf]

yeah, thats how i see it too.

oh well, we'll see how he wants to handle it.

[ueyedgr8tness]

^ man you are so nice for only asking for $50 like southside shouldn't even ? it and just pay the $50 because thats not asking much for how u got bentover.also take notes on all these fools taking his side because the next (I got screwed thread will probley be about them)

[STRteg]

Sorry about this happening hope it all works itself out

[bigdare23]

southside is a stand up guy so make sure next time you know what your buying before u do buy it IMO its your fault


You are a fucking idiot.

[bigdare23]

All cable b16 and LS transmissions share the same transmission code. So when you buy a used b16 transmission, you have to cross your fingers and hope that the seller is not trying to pass a LS transmission as a b16 transmission. The only exception to the rules are factory installed b16 LSD transmission. They have LSD stamped on the housing (plus you can tell a LSD transmission by just looking at the input shaft).

[SlowEG9]

selling price minus $50= still profitable

Whats the issue with just giving back $50 to keep a name on a site where you can buy/sell/trade parts?

[Got Milk?]

selling price minus $50= still profitable

Whats the issue with just giving back $50 to keep a name on a site where you can buy/sell/trade parts?

Thats what I'm saying man. Man the fuck up and give him $50. the tranny is probably stolen anyways.

[J-ROCK]

In the I posted thay info and explained the person that sold it to me told me it was a b16 I also stated I couldn't verify it because my car wasn't running so I never put it in.But like I told Alan I didn't know myself after I couldn't find the syncros. I just posted it up I didn know it was a ls tranny myself I was planning on using that tranny but since I couldn't find the syncros.Just sold it.

btu he is not worried about the trans bein broke seein as he has already stated that it wasnt the problem the problem here is that it is a LS transmission and not a b16! if this where my deal the man would already have the 50 bucks and the 20 for the bearing he had to replace

[Catnip]

if this where my deal the man would already have the 50 bucks and the 20 for the bearing he had to replace


That would be the mature thing to do, but you know how some people are...

[J-ROCK]

That would be the mature thing to do, but you know how some people are...

yeah all i know is that i like to keep my rep as a good seller that wont fuck people over and will do everything in my power to make my wrong a right

[Catnip]

I don't know why southside doesn't just go steal another transmission, this time not fail and actually get a B16, and swap the OP for the LS trans.

[J-ROCK]

I don't know why southside doesn't just go steal another transmission, this time not fail and actually get a B16, and swap the OP for the LS trans.

lol i would rep you if i could

[ThEGrNGoBLiN]

LOL ur an idiot.

If sum1 sold you a b18c5 motor for $4k and you picked it up and then got home, took it apart and you saw it spun a rod bearing or something, would you still think it's your fault for not tearing apart the motor at the time of the transaction?

Think for 2 seconds before you open ur mouth homie.



but what if he calls him back MONTHS later saying he found a spun bearing or rod in the motor? then, as a seller, what would u think the buyer has done? not taking sides, just seeing the left out statements

[J-ROCK]

but what if he calls him back MONTHS later saying he found a spun bearing or rod in the motor? then, as a seller, what would u think the buyer has done? not taking sides, just seeing the left out statements

true but he isnt upset about it bein a messed up trans he is upset that is an ls instead of a b16

[Papa_Smurf]

but what if he calls him back MONTHS later saying he found a spun bearing or rod in the motor? then, as a seller, what would u think the buyer has done? not taking sides, just seeing the left out statements

yup, like i said i'm not mad that the bearing is broke, i'm mad that the gearing isn't what he said it is. I dont even have a B series motor in my car, so there's no way I did anything to fuck up that bearing. Like i've said, i dont live at home, i like 3.5 hours away. the tranny was kept at home and the 1st chance i got to come home and inspect it, i did. it just sat and collected dust in my garage. southside knows this because at the time of the transaction i had to get my pops to pick up the tranny cause i was still away at school.

REGARDLESS, the broken bearing IS NOT THE ISSUE. It's the gearing.

[ThEGrNGoBLiN]

yeah, sorry about the problem bro, hopefully this thing gets resolved peacefully bro:goodjob:

[MugenCrx]

LOL ur an idiot.

If sum1 sold you a b18c5 motor for $4k and you picked it up and then got home, took it apart and you saw it spun a rod bearing or something, would you still think it's your fault for not tearing apart the motor at the time of the transaction?

Think for 2 seconds before you open ur mouth homie.

first off im not getting smart but he should have been there to buy it BRO so before i would go out blowing money it would be smart to check it out first IMO

[MugenCrx]

You are a fucking idiot.

dont start with the name calling i see where he coming from but if you knew that that stamp could be an ls or b16 then you should make sure

[southside]

Funny E thugs make me laugh catnip suck my dick lame fuck if he wants a eg ill steal yours how about that pussy lmao or will that hatch last that long before u park it into another guard rail seem like u failed.Alan next v meet I got you hit me up or your dad either one call me day of if can't wait I can see if I can make time to meet up.

[Catnip]

Funny E thugs make me laugh catnip suck my dick lame fuck if he wants a eg ill steal yours how about that pussy lmao or will that hatch last that long before u park it into another guard rail seem like u failed.Alan next v meet I got you hit me up or your dad either one call me day of if can't wait I can see if I can make time to meet up.


LMAO, you're going in my sig. If these tires turned out to be recalled as well, and I did happen to hit another guard rail, it'd still be better looking than that piece of shit you drive, that's compiled of stolen parts.

[BABY J]

Hopefully he will do the mature thing and man up. I mean again, its $50, $50 between car enthusiasts. I dont think you are being unreasonable at all, if it was a mistake on his part the right thing to do is to say "sure man my fault i apolagize for the issue" and just give you $50

its not like you are asking for a full refund

This.

There are people that would say nothing, catch him at a meet, walk up to him, beat the shit out of him, then leave.

50 is a small price to pay. Idk if he is "standup" - you won't catch me "vouching" for many people b/c in my 31 years I've learned that people are whoever they want to be depending on who they are around - when I'm playing bass in gospel quartets I'm a "nice respectable stand-up guy" - when I'm at the club i"ll take 3 bitches home and fuck them in front of their mom at the Thanksgiving dinner table - when I'm on the street you'll never catch me more than 10 feet away from my Gloc - when I'm at the park w/ my daughter I'm some1 totally diff again. See my point? People vouch for their pit bulls - "he won't bite". Well, my answer is "no nigga he won't bite YOU - I'm nobody to that dog and he is nobody to me." SS maybe won't sell some bullshit to his best friend, but to a stranger... I don't put nothing past any1.

I can't say I've had a bad run-in with him, but I know a lot of people have had "interesting" things to say about the squad he rolled with. I've said that to him on here b4, and I'm not scared to say it to his face. For me - the verdict is kinda up in the air - but I hope he does the right thing here... seems that he is gonna do that *shrugs*

GL to all involved.

[J-ROCK]

^ your sig is awesome

[MugenCrx]

have always had good business done with him but yeah hope he will do the right thing also and gl with the trans

[Papa_Smurf]

i sent you a pm southside.

[JDMGRNAV6]

ban this piece of shit

[southside]

ban this piece of shitHow about you do it?Oh let me guess because you bought some springs and didnt like them your on the fuck SS list too dude fuck you.


This.



There are people that would say nothing, catch him at a meet, walk up to him, beat the shit out of him, then leave.


50 is a small price to pay. Idk if he is "standup" - you won't catch me "vouching" for many people b/c in my 31 years I've learned that people are whoever they want to be depending on who they are around - when I'm playing bass in gospel quartets I'm a "nice respectable stand-up guy" - when I'm at the club i"ll take 3 bitches home and fuck them in front of their mom at the Thanksgiving dinner table - when I'm on the street you'll never catch me more than 10 feet away from my Gloc - when I'm at the park w/ my daughter I'm some1 totally diff again. See my point? People vouch for their pit bulls - "he won't bite". Well, my answer is "no nigga he won't bite YOU - I'm nobody to that dog and he is nobody to me." SS maybe won't sell some bullshit to his best friend, but to a stranger... I don't put nothing past any1.



I can't say I've had a bad run-in with him, but I know a lot of people have had "interesting" things to say about the squad he rolled with. I've said that to him on here b4, and I'm not scared to say it to his face. For me - the verdict is kinda up in the air - but I hope he does the right thing here... seems that he is gonna do that *shrugs*



GL to all involved.:thinking:Funny you say that people would beat my ass and leave if I supposeitly knew somebody stole my car that is what I would do.But all these people swear I have this garage full of stolen shit and a car pieced together of stolen parts yet I will pop my hood anytime for someone to look for their stolen parts.Or jack my car up so they can look for any parts that I supposeitly stole from them yet nobody has confronted me or have said anything to me about a stolen car.Yet everybody wants to hide behind a keyboard and talk shit if I did it and your so sure about ME ME ME doing this that and the other come with proof and not oh he say she say shit.And we will see whats up but all this internet chat shit aint it.Like I said to all the people that dont know me:lmfao::camera::yes::yes::yes::2up: Lol silly rabbit trix are for kids:goodjob:

[quickdodge®]

So is this going to get worked out or what? Later, QD.

[BABY J]

:thinking:Funny you say that people would beat my ass and leave if I supposeitly knew somebody stole my car that is what I would do.But all these people swear I have this garage full of stolen shit and a car pieced together of stolen parts yet I will pop my hood anytime for someone to look for their stolen parts.Or jack my car up so they can look for any parts that I supposeitly stole from them yet nobody has confronted me or have said anything to me about a stolen car.Yet everybody wants to hide behind a keyboard and talk shit if I did it and your so sure about ME ME ME doing this that and the other come with proof and not oh he say she say shit.And we will see whats up but all this internet chat shit aint it.Like I said to all the people that dont know me:lmfao::camera::yes::yes::yes::2up: Lol silly rabbit trix are for kids:goodjob:

Ok - since there seems to be some confusion about who "somebody" is, I'll re=phrase it. if you sold me this shit and didn't make it right I'D be that "somebody". Make sense to you now? Good. Don't pick my fuckin post apart and get what you want out of it w/out addressing the rest. I ALSO said that I've never had bad interaction with you -but I def care more about the scene as a whole than I do 1 individual --- if you lay down with dogs, then don't be suprised if you wake up with fleas. People are often judged by the company they keep - you are not an exception to that and neither am I. Again - I said you ROLL WITH some shady individuals - doesn't matter to me if YOU think they aren't - perception is reality to me, so that's my perception. I never ONCE blamed you for stealing anything ... but some1 who hangs out w/ bank-robbers shouldn't be too suprised if their grandmom, the general populace, bank employees and the police associates them with bank-robbers - THAT is all I am saying. Never said you had a garage full of stolen shit, so we're good in that regard. I'm just saying that the opportunity to make this right w/ a few bucks is much easier than what you would have been afforded by "somebody" else (me). That's not a threat - I don't make those via the web. Again - I hope yall work it out and good luck on your buying / selling / modding.

[Papa_Smurf]

So is this going to get worked out or what? Later, QD.

me and southside are messaging about how/when to exchange the money.

[Fast4DoorDC]

These silly IA fucks have no idea, if Southside was such a thief I would think his car would be running LOL Southside is a stand up Guy IMO, its just hard to believe it took the Guy that long to find out it was a ls tranny I could see if he called him soon as he ran into the problem but instead fixes the problem then calls dude wanting money, who's to say dudes not just trying to get over that's just my opinion, but southsides a good dude and gonna make the situation right

[Papa_Smurf]

These silly IA fucks have no idea, if Southside was such a thief I would think his car would be running LOL Southside is a stand up Guy IMO, its just hard to believe it took the Guy that long to find out it was a ls tranny I could see if he called him soon as he ran into the problem but instead fixes the problem then calls dude wanting money, who's to say dudes not just trying to get over that's just my opinion, but southsides a good dude and gonna make the situation right

I love people who dont fucking read.

As i've said 50 times in this thread, i dont live at my rents house, i go to college. the tranny was stored at their house until i could come home (2 months later). I had 1 day to tear it down and put it back together, no time to play piddly winks and fuck around. So i fixed it while i could, and put it all back together. Can't just leave car parts scattered around in my rents garage taking up space.

And if you think i'm trying to pull one over, check my rep. I've never had 1 bad transaction with anyone and not a single person has had 1 bad thing to say about me in this thread.



Whatever, the situation is being resolved and Southside has agreed to compensate me. Although money has not exchanged hands yet, he has agreed to pay. So it's pointless for this thread to be open anymore.

[quickdodge®]

So it's pointless for this thread to be open anymore.

We'll leave it open until it's actually over and done with. Later, QD.

[Papa_Smurf]

We'll leave it open until it's actually over and done with. Later, QD.

10-4

[stillaneon]

Ok - since there seems to be some confusion about who "somebody" is, I'll re=phrase it. if you sold me this shit and didn't make it right I'D be that "somebody". Make sense to you now? Good. Don't pick my fuckin post apart and get what you want out of it w/out addressing the rest. I ALSO said that I've never had bad interaction with you -but I def care more about the scene as a whole than I do 1 individual --- if you lay down with dogs, then don't be suprised if you wake up with fleas. People are often judged by the company they keep - you are not an exception to that and neither am I. Again - I said you ROLL WITH some shady individuals - doesn't matter to me if YOU think they aren't - perception is reality to me, so that's my perception. I never ONCE blamed you for stealing anything ... but some1 who hangs out w/ bank-robbers shouldn't be too suprised if their grandmom, the general populace, bank employees and the police associates them with bank-robbers - THAT is all I am saying. Never said you had a garage full of stolen shit, so we're good in that regard. I'm just saying that the opportunity to make this right w/ a few bucks is much easier than what you would have been afforded by "somebody" else (me). That's not a threat - I don't make those via the web. Again - I hope yall work it out and good luck on your buying / selling / modding.

That's it right there.

I wish more people had this mindset. It's never about what kind of person you are, it's what kind of person people say you are.

Reputation is everything.

[southside]

Ok - since there seems to be some confusion about who "somebody" is, I'll re=phrase it. if you sold me this shit and didn't make it right I'D be that "somebody". Make sense to you now? Good. Don't pick my fuckin post apart and get what you want out of it w/out addressing the rest. I ALSO said that I've never had bad interaction with you -but I def care more about the scene as a whole than I do 1 individual --- if you lay down with dogs, then don't be suprised if you wake up with fleas. People are often judged by the company they keep - you are not an exception to that and neither am I. Again - I said you ROLL WITH some shady individuals - doesn't matter to me if YOU think they aren't - perception is reality to me, so that's my perception. I never ONCE blamed you for stealing anything ... but some1 who hangs out w/ bank-robbers shouldn't be too suprised if their grandmom, the general populace, bank employees and the police associates them with bank-robbers - THAT is all I am saying. Never said you had a garage full of stolen shit, so we're good in that regard. I'm just saying that the opportunity to make this right w/ a few bucks is much easier than what you would have been afforded by "somebody" else (me). That's not a threat - I don't make those via the web. Again - I hope yall work it out and good luck on your buying / selling / modding.
Lmao like I said once again I dont give a fuck about what anybody thinks including you.Funny people say I hang with shady people but the same people I know you do too:thinking::goodjob: and like I said dude good luck beating my ass.:lmfao: Like I said ill make it right and no need for if this was me shit cuz its not.Get it got it done;),Like I said hesitate because time frame and I know if someone sold me some fucked up shit or the wrong shit I wouldnt fix it and keep it I would ask for a full refund.But Im going to try to paypal the money Alan just gotta get my friend to give me his info pm me your Info also.

[BABY J]

Lmao like I said once again I dont give a fuck about what anybody thinks including you.Funny people say I hang with shady people but the same people I know you do too:thinking::goodjob: and like I said dude good luck beating my ass.:lmfao: Like I said ill make it right and no need for if this was me shit cuz its not.Get it got it done;),Like I said hesitate because time frame and I know if someone sold me some fucked up shit or the wrong shit I wouldnt fix it and keep it I would ask for a full refund.But Im going to try to paypal the money Alan just gotta get my friend to give me his info pm me your Info also.

At least we have something in common - we both don't give a fuck about what any1 thinks.

I know no1 that you roll with - I roll solo so you know no1 that I roll with. While we are comparing apples to helicopters, let's take a look... you are implicated in MULTIPLE theft / shady ass people threads, even though no1 has pinpointed you as thief. If you know thieves and do nothing or say nothing, you're just as guilty in my book. I am implicated in exactly ZERO theft threads - I am implicated as hanging with shady people exactly ZERO times ... I think that says a lot about you vs me. But you wanted to take it here --- so there we have it. Shall we go on, or will you continue to ignore certain parts of my posts yet key in on other parts?

I'm laughing at your inabilty to comprehend a complete sentence vs just seeing what parts YOU want to see... I tried to keep it neutral and say no1 has ever pegged you as a thief... let's take a look...


I ALSO said that I've never had bad interaction with you -

and


... I never ONCE blamed you for stealing anything ...

and


Again - I hope yall work it out and good luck on your buying / selling / modding.

you decided not to quote that "vouch" and speak on that... but decided to key in on the fact that I said you roll with some shady ass people. If you think I'm gonna just tell half the story then you can forget it - I call a spade a spade EVERY time. You can't see the forest for looking at the trees I guess. I said I'd kick your ass if 1) if you sold me some bullshit and 2) didn't try to make it right. We don't ever have to worry about either of those happening b/c I don't do business with you... so I'm not worried about that and neither should you. If others do good business with you, good for you and good for them. Good business is between the buyer and the seller. But BAD business is of interest to EVERYONE in the scene b/c bad business affects more people (Let's say I steal your wheels and sell them to QD, who sells them to Julio. You don't know Julio, but you see his car and you KNOW they are your wheels bc you KNOW your shit when you see it - right? See how muddy that situation gets? J wouldn't want stolen wheels - but shouldn't be out of the money that he paid QD, and you shouldn't be out of your wheels just b/c I stole them - FUCKED UP situation for lots of people - not to mention the theft by receiving charge that J and QD could be stuck with for basically doing "nothing wrong).

I think it's interesting that of all the things you have in your signature you have to post something where you get a vouch for NOT being a thief - that shit is classic. :lmao: I guess some people have to brag about things that regular decent people consider normal - *shrugs*

This is the part where you say something else dumb.

[Black4DrEK]

LOL

Dayum this sure did get ugly.. .hmmm someone shoulda kept the mouth shut.. hah

[Catnip]

I think it's interesting that of all the things you have in your signature you have to post something where you get a vouch for NOT being a thief - that shit is classic. :lmao: I guess some people have to brag about things that regular decent people consider normal - *shrugs*

This is the part where you say something else dumb.

Like my sig?

LOLOLOL.

*high fives J*

[Echonova]

At least we have something in common - we both don't give a fuck about what any1 thinks.

I know no1 that you roll with - I roll solo so you know no1 that I roll with. While we are comparing apples to helicopters, let's take a look... you are implicated in MULTIPLE theft / shady ass people threads, even though no1 has pinpointed you as thief. If you know thieves and do nothing or say nothing, you're just as guilty in my book. I am implicated in exactly ZERO theft threads - I am implicated as hanging with shady people exactly ZERO times ... I think that says a lot about you vs me. But you wanted to take it here --- so there we have it. Shall we go on, or will you continue to ignore certain parts of my posts yet key in on other parts?

I'm laughing at your inabilty to comprehend a complete sentence vs just seeing what parts YOU want to see... I tried to keep it neutral and say no1 has ever pegged you as a thief... let's take a look...



and



and



you decided not to quote that "vouch" and speak on that... but decided to key in on the fact that I said you roll with some shady ass people. If you think I'm gonna just tell half the story then you can forget it - I call a spade a spade EVERY time. You can't see the forest for looking at the trees I guess. I said I'd kick your ass if 1) if you sold me some bullshit and 2) didn't try to make it right. We don't ever have to worry about either of those happening b/c I don't do business with you... so I'm not worried about that and neither should you. If others do good business with you, good for you and good for them. Good business is between the buyer and the seller. But BAD business is of interest to EVERYONE in the scene b/c bad business affects more people (Let's say I steal your wheels and sell them to QD, who sells them to Julio. You don't know Julio, but you see his car and you KNOW they are your wheels bc you KNOW your shit when you see it - right? See how muddy that situation gets? J wouldn't want stolen wheels - but shouldn't be out of the money that he paid QD, and you shouldn't be out of your wheels just b/c I stole them - FUCKED UP situation for lots of people - not to mention the theft by receiving charge that J and QD could be stuck with for basically doing "nothing wrong).

I think it's interesting that of all the things you have in your signature you have to post something where you get a vouch for NOT being a thief - that shit is classic. :lmao: I guess some people have to brag about things that regular decent people consider normal - *shrugs*

This is the part where you say something else dumb.http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x249/Echonova1/flawlessvictory.jpg

[southside]

At least we have something in common - we both don't give a fuck about what any1 thinks.

I know no1 that you roll with - I roll solo so you know no1 that I roll with. While we are comparing apples to helicopters, let's take a look... you are implicated in MULTIPLE theft / shady ass people threads, even though no1 has pinpointed you as thief. If you know thieves and do nothing or say nothing, you're just as guilty in my book. I am implicated in exactly ZERO theft threads - I am implicated as hanging with shady people exactly ZERO times ... I think that says a lot about you vs me. But you wanted to take it here --- so there we have it. Shall we go on, or will you continue to ignore certain parts of my posts yet key in on other parts?

I'm laughing at your inabilty to comprehend a complete sentence vs just seeing what parts YOU want to see... I tried to keep it neutral and say no1 has ever pegged you as a thief... let's take a look...



and



and



you decided not to quote that "vouch" and speak on that... but decided to key in on the fact that I said you roll with some shady ass people. If you think I'm gonna just tell half the story then you can forget it - I call a spade a spade EVERY time. You can't see the forest for looking at the trees I guess. I said I'd kick your ass if 1) if you sold me some bullshit and 2) didn't try to make it right. We don't ever have to worry about either of those happening b/c I don't do business with you... so I'm not worried about that and neither should you. If others do good business with you, good for you and good for them. Good business is between the buyer and the seller. But BAD business is of interest to EVERYONE in the scene b/c bad business affects more people (Let's say I steal your wheels and sell them to QD, who sells them to Julio. You don't know Julio, but you see his car and you KNOW they are your wheels bc you KNOW your shit when you see it - right? See how muddy that situation gets? J wouldn't want stolen wheels - but shouldn't be out of the money that he paid QD, and you shouldn't be out of your wheels just b/c I stole them - FUCKED UP situation for lots of people - not to mention the theft by receiving charge that J and QD could be stuck with for basically doing "nothing wrong).

I think it's interesting that of all the things you have in your signature you have to post something where you get a vouch for NOT being a thief - that shit is classic. :lmao: I guess some people have to brag about things that regular decent people consider normal - *shrugs*

This is the part where you say something else dumb.Dude half of the stuff is irrelavant because all the situations stated have nothing to do with me.And didnt have anything to do with anything at all but thanks for the story.I comprehend half the shit people say because 99.5% is something that someone just wanted to say to jump into a situation.I dont have all day to sit on IA and read your saga of stuff you have to say like you said you wont do business with me and same for me to you so anything else you have to say is pointless correct.?Yes because anything you have to say concerns me none as same for the stuff I say.



LOL

Dayum this sure did get ugly.. .hmmm someone shoulda kept the mouth shut.. hah
As for you lol someone happen to be me by no means possible maybe you should take your own advice and STFU:goodjob:

[Black4DrEK]

^^^^^

LOL what?

?? I didnt understand what you just meant to say...

And Y u jumpin on my ass??

Whats up with the EF in your sig??

[Echonova]

Dude half of the stuff is irrelavant because all the situations stated have nothing to do with me.And didnt have anything to do with anything at all but thanks for the story.I comprehend half the shit people say because 99.5% is something that someone just wanted to say to jump into a situation.I dont have all day to sit on IA and read your saga of stuff you have to say like you said you wont do business with me and same for me to you so anything else you have to say is pointless correct.?Yes because anything you have to say concerns me none as same for the stuff I say.



As for you lol someone happen to be me by no means possible maybe you should take your own advice and STFU:goodjob:Here's the bottom line. I don't know you from a hole in the ground, you may very well be the second coming of Christ. But I can tell you I would never buy shit from you because of your associations, and your name has come up one time too many... Christ or not. Do you care? Probably not. This site gets new members everyday... But I know of at least one you will never get money from. And rep is something you can never buy. I dare you to find one person on this site that says I'm a bad seller or have ANY associations with someone shady... Won't happen. Because I don't hang out with thieves.

[punkr6]

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c236/mootopia/IMGP5571.jpg

[quickdodge®]

So are we to assume that this is NOT going to be handled? Later, QD.

[punkr6]

So are we to assume that this is NOT going to be handled? Later, QD.

I would assume so, Southside should have refunded the guys $$$ from the start and maybe helped to save his already shady reputation on here. But he has decided to choose a small amount of money and be know as a bad seller/thief. Remember one thing Southside, WE Don't Forget Stuff Like This round here....

[Fast4DoorDC]

If the seller and buyer came to an agreement why must all these other punk bitches keep talking if u don't like him cool just don't buy from him shit, and to the other person this ain't a discussion about what kind of person "u" are so stfu!!! And papa smurf gl hope u and Southside work shit out

[Papa_Smurf]

So are we to assume that this is NOT going to be handled? Later, QD.

well southside has agreed to pay me $50, but i've yet to receive the money. we agreed to send it over paypal cause i'm not gonna be in the atlanta area for awhile, and he's currently trying to find sum1 who has paypal. he says it will be this friday and i'll get my money.

[quickdodge®]

If the seller and buyer came to an agreement why must all these other punk bitches keep talking if u don't like him cool just don't buy from him shit, and to the other person this ain't a discussion about what kind of person "u" are so stfu!!! And papa smurf gl hope u and Southside work shit out

Coming to an agreement and actually going through with it are two different things. Later, QD.

[Papa_Smurf]

Coming to an agreement and actually going through with it are two different things. Later, QD.

x2.

he has agreed to meet up with me, but thats simply not an option for awhile because i'm so far away. so giving him sum time to send it via paypal.

[CeOTiO8]

This is still open? SMH.... Bump for great buyers and sellers I guess...... I KID I KID :lmfao:

[Papa_Smurf]

*update*


i'm supposed to receive the funds tonight.

[GreenDB7]

Did you get the drugs, errr.... I mean money?

[Papa_Smurf]

not yet, having sum technical difficulties. But southside is keeping me posted and being very cooperative with everything.

[GreenDB7]

not yet, having sum technical difficulties. But southside is keeping me posted and being very cooperative with everything.

Thats good. Atleast he maned up.

[quickdodge®]

Atleast he maned up.

When? Later, QD.

[southside]

When? Later, QD.Money sent!!!!

[quickdodge®]

Money sent!!!!

As soon as the OP vouches, this will be shut down and you can sell again.

On a side note, though, we are going through people that consistently sell on here and getting them to start paying. Later, QD.

[Papa_Smurf]

money received.

[Scotsman]

awesome