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punkr6
03-28-2010, 01:13 PM
any of you thought about it ? Discuss.....

MachNU
03-28-2010, 01:17 PM
Yep plenty of times, to much of a coward to go through with it.

silversol
03-28-2010, 01:18 PM
Most people have. But only selfish motherfuckers do it!

jdm-civic
03-28-2010, 01:21 PM
OP should commit it......

quickdodgeŽ
03-28-2010, 01:22 PM
OP should commit it......

Along with the author of Post #4.

By the way, how was your vacation? Later, QD.

MINI
03-28-2010, 01:34 PM
Most people have. But only selfish motherfuckers do it!

They aren't selfish. If they are going to kill themself then they aren't in the right state of mind anyway.

quickdodgeŽ
03-28-2010, 01:35 PM
They aren't selfish.

They're selfish idiots. Later, QD.

MachNU
03-28-2010, 01:40 PM
They're selfish idiots. Later, QD.

How? Its selfish for someone to end their pain and suffering? Some say its selfish because of the burden and pain it puts on the family and friends...but at the same time, if a person was able to go to that length, then should not the family and friends have noticed? Or were they selfish in not noticing or caring?

Elbow
03-28-2010, 01:44 PM
How? Its selfish for someone to end their pain and suffering? Some say its selfish because of the burden and pain it puts on the family and friends...but at the same time, if a person was able to go to that length, then should not the family and friends have noticed? Or were they selfish in not noticing or caring?

Really? So suicide is the families fault now or peoples fault for not noticing? It's selfish to leave family and friends like that and it's for the weak. NOTHING is worth killing yourself over. It's a harsh and extremely sad thing when one takes their own life from hardships in life and obviously they are having an EXTREMELY tough time. When someone is having that hard of a time friends and family may not be enough.

MINI
03-28-2010, 01:45 PM
They're selfish idiots. Later, QD.

No, a selfish idiot is one who has suffered little hardship and when something doesn't go as plan for them and they put a bullet in their head instead of riding it out. I'm talking about people who have always gotten the short end of the stick for decades of their lives.

If you are mentally suffering for years upon years, how can that be selfish? After a while, what's going on in their mind is out of their or anyone else's hands.

MachNU
03-28-2010, 01:48 PM
Really? So suicide is the families fault now or peoples fault for not noticing? It's selfish to leave family and friends like that and it's for the weak. NOTHING is worth killing yourself over. It's a harsh and extremely sad thing when one takes their own life from hardships in life and obviously they are having an EXTREMELY tough time. When someone is having that hard of a time friends and family may not be enough.

Not arguing that its a good thing. It does put untold burden and hardships on the family and friends. Hell like a article I read once, interviewing someone who jumped from the Golden Gate bridge and managed to survive... he said "As soon as I let go of the bridge all my problems seemed fixable." Its true nothing is worth killing yourself over. But at the same time when someone gets to that break point, they are not in the correct state of mind. Which plays back to a family member or a friend should be able to notice. If someone has alot of friends and family that care, then in their mind, they see it as selfish that someone did not try to help them in their time of need. Deaming others as being selfish against them.

To me its a two sided topic. Yes one side is a terrible outcome but on the other side, its selfish that no one noticed or did anything.

MINI
03-28-2010, 01:48 PM
Really? So suicide is the families fault now or peoples fault for not noticing? It's selfish to leave family and friends like that and it's for the weak. NOTHING is worth killing yourself over. It's a harsh and extremely sad thing when one takes their own life from hardships in life and obviously they are having an EXTREMELY tough time. When someone is having that hard of a time friends and family may not be enough.

Nothing is worth killing yourself over, so you should live through mental torment for the rest of your life.

MachNU
03-28-2010, 01:50 PM
No, a selfish idiot is one who has suffered little hardship and when something doesn't go as plan for them and they put a bullet in their head instead of riding it out. I'm talking about people who have always gotten the short end of the stick for decades of their lives.

If you are mentally suffering for years upon years, how can that be selfish? After a while, what's going on in their mind is out of their or anyone else's hands.

Agreed. People who kill themselves over one time recent events that went wrong, is selfish, and those that live hardships day in an day out and never catch a break or are never able to better things. Then thats someone who is so far gone and the views of reality for them are far warped.

Elbow
03-28-2010, 01:52 PM
Nothing is worth killing yourself over, so you should live through mental torment for the rest of your life.

Are you tempting suicide? You're supporting the fuck out of it.

No you shouldn't live in torment either, you should fix problems. I agree ones who attempt it for stupid little things or do it knowing they won't die but craving attention and stuff are the true weaklings. I can truly imagine a case where life has been so hard for years that it could seem like the only way out. I still don't think it IS the way out though. You can fix any problem. Go to a doctor, find hobbies, move, take meds, etc. I know those don't help much if you're in that kind of state but a MAN will ride it out and keep high hopes. We've all been in shitty situations, we've had years of hardship, SHIT HAPPENS, only the strong will survive the hell called life.

I agree family and friends can notice when someone is having major issues, BUT, when you get in that state not much from them will help you. In my experiences if they decide they're GOING to commit suicide then they're GOING to attempt it. Nothing you say or do can change that, you can get them help, but that's a MAJOR decision that gives them a solid state of mind and relief.

MINI
03-28-2010, 01:52 PM
Agreed. People who kill themselves over one time recent events that went wrong, is selfish, and those that live hardships day in an day out and never catch a break or are never able to better things. Then thats someone who is so far gone and the views of reality for them are far warped.

Exactly, humans can only handle so much stress. The human mind can break and have faults like anything else in the world.

MINI
03-28-2010, 01:55 PM
Are you tempting suicide? You're supporting the fuck out of it.

No you shouldn't live in torment either, you should fix problems. I agree ones who attempt it for stupid little things or do it knowing they won't die but craving attention and stuff are the true weaklings. I can truly imagine a case where life has been so hard for years that it could seem like the only way out. I still don't think it IS the way out though. You can fix any problem. Go to a doctor, find hobbies, move, take meds, etc. I know those don't help much if you're in that kind of state but a MAN will ride it out and keep high hopes. We've all been in shitty situations, we've had years of hardship, SHIT HAPPENS, only the strong will survive the hell called life.


lol No I don't support it. There are just too many variables to assess suicidal people as a whole.

MachNU
03-28-2010, 01:57 PM
Are you tempting suicide? You're supporting the fuck out of it.

No you shouldn't live in torment either, you should fix problems. I agree ones who attempt it for stupid little things or do it knowing they won't die but craving attention and stuff are the true weaklings. I can truly imagine a case where life has been so hard for years that it could seem like the only way out. I still don't think it IS the way out though. You can fix any problem. Go to a doctor, find hobbies, move, take meds, etc. I know those don't help much if you're in that kind of state but a MAN will ride it out and keep high hopes. We've all been in shitty situations, we've had years of hardship, SHIT HAPPENS, only the strong will survive the hell called life.

To me this is a untouchable arguement from anyones stand point. No one has either attempted it and failed/survived. Only person that could shed light on the worst of the worst on this topic would be someone who has attempted and succeed, but kinda hard to reply for them. None of us could say what the views of a person would be that has had to go to that extreme over a life of hardship. Because a life of those hardships would twist someones perception of life that to them there is only one way out. To them they would have tried all solutions with no better outcome, no friends of family came to them in there time of need, medical side effects made things worst... to them it would be a never ending downward sprial.

loverboy_gnd
03-28-2010, 02:06 PM
i agree that nothing is worht taking your own life for, and only weak people commit suicide, but on the flip side i can see and understand why a person may feel like thats their only option, look at some homeless people, who have to sleep on the street in subzero temperatures, and get up not knowing where their next meal is coming from of if they're going to to live to see tomorrow, situations liek that could really fuck with you mentally, or someone whose forced to live crippled, blind ect for the rest of their life, when life comes at you hard and everyday your praying for better, but better never comes, it would make you start thinking about things in a different light. Again im am 100% against suicide, but i can see what drives people to do it... just me:2cents:

Slomaro Z28
03-28-2010, 02:13 PM
This question is kinda of like is there a heaven/hell. The only people who can give you a 100% answer, can't give you an answer at all. I have been through some hard crap in my life as a kid and teenager,and it did cross my mind as a fix all solution. But on to the point I don't agree with it.

HypnoToad
03-28-2010, 02:20 PM
I dont think anything is worth doing it,I've never thought bout it. I've been dealing with my health for all my life and had a astma(sp) attack and died when I was 15,after seeing how fast you can be gone and leave everyone you love,I'd never even give it a thought and I dont see how others would.

cactusEG
03-28-2010, 02:28 PM
I wouldnt feel sorry for anyone whos would do it !

Double_0_Rusty
03-28-2010, 02:30 PM
Yeah, when I was younger I went through some hard times. Met my biological dad, two weeks later he killed himselft, blaming me in the letter. Ive had to deal with that daily, went through a nasty break up, at the same time, lost my scholarship at to go to UGA, and lost my job. All withing the same week. I took my .45 glock, loaded it, went down to the river, wrote a note to my family, and then I chickened out. Damn I am glad I did. I have a loving family, a good job, an awesome girl. Everything in my life is good. I haven't been this happy. I have no regrets in my actions that day, as it made me a better man.

Slomaro Z28
03-28-2010, 02:35 PM
I dont think anything is worth doing it,I've never thought bout it. I've been dealing with my health for all my life and had a astma(sp) attack and died when I was 15,after seeing how fast you can be gone and leave everyone you love,I'd never even give it a thought and I dont see how others would.

Your point of view is different from 99% of the world, how many people have been dead and revived.

Slomaro Z28
03-28-2010, 02:36 PM
Yeah, when I was younger I went through some hard times. Met my biological dad, two weeks later he killed himselft, blaming me in the letter. Ive had to deal with that daily, went through a nasty break up, at the same time, lost my scholarship at to go to UGA, and lost my job. All withing the same week. I took my .45 glock, loaded it, went down to the river, wrote a note to my family, and then I chickened out. Damn I am glad I did. I have a loving family, a good job, an awesome girl. Everything in my life is good. I haven't been this happy. I have no regrets in my actions that day, as it made me a better man.

Sounds like this.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YK3zs7EV6Tk

bdydrpdmazda
03-28-2010, 02:47 PM
They're selfish idiots. Later, QD.

I think one about sums it up...

Double_0_Rusty
03-28-2010, 02:56 PM
Sounds like this.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YK3zs7EV6Tk

wow man.......wow.

im at a loss of words. other than it being close to the same thing.

Slomaro Z28
03-28-2010, 03:05 PM
wow man.......wow.

im at a loss of words. other than it being close to the same thing.

First thing that came to mind, thought I'd share.

Did you watch the whole thing? Even the ending sounds like a similar situation.

EG_Ryder
03-28-2010, 03:13 PM
why are people trying to justify suicide? thats just fucked up

MachNU
03-28-2010, 03:33 PM
Sounds like this.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YK3zs7EV6Tk

dam thats a great video! really makes you think.

claybird
03-28-2010, 03:43 PM
Maybe if i wanted to commit suicide, i just want to be in a happier place. I wanna be with god. I have made my choice in life and asked for forgiveness. Its not selfish at all. Family and friends are ignorant of the fact that you are in a better place. Pain and sorrow is a fleshy need. Sounds to me like the family and friends are selfish for not being happy their loved one is happy now. A Time of death (when its the proper time) should be celebrated. You wont go to hell by killing your self. Thats stupid. If you know you have your faith in God and know he is our Saviour, and want t be with him, and your flesh life is horrible, then well you know Heaven is a better place so why not be there?

quickdodgeŽ
03-28-2010, 03:44 PM
No, a selfish idiot is one who has suffered little hardship and when something doesn't go as plan for them and they put a bullet in their head instead of riding it out. I'm talking about people who have always gotten the short end of the stick for decades of their lives.

If you are mentally suffering for years upon years, how can that be selfish? After a while, what's going on in their mind is out of their or anyone else's hands.

Mentally ill people, more often than not, don't even have the mental capacity to contemplate suicide.

Then you have the moron whose life isn't going just as he planned so he offs himself. Complete selfishness. I lived on Peachtree Street for two years without a roof over my head. Never once did I think of that as an out.

The vast majority of the people that do this are OF SOUND MIND and not mentally challenged. They live in a pity party world and think "boo-hoo, no one likes me" so they kill themselves.

Just plain stupid. Later, QD.

Elbow
03-28-2010, 04:05 PM
Some of the comments in this thread are truly scary.

loverboy_gnd
03-28-2010, 04:24 PM
Sounds like this.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YK3zs7EV6Tk

damn +1 to you sir........ powerful song


Some of the comments in this thread are truly scary.

agreed!

Bacon
03-28-2010, 04:33 PM
Mentally ill people, more often than not, don't even have the mental capacity to contemplate suicide.

Then you have the moron whose life isn't going just as he planned so he offs himself. Complete selfishness. I lived on Peachtree Street for two years without a roof over my head. Never once did I think of that as an out.

The vast majority of the people that do this are OF SOUND MIND and not mentally challenged. They live in a pity party world and think "boo-hoo, no one likes me" so they kill themselves.

Just plain stupid. Later, QD.

This is exactly right. :goodjob: My co-worker's sister killed herself because she was bullied at school and she found no other way out. Mentally handicapped people usually can't understand what suicide is and it usually isn't taught what it is.

punkr6
03-28-2010, 04:42 PM
OP should commit it......

I would rather watch you DIAF. My life is way to easy to end it.....

quickdodgeŽ
03-28-2010, 05:29 PM
Maybe if i wanted to commit suicide, i just want to be in a happier place. I wanna be with god. I have made my choice in life and asked for forgiveness. Its not selfish at all. Family and friends are ignorant of the fact that you are in a better place. Pain and sorrow is a fleshy need. Sounds to me like the family and friends are selfish for not being happy their loved one is happy now. A Time of death (when its the proper time) should be celebrated. You wont go to hell by killing your self. Thats stupid. If you know you have your faith in God and know he is our Saviour, and want t be with him, and your flesh life is horrible, then well you know Heaven is a better place so why not be there?

You're an idiot all over the map of Idiotville. Do you even see the hypocrisy in your own post? Later, QD.

Double_0_Rusty
03-28-2010, 07:14 PM
First thing that came to mind, thought I'd share.

Did you watch the whole thing? Even the ending sounds like a similar situation.


Yeah man I watched it through. Good stuff.

There is no way you can justify suicide, I am soooo fucking happy I didn't go through with my plans. I live a very happy life now, just through some dark times and alcohol abuse made me realize that everyday you wake up, you can change your future.

loverboy_gnd
03-28-2010, 08:03 PM
ok not for anyone who was thinkin their life is hard.... if this guy can live with a smile on his face, then anyone can make it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AW579icDRSA

Mantooth
03-28-2010, 08:29 PM
It has never even crossed my mind. Homicide, however...

punkr6
03-28-2010, 08:36 PM
It has never even crossed my mind. Homicide, however...

lol...

98blackcivic
03-28-2010, 08:38 PM
id much rather get hit by a mack truck, mauled by tigers, bit by a poisonous snake in the desert, crash in a plane, drink hydrochloric acid, flick off a buncha gang bangers, get shot, drown, get beat to death, get tortured, get electrocuted, get caught on fire, run over by a bulldozer, fall of a 10 story building, get hit by a asteroid, OD, ripped to shreds in a wood chippers, get eat by cannibals, get suffocated, bleed to death, poisoned, die of an allergic reactions, fall in a volcano, get sliced by a swords, get my jugular vein slashed, get stuck in a tornado, get bombed by an hydrogen bomb, age




than commit suicide

Miss.Kayla
03-28-2010, 08:52 PM
nope too much of a chicken shit to do it lol

punkr6
03-28-2010, 08:52 PM
nope too much of a chicken shit to do it lol

you can do it....

The Creeper
03-28-2010, 09:29 PM
I think everyone has thought of it at one point in time in their life, or at least thought about the idea of it. Also, there are some people that are born mentally troubled, who are destined for suicide. I recently caught a HBO documentary about a kid born depressed, and was thinking of Suicide at around the age of 5 or 6. Inevitably, he did kill himself at 15. A very eye opening documentary to say the least. People shouldn't judge others about why they committed the act, or say they are weak, selfish, etc. You aren't them. You have no right to assess their life or mindset. In the end though, it's not natural to kill yourself. It's not in our genetics or normal mindset.

quickdodgeŽ
03-28-2010, 10:27 PM
I think everyone has thought of it at one point in time in their life, or at least thought about the idea of it.

I never have. And I have been in situations where one would think I would have contemplated it. Worse than probably 99% of this site has been through.

But it never even occurred to me that that could be a way out. It's a cowardly thing to do. I could only think of a couple of instances where I probably wouldn't blame the person, but other than that, it's completely weak and selfish. Later, QD.

The Creeper
03-28-2010, 10:37 PM
I never have. And I have been in situations where one would think I would have contemplated it. Worse than probably 99% of this site has been through.

But it never even occurred to me that that could be a way out. It's a cowardly thing to do. I could only think of a couple of instances where I probably wouldn't blame the person, but other than that, it's completely weak and selfish. Later, QD.

I see what you are saying, but what I meant is thought about the idea of it in a not so suicidal way. Like "hey, I wonder what it would be like." Like a curiosity thing that you would never take part in.

quickdodgeŽ
03-28-2010, 10:39 PM
I see what you are saying, but what I meant is thought about the idea of it in a not so suicidal way. Like "hey, I wonder what it would be like." Like a curiosity thing that you would never take part in.

I got you, buddy, but I can honestly say that in my few years out there, I NEVER thought it. I NEVER wondered if it would better. I always knew that i had to keep going. Some people just aren't that strong or just don't have that fight in them. Later, QD.

punkr6
03-28-2010, 10:45 PM
I think some people just have no passion and no drive. So life isn't something they think will be missed....

MR2DR
03-28-2010, 10:53 PM
Maybe if i wanted to commit suicide, i just want to be in a happier place. I wanna be with god. I have made my choice in life and asked for forgiveness. Its not selfish at all. Family and friends are ignorant of the fact that you are in a better place. Pain and sorrow is a fleshy need. Sounds to me like the family and friends are selfish for not being happy their loved one is happy now. A Time of death (when its the proper time) should be celebrated. You wont go to hell by killing your self. Thats stupid. If you know you have your faith in God and know he is our Saviour, and want t be with him, and your flesh life is horrible, then well you know Heaven is a better place so why not be there?

Wow.. if you're a Christian man, you should know that suicide = automatic hell.

suicide = the pussy way out.
If you REALLY wanna die, hold up a bank and make it rain :lmfao:

quickdodgeŽ
03-28-2010, 10:56 PM
Wow.. if you're a Christian man, you should know that suicide = automatic hell.

suicide = the pussy way out.
If you REALLY wanna die, hold up a bank and make it rain :lmfao:

Hence my reply to the same post earlier today:


You're an idiot all over the map of Idiotville. Do you even see the hypocrisy in your own post?

Later, QD.

5speed
03-28-2010, 11:14 PM
I honestly attempted when I was a teen. I was a weak minded little bitch, and that is what you are if you truly think about doing it. There are so many other people out there who has went through worse shit than you and you never know, it could be someone you know.

The Creeper
03-29-2010, 04:46 AM
I honestly attempted when I was a teen. I was a weak minded little bitch, and that is what you are if you truly think about doing it. There are so many other people out there who has went through worse shit than you and you never know, it could be someone you know.

Yea I always try and live by the "there is always someone better off than you, and always someone worst off than you." I am going to play the antagonist on this though. You can't compare peoples situational well being when talking about Suicide and depression, because most of it develops in the mind. That's why you have millionaires that kill themselves, and in the same instance, you have people with the most horrible life imaginable that keep on trucking. I also disagree when you say people that contemplate it and go through with it are bitches. Weak minded, yes. Screwed up thoughts, maybe. Selfish, possibly. Skewed sense of reality, probably. Random thought of the night : I wonder how many True Christians would kill themselves if Suicide was not a sin..

And to QD, you are a prime example of someone who pushes on, and has a correct mindset on life itself. Especially considering the fact that you have mentioned being homeless at one point in time in your life. You would think that would be rock bottom for anyone, and a "acceptable" time to contemplate suicide. So props to you for keeping the thoughts out of your head, and not giving up. Me personally, I have a curiosity of death, and the afterlife, so I have thought about the act, but lets just say I have never held a gun to my head so to speak.

Bajjani
03-29-2010, 07:23 AM
I don't think the weakness is the attempting suicide but the being so damn stupid to think that no one will care. The other side is people who "attempt" suicide usually know they're going to fail and are reaching out for attention. The weakness, to me, is that stupidity not to know when to ask for help or someone to talk to.

Suicide is selfish. QD, you'll have to enlighten me on times where you think its not selfish, cause I can't think of any.
For those of you say it's selfish for people to not notice, thats just fucking stupid. Those families are going to beat themselves up asking how they could have missed it, no one wants to go around thinking, oh my son or my brother/daughter is depressed and suicidal, you're right. But what exactly would someone be looking for to know that they're gonig to commit suicide? Usually the ones who are going to do it AREN'T going to make a big scene about it.

Thats my .02.

quickdodgeŽ
03-29-2010, 08:34 AM
Me personally, I have a curiosity of death, and the afterlife,

With me being an avid ghost hunter for about a decade, I too, am intrigued by death and what happens afterward.



Suicide is selfish. QD, you'll have to enlighten me on times where you think its not selfish, cause I can't think of any.

The only thing I could see as halfway acceptable is someone (who is not mentally ill or challenged) who lives in a constant, unrelenting state of pain. Someone that has lives through pain every second of the day. A pain that can't be stopped. A pain that is debilitating. I could empathize with someone wanting to end it all for the sake of alleviating that pain. Later, QD.

Bajjani
03-29-2010, 08:49 AM
The only thing I could see as halfway acceptable is someone (who is not mentally ill or challenged) who lives in a constant, unrelenting state of pain. Someone that has lives through pain every second of the day. A pain that can't be stopped. A pain that is debilitating. I could empathize with someone wanting to end it all for the sake of alleviating that pain. Later, QD.

I'll agree to that one, my initial thought of someone committing suicide is the person who does it in secret. If someone is in that much pain I'd see the family knowing about it and them making their desires known so they could say goodbyes. But yea, I'll agree.

quickdodgeŽ
03-29-2010, 09:14 AM
I'll agree to that one, my initial thought of someone committing suicide is the person who does it in secret. If someone is in that much pain I'd see the family knowing about it and them making their desires known so they could say goodbyes. But yea, I'll agree.

Exactly. But your average suicide is done out of coward-ness and selfishness. Later, QD.

TSiFTW
03-29-2010, 09:21 AM
I can honestly say I've never contemplated it and could never. I like to think of my loved ones first.

Bajjani
03-29-2010, 09:24 AM
You know it crossed my mind way back but it wasn't I want to do it, it was more like what would happen if I did and I just saw my parents devastated along w/my brother and sister and my closest friends.

YoTa_BoX
03-29-2010, 09:26 AM
Have I contemplated it, sadly yes. Some times I am of a weaker mind, but time heals those sort of things and i come to my senses and get past such foolish thinking. It is a selfish way to go in my opinion. There is help out there for any one who seeks it. The only instance I could see I could be ok with some one doing it is being permanently in pain, like others have said. I know the ending stages of cancer, especially bone cancer, can be horrific pain that never goes ends.

As they say, every one has their own demons, from Millionaires to the poorest of the poor. Its just how you deal with it that makes the difference. For me just seeing a beautiful sun set is enough to pull me out of my deepest depression some times. Seeing how beautiful life is around me, is enough to realize how beautiful life really is, and all the wonderful things I have in life. This is only my account, so im not speaking for any one else. This is just how i see things.

NEMO
03-29-2010, 09:39 AM
lets change it up a bit. take the movie "Gran Torino" at the end of the movie was his actions suicide? selfish?

punkr6
03-29-2010, 11:13 AM
lets change it up a bit. take the movie "Gran Torino" at the end of the movie was his actions suicide? selfish?

he took one for the team so to speak, hardly the same thing...

DriVaH
03-29-2010, 11:28 AM
my take on suicide is you have to be a coward to go through with it... it is more of a fuck you when you fight thru the bad times in life and come out on top....with that being said, that is the only reason i haven't done it.

NEMO
03-29-2010, 01:14 PM
he took one for the team so to speak, hardly the same thing...
so its ok to commit suicide if its for a good cause?

5speed
03-29-2010, 01:18 PM
With me being an avid ghost hunter for about a decade, I too, am intrigued by death and what happens afterward.



The only thing I could see as halfway acceptable is someone (who is not mentally ill or challenged) who lives in a constant, unrelenting state of pain. Someone that has lives through pain every second of the day. A pain that can't be stopped. A pain that is debilitating. I could empathize with someone wanting to end it all for the sake of alleviating that pain. Later, QD.

I completely agree. There is are certain situations that I understand it being used as a last resort.

5speed
03-29-2010, 01:18 PM
so its ok to commit suicide if its for a good cause?

It was a cause to help others, same as a soldier in my book.

NEMO
03-29-2010, 01:21 PM
It was a cause to help others, same as a soldier in my book.good point

ARH1192
03-29-2010, 01:51 PM
They aren't selfish. If they are going to kill themself then they aren't in the right state of mind anyway.

I don't think you can say that about everyone that has committed. Like me for instance, I consider myself self to have a pretty good head on my shoulders. But if I were to get paralyzed to where life would suck terribly I would off myself. To live a life and not be able fall in love with a woman, no sex, no chance to have kids of my own... That's not a life I want to live. But then again I am atheist so that my be another reason to why I'd rather just off myself.

Bajjani
03-29-2010, 02:29 PM
It was a cause to help others, same as a soldier in my book.

What cause is there to commit suicide that helps others? I mean the first thing that came to my mind was a soldier jumping on a grenade, that isn't suicide that is self sacrifice, he didn't want to die but he gave his life to save others.

So I'm not following

ISAtlanta300
03-29-2010, 03:51 PM
why are people trying to justify suicide? thats just fucked up

What if you were locked for life in a jail cell with Mr. bubba "twelche inches" bubbs ..... would you take a lifetime of anal abuse and a colonostopy bag? Or would you pray for death? LOL

Elbow
03-29-2010, 03:54 PM
I'd actually probably kill myself if I was in jail for life, there is NOTHING in jail worth living for.

DriVaH
03-29-2010, 03:58 PM
What if you were locked for life in a jail cell with Mr. bubba "twelche inches" bubbs ..... would you take a lifetime of anal abuse and a colonostopy bag? Or would you pray for death? LOLat that point he would have to had killed me to take my verginity..

loverboy_gnd
03-29-2010, 04:03 PM
at that point he would have to had killed me to take my verginity..

X2 id fight till he killed me before i let some shit like that happen

RedEj8
03-29-2010, 04:28 PM
I'd probably only kill myself if I serving life in Jail, became paralyzed from the neck down, got my dick/balls cut off with no way of reattaching..I would want someone to kill me if I became a veggie from Brain injury..

but never would I ever kill myself over trivial shit..like girls. or what someone thinks of me, my employment status, etc..

5speed
03-29-2010, 04:32 PM
What cause is there to commit suicide that helps others? I mean the first thing that came to my mind was a soldier jumping on a grenade, that isn't suicide that is self sacrifice, he didn't want to die but he gave his life to save others.

So I'm not following

Sacrifice is definitely the word

Friggintitsman
03-29-2010, 06:15 PM
I support suicide

punkr6
03-29-2010, 06:21 PM
I support suicide

you and jdm-civic should deff. do it...

Friggintitsman
03-29-2010, 06:23 PM
you and jdm-civic should deff. do it...

for sure

§treet_§peed
03-30-2010, 10:57 AM
Most homeless people are druggies, drunks, or both. Most don't want to help themselves. Not that they can't, they just don't want to put the effort into it. Suicide is a touchy subject. Most of you will jump on the band wagon of putting anyone down who even brings it up, which is wrong. But hey, most of you have your nose up your ass so far anyways.

quickdodgeŽ
03-30-2010, 11:04 AM
Most homeless people are druggies, drunks, or both.

You have no idea what you're talking about, do you?


Most of you will jump on the band wagon of putting anyone down who even brings it up, which is wrong. But hey, most of you have your nose up your ass so far anyways.

You sure like to use the word "most" as if you have some sort of statistical proof of your claims. I've never been known as a band wagon person. Nor do I have my nose in my ass. Suicide is for the weak and feeble mind. Later, QD.

§treet_§peed
03-30-2010, 11:19 AM
You have no idea what you're talking about, do you?



You sure like to use the word "most" as if you have some sort of statistical proof of your claims. I've never been known as a band wagon person. Nor do I have my nose in my ass. Suicide is for the weak and feeble mind. Later, QD.

I know a lot of homeless people. From the ones I know and from ones I have met, MOST are one or both of what I said. I didn't say all people, but think of it as you will.

Elbow
03-30-2010, 11:20 AM
All the homeless people I've met in the streets are usually 20x happier than most regular civilians. lol

§treet_§peed
03-30-2010, 11:24 AM
All the homeless people I've met in the streets are usually 20x happier than most regular civilians. lol
I can agree with this statement for the most part. I believe it to be from the lack of stress in their lives. They honestly don't worry like people that slave their life away every day do.

Elbow
03-30-2010, 11:31 AM
I can agree with this statement for the most part. I believe it to be from the lack of stress in their lives. They honestly don't worry like people that slave their life away every day do.

Slave like away? LMFAO WTF :lmfao:

So working is slaving now? Only people who don't get an education and lack motivation to get a real job slave at life, even then they still don't have to.

§treet_§peed
03-30-2010, 11:33 AM
Slave like away? LMFAO WTF :lmfao:

So working is slaving now? Only people who don't get an education and lack motivation to get a real job slave at life, even then they still don't have to.

Even people with degrees or multiple degrees still work their ass off. So you think just because you get a few years of college under your belt that you will have it made for the rest of your life? Wow, take your head out of your ass.

quickdodgeŽ
03-30-2010, 11:43 AM
I know a lot of homeless people. From the ones I know and from ones I have met, MOST are one or both of what I said. I didn't say all people, but think of it as you will.

Ok, most of the ones you've met. I got you now. So you've probably met about 1% of the entire US homeless population. And rural homeless at that. Go into the big city and hang out with these people. It's a whole different thing, man. And really get in there. Like I did. Your "most" theory will quickly be proven wrong.

And no need to take the context of your own words out through my response. I never said that you said "all." I questioned your use of the word "most." There is a difference in the two.


Even people with degrees or multiple degrees still work their ass off. So you think just because you get a few years of college under your belt that you will have it made for the rest of your life? Wow, take your head out of your ass.

So working your ass off is equal to slavery? I have never met one person that thinks their college degree will guarantee them "made" status. Maybe the people you met that thought that are the same as the homeless people you "know."

Dude, I know you're an alright dude, but I seriously think you have issues. You've been posting issue-filled threads for a few years now. I don't know if you're just upping your post count or you really believe the garbage you post, but damn, man. It's weird with the content of your posts and you tell other people to take their head out of their asses. You don't ever think you're posting from an anal crevice? Later, QD.

Elbow
03-30-2010, 11:45 AM
Even people with degrees or multiple degrees still work their ass off. So you think just because you get a few years of college under your belt that you will have it made for the rest of your life? Wow, take your head out of your ass.

I've worked my ass off in jobs I hated but still loved life and didn't think of it as "slaving." You work to earn a living and enjoy life. It's not forced on you, if you hate a job that bad QUIT. I don't think education is a secret way to bring happiness but I know with it you have a lot higher of a chance finding a job that you decently like.

§treet_§peed
03-30-2010, 11:52 AM
O I do have issues, but who doesn't?

quickdodgeŽ
03-30-2010, 11:52 AM
but who doesn't?

I'll raise my hand. Later, QD.

Elbow
03-30-2010, 11:53 AM
I'll raise my hand. Later, QD.

lololol

§treet_§peed
03-30-2010, 12:40 PM
I'll raise my hand. Later, QD.

Aw damn, I forgot about you being perfect man. What was I thinking?

quickdodgeŽ
03-30-2010, 01:30 PM
What was I thinking?

You weren't. Later, QD.

RedEj8
03-30-2010, 02:37 PM
lulz

§treet_§peed
03-30-2010, 04:26 PM
Obviously.

jfman
04-15-2010, 11:25 PM
Unless you are a veggie from a horrible wreck.. not an option

Turbo Terrance
04-15-2010, 11:27 PM
too much in life to look forward to!!! hell naw its not even on my mind!!!