.22 or .25

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What would be a better target gun and carry gun a .22LR or .25ACP ?

[1439/2000]

.22 is cheap as hell and more common to find. I have a Walther P22 to plink with and its fun fun fun.

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.22 is cheap as hell and more common to find. I have a Walther P22 to plink with and its fun fun fun.
Yeah my fiance her Grandfather has a nice P22 he used for security. I like them just everyone wants to much for them cause they are easy to sell

[Slomaro Z28]

A .22, will be cheap, but for a carry and target gun the smallest I'd get would be a 9mm (ammo is still cheap).

Between the 2 you have I say a .22

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A .22, will be cheap, but for a carry and target gun the smallest I'd get would be a 9mm (ammo is still cheap).

Between the 2 you have I say a .22
yeah im looking at a 9mm only issue is if i have to use it for defense im less likely to kill a person with a smaller caliber :lmfao:

[sklfrmga]

P22 FTW...got about 1500 rounds through mine and love it

[Slomaro Z28]

yeah im looking at a 9mm only issue is if i have to use it for defense im less likely to kill a person with a smaller caliber :lmfao:

Wrong, a .22 will not exit and will bounce off bones and around inside the body, causing more damage. A well placed shot is less likely to kill a person.

Check these out, small frame gun and 9mm.

http://www.taurususa.com/gun-selector-results.cfm?series=709&toggle=tp

If those are priced to high check these .380 out

http://www.taurususa.com/gun-selector-results.cfm?series=738&toggle=tp

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Wrong, a .22 will not exit and will bounce off bones and around inside the body, causing more damage. A well placed shot is less likely to kill a person.

Check these out, small frame gun and 9mm.

http://www.taurususa.com/gun-selector-results.cfm?series=709&toggle=tp
those are nice and yeah i heard that about a .22 before lol
I have some dudes on GGT telling me a High point is good.

[Slomaro Z28]

those are nice and yeah i heard that about a .22 before lol
I have some dudes on GGT telling me a High point is good.

You get what you pay for, they are VERY cheap.

Just IMO I wouldn't trust one as a carry gun, maybe a fun target gun, but that's about it.

You should ask a mod to move this to the outdoor section for some good info :cheers:

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You get what you pay for, they are VERY cheap.

Just IMO I wouldn't trust one as a carry gun, maybe a fun target gun, but that's about it.

You should ask a mod to move this to the outdoor section for some good info :cheers:






Yeah i talked to a few people and have looked at feed back on them and still the guy argues they are good that they used to be POS :rolleyes:
I dont wanna gun that jams or dont fire after 25 rounds shot.....
Yeah thanks

[Slomaro Z28]

Yeah i talked to a few people and have looked at feed back on them and still the guy argues they are good that they used to be POS :rolleyes:
I dont wanna gun that jams or dont fire after 25 rounds shot.....
Yeah thanks

Taurus and Ruger make nice guns, for decent prices. Look on www.Gunbroker.com.

[r_Senik]

Taurus and Ruger make nice guns, for decent prices. Look on www.Gunbroker.com (http://www.Gunbroker.com).
true..and there pretty much easy to find. another gun to look at is the smith and wesson sigma 9. those are a great gun too..just the trigger pull make alot of people not to like it.

[SiRed94]

another gun to look at is the smith and wesson sigma 9. those are a great gun too..just the trigger pull make alot of people not to like it.

Are you saying this because you bought one? LOL

[81911SC]

yeah im looking at a 9mm only issue is if i have to use it for defense im less likely to kill a person with a smaller caliber :lmfao:Why would you shoot to injure?
You never shoot anything unless you plan on destroying it. Period.
.38 spl is the smallest I carry. fyi.

[81911SC]

22. Mag if you want headshotthis doesn't even make sense and an unglodly amount of unlikely.

[Slomaro Z28]

If you have the money to spend.....

Springfield and Glock are great guns with moderate price tags

Then you get into stuff like Kimber and other high end stuff. All depends on how much you wanna spend, just like a car.

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Why would you shoot to injure?
You never shoot anything unless you plan on destroying it. Period.
.38 spl is the smallest I carry. fyi.
Yeah i was going to get the one Sired had but he sold it already....My father had a .38 special he got from a detective but it got stolen :cry:

[EJdm]

jay at least a 380...go big or go home lol...

[mushroom_toy]

Get a Taurus. Im a big fan now. :) .22 for target shooting, but nothing less than a .38spl or .40 for carry. I have shot a hipoint .380 though and really liked it. Good fit and finish and had no hiccups or anything in over 100 rounds I put through it. So it was definitely worth the 100 my buddy paid for it imho.

[Starrfire]

true..and there pretty much easy to find. another gun to look at is the smith and wesson sigma 9. those are a great gun too..just the trigger pull make alot of people not to like it.


No, this gun is a huge piece of shit. My friend bought one and I bought a Beretta storm .40 cal. My gun is much more accurate and a way better gun. The sigma is garbage.

[Starrfire]

Also, don't buy a Walther p22 unless you have midget hands. My little finger was half way off the grip. If you want something for plinking, get a Beretta u22 neos, or a Browning .22, but the walther is just mainly looks.

[Danny]

yeah im looking at a 9mm only issue is if i have to use it for defense im less likely to kill a person with a smaller caliber :lmfao:


Thats exactly right. Instead of the perp stopping his attack, you and your loved ones get raped and killed.

anything smaller than 9mm is for a backup gun or target shooting. and anything below .38x doesn't belong in a self defense situation. Handguns are incredibly weak to begin with, and choosing the weakest of the weak is asking for serious trouble.

[r_Senik]

No, this gun is a huge piece of shit. My friend bought one and I bought a Beretta storm .40 cal. My gun is much more accurate and a way better gun. The sigma is garbage.
how so? not trying to say your wrong or whatever, its just that the sigma is my first/only gun. and what experience that you had to not like it..so i will know how long imma keep this gun.
thanks in advance

[SiRed94]

how so? not trying to say your wrong or whatever, its just that the sigma is my first/only gun. and what experience that you had to not like it..so i will know how long imma keep this gun.
thanks in advance

Oh really? I'll say that he's wrong. I'll vouch for the sigma being a good gun. They are very reliable. They are pretty difficult to group well with straight out of the box with that nearly 15lb. trigger pull. I put over 1000 rounds through one of the SW40VE's that I had, and only had maybe 2 issues out of it the whole time, and I am pretty sure that was Ammo related. You will be surprised at how much better you will shoot with them when you lighten up that trigger pull. I personally hate striker guns, but if I was broke and needed something to rely on, for the price, I'd carry a sigma. Nothing is wrong with your gun, so don't plan on getting rid of it, unless you are just wanting to upgrade to something with a hammer. LOL. Btw, did you get yours new or used, because if used, it may have already had the mods done to it?

[1439/2000]

Yeah my fiance her Grandfather has a nice P22 he used for security. I like them just everyone wants to much for them cause they are easy to sell

They are like 325 new. That's ridiculously cheap. I shoot fruit and can with it but for defense its kind of terrible.

[Slomaro Z28]

Thats exactly right. Instead of the perp stopping his attack, you and your loved ones get raped and killed.

anything smaller than 9mm is for a backup gun or target shooting. and anything below .38x doesn't belong in a self defense situation. Handguns are incredibly weak to begin with, and choosing the weakest of the weak is asking for serious trouble.

That's what I was trying to say....if you only want ONE gun and it is for both target and carry, a 9mm is be the cheapest target gun (ammo wise) that I would carry. If you want something for your house, I say a .40 or .45. You can target shoot with those also, but ammo is a higher.

[mushroom_toy]

.40 is pretty easy on the wallet for target practice. Federal ammo is 15 bucks per 50 rounds. Now you also want to shoot the rounds youre going to be using for home defense so you get an idea of the differences in the ballistics.

[Starrfire]

how so? not trying to say your wrong or whatever, its just that the sigma is my first/only gun. and what experience that you had to not like it..so i will know how long imma keep this gun.
thanks in advance


I'm just saying you could have gotten a better gun. I've fired it enough to know I didn't like it. But I also didn't like how it felt, which is a big thing with hand guns. It has to feel right, and it felt cheap and blocky in my hands. But also people have different hands. The biggest problem I had was the single action semi auto, and the lack of a safety.

For the money I would have bought a Taurus of some type. I wouldn't say I'm wrong, there are just simply better guns out there and the Sigma isn't good for me would be a better way to put it. If you like it thats all that matters.

[Truegiant]

I'm just saying you could have gotten a better gun. I've fired it enough to know I didn't like it. But I also didn't like how it felt, which is a big thing with hand guns. It has to feel right, and it felt cheap and blocky in my hands. But also people have different hands. The biggest problem I had was the single action semi auto, and the lack of a safety.

For the money I would have bought a Taurus of some type. I wouldn't say I'm wrong, there are just simply better guns out there and the Sigma isn't good for me would be a better way to put it. If you like it thats all that matters.

Definately not a single action gun... And the built in safety is on the trigger. And as far as I am concerned the only safety a gun needs! haha.. j/k

[r_Senik]

yea i bought mine used..but it had only like 50 rounds through it.
but the taurus pt940 is most likely my next handgun purchase.

[VTECking]

.22 best for target, if your looking for carry dont go below 9mm but personally Id rather carry a .40 or .45

[Starrfire]

Definately not a single action gun... And the built in safety is on the trigger. And as far as I am concerned the only safety a gun needs! haha.. j/k


Its single action is... that it is double action only lol, unlike guns with a hammer which have single/double action triggers which I like a lot better becuase trugger pull is much lighter most of the time. The lacking of a safety is just strange to me.

[Truegiant]

I still dont understand what you said.

There is no such thing as calling a double action a single only action. Its one or the other or both.

Anywho..

BUY A 1911 AND GET IT OVER WITH!

[Slomaro Z28]

BUY A 1911 AND GET IT OVER WITH!

Here are my choices....:goodjob:

Springfield EMP
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h187/Southernbabe0906/SA_1911_EMP_40Cal_PI9240LP_A.jpg

or

Kimber
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h187/Southernbabe0906/Ultra-CDP-II.jpg

or

Les Baer Custom (hand built)
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h187/Southernbabe0906/lb2LesBaerExtTactRgt.jpg


Edit: I'll add a wallet friendly one in there also

Taurus
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h187/Southernbabe0906/1911cal45ACPRt1.jpg

[r_Senik]

if only the wallet friendly one came in a compact size...or do they?

[Danny]

U put a taurus and a les baer in the same post. shame on you. :D

[Slomaro Z28]

U put a taurus and a les baer in the same post. shame on you. :D

LOL, not everyone can afford those.....had to have an affordable one somewhere in my post.


if only the wallet friendly one came in a compact size...or do they?

Not that I know of.

[Truegiant]

you can pick up a cheaper ria or high standard compact for $350-400 used, start shooting it and get used to the action/gun and then start to customize. it gets addictive.