Intercooler set up help.

[j0nbunklah0m]

Ok, so i need to connect my intercooler piping to the turbo, but the elbow doesnt agree with me. Any suggestions on what to do?
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[punkr6]

you need to rotate the turbo housing....

[punkr6]

also, better pics please....

[big mac]

Make the inlet be facing driver side. And rotate the compressor housing

[j0nbunklah0m]

K, i'll try n get some better pics up tmrw. I tried flipping it but the downpipe wont fit the other way.

[Slomaro Z28]

Yeah, just unbolt it and put the cold side on the left of the car. Like this.....

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h187/Southernbabe0906/DSC_4842.jpg



Just saw where the DP wont work......should be able to rotate the housing.

[j0nbunklah0m]

Yeah, just unbolt it and put the cold side on the left of the car. Like this.....

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h187/Southernbabe0906/DSC_4842.jpg



Just saw where the DP wont work......should be able to rotate the housing.

k thanks, i'll give it a shot tmrw. n update yall :cheers:

[tdurr]

he cant rotate the housing, its internally waistgated. your gonna have to either get the compressor side cut and rewelded facing a different way, get a different cold side housing, or move the rad somehow so the ic pipes can fit.

[punkr6]

he cant rotate the housing, its internally waistgated. your gonna have to either get the compressor side cut and rewelded facing a different way, get a different cold side housing, or move the rad somehow so the ic pipes can fit.

depends on the turbo, I rotated my last gated Garrett with no problem....

[Slomaro Z28]

Guessing that's a factory turbo off something? Since the inlet is turned like that....

[tdurr]

it had a Internal wg? wut kind of turbo was it then?

[Slomaro Z28]

Get anything figured out today?

[j0nbunklah0m]

Get anything figured out today?

nope, didnt have a chance to work on it today, but i'll update tommorow with more pics :)

[j0nbunklah0m]

damn, rain prevented me from working much so i couldnt get any good pics. tmrw morning if its nice outside. But i got some questions:
Does it matter that the oil drain pipe is horizontal or has a dip in it.. or will pressure keep the oil moving?


Also, on my radiator i have 2 tubes coming out from the bottom.. im not sure what they're for, but i was thinking of hooking up the water ports from the turbo to them if it flows through?

.. sorry im new to all this, but reps for help!

[tdurr]

the oil drain need to be perpendicular to the ground, it doesnt have "pressure" it just flows with gravity.
and that line on the rad if for a auto trans cooler. i wouldnt hook it up.

[Slomaro Z28]

Not 100% sure, but I don't think you have to use the water. The oil alone should cool it just fine.

[Jdm94Coupe]

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[Jdm94Coupe]

it had a Internal wg? wut kind of turbo was it then?

garrett t3/t4 51 trim .48ar

[tdurr]

Not 100% sure, but I don't think you have to use the water. The oil alone should cool it just fine.
yea you dont need to use water. oil will cool it just fine. Just be sure to let it cool down(run at idle for 30sec-2min) after you get on it before u turn it off.

garrett t3/t4 51 trim .48ar
yea... was it internally wastegated?

[j0nbunklah0m]

ok so still didnt get much work done with the intercooler piping, but im havin an issue with the oil drain.
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c362/j0nbunklah0my/0327101632a_255112.jpg
not sure how im going to get it perpendicular to the ground :\

[Slomaro Z28]

I'll get you some pics later today. From what I am looking at, you turbo really needs to be turned around. The DP is keeping you from getting your drain line right and radiator is preventing you from getting you intercooler pipe on.

If its just the pic and the dp isn't in the way just turn your fitting back a 1/4 turn.

[j0nbunklah0m]

Will the oil drain line be able to touch the dp? Or will that be too hot

[dazn]

dont let anything touch the downpipe.
are you piecing together your own kit?

[j0nbunklah0m]

dont let anything touch the downpipe.
are you piecing together your own kit?

Kk, yea piecing it together

[tdurr]

I'll get you some pics later today. From what I am looking at, you turbo really needs to be turned around. The DP is keeping you from getting your drain line right and radiator is preventing you from getting you intercooler pipe on.

do this and you will be fine. you will also have less ic piping to run to the intercooler's hotside.

[DVSRX-7]

What Tduuuuuuuuuuuuurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr said. Can't find a way then why bother starting it?! Figure it out and do work!

[j0nbunklah0m]

What Tduuuuuuuuuuuuurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr said. Can't find a way then why bother starting it?! Figure it out and do work!

yea im gona try that. how was i suppose to know that i cant find a way before i started it? lol..

[tdurr]

yea im gona try that. how was i suppose to know that i cant find a way before i started it? lol..
just hold the turbo up mani duh!!! lol

[j0nbunklah0m]

just hold the turbo up mani duh!!! lol

haha so true. I actually did that the first time around, but the way the downpipe was facing made me think that it could only face one way :doh: however, i just turned the turbo around, and with a little cutting its looking ok.
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c362/j0nbunklah0my/0329101818a_226957.jpg
Its hard to tell from the pics, but the oil drain is still somewhat level to each other, and i need to get a new downpipe made :(. Does anyone know if it is ok to ride like that just until i make it a few miles to the exhaust shop?

[j0nbunklah0m]

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c362/j0nbunklah0my/0329101857a_251970.jpg

here's a better pic showing it, if i actually connect it, its going to have a dip in it

[JJSPEC Racing]

Looks like if you put a straight at the oil pan you may be ok.

[dazn]

yeah, put in a straight fitting.
also, dont drive it without a downpipe.
just mock one up and have it welded later.

[Slomaro Z28]

As said above....a 45* coming out of the turbo into a straight fitting.

[tdurr]

eh, as long as u have a 02 sensor in the DP, u can drive to the exhaust shop. dont get on it tho cuz of the lack of a tune.

but the drain, like they all said, a straight off the oil pan will prob work.

[j0nbunklah0m]

Y is it not ok to drive without the o2 ? Just wondering.. Kuz I'm gonna have him weld a new bung, n the exhaust shop is only 4 miles away

[tdurr]

thats wut ive been told. and I would always want to get a good read on all the sensors to the car so it wont send any crazy inputs to the ecu.

[Slomaro Z28]

"The engine control unit (ECU) is a control system that uses feedback from the sensor to adjust the fuel/air mixture. As in all control systems, the time constant of the sensor is important; the ability of the ECU to control the fuel-air-ratio depends upon the response time of the sensor. An aging or fouled sensor tends to have a slower response time, which can degrade system performance. The shorter the time period, the higher the so-called "cross count" [2] and the more responsive the system."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxygen_sensor#Operation_of_the_probe

When the car is tuned you should be able to go without one, I don't have one anymore. But as of now it's controlling your A/F mixture.

[j0nbunklah0m]

Ahh ic ic, u think it would mess anything up though ? Thx for the help btw!

[Slomaro Z28]

I don't know......might run rich/lean and throw a CEL. I, myself, wouldn't chance it. If it were me, I'd just fork out the money and have it towed up there. Have them put the o2 in the DP, and stay out of boost and get it tuned ASAP.

[-S Double C-]

it will be fine to drive it to the shop trust me. And the turbo you have is a dsm 14b Your gonna have to run some crazy i/c piping to make it work correctly.

[j0nbunklah0m]

it will be fine to drive it to the shop trust me. And the turbo you have is a dsm 14b Your gonna have to run some crazy i/c piping to make it work correctly.

with or without the o2 in?

[dallasb84]

umm..... you should just make your own down pipe.

i dont like how you got your drain line...... i see you blowing that turbo in the future.......

a bad feed and drain is what kills most turbos......



you should also get a 90 degree bend welded on the turbo compressor housing...... turbonetics makes a cast weld elbow.....


honestly that turbo is going to make your budget build not so budgeted.....




i have a welder and could make you a downpipe...... for around 25 bux you can buy a 2.5 " multiple mandrel bend on ebay and get a o2 bung......

get 2 o2 bungs.... one for your ecu and one for the wide band the tuner will need.....


good luck

[tdurr]

umm..... you should just make your own down pipe.

i dont like how you got your drain line...... i see you blowing that turbo in the future.......

a bad feed and drain is what kills most turbos......



you should also get a 90 degree bend welded on the turbo compressor housing...... turbonetics makes a cast weld elbow.....


honestly that turbo is going to make your budget build not so budgeted.....




i have a welder and could make you a downpipe...... for around 25 bux you can buy a 2.5 " multiple mandrel bend on ebay and get a o2 bung......

get 2 o2 bungs.... one for your ecu and one for the wide band the tuner will need.....


good luck

summit has the pipe for cheaper. i spent 40ish on a U-bend and a 4ft sectiion of 2.5 pipe. and the o2 bungs are like 5.50 each from summit.

[-S Double C-]

either or it wont matter driving 4 miles

[crashtke]

That dip is not going to work at all. As others have posted, you HAVE to have the drain where it flows down hill and preferably as straight and perpendicular as possible. I would look into going lower....down to the oil pan or something and get a bung welded in the pan.

[j0nbunklah0m]

http://s31.photobucket.com/albums/c362/j0nbunklah0my/?action=view&current=video-2010-04-04-16-59-02.flv

Got the car running, but its really rough. not sure what the problem is :\

When i block off the butterfly it idles better. when i let it go it shakes the whole engine and almost cuts off

[j0nbunklah0m]

vid up

[j0nbunklah0m]

also, when i rev it up a lil the boost gauge goes to like 10-20 vacuum

[tdurr]

what do u have for fuel set up and tuning set up? when i first stared my car it ran like that because it was dumping WAYYY too much fuel at idle.

fix that first then we can help you with everything else

[j0nbunklah0m]

what do u have for fuel set up and tuning set up? when i first stared my car it ran like that because it was dumping WAYYY too much fuel at idle.

fix that first then we can help you with everything else

450cc dsm injectors with resistor box. 255walbro fuel pump. chipped ecu with a basemap from scotty for the set-up

[crashtke]

leaks can also cause issues....vacuum leak or something along those lines. Will cause the car to do some weird things.

[tdurr]

yea check for mad vac leaks. and u at least have everything fuel wise covered. do u have egr blocked off?

[j0nbunklah0m]

yea check for mad vac leaks. and u at least have everything fuel wise covered. do u have egr blocked off?

nope havent messed with it. is it suppose to be?

[tdurr]

eh, it woudn't hurt. are u planning on keeping all emissions?