Brother vs brother

[1EVILZ]

My brother has a fully gutted 92-95 Civic Hatch and i mean gutted. He doesn't even have the dash pad in the car anymore, just the gauge cluster attached to the dash beam, one seat, no other int. pieces at all, no bumper supports, no ac and fixing to remove the heat. His mods are a b18b, si trans(shorter gearing vs the stock ls teg tranny), intake, header and exhaust. I think the car just barely weighs in over 2k without him.

Vs my full int. and leather with power everything. Mods include intake, or xpipe, slp mufflers and 3.73's...

A 05 Monte Carlo SS with a ls4 tuned with exhaust was the camera car. It dynoed 267/309.


dig run

http://www.youtube.com/user/TORKSTEE.../1/XuWD-Wqmx3g (http://www.youtube.com/user/TORKSTEER#p/a/u/1/XuWD-Wqmx3g)

roll run
http://www.youtube.com/user/TORKSTEE.../0/YpZxyUEOi1k (http://www.youtube.com/user/TORKSTEER#p/a/u/0/YpZxyUEOi1k)

[thundercatz1]

Good runs:goodjob: reps

[PURP]

Okay.... you beat a non vtec civic... Who hasn't?

I'm suprised you didn't beat him by more than what you did... Were you shifting early and slowly?

[WhiteAccord]

Not only that. But the guy was swerving left and right... Gj on beating once again a non vtec civic.

[AnthonyF]

Put the camera in one of the cars running next time.

Hey, I say a Kill is a kill.

-Ant.

[Nemesis]

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I'm suprised you didn't beat him by more than what you did... Were you shifting early and slowly?

Maybe im watching a different video but he looks like he pulled pretty damn good on him. Considering he didnt have traction in the beginning of the runs.




I dunno, like omgz if it had the vtacckkk it woulda been difrferent y000,


dont be gay. lol

[1EVILZ]

That non vtec civic runs 14.5's as it sits. The cobra needs a good tune and some better tires. From a roll it's no contest. The launch on the dig run was at 1500rpms on crappy tires. Besides it's a n/a 4v car that weighs 3500lbs with me in it.

[Turbodude06]

Maybe im watching a different video but he looks like he pulled pretty damn good on him. Considering he didnt have traction in the beginning of the runs.




I dunno, like omgz if it had the vtacckkk it woulda been difrferent y000,


dont be gay. lol


X2^... Vtec is like WARP speed to everyone:lmfao:... Nice kill that was a pretty far race....

[1EVILZ]

My brother wanted to see the difference in his car n/a now and with 8psi in 2 weeks!

[Turbodude06]

My brother wanted to see the difference in his car n/a now and with 8psi in 2 weeks!

Oh he's goin to spank u:idb: If he tunes it.....

[Nemesis]

but if he runs it untuned, he has an excuse as to why he lost lolol

[Turbodude06]

:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:

Untuned thread.......
http://www.importatlanta.com/forums/showthread.php?t=278301

[thundercatz1]

lol

[1EVILZ]

If he beats me after he turbos it, no big deal. I know i still have a bunch of bolt ons to do and either fi or a bottle.

[HillClimbGuy]

gutted really that is so 2007

[1EVILZ]

Lol , not a dd so he doesn't care. Lol

[Whiteboy572]

Ouch! I saw your post over on MCE but didnt watch it. Put some gas on it and dont tell him about it :ninja:

Ill see if my brother will run me for fun and we can video it. Its a 2009 stage 1 cobalt ss/turbo vs a 2001 Z06 with a good bit of stuff done :D

[1EVILZ]

That would be pretty much the same outcome as mine from the roll there whiteboy. LOL Not even close.

Got a friend now i'm trying to pick a kit up from for cheap!

[Turbodude06]

That would be pretty much the same outcome as mine from the roll there whiteboy. LOL Not even close.

Got a friend now i'm trying to pick a kit up from for cheap!



That will piss him off, he turbo's his then u guys race and u still beat him:lmfao:....

[BABY J]

I'll run that Cobra in my non-vtec Civic and spank it. Full weight.

[Nemesis]

I'll run that Cobra in my non-vtec Civic and spank it. Full weight.

OH SHITTTTTTTTT CALLLL OUTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

[1EVILZ]

LOl babyJ.. The only reason i raced him was to let him see where he stands! What does yout non-vtec civic run at the drag strip or has it ever even seen a drag strip?

[BABY J]

It has gone high 13s on decent rubber (borrowed BFG KDWs). Other than that it has never been on a DR or slick. It has gone 14.1 on the budget Firestone tires I have on it right now. B18B in a 91 Civic Wagon - full weight. You game?

[1EVILZ]

Where are you located and we might can set something up. 91 wagon= great sleeper!

[BABY J]

West Cobb - (Powder Springs area). We can set something up whenever you're ready.

[1EVILZ]

Sorry bro , i just mapquested it and running you isn't worth a hour and a half drive to me. no offense.

[BABY J]

Understood. So let's run for $500. That way it's worth our time. There's some good roads this side of the forest that I know of (AL side).

[ueyedgr8tness]

Okay.... you beat a non vtec civic... Who hasn't?

I'm suprised you didn't beat him by more than what you did... Were you shifting early and slowly?


:thinking:What shi* u smokin on? I no plenty of none vtec civics that will walkout,not to mention i would put my $ on the civic if he puts some boost on it 8lbs>cobra

[1EVILZ]

Sorry bro, if you want to run for money you are talking to the wrong person. I do this for fun, not for money. To many variables can happen in a money run..ie; sandbagging or missing a shift. Thanks!

[BABY J]

Sorry bro, if you want to run for money you are talking to the wrong person. I do this for fun, not for money. To many variables can happen in a money run..ie; sandbagging or missing a shift. Thanks!

I totally understand kind sir. I don't run people dirty - but I know lots that will run you dirty, so that's understandable. Thanx for keeping it a civil grown-man style callout/response. Kids haven't learned that yet on this forum. Maybe we'll meet at a trackday or something. Nice runs with your brother!!!:goodjob:

[Nemesis]

Understood. So let's run for $500.

Deal. Im all in.



We'll give the pot to chouston cause hes too slow to make away with money.

[1EVILZ]

No problem man, i'm to old for all the drama that some kids start these days. LOL

Hopefully in a few weeks i'll have the vids of him beating me on 8psi. LOL

[1EVILZ]

If you ever head to steele or mmp. Shoot me a pm and i'll see if i'm off work!

[BABY J]

Deal. Im all in.

We'll give the pot to chouston cause hes too slow to make away with money.

LOL

[NEMO]

Deal. Im all in.



We'll give the pot to chouston cause hes too slow to make away with money.:lmfao:

[tdurr]

Deal. Im all in.



We'll give the pot to chouston cause hes too slow to make away with money.

once i spread some reps ill give u some more.

[DSGMach1]

I totally understand kind sir. I don't run people dirty - but I know lots that will run you dirty, so that's understandable. Thanx for keeping it a civil grown-man style callout/response. Kids haven't learned that yet on this forum. Maybe we'll meet at a trackday or something. Nice runs with your brother!!!:goodjob:

Is that the civic you raced my Mach 1 in griffin with? Def. was a sleeper. Baby j is def a straight forward guy. Prob my favorite race cause you don't seem to care about winning or the money as much as you just seemed like you really enjoy racing regardless of what your running.

[BABY J]

^^ Yes. When we ran it was a stock block (+ 50 shot wet) on an LS gearbox with no LSD. I now have a built motor - proper gearing (with LSD) and a whole lot more nitrous. LOL

That was a fun night - anymore additions to the Mach??

Thanx for the props - I try to be a stand-up guy. I am 31 years old so the days where I was grimy and there was nothing more important than a win/race wasSOOOO 15 years ago. I was a force from the time when I was 16 - 21. I miss the fun that I had but I don't miss being that guy. People take the fun out of these days --- I can get my kicks by keeping my old ass at home and letting the kids have it. :)

[southside]

How the hell do yall race in Anniston I know the Hwy is fucked up coming through there.And roll racings a four cylinder FTL!Digs is where its at.

[Nemesis]

Babygay we need to get another Eastside run meet going on lol

[BABY J]

How the hell do yall race in Anniston I know the Hwy is fucked up coming through there.And roll racings a four cylinder FTL!Digs is where its at.

There are some good roads off of i20 on both sides of the forest in Anniston/Oxford. You have to get out in the county which is only a few miles from 20. I ran a few srts down there late last year and took their fuckin' lunch money. LOL


Babygay we need to get another Eastside run meet going on lol

I'll be ready when it warms up!

[Nemesis]

I'll be ready when it warms up!

Ill have to dust off the Cougar so she can run the show again lulz

[1EVILZ]

The runs in the video was on a road right off of i20. The interstate sucks right around here. There is a 4 lane hway that was paved the last few years that works great for dig or roll runs.

[whatever210]

oh no! please dont race a vtec motor. youll get your ass whoped lol vtec gay. boost is better

[DSGMach1]

^^ Yes. When we ran it was a stock block (+ 50 shot wet) on an LS gearbox with no LSD. I now have a built motor - proper gearing (with LSD) and a whole lot more nitrous. LOL

That was a fun night - anymore additions to the Mach??

Thanx for the props - I try to be a stand-up guy. I am 31 years old so the days where I was grimy and there was nothing more important than a win/race wasSOOOO 15 years ago. I was a force from the time when I was 16 - 21. I miss the fun that I had but I don't miss being that guy. People take the fun out of these days --- I can get my kicks by keeping my old ass at home and letting the kids have it. :)

Only thing since then is Kooks long tubes with matching o/r x and a jlt intake. Waiting to get it tuned and some gears one of these days.

[1EVILZ]

some long tubes, tb, full intake(just have the piece for the fender w/filter), tune and some dr's next for me.

[DSGMach1]

some long tubes, tb, full intake(just have the piece for the fender w/filter), tune and some dr's next for me.

A bigger tb isn't needed. The oem tb flows very well for most all n/a applications. Nothing is gained from a tb with a bolt on motor. There are better places to put that money. Steeper gears are a very good addition for those years because with the head design they make good power but its all high in the rpm's so 4.10's are one of the best mods for 4v's. Using some of the online calculators you can see that at 80mph you would still be under 3000rpm. Long tubes and a tune will be good additions. Keep in mind many of the cheaper long tubes, Mac/BBK, you will have to remove the passenger side header to pull the trans if you ever needed that. I've heard hooker makes some that don't require that. Kooks will def. let you pull the trans but then your getting into the $$$.
Tons of info. out there in other forums.

[1EVILZ]

Thanks for the info on the Tb! I was looking at some 4.30's for the rear, but i plan on boosting it in the long run so i'm going to keep the 3.73's in it. As far as headers, i've seen good results for the bbk, mac and the slp headers. My next purchase will be a sct tuner though.

[DSGMach1]

Thanks for the info on the Tb! I was looking at some 4.30's for the rear, but i plan on boosting it in the long run so i'm going to keep the 3.73's in it. As far as headers, i've seen good results for the bbk, mac and the slp headers. My next purchase will be a sct tuner though.

The bbl will give good results but a lot of ppl don't know about not being able to pull the trans. You looking at supercharging or turbo?

[1EVILZ]

Haven't decided on vortech or a tt setup yet.

[1EVILZ]

After all this talk about gears, i hit up a calculator to figure out what mph and rpm i would be at with another gear. I found out, i don't have 3.73's but the stock gear. Inless the speedo is damn near 10mph at 70.....

[DSGMach1]

If the speedo isn't calibrated then it could be off. Best way to tell is jack up the rear of the car and count how many times the driveshaft spins for 1 rotation of the wheel. Should be fairly easy to tell if it turns 3 3/4 times or 3 1/4 times.
On my old 96 I did 3.73's without calibrating the speedo and it was about 10-15 mph off.

[boosted347]

yea in a ford 8.8 on a t5 its about 10-13 off with 3.73s and a TB does make a difference in fwhp difference between a 75mm tb and 90mm tb is 14 hp and 12 tq on a pushrod 331 stroker...just so you know. And evilZ in all honesty you can make a single 66mm turbo more efficient than a tt

[1EVILZ]

I hope you ment, rwhp there boosted. LOL... We'll see how the boost route goes, when i get ready..

Dsg... that was my next plan of action for sat. when i'm off work.

[boosted347]

ha actually flywheel hp lol should have just put hp but o well lol and im in the process of my 347 turbo build ridin around now with turbo 302...and gears make all the difference in the world

[DSGMach1]

yea in a ford 8.8 on a t5 its about 10-13 off with 3.73s and a TB does make a difference in fwhp difference between a 75mm tb and 90mm tb is 14 hp and 12 tq on a pushrod 331 stroker...just so you know. And evilZ in all honesty you can make a single 66mm turbo more efficient than a tt

Two totally different things. A stock bore/stroke bolt on n/a cobra won't make any more power. Stock on those cobra's is a dual 57mm t/b. So unless you are running some good amount of boost the stock one is all you need.

[boosted347]

yea i pointed out it was pushrod 331 for that reason lol im a pushrod guy not to much in the modular but i was saying with other things done a TB does make a slight difference

[greasemunkey]

West Cobb - (Powder Springs area). We can set something up whenever you're ready.

What part of P-town i stay right by powdersprings and Hurt rd.

[BABY J]

I'm off of Lost Moutain