Spin No Start

[NEMO]

1995 Acura Integra 5 speed p75 ecu

will we are stumped at this point. car has compression, fire, and fuel.

when the problem started:
distributor locked up. replaced the distributor with new coil, button, icm, and cap. spins no start

fuel pump is kicking on. plugs are firing(blue spark)

took another running 1995 Acura Integra 5 speed and swapped the distributor, plugs, plug wires, and ecu same problem.

checked the harness everything is plugged up.

we need help at this point.

[Formally...]

Did you do a compression test and if so what were the numbers. Have you checked the timing belt to make sure cams and crank are in time? Sounds like you have all three (compression, fuel, spark) just not at the right time. Also, have you checked for injector pulse?

[NEMO]

Did you do a compression test and if so what were the numbers. Have you checked the timing belt to make sure cams and crank are in time? Sounds like you have all three (compression, fuel, spark) just not at the right time. Also, have you checked for injector pulse?
haven't done a compression test. the timing looks like it might be off a tooth or 2 but the shouldn't cause it not to start right?

going the get the noid tester from the shop tonight and check the injector pulse. that is our next step

[tnomud]

haven't done a compression test. the timing looks like it might be off a tooth or 2 but the shouldn't cause it not to start right?

going the get the noid tester from the shop tonight and check the injector pulse. that is our next step


NOOO!!! a tooth or two off can keep it from starting, especially if the distributor is not 100% on the money. Go check that part. 95% of my failed "first starts" are usually timing related.

[blown_ss]

dude im having this same problem with my 95 integra.

[NEMO]

dude im having this same problem with my 95 integra.
have you tried the coil? i know honda was having a problem with the coils going bad so thats what we thought it was at first.

[bam-bam]

Did you do a compression test and if so what were the numbers. Have you checked the timing belt to make sure cams and crank are in time? Sounds like you have all three (compression, fuel, spark) just not at the right time. Also, have you checked for injector pulse?

what he said. check timing.

[tnomud]

FWIW: those internal coils suck> I think most Advance Auto stores carry the dist. cap with the 5th terminal to convert it to a standard Accel or MSD unit used on about everything.

[Barefoot]

Did you do a compression test and if so what were the numbers. Have you checked the timing belt to make sure cams and crank are in time? Sounds like you have all three (compression, fuel, spark) just not at the right time. Also, have you checked for injector pulse?:goodjob::goodjob::goodjob: i concur

[NEMO]

:goodjob::goodjob::goodjob: i concurso our next step is to fix the timing and checked the injector pulse.

[blown_ss]

have you tried the coil? i know honda was having a problem with the coils going bad so thats what we thought it was at first.

just got a brand new coil from oreilys (sp). all i get are pops from the exhaust like its wanting to start but it wont. im getting gas and spark but no start. when you figure yours out let me know.

[SLow_POke]

just got a brand new coil from oreilys (sp). all i get are pops from the exhaust like its wanting to start but it wont. im getting gas and spark but no start. when you figure yours out let me know.


Check yoru firing order. sometimes the simplist things we over look.

[NEMO]

NOOO!!! a tooth or two off can keep it from starting, especially if the distributor is not 100% on the money. Go check that part. 95% of my failed "first starts" are usually timing related.
we left the distributor loose and rotated it back and forth and still nothing. i've had a engine that was off a tooth before and it still started just didnt run right.


just got a brand new coil from oreilys (sp). all i get are pops from the exhaust like its wanting to start but it wont. im getting gas and spark but no start. when you figure yours out let me know.
we are not ever getting any popping. just turning over. doesnt even sound like its trying to fire. no backfiring or smoke

[NEMO]

Check yoru firing order. sometimes the simplist things we over look.
yeah i was going to say this also for blown ss to check. that was one of the first thing we checked on ours

[blown_ss]

Check yoru firing order. sometimes the simplist things we over look.

i have the right firing order, i've looked it up many times to make sure.

[blown_ss]

we left the distributor loose and rotated it back and forth and still nothing. i've had a engine that was off a tooth before and it still started just didnt run right.


we are not ever getting any popping. just turning over. doesnt even sound like its trying to fire. no backfiring or smoke

yeah i wasnt getting the pops and then i bought a new coil and started getting them. it seems like there is something so small that is holding me back.

[SLow_POke]

If your getting "pops" from the exhaust, its miss firing or firing at the wrong order.. well If i understand it right.

other then that. It happen to a buddy of mine. trying to set the firing order from a SOHC to a B16. had him baffleld for about 2 hours.


I guess if all else fails OP, Try a buddies set of wires. you might be getting a spark but not strong enough.

[blown_ss]

If your getting "pops" from the exhaust, its miss firing or firing at the wrong order.. well If i understand it right.

other then that. It happen to a buddy of mine. trying to set the firing order from a SOHC to a B16. had him baffleld for about 2 hours.


I guess if all else fails OP, Try a buddies set of wires. you might be getting a spark but not strong enough.

i followed the book that i have for the car and googled it. i thought that could be it but i have looked it up.

[NEMO]

If your getting "pops" from the exhaust, its miss firing or firing at the wrong order.. well If i understand it right.

other then that. It happen to a buddy of mine. trying to set the firing order from a SOHC to a B16. had him baffleld for about 2 hours.


I guess if all else fails OP, Try a buddies set of wires. you might be getting a spark but not strong enough.
yeah already tried this also

[tnomud]

it sounds silly, but did you check the wiring at the internal coil and that dumb little plug on the dizzy?

[SLow_POke]

well DAmn. lol.....


those are the things i would check .

Ignition
Compression
Fuel.
If its all there then in your case the Timing and firing order.

Im all out of Ideas. :P/ GL if u ever fix it keep us posted.

[blown_ss]

it sounds silly, but did you check the wiring at the internal coil and that dumb little plug on the dizzy?


:thinking: explain

[tnomud]

:thinking: explain

-there the wires pass though the housing, can get pinched.
-Where this harness grounds/mounts the coil


http://home.comcast.net/~jrutski/dist/assy.jpg

http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/1554/dizzy.jpg

[Turbodude06]

Nemo after trying to start it for awhile which I bet you have been doing, are your plugs just full of gas? I'd check them to make sure all you injectors are working..... Have you seen this motor run yet, like in a previous car or something????

[blown_ss]

-there the wires pass though the housing, can get pinched.
-Where this harness grounds/mounts the coil


http://home.comcast.net/~jrutski/dist/assy.jpg

http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/1554/dizzy.jpg

oh i got it. just wasnt sure what you meant.

[tnomud]

oh i got it. just wasnt sure what you meant.

I am at work............I take shortcuts and use poor verbage to save time :rolleyes::(

[NEMO]

Nemo after trying to start it for awhile which I bet you have been doing, are your plugs just full of gas? I'd check them to make sure all you injectors are working..... Have you seen this motor run yet, like in a previous car or something????
yes plugs are wet. yes car has ran before

[Turbodude06]

yes plugs are wet. yes car has ran before

ok, then if you got air, fuel, and spark, then it must be timing or possible the ecu....

[NEMO]

ok, then if you got air, fuel, and spark, then it must be timing or possible the ecu....
swap an ecu from a running Integra. so it looks like its coming down to timing

[Turbodude06]

swap an ecu from a running Integra. so it looks like its coming down to timing

Yea so that should be it, if not GOOD LUCK!!!:yes:

[blown_ss]

you got this figured out yet?

[NEMO]

you got this figured out yet?no wont be able to look at it until tonight

[blown_ss]

no wont be able to look at it until tonight

lol yeah me either just wondering if you did.

[tnomud]

it's funny, I think some fail to realize that most peeps here have like............jobs and stuff....

[NEMO]

well my buddy started checking it out tonight. just the injectors with a noid tester and they was good.

set it to TDC and found the the intake cam was off 2 to 3 teeth. reset the timing and it fired right up.

thanks for all the help

[SLow_POke]

bingo ;)