My Turbo BMW at Road Atlanta....

[RJ's325ITS]

Well finally I got the chance to take my turbo car to Road Atlanta; it was my first even with the BMW-CCA, but I was stunt on how well organized everything was, and how good the weekend played out.

This was a DE only and as a DE the main objective is safety first and then learn how to drive, so I wasn’t going to go all ball’s out with out some key elements such as:

• Have not been in the “new” RA (they chance the course a bit).
• I didn’t have good tires until Sunday
• The TRM suspension was un-tuned
• In front of my instructor’s eyes, I was another rich guy with a 500WHP car with a dead wish.
• Being placed in group D made it really hard to try to go fast since other students were just starting out.

The good news is that the car went thru the weekend without issues, just traction issues and my wideband oxygen sensor went bad.

It took a lot to gain the trust of my instructor, but by the end of the weekend after we faced situations like: people driving really slow in front of me, people driving way off line, cars braking down, and me refusing to pass in some occasions due to safety; he finally came around and allowed me to put the car where I though it was happy, where I felt it was safe but fast.

My quickest lap was 1min 46sec, they are placing me on B for next even maybe then I’ll have a little more room to get a good rhythm going and get into the 1:30s and once I make it to group A I can jump from the RA-1s to hoosier’s, and really put some power to the ground. :evil2

BTW Sat. I was on all season tires, but for Sun. I bought some used RA-1s (lucky me a friend had them in her garage).

Well, here are the videos:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sepmmNWdCLU



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUKi2p6BRro



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfriPHTX7DM



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFF3wfm6ErY


If you like them please rate them....

Thanks,
Rafa

[scooby_snack]

Very nice. How much the did event cost and where can I find out some info on it? The video's weren't the most extreme hyper-exciting stuff you see from Road Atlanta but they do offer a very good insight into how the instruction and overall mechanics of the track time work out. I like!

[NevrNufTorq]

good runs brother, i rated em all for ya too:D

[RJ's325ITS]

Very nice. How much the did event cost and where can I find out some info on it? The video's weren't the most extreme hyper-exciting stuff you see from Road Atlanta but they do offer a very good insight into how the instruction and overall mechanics of the track time work out. I like!

$430 for the weekend (BMW CCA Peachtree chapter)

oh yeah, very smooth and safe stuff, no off road stuff or extreme angles... time wise okay but the car should be able to be in the 30s easy.


good runs brother, i rated em all for ya too

thanks

[K24cb7coupe]

nice

[evokenny]

very nice videos

[JDMJAYDC2]

wow that thing sounds good and checks out very nice setup you have

[G.C]

dam dude your car sounds sexy. nice runs

[Elbow]

They changed the track? So you haven't been on it since the gravity cavity and all?

Looks fun though, BMW Club runs a good event I usually work their weekends, I may run one this year, I'd say BMWCCA and Porsche Club both offer great DE events and you don't have to own a BMW or Porsche or even like them to run with them. lol (BMWCCA guys make some HILARIOUS BMW jokes)

Not bad times either, 1:30's is pretty quick though, or did you mean 1:30's in general not just 1:30.***

[Big Baller]

Jumping from 1:46 to 1:40 would be a big jump in one weekend.

The BMW events are great but you should look into some NASA events I've always felt like you get more track time

[Elbow]

Jumping from 1:46 to 1:40 would be a big jump in one weekend.

The BMW events are great but you should look into some NASA events I've always felt like you get more track time

Chin and MVP > NASA IMO.

[matthewAPM]

Umm Im hoping that was your first time?

[Elbow]

Are you sitting real low in the seat?

[brownhornet]

Good vids +1 sir

[RJ's325ITS]

They changed the track? So you haven't been on it since the gravity cavity and all?

Not bad times either, 1:30's is pretty quick though, or did you mean 1:30's in general not just 1:30.***

RA has gone thru many changes but I meet RA when 10a & 10b was there (2000), but I remember when the added the drift pad on 10b and then they added/move some walls between 2-4 and the esses.

I meant get into the 30s, but i have the power to deliver a 30 flat lap, it's just a matter of putting the power to the ground....


Umm Im hoping that was your first time?

Uh! can you elaborate?


Are you sitting real low in the seat?

what do you mean?

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BTW thanks for the other good comments guys......

[NJSC]

rated and subscribed to your channel, hope to see some more!

[Elbow]

RA has gone thru many changes but I meet RA when 10a & 10b was there (2000), but I remember when the added the drift pad on 10b and then they added/move some walls between 2-4 and the esses.

I meant get into the 30s, but i have the power to deliver a 30 flat lap, it's just a matter of putting the power to the ground....

What are you talking about? 10A and 10B are there, the drift loop, the bike chicanes, and the walls being moved don't effect you...unless you run off into them. lol

2-4 they added walls? They moved the walls back in the esses.

Anyway about me asking about how low you sit it looks like your arms are bent up. You have the power to do a 1:30? Do you have the skill, the suspension, and the tires?

[Slomaro Z28]

Umm Im hoping that was your first time?




Uh! can you elaborate?


He thinks he is a pro race car driver and giving you a hard time. Good videos

[matthewAPM]

What are you talking about? 10A and 10B are there, the drift loop, the bike chicanes, and the walls being moved don't effect you...unless you run off into them. lol

2-4 they added walls? They moved the walls back in the esses.

Anyway about me asking about how low you sit it looks like your arms are bent up. You have the power to do a 1:30? Do you have the skill, the suspension, and the tires?

Yeah, nothing has really changed. It may look a little different but thats it. Track is still the same.

[RJ's325ITS]

What are you talking about? 10A and 10B are there, the drift loop, the bike chicanes, and the walls being moved don't effect you...unless you run off into them. lol

2-4 they added walls? They moved the walls back in the esses.

Anyway about me asking about how low you sit it looks like your arms are bent up. You have the power to do a 1:30? Do you have the skill, the suspension, and the tires?

All I'm saying is that from a driver perspective, clearing of the land, moving contengency walls here and there, the bike's chicanes, creates a distraction or changes the perspective of the track....

I heard stories of driver that after a little remodeling of their home track, they add 1 or 2 seconds to their average lap times, novice driver have land marks for turn-in points, or trees in front of them for a blind turn, some others use objects on their peripheral vision like me; I hate the cones b/c they don't allow you to develop skills like that


He thinks he is a pro race car driver and giving you a hard time. Good videos

LOL, Okay I get it.....

The funny thing here is that there is a bunch of "pro" pay drivers out there, race teams some times can't say no to an extra $250,000 per season, so they let someone drive 1 of the 3 team's race cars.....

[Elbow]

All I'm saying is that from a driver perspective, clearing of the land, moving contengency walls here and there, the bike's chicanes, creates a distraction or changes the perspective of the track....

I heard stories of driver that after a little remodeling of their home track, they add 1 or 2 seconds to their average lap times, novice driver have land marks for turn-in points, or trees in front of them for a blind turn, some others use objects on their peripheral vision like me; I hate the cones b/c they don't allow you to develop skills like that



LOL, Okay I get it.....

The funny thing here is that there is a bunch of "pro" pay drivers out there, race teams some times can't say no to an extra $250,000 per season, so they let someone drive 1 of the 3 team's race cars.....

What cones? Like the turn in and apex cones clubs put out there? You can still easily pick turn in points and such. lol The driver point of view did change some but I honestly don't really notice it. I thought I would and the first time I went out after they did some work I never even noticed it, except for turn 11-12 feeling not even remotely scary anymore.

The funny thing is you don't know what you're talking about. MOST drivers PAY to race, that's how it works, they will gain some income through results and driver sponsors but even some F1 drivers pay to race. You can't just bring money to a team and they accept you, have you tried? It usually required a test day or a few with other drivers and they make a selection. Do you know how many drivers are actually PAID to race? Not that many. Even a LOT of ALMS and Grand Am drivers PAY.

No offense but you're not making yourself look too knowledgeable about this.

[RJ's325ITS]

The funny thing is you don't know what you're talking about. MOST drivers PAY to race, that's how it works, they will gain some income through results and driver sponsors but even some F1 drivers pay to race. You can't just bring money to a team and they accept you, have you tried? It usually required a test day or a few with other drivers and they make a selection. Do you know how many drivers are actually PAID to race? Not that many. Even a LOT of ALMS and Grand Am drivers PAY.

No offense but you're not making yourself look too knowledgeable about this.

This is the black book of racing so I don't want to go follow you into your rabbit hole... I will clarified a couple of things b4 I leave this alone.

Not because you have tons of money, you can go in and buy a seat...
when those seats become available the teams already have a couple of millionaires in mind, and send out invitations for the "audition" or it's just word of mouth.
You have to be able to meet the race team minimum lap times.
You will never make money out of such a deal as buying a seat in a race team, sponsors income will go only to the team...

Also some times they don't sell the seat, they sell a spot..... In this case you have access to the facilities, fabricators, discounts from parts providers, access to all the development crew, BUT you have to pay out of pocket for your car on top of the buy in for your spot/seat.... So the good thing and bad thing about this is that you own your car, but most of the stuff in your car is proprietary to the Race Team......

So why do race team sell seats/spots????

All comes down to how fast you want to be, and how much money is at hand to get there; sometimes going from 1 to 2 cars in the same race brings 50% more income from the sponsors alone (double exposure, double the chances of podium), and the buy in money for said driver can go to development, it usually ends up there any ways, Why? because usually these pay drivers are a couple of seconds slower that your pro-driver, so you end up investing it into data acquisition system, 1 hire developer driver (to test and teach the pay driver) & 1 engineer (to make sense of all the data and make the car go fast).

In the last company I work for the CEO was a baja driver in his early years, and we had long chats about this subject..... He did his first season as a pay driver, but once he did the numbers he started his own team with his own truck and hire a co-pilot for his second season..... after everything was said and done at the end of the season he broke even, but at least had something to develop, something to show up for....

So Simmon I know a thing or 2 about Motorsports, My family had the Escuderia Torres before you and I were even born, and I've been around the sports here is the U.S.A..... So let's leave this at that, and stop trolling my thread and everyone's thread.

[Elbow]

This is the black book of racing so I don't want to go follow you into your rabbit hole... I will clarified a couple of things b4 I leave this alone.

Not because you have tons of money, you can go in and buy a seat...
when those seats become available the teams already have a couple of millionaires in mind, and send out invitations for the "audition" or it's just word of mouth.
You have to be able to meet the race team minimum lap times.
You will never make money out of such a deal as buying a seat in a race team, sponsors income will go only to the team...

Also some times they don't sell the seat, they sell a spot..... In this case you have access to the facilities, fabricators, discounts from parts providers, access to all the development crew, BUT you have to pay out of pocket for your car on top of the buy in for your spot/seat.... So the good thing and bad thing about this is that you own your car, but most of the stuff in your car is proprietary to the Race Team......

So why do race team sell seats/spots????

All comes down to how fast you want to be, and how much money is at hand to get there; sometimes going from 1 to 2 cars in the same race brings 50% more income from the sponsors alone (double exposure, double the chances of podium), and the buy in money for said driver can go to development, it usually ends up there any ways, Why? because usually these pay drivers are a couple of seconds slower that your pro-driver, so you end up investing it into data acquisition system, 1 hire developer driver (to test and teach the pay driver) & 1 engineer (to make sense of all the data and make the car go fast).

In the last company I work for the CEO was a baja driver in his early years, and we had long chats about this subject..... He did his first season as a pay driver, but once he did the numbers he started his own team with his own truck and hire a co-pilot for his second season..... after everything was said and done at the end of the season he broke even, but at least had something to develop, something to show up for....

So Simmon I know a thing or 2 about Motorsports, My family had the Escuderia Torres before you and I were even born, and I've been around the sports here is the U.S.A..... So let's leave this at that, and stop trolling my thread and everyone's thread.

I'm not trolling your thread I'm correcting you. I've been racing since I was five and have been in the sport ever since. I've had my share of race invitations and have had great free opportunities as well (not races). To even get to the point where you will be paid, you WILL pay to race for someone. Unless you're one of a million kids like Lewis Hamilton or someone and have Mercedes behind you from the vagina you will pay to race as you move up, ask any professional driver.

You're mixing up flat out gentlemen drivers and drivers paying to move up. I guess everyone in the TDI Cup is a joke since they have to pay to race those cars. Teams don't get millionaires in mind to drive for them, they look for funded drivers with skill. I'm FAR from even being slightly wealthy or even really stable and I've had plenty of offers. So that comment goes out the window.

In these cases you CAN make money, if you bring along a driver sponsor the money goes to you, in turn you may spend it to the team but you can make money from it.

If you look at a series like Ferrari Challenge THEN you can put your mentality into play. Most are extremely wealthy older millionares with nothing better to do, teams pamper them and treat them like Schumacher in return for WELL over $50,000 a weekend.

If you look at ALMS, Grand Am, F3, etc. MANY of those drivers PAY to race there and still make money off of it. They bring a large sponsor, use that money to buy their seat, and don't really lose much out of their REAL pocket. You're really not seeing this at all. Do some research and find how many drivers are true paid drivers. Obviously big names are but many are not.

So no, I'm not trolling your thread like I said, I am correcting you because you really don't know much about how the sport works from what you just said. Not even many teams can afford to PAY drivers to race for them without factory support. This IS how racing works. You can't just say "it's funny he pays to race" that doesn't mean someone is a bad driver or lacks skill, that means he's your typical racing driver.

[RJ's325ITS]

I'm not trolling your thread I'm correcting you. I've been racing since I was five and have been in the sport ever since. I've had my share of race invitations and have had great free opportunities as well (not races).

Well, if it comes down to that I'm on top since I've raced before, some rally/go-kart/junior league..... yeah I moved to the U.S. and had to start from square one, with 100% more technology, and 100whp more that what I had have b4....

Point is that a PRO driver gets a royalty check, gets sponsor bonus checks, get's a team check. And that is it...

A paid driver gets invitations like you, and if you have money you will make out there, and maybe have 50% return on your overall investment.... Otherwise they end up like me paying to go fast plain and simple....

Bringing a sponsor into a team is not as easy as you think, and it depends on the contract you have......

I have more respect for developing driver at test drivers, the type of drivers that Colombia (my home) has produce throughout the years, drivers that get where they are base on skills, and signing the right contracts.

I Know a couple of drivers that had big sponsors and still didn't last long out there, either their team did not have enough money to develop the car and make it competitive, or just a bad team; these drivers end up loosing their sponsorship (yes the sponsor they brought in).......

I know one that even with all the sponsorship he is getting, he still has to work part-time when he can to pay his bills..... This sport is a meat market and in now days there are only 3 drivers out there:

1. The one w/money buying their seat
2. The one w/the skills financing everything on their own.
3. The Pro driver waiting to be discover (earning a living testing, developing and sorting race cars).

Back to my original post.... The funny thing here is that there is a bunch of "pro" pay drivers out there, and money puts you in the fast track....

[Elbow]

Well, if it comes down to that I'm on top since I've raced before, some rally/go-kart/junior league..... yeah I moved to the U.S. and had to start from square one, with 100% more technology, and 100whp more that what I had have b4....

Point is that a PRO driver gets a royalty check, gets sponsor bonus checks, get's a team check. And that is it...

A paid driver gets invitations like you, and if you have money you will make out there, and maybe have 50% return on your overall investment.... Otherwise they end up like me paying to go fast plain and simple....

Bringing a sponsor into a team is not as easy as you think, and it depends on the contract you have......

I have more respect for developing driver at test drivers, the type of drivers that Colombia (my home) has produce throughout the years, drivers that get where they are base on skills, and signing the right contracts.

I Know a couple of drivers that had big sponsors and still didn't last long out there, either their team did not have enough money to develop the car and make it competitive, or just a bad team; these drivers end up loosing their sponsorship (yes the sponsor they brought in).......

I know one that even with all the sponsorship he is getting, he still has to work part-time when he can to pay his bills..... This sport is a meat market and in now days there are only 3 drivers out there:

1. The one w/money buying their seat
2. The one w/the skills financing everything on their own.
3. The Pro driver waiting to be discover (earning a living testing, developing and sorting race cars).

Back to my original post.... The funny thing here is that there is a bunch of "pro" pay drivers out there, and money puts you in the fast track....

You're on top? I've raced as well. I meant the freebies weren't races but test days/track days. I started racing karts at around five, I've done enduros, shifters, etc. Even some oval. Both MatthewAPM and I also did the Red Bull F1 DS, that alone somehow got me great contacts. What do you mean you started from square one? What were you driving? Do you not have a driver resume?

I still don't get what you're getting at. Are you trying to say a driver who pays for rides will never be PAID to drive? If so that's simply moronic.

Bringing a sponsor to a team is very easy, I've paid to drive almost everything except cars I've owned. I've been VERY close to running some good stuff and it's usually sponsors who flake or lower their budget making it impossible.

The last driver you mention is a once in a lifetime opportunity almost NOBODY gets to have. You rarely go from karts into a free seat testing or not. Most test drivers have years of experience racing and even PAYING to race. Being discovered in motorsport is a dream many dream about but it's a retarded dream. To really be discovered you have to race, whether you're paying to race or running your own funded car. When most people say PAYING drivers their sponsor is paying, it's not hurting their pocket, when I ran karts I barely spent a dime, I used the money to rent a ride and that was that. The same thing can be said all the way down to track days.

Maybe you're looking to make money in racing? You know what they say about that...lol. However I've never considered making a dime or a profit, I'd race for free and work at McDonalds if it came to that.

Now like I said I really can't comprehend what you're saying. Are you saying I have no skill because I pay to rent rides? I've paid to rent track day cars before because it's easier that way. Paying to drive, race, whatever has NO indication on skill levels. Do you have ANY idea how hard it is especially in America to be given an opportunity to race for free? I can't even comprehend the thought of being PAID to do it.

The three type of drivers you are imagining are not exactly the truth. You have people who pay to race as a hobby, rent a car way too fast for them, and get offers from teams who solely run their business off of millionaires aka gentlemen drivers having fun. Results don't matter. Sponsors don't matter. It's all fun. You then have the paying to drive drivers who have talent and are moving up the ladder. These drivers show just as much talent as your "waiting to be discovered driver" but wait, that IS the driver you speak of. These "paying" drivers are waiting to move up the ladder and eventually maybe make a dime off of racing. However it's HIGHLY unlikely to ever be in that spot, even F1 drivers bring funding to a team.

[matthewAPM]

lol at all this....

1.42.xxx (325is 200hp) > 1.46.xxx ("318" 500hp)

[RJ's325ITS]

lol at all this....

1.42.xxx (325is 200hp) > 1.46.xxx ("318" 500hp)

How about track conditions, or tires, or brakes, or P/W ratio, or how about the safety.....
Also what you do not know is that I was never WOT, or never used 50% of the potential of my car...

Also I wasn't going act like a child, and drive like a big shot in a group full of un-experience drivers, putting their life, their instructors, my instructor and my life in danger, b/c some child like you would callout my times in a forum like this.....

LOL


You're on top? I've raced as well.. < good for you...

You were the one that typed (not races)...... so I don't understand you either......



Now my point since the beginning was simple:

Some said "He thinks he is a pro race car driver and giving you a hard time. Good videos " (key word pro).

My point was/is that in this motor sport the definition of PRO is different than what that member might think. In a scene b/c you paid to drive a race car it doesn't make you a pro... or because you built one makes you one either.

Yeah someone has to invest money to go somewhere, like an engineer does paying tuition to a college, but paying the city or a company to give you a job is not how is done....

So just to be fair to this stupid argument, the tuition money will equal building the cars that will help put your name out there, or buying a seat for a couple of seasons.... but moving all the way to the top base on money is just buying your way into heaven....


My point is simple a PRO makes a living from racing, either on sponsorship income or other like a race shop, internet business etc.....

BTW here it is the definition of Professional:

a : participating for gain or livelihood in an activity or field of endeavor often engaged in by amateurs <a professional golfer> b : having a particular profession as a permanent career <a professional soldier> c : engaged in by persons receiving financial return <professional football>

[tdurr]

well i thought the vids were pretty cool. and i lol @ them thinking u cant drive. i could tell u never went over 45% throttle. reps to you for paying to play.

[Elbow]

How about track conditions, or tires, or brakes, or P/W ratio, or how about the safety.....
Also what you do not know is that I was never WOT, or never used 50% of the potential of my car...

Also I wasn't going act like a child, and drive like a big shot in a group full of un-experience drivers, putting their life, their instructors, my instructor and my life in danger, b/c some child like you would callout my times in a forum like this.....

LOL

< good for you...

You were the one that typed (not races)...... so I don't understand you either......



Now my point since the beginning was simple:

Some said "He thinks he is a pro race car driver and giving you a hard time. Good videos " (key word pro).

My point was/is that in this motor sport the definition of PRO is different than what that member might think. In a scene b/c you paid to drive a race car it doesn't make you a pro... or because you built one makes you one either.

Yeah someone has to invest money to go somewhere, like an engineer does paying tuition to a college, but paying the city or a company to give you a job is not how is done....

So just to be fair to this stupid argument, the tuition money will equal building the cars that will help put your name out there, or buying a seat for a couple of seasons.... but moving all the way to the top base on money is just buying your way into heaven....


My point is simple a PRO makes a living from racing, either on sponsorship income or other like a race shop, internet business etc.....

BTW here it is the definition of Professional:

a : participating for gain or livelihood in an activity or field of endeavor often engaged in by amateurs <a professional golfer> b : having a particular profession as a permanent career <a professional soldier> c : engaged in by persons receiving financial return <professional football>

When I said not races I meant I've been given opportunities to test/drive cars that usually would cost money to for other drivers and I was given the opportunity for free. I meant I didn't get any free race opportunities outside of karting.

Ok I see what you're saying now and you still don't have any clue what you're talking about.

When someone PAYS to race, like I said, it's usually sponsor money, it's not coming from their pocket. Example, sponsor gives me $5k for a season in something, I find a team, we discuss options, I give them $5k for the season, I find another sponsor, they give me $2k for driver only sponsorship, that money can go right in my pocket. Did I lose a dime? Nope. I am racing off of one sponsor and making a small profit off of another. THAT is what MANY drivers do, if you think otherwise you're HIGHLY mistaken.

The lala land of being "found" from racing karts or club racing is nearly unheard of. EVERYONE pays to get to heaven in motorsport.

There IS a difference in those drivers and drivers who just pay to race without making a profit, THOSE are not professional drivers YET, but MOST professional drivers came from there. This IS how it works. I have no clue who told you otherwise but go to any large pro race and talk to drivers and teams, they will tell you exactly what I just tried to explain to you. There aren't many drivers out there who get paid directly from the team, sponsors, etc. Those are top of the line real professional drivers and that's a HARD nearly impossible job to obtain, even if you're as good as Michael Schumacher I PROMISE you will spend LOADS of money to get there.



well i thought the vids were pretty cool. and i lol @ them thinking u cant drive. i could tell u never went over 45% throttle. reps to you for paying to play.

Who are you talking to? I take it English wasn't a good class for you? Do you see anyone saying he can't drive? Sure Matt mentioned he ran a lot quicker in his 325IS, but I'm just speaking of motorsport drivers. Don't come in here and act like this is an e-thuggish thread. Anyone can tell he wasn't going full throttle. That means NOTHING though.

[RJ's325ITS]

Simon,

Dude do you read at all.... go check your buddys post again.....

allow me to quote him, and explain


lol at all this....

1.42.xxx (325is 200hp) > 1.46.xxx ("318" 500hp)

Do you notice the symbol.... or did you skip math class too.......... now it makes sense all this "you don't know what you talking about BS of you"....

I have dealt with BBS, and Toyo tires for sponsorship, and also knowv about nexxen famous contracts goes..... So allow me to ask you what car did you drive for a race season for $3,000 ???????????????...........

[Elbow]

Simon,

Dude do you read at all.... go check your buddys post again.....

allow me to quote him, and explain



Do you notice the symbol.... or did you skip math class too.......... now it makes sense all this "you don't know what you talking about BS of you"....

I have dealt with BBS, and Toyo tires for sponsorship, and also knowv about nexxen famous contract's goes..... So allow me to ask you what car did you drive for a race season for $3,000 ???????????????...........

Don't cry to me what HE said. You and I are just discussing racing and drivers.

It was an example I didn't race anything for 3k a season I was giving you numbers as an example. However I did make a profit off of doing track days one year. lol

That's great you dealt with them for sponsorship...and what did they do for you? What series did they sponsor you for? Toyo is easy BBS not so much. Nexxen famous contracts?

You're the one starting to act like a douche, I'm trying to have a civil conversation and inform you on things you don't have a clue about, but you want to continue acting superior and driving your little BMW slow in HPDEs be my guest, when won't there be people to hurt on the race track? What are you hoping to get to?

[RJ's325ITS]

First I ask you not to troll my thread, and you say I'm not..... then you got the whole thread off topic...

And to be honest with you I rather for you to delete all your post that are not related to the topic of this thread.....

I really DO NOT want to have a chat with you on how to finance you in motorsports, or how you have been doing things that got you this far...... Or my perspective in Motorsports finances....

If you want to do so, go start a thread and discuss it with the world...... but leave this thread alone, and if you want to post in it at least stay on topic..

[RJ's325ITS]

Don't cry to me what HE said..

Not crying here at all, just correcting you in regards to your friends comments....


You and I are just discussing racing and drivers.


We are not, I replied to someone else and you felt so compel to correct me and trash my thread that didn't even take the time to read anything I said b4 or after....



That's great you dealt with them for sponsorship...and what did they do for you? What series did they sponsor you for? Toyo is easy BBS not so much. Nexxen famous contracts?

I was going to be a driver for a 2 drift/team attack team that my friends was putting together (RIP), so I know what goes down when you sign those contracts; that's it.


you want to continue acting superior and driving your little BMW slow in HPDEs be my guest, when won't there be people to hurt on the race track? What are you hoping to get to?

Superior!!! Why? b/c we disagree....

Superior!!! Why? b/c I respect & value the life of others.....

Did you even read the OP?????? b4 you say


when won't there be people to hurt on the race track? What are you hoping to get to?

I wonder what the BMWCCA or any club will say when they see what kind of mentality you carry on a HPDE?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!?!?!

And I will make sure of taking my little BMW as slow as I think is necessary to keep me and others safe on the track......:yes:

[MongolPup]

Okay, what is going on in this thread? Discussion and critiquing is welcomed and encouraged as long as it is productive and goes somewhere civil. Everyone needs to watch their proverbial mouths and remember that just because you think it was insulting doesn't mean it is and just because someone got to where you are a different way doesn't mean he doesn't deserve to be there.

Get your mind right, play nice and if you don't have something on-topic to say and just want to show off your e-peen, KEEP IT TO YOURSELF.

[Elbow]

I'm just having a discussion on paid and paying drivers trying to help him understand some.

[matthewAPM]

How about track conditions, or tires, or brakes, or P/W ratio, or how about the safety.....
Also what you do not know is that I was never WOT, or never used 50% of the potential of my car...

Also I wasn't going act like a child, and drive like a big shot in a group full of un-experience drivers, putting their life, their instructors, my instructor and my life in danger, b/c some child like you would callout my times in a forum like this.....

LOL



My track conditions....cool and clear. Tires where 245 RE-01R on 17x8.5 Kosei K1, brakes were hawk HT10 on 325is stock brakes. As for safety, rollbar, harnesses, seat. And i dont wanna hear anything about p/w b.c you make more than double my power.

If you cant drive flat out on a trackday then you should go to another organization. I mean if i was only wanting to drive half ass then i would do parade laps. Either way, more car, slower times. sounds like someone is lacking in something...

[RJ's325ITS]

All I hear is blah blah I go balls out in my 325, blah blah blah blah I'm better than you.....

I know what my car is capable of, and like I said I was not pushing the car, I know a
full blown M3 racecar on Hoosiers can do 1:30 at RA, I also know that your 325 on bossier's might do a 1:38, so I know what my car could do at RA...

So why don't you sign up for roebling, and stop the BS; I'll be in group B hoping to share the track with some faster cars like your 325 LOL



My track conditions....cool and clear. Tires where 245 RE-01R on 17x8.5 Kosei K1, brakes were hawk HT10 on 325is stock brakes. As for safety, rollbar, harnesses, seat. And i dont wanna hear anything about p/w b.c you make more than double my power.

If you cant drive flat out on a trackday then you should go to another organization. I mean if i was only wanting to drive half ass then i would do parade laps. Either way, more car, slower times. sounds like someone is lacking in something...

[RJ's325ITS]

Upppsssssss I forgot that you had to sell the 325, you can bring whatever but if you bring the all mighty ITA CRX I promise I won't take it out of 5th gear... ;)

[Elbow]

Upppsssssss I forgot that you had to sell the 325, you can bring whatever but if you bring the all mighty ITA CRX I promise I won't take it out of 5th gear... ;)

If he HAD an ITA CRX (wherever you got that from) he'd whoop ass even more probably. lol The ITA track record at RA is a 1:42.054 set by a CRX. :doh:

Sorry but it's not what the CAR is capable of, that's a STUPID statement, it's what the driver can do. An insanely fast car is nothing without a driver with balls and skill. A slower run group doesn't mean slow cars, some noobs actually drive fast.

[RJ's325ITS]

If he HAD an ITA CRX (wherever you got that from) he'd whoop ass even more probably. lol The ITA track record at RA is a 1:42.054 set by a CRX. :doh:

Well, he might have been buying his seat :lmfao:, according with him and his sig in IT forum........:goodjob:

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b103/rafaelnos/Personal/Forum%20Pics/forum.jpg


Sorry but it's not what the CAR is capable of, that's a STUPID statement, it's what the driver can do. An insanely fast car is nothing without a driver with balls and skill. A slower run group doesn't mean slow cars, some noobs actually drive fast.

I'm getting really frustrated with you all, It's like talking to monkeys.... Let's try this for the last time..

"I WAS" in a group full of "NOOBS", and I was still passing everyone in group D, in some spots I reached the limit on the all season tires I had that day in group "D".

I could've gone faster on the straights but I decided not to. AGAIN being SAFE....

For the second day I was around of some driver that were less of a "NOOB" in group "C", and with some better tires I was going faster around the turns, but I was still going slow in the straights (135) to keep it SAFE.

So.....

Once I get to a group with no NOOBS around the "PROS", I will go faster then since I'm around people that know better.... People in group "A" or "I" should know what to do when they see me coming in fast, and it WILL NOT take 1/2 of lap to get a point by.

Why dont you come to Roebling, and we see wasup! :goodjob:

[Elbow]

When is Roebling? We wouldn't even be in the same group so what's the point?

By looking at the video you posted you didn't seem comfortable or really on top of the car, which is fine we all start somewhere, but then you start giving excuses versus taking criticism and come off as a douche, I have no problem with you, I don't know you, but I'd like good relationships with IA people who share the love for the same sport as me.

[RJ's325ITS]

June 25-27, we can do lap-times base on video, or you can request to be place in B... All I know is that there are many factors that alter the result, it's not fast car + track day = fast lap.... I will go faster when I feel safe and have the right setup (brakes, tires, solo, good drivers around me). no major excuses here, it is what it is, nothing more than a DE in the lowest groups..

[Elbow]

June 25-27, we can do lap-times base on video, or you can request to be place in B... All I know is that there are many factors that alter the result, it's not fast car + track day = fast lap.... I will go faster when I feel safe and have the right setup (brakes, tires, solo, good drivers around me). no major excuses here, it is what it is, nothing more than a DE in the lowest groups..

Well unless I'm using your car I don't have a car right now to use. lol I'll be in Ohio then I think. Come to the next RA event, do Chin or a more hardcore group.

[RJ's325ITS]

I'm game for Roebling, and RA in September 10-12; what do you mean hardcore? Miata cup hardcore LOL never in my car, maybe in my ITS car when I finish it.

[Elbow]

I'm game for Roebling, and RA in September 10-12; what do you mean hardcore? Miata cup hardcore LOL never in my car, maybe in my ITS car when I finish it.

Miata cup hardcore? :thinking::thinking::thinking::thinking: Huh???

You won't even go balls out in a ITS car? What's the point then? lol

Are you going to the double school in Feb. or another route?

[RJ's325ITS]

I meant spec miata...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rm__88baUyI&sns=em

[Elbow]

Ahhh yeah, Spec Miata is the shit, I miss my Miata.

[matthewAPM]

HAHAHA! I havent been on the IT forum in idk how long. That is why it says ITA..2009 as in to come.

Talk shit all you want, b.c im going to keep on talking mine. Sorry you lack in driving ability and feel the need to have a super fast car to make up for it...

[RedEj8]

Nice vids man. Car sounds awesome. Very cool!

[RJ's325ITS]

HAHAHA! I havent been on the IT forum in idk how long. That is why it says ITA..2009 as in to come.

Talk shit all you want, b.c im going to keep on talking mine. Sorry you lack in driving ability and feel the need to have a super fast car to make up for it...

Dont hate on the super fast car, coz there are tons of faster cars out there.....

I'm not talking smack, I'm just staying the facts... weather your like/share them or not is your problem; stop the BS man and bring a car down to RRR and show me how it's done.... simple!

[RJ's325ITS]

Nice vids man. Car sounds aweome. Very cool!

thanks man.

[cwhiteboy]

Good vids, nice car! Would love to see one with you pushing it a little. The few times you did lay into the throttle a little, your car picked up some crazy speed, very nice man. I bet your car is a blast to drive.