whats your favorite N/A motor

[jdm-civic]

the b16b is mines as far as hondas go...... whats your and what manufacturer

[silversol]

fords boss 302 engine!

[HypnoToad]

427 BBC

[lovinmydodge]

427 super jet! or the 572.... really the 502 tho, because with the compression ratio of the 502... it can be supercharged or turbo'd easily.

[skeet]

I love k20z3 but, it's not my favorite. Affordable yes and a great na engine that's reliable. If I had the money I would get a 458I.


http://www.streetfire.net/video/jawdropping-ferrari-458-italia-action_708477.htm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnU3NdZ5c7k (sounds bad ass) listen to the gear change also.

http://www.shell.com/home/content/motorsport/ferrari/fan_zone/videos/gt_cars/458_animation/


*edit* 458 Italia boasts a 4.5 litre V8 engine that produces an astonishing 570hp at 9000rpm

[tnomud]

454

[XanRules]

LSx.

[punkr6]

motors are electric. don't you mean engine ? :screwy:

[silverDA]

i was put up on game by a 1.6 non obd,my fav.

[punkr6]

:english:
i was put up on game on a 1.6 non obd,my fav.

[silverDA]

my bad,that was honda slang.

[Bacon]

a running one...:dunno:

[DeeAOne]

probably any big block chevy just for the ass loads of chassis twisting torque. :burnout:

[silverDA]

^easy now.

[bigdare23]

My favorite engine is a d16a6

[.blank cd]

motors are electric. don't you mean engine ? :screwy:

Has this fallacy not died off yet?

[Black4DrEK]

B18C5

[112480]

K20/24!!

[Catnip]

my bad,that was honda slang.



No it wasn't.

And probably one of the 400+ cubic inch small block chevrolets that produce 1000hp+ (TRE for example)

[Jenson]

V8=LS7. The new Ford 5.0L is showing some great promise though.
I4=F20C

[5speed]

Any rotary

V8- L98

[ThEGrNGoBLiN]

B18C1 FTMFW!!!

[thundercatz1]

K20Z1 FTW!

[5speed]

B18C1 FTMFW!!!


K20Z1 FTW!

This is because you guys can't or don't care to spend money on something better.

[thundercatz1]

Hey I had a 32 valve mach 1 also

[5speed]

And you like the K20Z1 more why? What liter was the 302? 4.6 right? It isn't expensive to mod those. The gains you get compared to a k20z1 with the same amount of money far outweighs it. Please give a real explanation to this. And don't give me the Hawnduh weighs less. I am not trying to bash on you, bc I was a Honda lover myself, but there isn't a way that could be better.

[CHADbee]

i dont get it either....why would you ever wanna have a N/A 4 cylinder car? boost or displacement....thats the only way anybody is gonna make enough power for a fast street car.


and to answer your question.......LSx.

[thundercatz1]

And you like the K20Z1 more why? What liter was the 302? 4.6 right? It isn't expensive to mod those. The gains you get compared to a k20z1 with the same amount of money far outweighs it. Please give a real explanation to this. And don't give me the Hawnduh weighs less. I am not trying to bash on you, bc I was a Honda lover myself, but there isn't a way that could be better.

Heres the explanation, I loved my mach 1 til the day it slid in a ditch, All you could hear me talk about was my 4valve and still would if I still had it. I do agree with you, the 32 valve does have way more potential than the little k that could.

I just like the k20z1 because I see it potential and what It can do and its inspiring what you can do to a little motor. Also you got to look at what your power goals are. All I want is 275-300hp and weight loss and I'm cool

[Drummerboy]

I4 - H22
I6 - Whatever the M3's engine code it, lol.
V6 - 4.3L Vortec
V8 - LSx

[HillClimbGuy]

rotary= bridge ported....... brap brap brap brap bad ass
I4= tie between b18 with vtec killer cams and sr20 with brain crower 272/272 cams
I6= e46 m3 engine with stage 3 HPF turbo
V6= vq35 with brain crower 272/272 cams NA/Turbo
V8=ls2 with 244/242 cams open header

i just love a good lobe.............

[CeOTiO8]

M3 engine... The only thing I'm scared to drive... Due to the fact I drove my boys turbo E30 with the M3 in it... Good o' days

[jfman]

To listen to ? viper v10

[big mac]

the b16b is mines as far as hondas go...... whats your and what manufacturer


why would you want this torque less engine

[03RCode]

Ford 428SCJ

[EJ25RUN]

If i showed this thread to Honda engineers they'd laugh at some of the choices.

Anyways, not my favorite but one Honda can be proud of.

1989 Honda RA109E 3.5L V10
http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae309/Motominded/inomoto_mclaren-f1-marlboro-hond-1.jpg?t=1269748126

[Elbow]

I couldn't pick my favorite NA motor if my life depended on it. NA > Boost.

[dazn]

whats that engine they put into the geo metros? those were awesome!

[skeet]

nice picks on engines buy this is still butt-sex

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnU3NdZ5c7k

[SeePlusPlus]

26b, mazda 787 ftw

and the new mad mike 4 rotor : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWTULnclu6Y

[h22 jones]

I pick the h22 for the same reason i always have cheap to build to make nice power. the question to why would you pick that over a v8 because the ls1 im putting in my bmw doesnt get 34.5 miles to the gallon thats why. to run low 12s or high 11s and get that gas mileage on motor is impressive to any v8 guy ive ever talked to .Now to the man that has plenty of money buy a 1400 hp all motor small block ( yes they make them very reliable to cost about 75,000 and run 6s in the quarter in a tube chasis) have fun . Im just saying there is a reason that people choose whatever motor they choose weither it be price , what they can get parts for or whatever . I dont bash anybody for there choices just say try to get as much as you can out of what ever you choose.

[StreetHazard]

252hp and 34.5 miles to the gallon all motor.

WOW! you make a convincing argument sir

[Motivation]

4g63t

[SlowEG9]

I pick the h22 for the same reason i always have cheap to build to make nice power. the question to why would you pick that over a v8 because the ls1 im putting in my bmw doesnt get 34.5 miles to the gallon thats why. to run low 12s or high 11s and get that gas mileage on motor is impressive to any v8 guy ive ever talked to .Now to the man that has plenty of money buy a 1400 hp all motor small block ( yes they make them very reliable to cost about 75,000 and run 6s in the quarter in a tube chasis) have fun . Im just saying there is a reason that people choose whatever motor they choose weither it be price , what they can get parts for or whatever . I dont bash anybody for there choices just say try to get as much as you can out of what ever you choose.

34.5 realistically or the one time you actually tried to get good mileage? I get a little better although with a sohc and shit gearing.

[TheChosenOne]

An F22aX built by Bisimoto. 4 cylinders pushing 300+ WITHOUT VTEC. End thread.

[h22 jones]

And how much did it cost him to build that. Did you realy say end thread like thats the god of motors some people lol. It gets over 30 miles to the gallon every tank of gas and that is not babying it at all. If any knows me they know i dont drive anything slow the last tank was 33.5 miles to gallon. Im not saying i couldnt build a single that gets 40 miles to the gallon im sure i could but will it run low 12s on motor nope. The whole purpose of vtec is to get good gas mileage not hear how loud it is next to your homies car.

[h22 jones]

Im trying to find a better fith gear and i thank it will get atleast 2 more miles to the gallon . I could build a bad ass 350 to go in my bmw but it would get less then 10 miles to the gallon and i would never drive it by going with the ls1 swap it will get about 22 miles to mthe gallon and run low 12s. I guess nothing i build is a strait drag car they are true street cars and i wanna be able to afford to drive them. If somebody gave me a prostock car i couldnt afford it .I heard it cost 50,000 dollars just to test and tune one . I would love to have one and drive one and it is far supperior to anything i will ever own i just simply cant afford it so i guess my favorite is what i can afford and still pay my shop and house payment.

[TheSnail]

Pagani Zonda F's V12 by Mercedes. One of the few cars I would pay extra to not have a radio.

http://www.fast-cars.ch/images/Pagani/Zonda_F/Pagani_Zonda_F_Engine.jpg

[cprtyler]

i would say the f20b dohc vtec accord euro r 200hp at 9000rpms factory and lots of potonial for 1400 for full lsd 5 speed swap

[CHRISNITTOLO]

rotary= bridge ported....... brap brap brap brap bad ass
I4= tie between b18 with vtec killer cams and sr20 with brain crower 272/272 cams
I6= e46 m3 engine with stage 3 HPF turbo
V6= vq35 with brain crower 272/272 cams NA/Turbo
V8=ls2 with 244/242 cams open header
i just love a good lobe.............

You forgot H4, H6, V10, V12, V4, And what kind of rotary? 2 rotor? 3 rotor? I'm guessing by the pic in your sig you'd rather a 13b...? Correct?

Lolol!

[SlowEG9]

And how much did it cost him to build that. Did you realy say end thread like thats the god of motors some people lol. It gets over 30 miles to the gallon every tank of gas and that is not babying it at all. If any knows me they know i dont drive anything slow the last tank was 33.5 miles to gallon. Im not saying i couldnt build a single that gets 40 miles to the gallon im sure i could but will it run low 12s on motor nope. The whole purpose of vtec is to get good gas mileage not hear how loud it is next to your homies car.

thats pretty sweet man. Agreed with your whole post lmao....

[Humphrizzle]

Honda Motor Co.

B18C5

that is all.. dont care much about any other car companies.

[SPOOLIN]

honda K20 platform, because you can produce 375whp from them if done right.

[Revmaynard]

426 Hemi

[BanginJimmy]

Chevy 350. The motors are damn near bullet proof and parts are cheap, and everywhere.

[h22 jones]

The post about the f20b motor from honda is correct i have owned 3 that is a bad ass motor especialy for the money. for 1600 you get a t2t4 lsd trany which i am running in my hatch right now very nice trany. Also you get full type s head i mean valve train ,cams hole nine yards. The block is iron sleeves the rods are big as crap i mean this is a bad ass little motor . Ive put two in none gutted 2500 pound hatches and run 13.5 both times bone stock all day for years. I have also reeved one of these motors to 9500 dailey bone stock for 5 years and can prove ask anyone from macon lol . Truely a great honda motor for the money. Although the down side that most people dont realize about h22 and f20b the automatic motor suck. The auto f20b dont come with the type s head or the the 11.1 compression or the 66mm throttle body. If you dont order a h22 ,h23,or f20b with a five speed trany you are losing 20hp to start off with so for all these people that wondered why your h22 wasnt as fast as your friend now ya no.

[112480]

The post about the f20b motor from honda is correct i have owned 3 that is a bad ass motor especialy for the money. for 1600 you get a t2t4 lsd trany which i am running in my hatch right now very nice trany. Also you get full type s head i mean valve train ,cams hole nine yards. The block is iron sleeves the rods are big as crap i mean this is a bad ass little motor . Ive put two in none gutted 2500 pound hatches and run 13.5 both times bone stock all day for years. I have also reeved one of these motors to 9500 dailey bone stock for 5 years and can prove ask anyone from macon lol . Truely a great honda motor for the money. Although the down side that most people dont realize about h22 and f20b the automatic motor suck. The auto f20b dont come with the type s head or the the 11.1 compression or the 66mm throttle body. If you dont order a h22 ,h23,or f20b with a five speed trany you are losing 20hp to start off with so for all these people that wondered why your h22 wasnt as fast as your friend now ya no.

Ay mike i wonder what a 280+whp H2b swap in a 88 crx HF(the LIGHTEST OF THE LIGHTEST;1800-ISH LBS!) would run like? What do u think?

[TheChosenOne]

An F22aX built by Bisimoto. 4 cylinders pushing 300+ WITHOUT VTEC. End thread.

Phuck yes, and I will say it again. 390!!!! all motor!!! Give the man his credit. Don't get me wrong, your 252 is very impressive, but this is an opinionated poll, and with all circumstansce accounted for, Bisi proved that an older, overlooked motor could do better than ANY OTHER HONDA MOTOR HAS EVER DONE, WITHOUT VTEC. I'll give you a thousand dollars if you can point out any all motor honda build, D,B,H,F,K that puts down 390 WHP, then that will be my new favorite.

[NJSC]

S50 and VR6

[allmotorEJ8]

I4- Nissan SR20
I6- Jeep 4.0L
V6 Chevy 4.6L
V8- Chevy 350

[h22 jones]

Nobody said anything about giving any credit to anybody in this thread and you didnt build the motor so what is your argument again. I did not try to build the badess all motor honda on the planet this is not even a race car . The point im arguing has nothing to do with what your saying but i guess your not intelligent enough to see that . Im talking about practical motors that anybody can build that are cheap and still get good gas mileage which is what vtec is made for. No need to argue the point that he made power out of a nonvtec motor hell vtec does nothing but get you gas mileage if i didnt care about my gas mileage id probably build a non vtec motor myself theyare easier to come by .You can put big ass cams in any motor not just vtec ones .

[SPOOLIN]

Phuck yes, and I will say it again. 390!!!! all motor!!! Give the man his credit. Don't get me wrong, your 252 is very impressive, but this is an opinionated poll, and with all circumstansce accounted for, Bisi proved that an older, overlooked motor could do better than ANY OTHER HONDA MOTOR HAS EVER DONE, WITHOUT VTEC. I'll give you a thousand dollars if you can point out any all motor honda build, D,B,H,F,K that puts down 390 WHP, then that will be my new favorite.

Clutchmasters has been making that on their all motor K cars for a few years now, wheres my $1000

[MachNU]

302 4v ....sounds similiar to this when there built NA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXMSVE5Minw&feature=related

[h22 jones]

sounds like somebody owes somebody 1000 .

[h22 jones]

Im sure he has a good reply to that spoolin he is just to busy at work making your 1000 dollars right now.

[TheChosenOne]

pssshhh. numbers? Them K's are the truth though.

Mr H22 dude, you need to chill the fuck out, with the quickness. Are you seriously going to attack my intelligence because you refuse to accept my own opinion? Dude, I drive an accord... there is no one who appreciates the H22 more than I, but I would prefer to kick it old school with my one cam wonder.

[greasemunkey]

4 rotor. don't know shit about them but I want one lol, seriously insane how small it is and the power it can produce, and there is nothing like it.

[seanrg1116]

^^^^^^^ Its not that small other than dispalcement, it takes up as much room in an engine bay as a sbc

[h22 jones]

I dont see were i have insulted anything but there again i realy dont see were your that intelligent. I have no problem with the motor you suggested hell its not that far off from being a h22 anyway .It even has a h23 crank and rods from the factory but im sure you new that mr intelligent. its the statement were you said end thread like that motor was god is were the problem is so take your own advice and let people have there opinion instead of suggesting they close the thread cause your motor is the best. If you are realy as intelligent as you say you are then you know you owe mr spoolin a 1000 dollars.

[HeLLo iM iZzY]

Phuck yes, and I will say it again. 390!!!! all motor!!! Give the man his credit. Don't get me wrong, your 252 is very impressive, but this is an opinionated poll, and with all circumstansce accounted for, Bisi proved that an older, overlooked motor could do better than ANY OTHER HONDA MOTOR HAS EVER DONE, WITHOUT VTEC. [i]I'll give you a thousand dollars if you can point out any all motor honda build, D,B,H,F,K that puts down 390 WHP, then that will be my new favorite. [i] 402HP ALL MOTOR....
http://www.honda-tech.com/showthread.php?t=2417170

PM me for my paypal or PM me a spot in Gwinnett where we can meet up....

And to stay on topic, I love the k24/k20 setup motor

[h22 jones]

lmao

[gsrcivic]

GSR OR TYPE R ALL THE WAY THERE GOOD ON THE TRACK AND IN THE CRUVES U CANT BET THE RELABLILTY OF A HONDA