ATTN TAWKSICK! Agressive Fitment Inside

[bowdown201]

:idb: :goodjob:

http://i46.tinypic.com/27x08qx.jpg
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[Sol-Badguy]

:upchuck:

[CHADbee]

what size tires are those? :no:

[punkr6]

man, that car would look soooo good if the wheels were straight....:eek:

[oneSLOWex]

that car was cool with those wheels when he was one of the few that did it. they are way too popular now.

http://mobilespacesales.com/yahoo_site_admin/assets/images/down2earth_utility_trailer.259124907_std.jpg

[DC2NR]

Just saw these last night. Thought about getting a set done, but I don't really think it's worth it.

[dz332005]

wheels look good it has that euro tuner look

[DC2NR]

Diamond Racing

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2633/3828355769_f747f3a1a4_o.jpg

[Gabe]

yup he was one of the first ones to rock the DR wheels but i still think he should of stayed with his ccw's

[DC2NR]

yup he was one of the first ones to rock the DR wheels but i still think he should of stayed with his ccw's

I thought they were custom barrel drum steelies not DR.

[silverDA]

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[a94civicex]

diamond racing wheels are the s***!

[SpooL'DGsR]

man i soo think that brings the look of the car down... all jdm'd out to look down at some dually wheels on a civic... not my style, but thats my opinion..

[toxxxic]

whoever said those aren't diamond racing was correct :)

i love that car! with those wheels and the ccw's :)

[Brian*]

I like it

[jdmdb8itr]

old or not, those are some sick wheels

[Mr. Clean]

om nom nom nom. thread is win.

[oneSLOWex]

Same car?
http://www.hasback.com//images/11-9-08-205.jpg

If so, these are WAY better looking. The diamond racing or w/e the funk they are look cheap to me.

[Black4DrEK]

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MORE!!!

[EJ_Allmota]

Wow, Floss' car has been off those temporary joints for a while now.. he had got those made while he was waiting for his CCWs.. They were NOT Dimond Racing wheels :no:, they were some steelies he found that he got wider barrels put on.. shit was hard..

EDIT:oneSLOWex yea that i the same car, those were his BBS RMs then he did the steelies, then the CCWs.. id post a pic but have no access to my external harddrive because im at work..

[blown_ss]

i love this car.

[oneSLOWex]

Wow, Floss' car has been off those temporary joints for a while now.. he had got those made while he was waiting for his CCWs.. They were NOT Dimond Racing wheels :no:, they were some steelies he found that he got wider barrels put on.. shit was hard..

are there any pics of it from the side so you can actually see the wheels or does it look like dookiez?

[DC2NR]

http://88.198.21.167/atpic2/5502/28468/0/1426663/600.jpg
http://88.198.21.167/atpic2/5502/28468/0/1426671/600.jpg

[ItsBlack]

Looks sick, I love white on black

[Genji-Sama]

Oooh, a little camber goes a long way. sick!

[.:Stirfry:.]

me like, im in love,
i want my ek to look that clean

[EJ_Allmota]

are there any pics of it from the side so you can actually see the wheels or does it look like dookiez?you should be able to find at least one side shot of his joint.. Its not appealing from the side though, quite plain almose like a plate wheel.. the Dimond Racing joints looks better than his from the side..

[08turb@x]

where can one buy these at

any sites?

[bowdown201]

http://i49.tinypic.com/311mn1h.jpg
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http://i47.tinypic.com/28luduf.jpg
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[toxxxic]

^ those are the ones i'm talking about :)

[Elbow]

LMFAO HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA THAT'S UGLY AS FUCK...IS THIS SERIOUS?!

[5speed]

LMFAO HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA THAT'S UGLY AS FUCK...IS THIS SERIOUS?!
X2 This is fucking stupid. Really guys,...Really? :thinking: :no:

[AnthonyF]

the rear angle made me vomit. :(

I really like that teggy though. That looks really nice.

-Ant.

[bowdown201]

the rear angle made me vomit. :(

I really like that teggy though. That looks really nice.

-Ant.

Go watch porn :boobies:

[Elbow]

:idb: :goodjob:

http://i46.tinypic.com/27x08qx.jpg
http://i48.tinypic.com/293g4g5.jpg

I HAVE TO SAY IT AGAIN.

This is UGLY as FUCK..this is not my opinion. This is just known to anyone with a decent brain. The wheels are like spares. What are they? 15x3's? :lmfao:

I mean what the hell is the point in making your car look like this??? :???:

[bowdown201]

I HAVE TO SAY IT AGAIN.

This is UGLY as FUCK..this is not my opinion. This is just known to anyone with a decent brain. The wheels are like spares. What are they? 15x3's? :lmfao:

I mean what the hell is the point in making your car look like this??? :???:

No one gives a fuck about your OPINION. If you dont like it thats good, get the hell on. The BMW section is that way >>>>>>>>

[toxxxic]

I HAVE TO SAY IT AGAIN.

This is UGLY as FUCK..this is not my opinion. This is just known to anyone with a decent brain. The wheels are like spares. What are they? 15x3's? :lmfao:

I mean what the hell is the point in making your car look like this??? :???:

My car looks like this :thinking:

[Elbow]

My car looks like this :thinking:

Your car has space saver spares on it? :thinking:

[DC2NR]

I HAVE TO SAY IT AGAIN.

This is UGLY as FUCK..this is not my opinion. This is just known to anyone with a decent brain. The wheels are like spares. What are they? 15x3's? :lmfao:

I mean what the hell is the point in making your car look like this??? :???:

It means having it the way you want it.

[Elbow]

No one gives a fuck about your OPINION. If you dont like it thats good, get the hell on. The BMW section is that way >>>>>>>>

That's a fucking fact son.

I don't even like BMW's what are you getting at? Do I flaunt BMW like it's something special? BMW owners dump cars too and go for "gayment" but at least smart people use wheels wider then my dick.

[FoolsDrifFWD]

lol whats the offset +10000 honda offsets is so lol

[5speed]

I just really don't understand. It doesn't look appealing to me at all. Maybe its a Honda thing IDK.

[AnthonyF]

Go watch porn :boobies:
lol bc it brings u happiness. Now that EK is fucking dope.

-Ant.

[silverDA]

MORE!!!

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http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii90/jdmintegra22/790bd972.jpg

[5speed]

Ummm...ok. WTF is good about that? Damn I'm glad I got out of the Honda Civic game before I even began the mods. I'm glad I wont have to be associated with Civic people.

[AnthonyF]

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i posted something gross
This looks TERRIBLE. What the fuck. The car is gloss black, at least paint the rims to match so you don't look like your driving a bomb. Do the calipers too...jesus. Kids these days.

-Ant.

[Black4DrEK]

Ummm...ok. WTF is good about that? Damn I'm glad I got out of the Honda Civic game before I even began the mods. I'm glad I wont have to be associated with Civic people.




^^hhnmmmm SOOO GTFO the thread then.. lol.. iss that simple!

[5speed]

^^hhnmmmm SOOO GTFO the thread then.. lol.. iss that simple!
LOL, just waiting to see why people like it. A Civic can look good, just not on those rims. Please explain what you like about them.

[KevinT707]

man i soo think that brings the look of the car down... all jdm'd out to look down at some dually wheels on a civic... not my style, but thats my opinion..
Agreed.

What has this world came down to? The next cool thing is to find some aggressive fitting Motegi wheels I'm sure.

[Black4DrEK]

The OP ek hatch doesnt have the "trailor park wheels" on it..:goodjob:

they were custom.. and look different. and all the other wheels on the White EK looked nice!

and for the EM1 that shit was juss dumpd and looked crazy.

[GangstaCoupe]

Ask anyone who doesn't have their head stuck up a Honda fan boy's ass and they will tell you this steel wheel craze looks like shit.

[SpooL'DGsR]

Same car?
http://www.hasback.com//images/11-9-08-205.jpg

If so, these are WAY better looking. The diamond racing or w/e the funk they are look cheap to me.


win! win! win!

[5speed]

^ Those look so nice, the OP looks like crap.

[SpooL'DGsR]

how would the black rims be better than the shine??

[VooDooXII]

For some reason, the body looks ENORMOUS on that wheel/tire setup.

[jmotley]

fuck haters i love it! :goodjob:

[importracer]

Ummm...ok. WTF is good about that? Damn I'm glad I got out of the Honda Civic game before I even began the mods. I'm glad I wont have to be associated with Civic people.


then why you in this tread? when you saw it was a honda you should have left.

[bowdown201]

To each their own...dunno why people cant grasp that concept

[swollix]

Narrow ass wheels look like shit from behind...

[Elbow]

Narrow ass wheels look like shit from behind...

Yep, exactly. I see the car going down the road bouncing like hell, horrible Honda sound, and driver with the Honda ricer reclined back with a hat tilted up and a gay ass looking goatee.

[bdydrpdmazda]

the CCWs look alright on it but the other two sets of wheels are a no-go for me...

[Humphrizzle]

these are widened steelies.. custom.

[Elbow]

these are widened steelies.. custom.

Widened steelies..now THAT's cool. :lmfao:

[Humphrizzle]

Widened steelies..now THAT's cool. :lmfao:


keep your ride mainstream.. others will continue to do things you dont like.

:goodjob:

[Elbow]

keep your ride mainstream.. others will continue to do things you dont like.

:goodjob:

Huh? My ride is mainstream? :???:

[JITB]

lol it said it was a fitment thread, so why enter if this stuff makes you angry...lol

[Humphrizzle]

lol.. idk what you even drive..

[hybrid90accord]

I guess everyone is gonna now go from Rotas to trailer wheels SMDH.......

[Mista Foe-Doe]

i would rock diamond race wheels fully polish....BLING BLING...lol

[Humphrizzle]

i want some.. have for about 2 years.

[Jaimecbr900]

I don't usually opinionate on these types of threads, but I too don't get what is so "special" about that car? I never understood the "cool" factor of any steelies on any car, but apparently people think it's cool.

Someone please explain what is "special" about that car.

[JITB]

I don't usually opinionate on these types of threads, but I too don't get what is so "special" about that car? I never understood the "cool" factor of any steelies on any car, but apparently people think it's cool.

Someone please explain what is "special" about that car.

fitment on the diamond raincg "type" wheels, but the fitment on that white hatch isnt even that great.. its fine. but its not perfect..

[quickdodge®]

I never understood the "cool" factor of any steelies on any car, but apparently people think it's cool.

Damn, you're the second person that has said that I'm doing it wrong. Damn. Later, QD.

[Jaimecbr900]

fitment on the diamond raincg "type" wheels, but the fitment on that white hatch isnt even that great.. its fine. but its not perfect..

By "fitment" are you trying to say that they were able to shove them on and tighten the lug nuts on it and roll down the street, or are you saying that they fight properly on the car? :thinking:

Since this has been brought up in this thread, I'll ask again. Someone, anyone, please explain to me just what the "cool" factor is to putting ANY steelies on ANY car. It's one thing to have cheap ugly wheels on a car. That is a matter of bad taste and low funds. But to put wheels which look like a cheap spare tire????? What's the "cool" factor about that? Please explain.

[Humphrizzle]

no biggy.. im ridin on dookies, too!

[Humphrizzle]

By "fitment" are you trying to say that they were able to shove them on and tighten the lug nuts on it and roll down the street, or are you saying that they fight properly on the car? :thinking:

Since this has been brought up in this thread, I'll ask again. Someone, anyone, please explain to me just what the "cool" factor is to putting ANY steelies on ANY car. It's one thing to have cheap ugly wheels on a car. That is a matter of bad taste and low funds. But to put wheels which look like a cheap spare tire????? What's the "cool" factor about that? Please explain.


yes.. they fight properly..

[Jaimecbr900]

Damn, you're the second person that has said that I'm doing it wrong. Damn. Later, QD.

Please tell me you don't have steelies on your car.....please.

[PURP]

If you don't like it, then fine. But just because you don't see or understand the reasons why others do, doesn't mean you need to jump on the haterwagon. The steelies on this car,(the white civic) Do not look good. As Joseph said, it's mainly because the fitment isn't good. I personally hate the ccw's on the car too. Mainly because I just hate ccw's. But I am a fan of steel wheels that are properly fitted to a car/truck. They just have to flow well with the vehicle that they are on.

[Benefit]

lmao @ that hatch

[JITB]

By "fitment" are you trying to say that they were able to shove them on and tighten the lug nuts on it and roll down the street, or are you saying that they fight properly on the car? :thinking:

Since this has been brought up in this thread, I'll ask again. Someone, anyone, please explain to me just what the "cool" factor is to putting ANY steelies on ANY car. It's one thing to have cheap ugly wheels on a car. That is a matter of bad taste and low funds. But to put wheels which look like a cheap spare tire????? What's the "cool" factor about that? Please explain.

well those are steelies, but i never liked the look, only because ive drove with steelies..and the last thing i want to do is buy some wheels that look like steelies. but that car was riding on those steelies only for a short term in between wheel changes..

The cool factor is the width, more than anything.. but i don tlike it on all cars.. some can pull it off. But its mainly coming from the vw world.. hondas been biting their style for years now... but its not all a bad thing. But not all hondas can do what vws do..

[quickdodge®]

Please tell me you don't have steelies on your car.....please.

Later, QD?

[TheChosenOne]

I like it. Fuck what other people think... they don't pay his bills. :D

[Jaimecbr900]

If you don't like it, then fine. But just because you don't see or understand the reasons why others do, doesn't mean you need to jump on the haterwagon. The steelies on this car,(the white civic) Do not look good. As Joseph said, it's mainly because the fitment isn't good. I personally hate the ccw's on the car too. Mainly because I just hate ccw's. But I am a fan of steel wheels that are properly fitted to a car/truck. They just have to flow well with the vehicle that they are on.

You're right. I don't like it. Still doesn't change the fact that even you, who obviously does like that trend, can't even explain what it is they like about putting on a wheel that looks more like a spare than a custom wheel. It was a simple enough question. If you can't answer it, then don't try.

A simple, "I'm a bandwagon rider JDM tyte type and have no damn clue why I like some cheap looking wheels but I had to have them anyway..." would've sufficed. :goodjob::rolleyes:

BTW, "fitment" means it FITS properly. If you have -50 camber because the car is so slammed and the wheels are wrong, the it kinda defeats the word's meaning. Right? A wheel that has proper "fitment" should never make the car look like a squating duck.

To each their own. I've just never had anyone intelligently explain why they like the steelie trend, so I asked in here since it seems this thread had a ton of people really digging the look.

[Jaimecbr900]

well those are steelies, but i never liked the look, only because ive drove with steelies..and the last thing i want to do is buy some wheels that look like steelies. but that car was riding on those steelies only for a short term in between wheel changes..

The cool factor is the width, more than anything.. but i don tlike it on all cars.. some can pull it off. But its mainly coming from the vw world.. hondas been biting their style for years now... but its not all a bad thing. But not all hondas can do what vws do..


The first person to actually explain something properly. Props. :goodjob:

[Jaimecbr900]

Later, QD?


That's different, you Homo....sapien.:D

Those are factory style wheels for that car with beauty rings. That's not like you went to the junkyard and stole 4 spares out of a Buick and put them on a Honda.

[Humphrizzle]

why is everything about being JDM?

it's just about me liking a wheel..

I'm not JDM because I eat sushi or I'm not EDM because I drink tea...

why is JDM automatically associated with everything that is honda-related?

[JITB]

BTW, "fitment" means it FITS properly. If you have -50 camber because the car is so slammed and the wheels are wrong, the it kinda defeats the word's meaning. Right? A wheel that has proper "fitment" should never make the car look like a squating duck.



u forgot the word "Aggressive" Fitment! there is a difference! Cmon you know what its all about you drive a GS..i know youve seen it all.

[JITB]

why is everything about being JDM?

it's just about me liking a wheel..

I'm not JDM because I eat sushi or I'm not EDM because I drink tea...

why is JDM automatically associated with everything that is honda-related?

you know i am on a few forums from other countries, and i think the Us officially has its own style.. where they once were calling a kitted out import with 18's american style, they are now referring to this aggressive fitment look as Us style..

[quickdodge®]

That's different, you Homo....sapien.:D

Those are factory style wheels for that car with beauty rings. That's not like you went to the junkyard and stole 4 spares out of a Buick and put them on a Honda.

Heheh. Thank you, sir.


they are now referring to this aggressive fitment look as Us style..

Who refers to it as US style? Europeans have been doing "fitments" like that for many years. I've had European car magazines from the 80s with cars dropped down on wheels like that. Aside from hot rodding, I don't anything that the US has really created. Later, QD.

[Jaimecbr900]

why is everything about being JDM?

it's just about me liking a wheel..

I'm not JDM because I eat sushi or I'm not EDM because I drink tea...

why is JDM automatically associated with everything that is honda-related?

#1. Explain what it is that you "like" about a wheel that looks like a spare tire.

#2. Where did this trend originate?

[Humphrizzle]

yeah.. americans have a different style.. i dont think of anything as JDM.. its East coast and west coast mainly...

west coast is big, flashy, expensive and sometimes fast.

east coast is flawless, detailed, and thought out modifications.

[Humphrizzle]

#1. Explain what it is that you "like" about a wheel that looks like a spare tire.

#2. Where did this trend originate?


I like it because it looks good to me.

I dont believe it to be a trend but if i were to guess, i'd say it began in fucking california... where the car is located.

[Jaimecbr900]

u forgot the word "Aggressive" Fitment! there is a difference! Cmon you know what its all about you drive a GS..i know youve seen it all.

So it's like the VIP style in Lexus, except for Honda's? I understand those terms. :goodjob:

[JITB]

So it's like the VIP style in Lexus, except for Honda's? I understand those terms. :goodjob:

its more like the little guys want a big body.. so they do big body things...:lmfao:

[Jaimecbr900]

I like it because it looks good to me.

Ok, to each their own.


I dont believe it to be a trend but if i were to guess, i'd say it began in fucking california... where the car is located.

So you're saying that very car started it all????? :rolleyes:

[Humphrizzle]

sure.. i've never seen another white honda civic hatchback on widened steelies.. have you?

[JDMGRNAV6]

everyone can have their own style, and i absolutely hate the word vip.

and the wheels look okay, i like them, but jus wish they had wider tires

[JDMGRNAV6]

its more like the little guys want a big body.. so they do big body things...:lmfao:


some cars it looks straight!!

[97WhYt_TeG]

i dont think this is the same car but looks the same....looks way better with the bys bumper......

http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w283/dsoc/hellaflush.jpg

http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w283/dsoc/hellaflush2.jpg

http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w283/dsoc/hellaflush3.jpg

[JDMGRNAV6]

thats soo purty

[bowdown201]

Lol good lord people I only made the thread to pick at Toxxxic. I never said I think that car looks badass on "steelies".

[Jaimecbr900]

sure.. i've never seen another white honda civic hatchback on widened steelies.. have you?


Then by gooly jeepers, because YOU haven't seen one then that HAS TO BE the Holy Grail of trend setters with the steelies on a white car....:rolleyes:

Give me a break dude. The steelies trend has been going on for a while now.

Question: Why not just figure out what the offset needed to have the wheels come out to the edge of the fender is and get a regular, i.e. nice looking, wheel on there? It can't be that hard to figure out or is it?

[JITB]

Then by gooly jeepers, because YOU haven't seen one then that HAS TO BE the Holy Grail of trend setters with the steelies on a white car....:rolleyes:

Give me a break dude. The steelies trend has been going on for a while now.

Question: Why not just figure out what the offset needed to have the wheels come out to the edge of the fender is and get a regular, i.e. nice looking, wheel on there? It can't be that hard to figure out or is it?

u just figured it out..lol, the diamond Racing steel wheels, are really the cheap/easy way to get this, you can order them custom size/offset/width. So alot of people get them . because buying a 15x8/9/10" with a low or single digit offset, is expensive.

[Jaimecbr900]

u just figured it out..lol, the diamond Racing steel wheels, are really the cheap/easy way to get this, you can order them custom size/offset/width. So alot of people get them . because buying a 15x8/9/10" with a low or single digit offset, is expensive.

See, that was simple enough.....it's the inexpensive way to get a cloned wheel look for less. THAT is a reason for doing this wheel set up.

Thank you. :goodjob:

[Humphrizzle]

Then by gooly jeepers, because YOU haven't seen one then that HAS TO BE the Holy Grail of trend setters with the steelies on a white car....:rolleyes:

Give me a break dude. The steelies trend has been going on for a while now.

Question: Why not just figure out what the offset needed to have the wheels come out to the edge of the fender is and get a regular, i.e. nice looking, wheel on there? It can't be that hard to figure out or is it?


steelies are stock on civics.. cutting the face off a steel wheel, and finding a 7.5-8 inch barrel to replace a 5'' barrel is different than riding with random stock hubcap-less wheels.

[cactusEG]

They look interesting, But I wouldnt own a set !

[PURP]

You're right. I don't like it. Still doesn't change the fact that even you, who obviously does like that trend, can't even explain what it is they like about putting on a wheel that looks more like a spare than a custom wheel. It was a simple enough question. If you can't answer it, then don't try.

A simple, "I'm a bandwagon rider JDM tyte type and have no damn clue why I like some cheap looking wheels but I had to have them anyway..." would've sufficed. :goodjob::rolleyes:

BTW, "fitment" means it FITS properly. If you have -50 camber because the car is so slammed and the wheels are wrong, the it kinda defeats the word's meaning. Right? A wheel that has proper "fitment" should never make the car look like a squating duck.

To each their own. I've just never had anyone intelligently explain why they like the steelie trend, so I asked in here since it seems this thread had a ton of people really digging the look.

I follow no trends. I do what I like and when I like it. Calling me something that is nowhere near my style or likings is absurd.

If you would have read my post. It clearly stated that I like the steel wheel thing when it is properly exacuted. IE: There's a newer model tacoma near me that has crager 8's or something along those lines on it. Fits the truck properly and flows really nice with the theme he has. I had an s-10 with 15x8 steel ralley wheels. they set perfectly in the pocket and looked great. I've seen plenty of cars that have them sitting with no camber, tucked perfectly under the fenders and it looks great. It seems you've limited yourself to the honda scene, saying it looks like shit and dumb. If the person that puts them on their car thinks it looks "cool", then guess what, to them it does. Your opinion will not change theirs unless they fall victim to caring what others think about their car.

You have the way you view things about it and I have mine. I have a feeling we will not agree on this and that doesn't bother me. That's your right. To have your own opinion on things like this, as myself do too.

I will not respond anymore about this in this thread. I will not even read anymore of it.

Just stating my 10 cents

Thank you and good night

[Humphrizzle]

trends are for lewzurs.

[bowdown201]

I follow no trends. I do what I like and when I like it. Calling me something that is nowhere near my style or likings is absurd.

If you would have read my post. It clearly stated that I like the steel wheel thing when it is properly exacuted. IE: There's a newer model tacoma near me that has crager 8's or something along those lines on it. Fits the truck properly and flows really nice with the theme he has. I had an s-10 with 15x8 steel ralley wheels. they set perfectly in the pocket and looked great. I've seen plenty of cars that have them sitting with no camber, tucked perfectly under the fenders and it looks great. It seems you've limited yourself to the honda scene, saying it looks like shit and dumb. If the person that puts them on their car thinks it looks "cool", then guess what, to them it does. Your opinion will not change theirs unless they fall victim to caring what others think about their car.

You have the way you view things about it and I have mine. I have a feeling we will not agree on this and that doesn't bother me. That's your right. To have your own opinion on things like this, as myself do too.

I will not respond anymore about this in this thread. I will not even read anymore of it.

Just stating my 10 cents

Thank you and good night

Couldnt have said it better myself

[quickdodge®]

Couldnt have said it better myself

I could have.

Lolol. Later, QD.

[bowdown201]

I could have.

Lolol. Later, QD.

You get a lot of practice also lol

[Jaimecbr900]

Good God! Yall wanna rock spare tires, rock em' by God. I can't put a spare tire on my car even if I wanted to, so whatever.

There's an old saying: You can polish a turd, but in the end it's still a turd....just shiny. :rolleyes: If it looks like a spare tire off a Buick, then that's what it looks like. Yall are all trying so damn hard to convince me that it's uber fresh, JDM tyte, and full "custom" because you stretch out a steel wheel. Fine. If you can tell me I'm an idiot for not getting why people call stock steel wheels "cool", then I can call you an idiot for not being able to answer a simple question too.

You guys are right. If the owner likes it, then that's all that matters. Totally agree. By the same token, don't get your vagina all sandy when I don't find it to be my cup of tea either. Right?