Memphis vs. JL

[Nguyen128]

looking for a new 4 channel, can't decide between a M class memphis 4 channel or JL 300/4. suggestions anyone?

& does anyone know if you can fix a blown channel? thanks.

[Justin51982]

Memphis. Superior product

[TSiFTW]

Memphis.

[jhadleyh]

Memphis Mojo> all

If you don't know what it is look it up

[audiowiz]

Definately Memphis.

[Nguyen128]

Memphis Mojo> all

If you don't know what it is look it up

stated above... 4 channel not 1 channel. powering door speakers & rear deck not sub. yes i know what mojo is.

thanks to everyone else for their 2 cents.
memphis it is.

[sina518]

jl audio never fails.

[CHADbee]

both are over rated and over priced. if you just shit money then go for both, they are great amps.

if you want to get the same performance for alot less $ then check out

-sundown or mb quart discus series

for amp repair....

http://www.db-r.com/

[Justin51982]

both are over rated and over priced. if you just shit money then go for both, they are great amps.

if you want to get the same performance for alot less $ then check out

-sundown or mb quart discus series

for amp repair....

http://www.db-r.com/

Memphis is not over-rated, pricey yes, but you get what you pay for. It's more than just performance, it's clarity too.

[CHADbee]

Memphis is not over-rated, pricey yes, but you get what you pay for. It's more than just performance, it's clarity too.

im just a cheap ass :lmao:

[Nguyen128]

i figure i go memphis anyways, i have memis everything else. they are rather pricey but i found a few on ebay.

[drpepper14]

go to diymobileaudio.com and learn a few things about clarity

many far superior products for a lower or equal price to memphis products (and JL!). Also, if you need to save space...the JL HD series is very nice for the money. I normally don't like these overpriced brands, but the HD amps are very nice and very compact

[lovinmydodge]

lol. don't go to diy lol lots of aholes over there.

go to carstereoforum.net

also I would use sundown, by far the best product on the market.

and fyi memphis is def over rated. underpowered and honestly doesn't really give me enough output for the $ just saying

[SPOOLIN]

you are golden either way you go. Ive seen JL Voltage testing in person, They have some quality in their circuitry.

[TSiFTW]

In my earlier posts I was just giving my opinion between those 2. If I may throw a suggestion out though. search ebay for some old school US Amps. Or the new US Amps Merlin Series or better. Not the Terminator series. US makes more power than rated and quality is second to none. On the older ones you have to use an external crossover as there is not one built in. I will say though I use both Memphis and US Amps in my car.

[sina518]

sundown seems to be nice stuff, going to test it out soon.

[drpepper14]

lol. don't go to diy lol lots of aholes over there.

go to carstereoforum.net

also I would use sundown, by far the best product on the market.

and fyi memphis is def over rated. underpowered and honestly doesn't really give me enough output for the $ just saying

LOL I haven't met anymore than any other forum.

You just don't like them because you are a bass head and they are SQ guys

[A. Tuning]

I don't think you'd go wrong either way, but Memphis will give you a little more power at the same clarity and the same money!

*SIDENOTE*

The rule to audio has always been $1/watt...since when did that become OVERPRICED? Just curious.

[99GAGT]

go to diymobileaudio.com and learn a few things about clarity

many far superior products for a lower or equal price to memphis products (and JL!). Also, if you need to save space...the JL HD series is very nice for the money. I normally don't like these overpriced brands, but the HD amps are very nice and very compact

I prefer the Alpine PDX line for compact amps myself..

As far as the OP's question, if you are strictly debating those two brands, Memphis. But I agree that there are many other options out there for a lot less money that will do just as well in your setup.

[drpepper14]

Have you heard the PDX line versus the HD line? I've gotten engine noise in half of the pdx installs i've done...maybe just bad luck, but in 3 of those installs we swapped for JL HD's and changed nothing else = Engine noise gone.

Maybe that will be different with their new PDX's that they just showed at CES

[BanginJimmy]

\The rule to audio has always been $1/watt...since when did that become OVERPRICED? Just curious.


I would agree with you for quality class a,b and a/b amps, but for a class D I would never pay more than about .40/watt and you can still do better than that if you arent in a hurry and can wait to find deals.

[CHADbee]

psh. $1/watt?!?!?!?!!!!???? maybe back in the 90's. you guys need to stop paying for brand names.

if you know what you looking at check this out....if you dont ignore this whole post.

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p87/TheIceman666/Audioque2200vsMbQuartdsc2000.jpg


AQ 220 on the left, MB 2k on the right.

that MB Quart Discuss puts out a TRUE 2000 RMS CLEAN wattage with NO distortion for $300 shipped with a warranty....

http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_17762_MB+Quart+DSC+2000.1D+-DSC2000.1D-.html

:cheers:

[yerrow]

wow thats a deal

[lovinmydodge]

check this out... 3000 rms or true clean power for only 310 bucks

http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt257/lovindatuba/audiopipe006.jpg

http://cgi.ebay.com/3000-WATT-AUDIOPIPE-MONO-CLASS-D-CAR-AMP-W-BASS-KNOB_W0QQitemZ350245938191QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCar_A mplifiers?hash=item518c48e40f

[lovinmydodge]

and yeah that mb is a nice amp. decent power for a tight space. but for 10 bucks more I want the extra 1000 watts rms. But honestly you need a decent electrical to play with this amp. its def a big box. and for 1500 rms you can get these in half for about 160 bucks. audiopipe 15001D. look em up. believe it or not they do rated power. I have one myself and this think puts out some serious power!!

[AV8ter]

I got the DSC(2K) for myself to blow up my 18'' RE XXX...


Kevin

[Xrated O.G.]

I've been running a JL 300/4 on my components for some time now. Im pleased with the performance thus far. I have never used any Memphis equiptment so I have no basis of comparison for you.

[Nguyen128]

good stuff on here. too bad i keep getting outbid on these amps lol

[AV8ter]

Have you heard the PDX line versus the HD line? I've gotten engine noise in half of the pdx installs i've done...maybe just bad luck, but in 3 of those installs we swapped for JL HD's and changed nothing else = Engine noise gone.

Maybe that will be different with their new PDX's that they just showed at CES


If there is engine noise, it is not fault of the amp. The JL may be able to hide the noise/hiss, but the cause of the noise/hiss is simply a faulty installation of equipment. Bad grounds, blown picco fuses are most common causes.


Kevin

[CHADbee]

If there is engine noise, it is not fault of the amp. The JL may be able to hide the noise/hiss, but the cause of the noise/hiss is simply a faulty installation of equipment. Bad grounds, blown picco fuses are most common causes.


Kevin

damn straight. i had that issue with my blazer and this man^ ran that shit down with a quickness and it was fixed pretty easily

[DynamicSound]

If there is engine noise, it is not fault of the amp. The JL may be able to hide the noise/hiss, but the cause of the noise/hiss is simply a faulty installation of equipment. Bad grounds, blown picco fuses are most common causes.


Kevin

x2

I wouldn't be paying $1/watt either. Hell, the new DB Drive Okur series amp I will be running in my demo car is close to 10,000rms @ 18 volts and it is $3,000...which I consider pricey as hell and that is only $0.30/watt. Around 0.49/watt at 14 volts.

[AV8ter]

x2

I wouldn't be paying $1/watt either. Hell, the new DB Drive Okur series amp I will be running in my demo car is close to 10,000rms @ 18 volts and it is $3,000...which I consider pricey as hell and that is only $0.30/watt. Around 0.49/watt at 14 volts.


For sure. Truth is, and most people are in denial, that the average person can't tell the increase in sound quality between high end amplifiers. They hear a difference between the two sounds, and automatically assume the higher end(or more expensive if you will) amp sounds better, when the difference in music reproduction between the two amplifiers is cause by the settings between the two amps not be exactly the same.

I run my amplifiers full pass(ALL PASS) and always set my gains with a dmm and leave all crossing over duties to my ALPINE 9887. It would take a very fine set of ears to pick out the differences in reproduction between two different amplifiers in my car at this point.

Original Poster, What car is the setup going into. What other equipment are you looking at using?


You have a headunit already? Components already?


Kevin

Kevin

[DynamicSound]

For sure. Truth is, and most people are in denial, that the average person can't tell the increase in sound quality between high end amplifiers. They hear a difference between the two sounds, and automatically assume the higher end(or more expensive if you will) amp sounds better, when the difference in music reproduction between the two amplifiers is cause by the settings between the two amps not be exactly the same.

I run my amplifiers full pass(ALL PASS) and always set my gains with a dmm and leave all crossing over duties to my ALPINE 9887. It would take a very fine set of ears to pick out the differences in reproduction between two different amplifiers in my car at this point.

I agree.

[AV8ter]

BTW, I consider myself the average person, as in, I don't have the ability to pick out the finest details.......

[Nguyen128]

For sure. Truth is, and most people are in denial, that the average person can't tell the increase in sound quality between high end amplifiers. They hear a difference between the two sounds, and automatically assume the higher end(or more expensive if you will) amp sounds better, when the difference in music reproduction between the two amplifiers is cause by the settings between the two amps not be exactly the same.

I run my amplifiers full pass(ALL PASS) and always set my gains with a dmm and leave all crossing over duties to my ALPINE 9887. It would take a very fine set of ears to pick out the differences in reproduction between two different amplifiers in my car at this point.

Original Poster, What car is the setup going into. What other equipment are you looking at using?


You have a headunit already? Components already?


Kevin

Kevin

Were you asking me about the last part?

[AV8ter]

Were you asking me about the last part?

Why yes sir, I was........ NSX?

[Nguyen128]

No sir, the inside is quite noisey so I'm leaving the stock bose in that.

Just for my DD, 09 Pontiac G5. Currently has front & rear speakers... stock headunit.

[Nguyen128]

Forgot to add, they are Memphis M Class front & back.

[AV8ter]

How much money do you have, because you need a headunit, and wiring before you get your amp.

You plan on adding a sub later?


Kevin

[Scott P]

it has been quite interesing following this thread. There have been alot of opinions and conjecture tossed around throughout and most of it is wrong.

To a truly discerning ear one can hear the differences in the build quality of an amplifier if all other variables are constant (i.e. the settings). Now with that in mind the reason most people don't have the ability to hear said differences is that they have no idea how music is truly supposed to sound. If you are going to listen to an ipod, I suppose it doesn't really matter what amp you choose since SQ is really not a priority at that point. Also it doesn't really matter what amp you choose if you don't have the transducers (speakers) to properly replicate the sound stage with out artificially coloring it.

Further more I won't even bother with signal processing and source unit choices as that will take longer than I feel like typing.

All that said, given the choices named in here so far the only one I would even remotely consider running in my show car would be JL, and honestly that would be only if 10-15 other companies folded up shop first.

Given the budget implied by the OP's original amp suggestions I would look ar Arc Audio KS series amps, Genesis Profile series, and Zapco Refences series if he is serious about actually getting a true SQ amp.

[Nguyen128]

How much money do you have, because you need a headunit, and wiring before you get your amp.

You plan on adding a sub later?


Kevin

To answer your question yes I do have money. But between school, paying the bills, and money for expanding buisness adding audio to my car is the least of my worries. I am aware I need a headunit before all. I was just looking around ebay and I saw this for a nice price so I've been placing bids. The headunit I'm looking at is the Kenwood DNX9140, but I could do without spending $1,500 right now so when I find a nice price on ebay or somewhere I'll be sure to scoop it up. Played with it in a friends truck and thought it was really nice. The point of this thread was just opinions about the two amps. I'm sure there will be others like this when I find some deals. I don't need anything too extravagant, my little daily couldn't handle that anyways.

[Nguyen128]

Forgot to add, yeah i'll be looking at a sub later on. I was also looking at the Memphis big belle 5 channel amp too.

[CHADbee]

looking at a sub

clicky the sig link :D

[Nguyen128]

Yeah I saw that. Might have to come check it out sometime lol.