SHOW CARS -VS-RACE CARS...

[BTEC]

Whats ur opinion on the two. Do u prefer a show car or race car and why?


If this is a repost shut up and answer it again!! :2up:
lol!!

[B16a2 Civic]

well....at first , i wanted to do all go...but i really didn't see how good that would do me unless i was at the track everyday, street raced, or liked gettin tickets for speeding...so now im show/sum go....so im stuck in between with thsi answer :(

[BTEC]

well....at first , i wanted to do all go...but i really didn't see how good that would do me unless i was at the track everyday, street raced, or liked gettin tickets for speeding...so now im show/sum go....so im stuck in between with thsi answer :(
cool. i was gonna do the show car thing but i came to my senses. i liek looking at show cars but the competition is pointless. ill hold my point until more ppl respond. i dnt knock show cars but i will never build one to compete in shows with.

[B16a2 Civic]

cool. i was gonna do the show car thing but i came to my senses. i liek looking at show cars but the competition is pointless. ill hold my point until more ppl respond. i dnt knock show cars but i will never build one to compete in shows with.


true, i actually dont even build it for shows...i just wanna build it to where i can look at it everyday and not snare cause i dont like the way it looks...and where people can reconize me around town...i just go to car shows for fun and hang out with my homies

[Nemesis]

Honestly, Id like to have both. I dont want a shitty looking car that runs 12s all day, yet I dont want a badass looking car that runs 18s all day either! I see a lot of show cars today and a lot of the things look stupid.

[Jon00]

race and show

[Nitro]

50/50 :cool:

[BTEC]

Honestly, Id like to have both. I dont want a shitty looking car that runs 12s all day, yet I dont want a badass looking car that runs 18s all day either! I see a lot of show cars today and a lot of the things look stupid.
im takling about the "if you gonna go, go all out cars". like the ndra cars have pimp paint jobs and straight bodys and the show cars have everythign u can think of at the time on and in them.

[mocha latte cupcake]

i tried both approaches.... the Silvia (all speed with some body work but no solid color so yeah only speed) and my Spec V (a few bolt ons but still not speedy but all show) I'm going to say i'd rather run 13's and look pretty....

[Tank]

nitrodon i was wondering how fast is your cars any dyno or track times and as for me 50/50 i like my ride looking pimp but i also like to run my car so im with both

[Brett]

I am more into the show side, I love car shows and talkin to people at these events. I am not really into the "go" side but I do respect cars built for speed, to bad most of the "go" people think they are above anyone else and bash show cars, Oh well....

[mocha latte cupcake]

hey brett... you're car is fast what are you talking about!? you've got that nawz stuff!

[Brett]

Get back in the "Jungle" JM :D

[B16a2 Civic]

I am more into the show side, I love car shows and talkin to people at these events. I am not really into the "go" side but I do respect cars built for speed, to bad most of the "go" people think they are above anyone else and bash show cars, Oh well....

Brett, you hit that one on tha nose....most of em feel if your not all go, your below them and 9/10 a ricer

[Tank]

hey brett your car looks fast :) nah i dont bash show cars its just not me i like goin to shows though

[Jaimecbr900]

Both have their pros and cons.

I personally like what Nemesis said. I like a car that has enough to be respected (not be top dawg necessarily) by both sides.

BTW, that's what ECI's new Performance division is about. :D ;)

[B16a2 Civic]

Both have their pros and cons.

I personally like what Nemesis said. I like a car that has enough to be respected (not be top dawg necessarily) by both sides.

BTW, that's what ECI's new Performance division is about. :D ;)

ahh, see Jaime, you have a good dose of both....first off its a lexis....second...its a good lookin lexus Lol

[BTEC]

... I'm going to say i'd rather run 13's and look pretty....
y not 10's or 11's and look pretty?

[buddha@TeamFX]

I guess 75% go...25% show....

[CRVTech]

I like the 50/50 mix...but then your shit gets jacked no matter what it looks like, so it doesn't really matter anymore. :mad: :lmfao:

[HiPSI]

Brett, you hit that one on tha nose....most of em feel if your not all go, your below them and 9/10 a ricer


ricer

[B16a2 Civic]

I like the 50/50 mix...but then your shit gets jacked no matter what it looks like, so it doesn't really matter anymore. :mad: :lmfao:


you've been real bitter as of late....

[B16a2 Civic]

ricer


Rice-ah

[Tank]

:lmfao: ^ :lmfao:

[Jaimecbr900]

ahh, see Jaime, you have a good dose of both....first off its a lexis....second...its a good lookin lexus Lol

{elvis voice} Thank you, Thank you very much....LOL{/end elvis voice}


I'm by far not the only one at all. There are several cars that would fit the category of having elements of both. I know some ECI, Elite, IA, folk that have some go (some have lots of go) in their show cars or show quality cars. I respect that. It's not easy to do that. Even harder when you consider some of those cars get pushed hard sometimes and some are daily drivers.

Both sides deserve props.

The people that don't deserve props are the haters. I've seen so many people at shows talk trash about how "they'd" do this different and that different. Well you know what? Whenever they have their own $10K to invest in a custom made turbo kit for their car, they can have the downpipe coming out their ass if they wanted to.....mine's going where I want it to. :2up: You know what I mean?

I find something in just about every car, show or go, that I like. Sometimes it's small, sometimes it's all of it.

[tony]

Basically what Jaime said, something that gets respect at the track and car shows.

[Tank]

im interested jaime in the cars you talking about i think rons 350 might be fast i dont know what cars are in eci never been on tehre site yet what cars are you talkin bout man

[CRVTech]

you've been real bitter as of late....

I am very very bitter. I was already a little bitter, this just made it worse. Now everytime I see a five dollar civic I want to spit on it. :bigok: I'll be all right when I can drive my truck and rail on every ricer I see. :D

[Ruiner]

All show and no go = bullshit (in my opinion)

The same with all go and no show = bullshit as well

There needs to be a subtle mix between the two. I don't care if your car can run 10s, if it has a primered front end I am not impressed. Also, I couldn't less if you have lambo doors and huge wheels, if you can't get better than a 17 sec in the 1/4, you might want to consider some power mods.

[RandomGuy]

I guess 75% go...25% show....
perfect ratio

[B16a2 Civic]

All show and no go = bullshit (in my opinion)

The same with all go and no show = bullshit as well

There needs to be a subtle mix between the two. I don't care if your car can run 10s, if it has a primered front end I am not impressed. Also, I couldn't less if you have lambo doors and huge wheels, if you can't get better than a 17 sec in the 1/4, you might want to consider some power mods.

i almost fell in that category Lol.... thank god you didn't say run better then 15's or 14's

[HiPSI]

i like cars that are purpose built... a car doesn't have to be pretty to be fast, and vice-versa. the thing I don't like are cars that are overdone or cars that seem to serve a certain purpose but never get used as such (kinda like a dyno-queen supra). functionality is the name of my game, the rest is just dead weight ;)

[civic95]

An even mix would be nice.

I don't want something with $10K in body work that I can't drive. On the other hand I don't want something that has 500+HP thats not reliable enough to make it to work, and back home. Actually now I prefer something thats more luxurious.
Something comfortable, quick, handles good, and doesn't attract a lot of attention.

[RandomGuy]

An even mix would be nice.

I don't want something with $10K in body work that I can't drive. On the other hand I don't want something that has 500+HP thats not reliable enough to make it to work, and back home. Actually now I prefer something thats more luxurious.
Something comfortable, quick, handles good, and doesn't attract a lot of attention.
but what does reliability have to do with show?

lol I am with you, but if it comes down to it...
I'd rather have a BUTT ugly 9 second car,
than a show winning, "pimped out" 20 second car

just my personal preference

[SOHC MONSTER]

Im with the whole 50/50 thing....sounds logical

[BTEC]

my turn. i would never build a show car bc it pisses me off when ppl spend g's on paint, body, ice, power adders and everything else to never really drive the car. all this stuff they put on cars just to trailer it around to shows and wait for a group of idiots to determine whether or not the rules like ur car. what kinda of enjoyment do you get out of that. the price on parts are sky rocketting bc all these show mofos are buying everything up just so they can get extra points in a show. i got a 62-1 turbnetic ballbearing turbo on my car and ive never revved it to 6000rpm and prolly never will. or i made 8 million hp on the dyno once and i got 13 billion dollars in ice and body mods but my tires are flat spotted bc i dnt drive it.

[civic95]

but what does reliability have to do with show?

lol I am with you, but if it comes down to it...
I'd rather have a BUTT ugly 9 second car,
than a show winning, "pimped out" 20 second car

just my personal preference

Read it again. What I meant was I don't want a show car with $10K of body work that I'm don't want to drive because I'm afraid of messing it up.

[5thgcelica]

im probably more on the show side of things. atleast with the imports for me. but i also want my car to go some. thats why im gonna do a swap one day...

however. if i had a muscle car. i want that bitch to throw down. i also want it to look good as well and all you readlly need for that is a decent paint/chrome job.

[fawk_you]

Oh gawd... another one of these threads.... hardy har har

[rolling_trip]

75% race
25% show

BTW, in race, i don't mean 1\4 mile.

[Jimmy B]

:bigok: I'll be all right when I can drive my truck and rail on every ricer I see. :D

me too...:D :king:

[BTEC]

Oh gawd... another one of these threads.... hardy har har
S,T,F,U!!!

[CRVTech]

me too...:D :king:

:lmfao: Ha, we can out together. Hopefully I'll be good to go next week. That is if my four link gets here today/tomorrow. :goodjob:

[Jimmy B]

thats cool! mine is not gonna be ready for at least another 6-7 mos im doing a full frame off and full detaled build

[Ruiner]

75% race
25% show

BTW, in race, i don't mean 1\4 mile.

By "race" you had better not mean "cones in a parking lot" either. :)

[CRVTech]

thats cool! mine is not gonna be ready for at least another 6-7 mos im doing a full frame off and full detaled build

Gosh. I wish I had the time/money to do that. But I'm trying to put a daily dragger together fast. And then when the money situation gets better start working on it. I'd love to bodydrop it, but, then I would need something else to drive. So laying frame will have to be good enough for now, door will come later. ;)

[dereksi]

show

[BTEC]

show
THIS THREAD WASNT MEANT FOR UR :2cents: so GIT DUH FUC OUT!!!











j/k, i already know ur opinion ne way. OMG WATER, RUN!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[B16a2 Civic]

well....in the honda world, a B16a2 ( mine and Derek's motor) would somewhat be considered go

[dereksi]

well actually my opion will change very soon

[civic95]

By "race" you had better not mean "cones in a parking lot" either. :)

or track days

[Tank]

well....in the honda world, a B16a2 ( mine and Derek's motor) would somewhat be considered go


^not to me homie exspecially if your only upgrade is chrome intakes j/kj

[dereksi]

THIS THREAD WASNT MEANT FOR UR :2cents: so GIT DUH FUC OUT!!!











j/k, i already know ur opinion ne way. OMG WATER, RUN!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:2up: punk!!

[dereksi]

oh dudes got a supra, now hes top shit. LOL j/k

[Tank]

one for you derek :2up: one for your groupie :2up: j/k hey whats done to your motor derek for real

[BTEC]

well....in the honda world, a B16a2 ( mine and Derek's motor) would somewhat be considered go
the b16 is the s*t but it has vtec, use it. mtr has too much potential to be not be modified. thats my opinion. a show car that runing 13 or better gets props from me. if ur car is in the same second bracket as it was stock (stock 15.8 and now 15.2) no points from me. get to wrk slacker.

[dereksi]

canoter valves,muffler bearings,turbo headlight fluid. the list goes on.....

[BTEC]

one for you derek :2up: one for your groupie :2up: j/k hey whats done to your motor derek for real
he has a turbonator and a fram oil filter. :lmfao:

[dereksi]

where the fuck are my cams J????????????????/

[dereksi]

and 93 octane!

[BTEC]

where the fuck are my cams J????????????????/
mike said they are at his homeboys house. ill tell him to pick them up and bring them to the shop tonight.

[B16a2 Civic]

the b16 is the s*t but it has vtec, use it. mtr has too much potential to be not be modified. thats my opinion. a show car that runing 13 or better gets props from me. if ur car is in the same second bracket as it was stock (stock 15.8 and now 15.2) no points from me. get to wrk slacker.

Lol, never ran the 1/4.
i ran low 10's and mid 9's on teh 1/8 ( the low 10's was cause this was my first time at the track)
then again it could be lower cause i was runnin with a full audio system, and 18 inch rims. ( not usin it as an excuse, just mention :) )

[dereksi]

mike said they are at his homeboys house. ill tell him to pick them up and bring them to the shop tonight.
cool. hit me up either due

[Tank]

so your turbo derek

[BTEC]

Lol, never ran the 1/4.
i ran low 10's and mid 9's on teh 1/8 ( the low 10's was cause this was my first time at the track)
then again it could be lower cause i was runnin with a full audio system, and 18 inch rims. ( not usin it as an excuse, just mention :) )
thats not bad for a coupe. i ran 14.7 spinning in my hatch witha stock b16 on bald 13's and good 17's. low 9's are pretty fun but i want 7's though.

[BTEC]

so your turbo derek
turbonator. that lil thing that u stuff into ur stock intake pipe and it spins. lol!!!!

[dereksi]

I gotta a chevy big block in my civ.that should answer any ??

[B16a2 Civic]

thats not bad for a coupe. i ran 14.7 spinning in my hatch witha stock b16 on bald 13's and good 17's. low 9's are pretty fun but i want 7's though.


YOU CANT HAVE WHAT YOU WANT!!
Lol im sure i can get that once i upgrade the cams, work on the head and lose some of the weight on my car ( the chrome 18's might be it too Lol)....but back to topic at hand...im goin for both :)

[Tank]

turbonator. that lil thing that u stuff into ur stock intake pipe and it spins. lol!!!!


say it aint so derek say it aint so

[dereksi]

LOL^^^

[dereksi]

nah man its embarassing even BTEC can keep up with me lol

[Tank]

:lmfao: :lmfao: Btec's a ricer noooooooooooooo :eek:

[rolling_trip]

By "race" you had better not mean "cones in a parking lot" either. :)

never done that before, but i'm not knocking it. i'd like to get my car set up for closed tracks, like little talladega :goodjob:

[dereksi]

whatchu talking hes a ricer?? So are you pawtna

[BTEC]

nah man its embarassing even BTEC can keep up with me lol
damn right i can, that electronic blow off valve i got really does it for my d13. lol!! it goes off at 3000 rpm and gives me the boost i need to quickly reach my 5000 rpm redline. lol!!

[B16a2 Civic]

your all fuckin Rice-ah's

[Ronv350z]

If you go show then you have the oportunity to get sponsors and then you don't have to pay to good fast. Ex. I didn't want to do to much to my 350 when I first got it but then I got my first sponsor and I went crazy and just kept going from there.

[Tank]

^ so ronny are you saying your fast huh huh huh inquiring minds would like to know homie

[BTEC]

whatchu talking hes a ricer?? So are you pawtna
yeah tank, i heard u love those lil exhaust stickers. the ones that look like a exhaust dump and wastegate dump tube for a turbo car. lol!!!!

[Tank]

oh yeah i got 4 of them adds 100lbs of torque to my ride

[Ronv350z]

^ so ronny are you saying your fast huh huh huh inquiring minds would like to know homie
Fast is coming soon Im slow right now but fast enough to keep up with most, I am working on a single turbo setup and some other shit for next season.

[The Yousef]

honestly...i'd rather be both...but if i had to chose...then race :goodjob:

[wes_297]

i guess a little of both. i wated my civic to look different and be a little quicker than average. even though i have done shows and got 2nd or 3rd place. i dont concider it a show or race car.

[speedminded]

There is no better show car than a JGTC or GT1 car sitting up on airjacks on racedecking under an awning off the side of a $100k trailer. End of story. :)

..but i am determined to have the cleanest track prepared integra.


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[Tbird_guy]

the bird is gonna be fast...btw J, did u ever find out how much dave wants for that kit?

[Jimmy B]

Gosh. I wish I had the time/money to do that. But I'm trying to put a daily dragger together fast. And then when the money situation gets better start working on it. I'd love to bodydrop it, but, then I would need something else to drive. So laying frame will have to be good enough for now, door will come later. ;)

i bought the truck for $100, so.. its not a big thing thats jsut sitting in the garage.. lol im doing most of the work before it even gets out of the driveway this time around... bagged(on 20s at all corners), bodydrop 2.5 all the bodywork, full sheetmetal interior, fully detaled and painted frame, rebuilt, painted and chromed/polished motor, you know.. a good lookin toy that could happen to be put in minitruckin :)


BTW, my truck will be SLOWWWW, 90 hp .... so to all of you go people, ill jsut throw sparks at ya!

[Tank]

Fast is coming soon Im slow right now but fast enough to keep up with most, I am working on a single turbo setup and some other shit for next season.


how much hp you shooting for cause i bet your car weighs alot man but its damn nice :goodjob:

[Tank]

BTW, my truck will be SLOWWWW, 90 hp .... so to all of you go people, ill jsut throw sparks at ya!


:lmfao: but i bet it will be tight bro

[dereksi]

If hes like john running 2psi then not very fast. LOL j/k ron your my boy.

[BTEC]

the bird is gonna be fast...btw J, did u ever find out how much dave wants for that kit?
just bring 300.

[dereksi]

what about my kit J? Just bring 300 also? lol

[CRVTech]

i bought the truck for $100, so.. its not a big thing thats jsut sitting in the garage.. lol im doing most of the work before it even gets out of the driveway this time around... bagged(on 20s at all corners), bodydrop 2.5 all the bodywork, full sheetmetal interior, fully detaled and painted frame, rebuilt, painted and chromed/polished motor, you know.. a good lookin toy that could happen to be put in minitruckin :)


BTW, my truck will be SLOWWWW, 90 hp .... so to all of you go people, ill jsut throw sparks at ya!

:lmfao: Yeah, my guy has a few $100 project trucks...and they're all rusting to hell right now. He might get something done if he'd quit buying new toys. lol. But if he worked on his trucks then mine wouldn't get done so I won't complain too much.

Had to cut the exhaust off my truck yesterday...it sounds awful. Right now I'm going for the stock but slammed look. I give it a week before we start cutting on it again or start shaving it. And don't feel bad, the Nissan isn't all that fast either. lol.

[BTEC]

what about my kit J? Just bring 300 also? lol
no ur 300 is for the cams. they are at the shop, cmon by pal. lol!!! inerest is a mofo!!

[Tbird_guy]

alrighty then...I will bing money on my bonus check week probably...unless something happens again, and I cant afford it.

[dereksi]

no ur 300 is for the cams. they are at the shop, cmon by pal. lol!!! inerest is a mofo!!
Interest? On your side maybe. I wanted those sunday night buddy.In other words drop whatever your doing and get to work on my car slacker. LOL

[BTEC]

Interest? On your side maybe. I wanted those sunday night buddy.In other words drop whatever your doing and get to work on my car slacker. LOL
yes suh, u can count on me suh, um huh, yes u can.












:2up:

[Ruiner]

never done that before, but i'm not knocking it. i'd like to get my car set up for closed tracks, like little talladega :goodjob:

Road Atlanta or Barber Motorsports Park are close by. They are fun.

[MachNU]

I look at it this way for my car, for every Two interior/exterior things i put on my car i at least do one Show/Performance thing to the engine. And i mean like performance parts that are dressy to the engine. That way i dont go all the way to one side of the scale with show parts and have nothing under the hood to back it, but then again same thing on the engine.

[Stormhammer]

I'd have to admit that in the end - I'd rather be all go

even if it means being in a Gremlin with a stroked 390 or a Pinto with a 429 Boss

[HyPer50]

Definatly more into race cars... Not into show cars at all really, aside from old (30's-50's) hot rods and (60's-70's) muscle cars. Not into the gullwing, bling bling show cars....

[quickdodge®]

Go. Bodykits are ugly(most of the time). And there is no thrill in showing. There is, however, a lot of excitement when you're running the track. Why look fast when you can be fast? Later, QD.

[Ronv350z]

how much hp you shooting for cause i bet your car weighs alot man but its damn nice :goodjob:
My car doesn't weigh that much more than 3500lbs i don't think anyways :D

[TranceDJ06]

I prefer both cuuzz I like.. Looks, Speed :lickpuss: who doesnt want a great horsepower car, Luxury, Comfort, Style ..oh and yeah Drag cars kick ass :idb:

[rolling_trip]

Road Atlanta or Barber Motorsports Park are close by. They are fun.



i'll have to check them out oneday. until i get where i would make an ass out of myself, i will prob stay closer to the smaller tracks

[speedminded]

i'll have to check them out oneday. until i get where i would make an ass out of myself, i will prob stay closer to the smaller tracksYou can't get any closer...except maybe Roebling Road in Savannah.

[SL65AMG]

well id word the question differently....

id ask do you prefer function over form?

id rather spend money in motor parts and nice turbo kits while making the car look better.... show cars are all looks but they have nothing to back it up...and ive some shitty looking show cars..... id rather spend money on something that im gonna feel the difference and enhance the car as well.....

like air bags.... or just a normal suspension drop... rebuilt motor..... something youd FEEl the difference ... and not only in ur pocket

thats my opinion

-K

[PSINXS]

I honestly dont like stirctly show cars. I hate trailer queens. why have a car u dont want to drive? The show scene is full of outrageous stuff. who needs tvs in their gas door n headlights? I like a car that can combine both. Look at the supra above in the sig. Clean enough for a show IMO, but prolly packs a punch under the hood. I am all about going fast. i dont care how i look doing it. As long as your bling bling got beat by my zing zing.

[Tank]

oh yeah that supra is hot who does it belong to

[Julio]

That looks like an AMG to me.. not a supra.

[Brett]

and 93 octane!

I fill up twice with 87, so mine 174!!! Beat that bitch!! :lmfao:

[Tank]

That looks like an AMG to me.. not a supra.


:2up: for killing a brotha's lil props ass j/p

[BTLFED]

I've answered this question so many times I should just make a macro with it.

[Elbow]

I prefer a 'race car' over a show car. I have always had functional cars that I use at track days and autocross. You can make them look good too. My current CRX is all gutted and stuff, but it still has a CD player and a sub. I just like the go fast part of a car over the looks. My opinion nobody cares though lol