this is what happens if you don't change your oil.

[True Pyroman]

link.

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1281659


Okay...those of you following this saga...know the story....but the guy I am helping out (tps7c) waited 40k in between oil changes...so we decided to do his VANOS to see what the damage is.....The below is what we have, and I am speechless....I need help....I need my mommy.

Seriously though...I think we are going to remove as much as we can....do the VANOS job and let some Auto RX remove the sludge...hopefully.

My question is...at this point should we worry about trying to remove all of the visible sludge?

Oh yeah...actually 60k...I had to beat the truth outta him...lol

Looking for ideas and not smart ass comments...Toms a good guy...and is learning a valuable lesson....lol





Whats better than one Bimmer at the Wilson's.....Two!!!
http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/2382/dsc00851m.jpg
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http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/9883/dsc00858w.jpg
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[Whiteboy572]

I work at toyota and had to explain to a woman that the owners manual does NOT say your oil needs to be changed every 30,000 miles but every 3,000 miles.... Ignant people...

[MR2DR]

holy shit at the second picture.
so that's what 60k miles between oil changes does..

[DecoyOctopus]

why the fuck did he wait that long? he shouldnt own a car

[UpSideDownDesi]

lol that's gonna take some time.

[RUFFIAN]

:police:I am truly speachless:eek::cry::no:

[teh_mugen18]

he should pour some sand into the gas tank to make it port the head, so he can make more horsepowahh, whenever he gets done cleaning that mess out :goodjob:

[EL42]

i refuse to believe what i saw...nope..even wit pics. this didn't happen. but seriously a tear down is gonna be necessary.

[MidLifeCrisis]

I've seen waaaay worse. Literally pulled a VC off and the buildup was like it was baked into a mold the shape of the VC.

[Sol-Badguy]

WOW

[DVSRX-7]

LOL!

[MR2DR]

I've seen waaaay worse. Literally pulled a VC off and the buildup was like it was baked into a mold the shape of the VC.

I kind of want to see that. like chocolate pudding.. :D

[chriskm]

Looks like you visit entensity.net :P
I almost pissed myself when I saw it.

[cm7k24]

holy shit.

[JITB]

looks like a pullapart motor...lol

[PURP]

looks like a pullapart motor...lol

bwahaha... so true...

I just changed the oil in my bimmer, but know this makes me want to go pull the VC's to see what is under there.

[Drummerboy]

I don't feel as bad about being 1,000 miles passed on my truck, lol.

[tnomud]

my old Land Rover (when I bought it) WITH ONLY 40K MILES!!!

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f296/tnomud/2e3a7963.jpg
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f296/tnomud/46b5ab92.jpg

[swollix]

Here was mine at 124k miles...

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3557/3380958286_b897663883_o.jpg

[DeeAOne]

oh wow...thats something you dont see everyday.

[EJdm]

so thats what it is lol....i opened up my buddy b20 VC and saw something like this but not as bad...threw a bottle of sea form drove it for 30 miles flushed it out and put new better oil...he was using that cheap chevron or shell motor oil lol i force him to get gastrol full syn...

[1990wade]

MAN THAT SHITS CARZY AS HELL...



THINK WIT YER DIPSTICK JIMMY

[G.C]

cocdam

[tnomud]

Here was mine at 124k miles...

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3557/3380958286_b897663883_o.jpg


That's how they should look. :goodjob:
My Big Block in my truck has had Synthetic since day 1 and it shows.:bump:

[gotvtec.]

You could try kerosene. Pull all the plugs and fuel lines and spin the motor over while you run kerosene through it. Should take most of the sludge right out.

[tnomud]

just grab a giant box of Tide and a fire hose

[91LudeSiT]

Here was mine at 124k miles...

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3557/3380958286_b897663883_o.jpg

What kind of oil are you using? I am running Mobil 1 religiously changed at 3k, but I don't think my shit is gonna look like that @ 124k.

[bloodline]

to op...holy crap...someone sure didnt care

[EL42]

THINK WIT YER DIPSTICK JIMMY
:lmfao: perfect

[Genji-Sama]

OMFG, yeah, that's quite the lesson to learn.

[Theycall_Metue]

some crazy shitz, was that thing still running when it came in the shop?

[Oz10]

Goodbye drivers license, hello bus pass!!

[MR.EM1]

what sludge?

[alpine_aw11]

God damnit. The guy who owned my car before me was a retard and I have to change my VC gasket soon. I don't even want to know what I'm gonna see.

[Patterson]

I've seen waaaay worse. Literally pulled a VC off and the buildup was like it was baked into a mold the shape of the VC.

X2 i worked a toyota for a while and have seen many 4 runners like that.








THINK WIT YER DIPSTICK JIMMY

:lmfao: reps

[takume]

speechless for sure.

[chuck]

wow, was this an experiment or did the guy just forget?? sounds like someone might need to lay off the bong.

[5speed]

I am about to cry...

[antiv6]

on the bright side he saved like 500 bucks on oil changes

[Mr Egg Rollllll]

http://www.dailyhaha.com/_pics/cannot_be_unseen.jpg

[all-mota]

a few quarts of oil and some tranny fluid should clean alot out and then he should drain a little oil out and pour some diesel into the crankcase and let it run and it will look new again

[roscoe]

Holy shit thats rediculous

[jdmdb8itr]

haha thats crazy

[jojeezek]

im gonna need therapy to get over the shock. that sludge will haunt me at night

[jdm eg99]

wowz gona need alot of work g/l

[collins]

on the bright side he saved like 500 bucks on oil changes

lol, never thought of it like that.

[FoolsDrifFWD]

http://www.seen-on-tv.ws/z-max-power-system/z-max-power-system.jpg

i know it works

http://www.themotorreport.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/carroll-shelby.jpg

[4eGv6o3]

That should totally be covered by the manufacturers powertrain warranty:screwy:

[swollix]

What kind of oil are you using? I am running Mobil 1 religiously changed at 3k, but I don't think my shit is gonna look like that @ 124k.

Royal Purple in the M3.

[98Teg_GSR]

Damn!

[green91]

Ive seen this many times too. Short trips (engine not running at full temp for a prolonged period) can also contribute to sludge buildup. The problem is not just the amount of sludge, but the fact that the engine has likely been oil starved.

[jnv255]

Looks like Genital warts on the second pic..

[green91]

Oh yeah, LOL at everyone thinking seafoam or a detergent lube will clean this sludge out. Ive had to rebuild several sludged motors. You can run the individual parts of a disassembled sludge motor through a professional parts washer and still end up having to manually scrape the sludge off. Theres no PFM in a bottle thats gonna remove this stuff.

[Brian*]

damn

[Elbow]

This is just what happens when you own a BMW, it fails.

[tnomud]

my old Land Rover (when I bought it) WITH ONLY 40K MILES!!!

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f296/tnomud/2e3a7963.jpg
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f296/tnomud/46b5ab92.jpg


This was after 3 or 4 flushes with ATF, Rotella, and Kerosene. It was so bad that oil would get up into the heads and not drain back down. Lifters would hold oil and not drain it out.

The end result was cam lobes wiped out, cylinder walls scored, oil pump shot, and just about everything related to oil was shot.

I had to bore, put in pistons, bearings, cam, lifters, pushrods, rocker arms, and a few other little things.

[tnomud]

Now, the oil I just removed from my 53 Chevy was on the other end of the spectrum. The car had been parked since 1974. It fired right up, but had a few carb issues. I had drove it for a few hundred miles ironing out the carb and a few other things. I changed the oil a few weeks back and it was like water. It also had 4 extra quarts, which was more than likely gas from the carb issue. This stuff smelled so bad I had to put it outside, it was stinking up the house from being in an attached garage.

[marcos713]

:eek::eek::eek: wow i thot me being 500miles behind was bad...

[Bus Driver J]

I've seen waaaay worse. Literally pulled a VC off and the buildup was like it was baked into a mold the shape of the VC.

x2, I have seen that too. I worked on a 140 chassis Benz with the V-12. The lady said she was "too busy to pull over" when it started overheating. She blew both head gaskets and cracked a head. When I pull the VC to inspect it, the crud (solid form) was the shape of the valve covers. Craziest thing Ive ever seen. Needless to say, she bought a junk yard engine and sold it 2 weeks later, lol.