View Full Version : F20C or F22C swap
On_Her_Face
01-09-2010, 03:54 PM
into a FWD chassis and keeping it FWD, has it been done before? Also what tranny? Does anybody have a link to a build?
AllStreet
01-09-2010, 04:00 PM
I've seen a CRX Build on HT, but I think he never finished it.
But there is a corvette swapped Hatchback. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEOTkIQlQac&feature=related
punkr6
01-09-2010, 04:01 PM
I've seen it in a ek civic....
chorne1787
01-09-2010, 04:02 PM
it was a k series tranny same engine sort of just different size flywheel when it comes to the swap i think you have to modify the starter location to accommodate the lager flywheel if i remember what i read right there was a f20c (i believe) swapped hatch on here about 2 months ago it is not cost effective but hey it would be cool as fuck just like the last one but in a ep or fg not in a ek or eg imo
On_Her_Face
01-09-2010, 04:02 PM
no link to a build?
AllStreet
01-09-2010, 04:04 PM
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e140/jlicrx/RWDCRX.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e140/jlicrx/RWDCRX2.jpg
AllStreet
01-09-2010, 04:05 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0c6lFQE2xk
On_Her_Face
01-09-2010, 04:06 PM
Yeah that's not keeping it FWD but the video is.. lol
sprix!
01-09-2010, 04:07 PM
Why not swap to a K series? Seems like it would be a better choice.
On_Her_Face
01-09-2010, 04:09 PM
Why not swap to a K series? Seems like it would be a better choice.
I already have a K series, I am just asking questions. My knowledge of Honda is very sub-par.
To be like everyone else?lol.
OP - all the f20c swaps i've seen online/person, people have used a modded 6spd s2k gearbox with a s2k differential.
I have not found much information on this swap but I did read an accord tranny works?...
AllStreet
01-09-2010, 04:15 PM
I already have a K series, I am just asking questions. My knowledge of Honda is very sub-par.
I have not found much information on this swap but I did read an accord tranny works?...
It should work, not 100% sure on that.
But, if you already have a K, why not just build it or boost?
On_Her_Face
01-09-2010, 04:19 PM
It should work, not 100% sure on that.
But, if you already have a K, why not just build it or boost?
I am just curious, and wanted to see a FWD platform with a F20C or F22C while keeping it FWD.
My K is stock and in an RSX-S... it's for sale but if I keep it I want to keep the motor n/a and do a "floating" engine bay.
JDMGRNAV6
01-09-2010, 04:21 PM
cause the s2k motor is being different... thats the whole point i believe
chorne1787
01-09-2010, 05:01 PM
exactly if you have the money to throw at it do it it is badass
Z0_o6
01-09-2010, 05:12 PM
it can be done, there are f2k setups out there, its similar to an h2b setup where you use an adapter plate etc to use the FWD tranny with the F20C. check out K20a.org to find it. pointless though IMHO, because the K20 and the F20 are very similar engines except the K has the advantage of cam-phase adjustment. Build your K20.
SPOOLIN
01-09-2010, 05:22 PM
inline pro has a kit, there is one on HT for sale right now. Sad thing is when its installed it looks like a k swap lol. Kit came out last year. There are one or 2 all motor race cars with this setup.
http://www.honda-tech.com/showpost.php?p=41140022&postcount=45
On_Her_Face
01-09-2010, 06:41 PM
it can be done, there are f2k setups out there, its similar to an h2b setup where you use an adapter plate etc to use the FWD tranny with the F20C. check out K20a.org to find it. pointless though IMHO, because the K20 and the F20 are very similar engines except the K has the advantage of cam-phase adjustment. Build your K20.
Yeah I was just wondering about the swap, if it was worth it, pros/cons, and no doing stuff to be different is homo. A lot of people do certain engine swaps for a reason, price, more reliable, better power, etc.
Starrfire
01-09-2010, 07:57 PM
Just search "F2K swap". You'll get a few results, at least a picture of what it looks like. It does look a lot like a K swap though.
lude66
01-09-2010, 08:10 PM
gforce transmission is the only one i know with trannys like that.
http://www.gforcetransmissions.com/
SPOOLIN
01-09-2010, 09:37 PM
gforce transmission is the only one i know with trannys like that.
http://www.gforcetransmissions.com/
For the F swap in a civic you just need a regular k series tranny.
On_Her_Face
01-09-2010, 11:06 PM
For the F swap in a civic you just need a regular k series tranny.
So in a RSX it would hook up to the tranny? I would just to move some stuff and get an adapter for the tranny or would it bolt right up?
Also do the motors both spin clockwise?
Vteckidd
01-09-2010, 11:08 PM
Big waste of money it's not sick at all.
Less cam choices
less header choices
less engine managment choices
parts cost more
k series or b series or h2b is far better choice
Vteckidd
01-09-2010, 11:10 PM
Pulling an rsx motor to do an f20/f22 swap from an s2000 is like pulling an 95 sohc nonvtec motor for a 96 sohc non vtec motor. There is no difference in power or anything
s2k is less mod friendly motor etc
it's pointless
On_Her_Face
01-09-2010, 11:13 PM
Like I said I'm just asking questions...
Vteckidd
01-09-2010, 11:33 PM
I was responding to the guys saying "omg it's sick I'd do it"
it's just do you can say you have an s2000 swap that's it's.
On_Her_Face
01-10-2010, 12:05 AM
I was responding to the guys saying "omg it's sick I'd do it"
it's just do you can say you have an s2000 swap that's it's.
Yeah I was hoping it wouldn't be so comparable to a K20.
Z0_o6
01-10-2010, 01:11 AM
Yeah I was hoping it wouldn't be so comparable to a K20.
lol it's the same engine virtually except the K20A2 is i-VTEC meaning it's BETTER. people don't have to like the truth.
SPOOLIN
01-10-2010, 01:22 AM
So in a RSX it would hook up to the tranny? I would just to move some stuff and get an adapter for the tranny or would it bolt right up?
Also do the motors both spin clockwise?
you must have missed my post above.
http://importatlanta.com/forums/showpost.php?p=38695607&postcount=16
You have to have the adapter plates and clutch conversion parts etc. Yes they spin the same direction, they would have to for it to work.
I agree the swap is kinda retarded unless you just want a bone stock engine that makes 240hp in your civic instead of spending the same money on a built engine that will make the same power.
Vteckidd
01-10-2010, 01:23 AM
I think the only reason it was even attempted was because for some reason s2000 longblocks were cheaper than the rsx longblocks but this was 3-4 years ago.
The thought was run the cheap s2k longblock with rsx trans bam cheap kswap.
Not the case so much anymore. S2000 lacks the aftermarket support and development the k series has. It's routine to see 270-280whp k20-k24 engines on street cars. S2000 engines you almost never see that.
It's just totally backwards thnking. I'd like to see and argument for it
On_Her_Face
01-10-2010, 03:00 PM
you must have missed my post above.
http://importatlanta.com/forums/showpost.php?p=38695607&postcount=16
You have to have the adapter plates and clutch conversion parts etc. Yes they spin the same direction, they would have to for it to work.
I agree the swap is kinda retarded unless you just want a bone stock engine that makes 240hp in your civic instead of spending the same money on a built engine that will make the same power.
Yeah I did miss that. Thank you.
I think the only reason it was even attempted was because for some reason s2000 longblocks were cheaper than the rsx longblocks but this was 3-4 years ago.
The thought was run the cheap s2k longblock with rsx trans bam cheap kswap.
Not the case so much anymore. S2000 lacks the aftermarket support and development the k series has. It's routine to see 270-280whp k20-k24 engines on street cars. S2000 engines you almost never see that.
It's just totally backwards thnking. I'd like to see and argument for it
Ha no argument here, you all have made it seem pretty clear!
Black R
01-10-2010, 11:26 PM
I think the only reason it was even attempted was because for some reason s2000 longblocks were cheaper than the rsx longblocks but this was 3-4 years ago.
The thought was run the cheap s2k longblock with rsx trans bam cheap kswap.
Not the case so much anymore. S2000 lacks the aftermarket support and development the k series has. It's routine to see 270-280whp k20-k24 engines on street cars. S2000 engines you almost never see that.
It's just totally backwards thnking. I'd like to see and argument for it
That was the reason - f20c's were dirt ass cheap at the time because nobody wanted them for anything and all the s2k guys had them.
Franco Tirador
01-11-2010, 01:10 AM
it can be done, there are f2k setups out there, its similar to an h2b setup where you use an adapter plate etc to use the FWD tranny with the F20C. check out K20a.org to find it. pointless though IMHO, because the K20 and the F20 are very similar engines except the K has the advantage of cam-phase adjustment. Build your K20.
it can be done, there............
well he said the rest:D, the latest i heard is people putting the k20 head on the f20c, so it can have i-vtec, it's in one of those import mags, for all that just build you a k20, you can maybe even make it rev higher than an f20c
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