ok i changed my mind im gonna do it

[cprtyler]

ok guys give me input i already have a na b series and in process of turbo lsv. i feel like im steping back but i was told by a friend to give a try so i am. heres what my plans are.

a6 block bored 20 over
p29 pistons
eagle rods
crank micro polished to 10k
y8 head
ported polished and 3 angle valve job
crower valve train
stage 3 cam
toda cam gear
p28 chipped with chrome
330cc injectors
skunk 2 intakemani
obx 60mm tb
hondata tb/im gasket
bisi or tri y header
skunk2 fuel rail and fpr
msd dizzy
nology wires
pulse star plugs
light weight pullys
93 del sol tranny
with light weight flywheel
stage 2/3 clutch
aftermarket lsd

i figure about 160/180hp area is this realistic? no negitive comments just some advice on what u think

[punkr6]

it will be fun, thats for sure...G/L

[cprtyler]

ya i think so i doubt its a dd lol

[Starrfire]

a lot of money for about 150 wheel. Its not gonna be worth it my man.

[cprtyler]

thats just a guess on hp i have block and tranny rods crank pistons and few other things already just waitin to be assembled i may have 100 bucks tied up in it all, i figure cams abd headers is where ill spend most money though. but i think i underestamated on power will c lol thanks though

[Starrfire]

have you looked at a lot of all motor d graphs? not really big power. Like bolt on gsr power on a fully built one.

[cprtyler]

i know its not a gsr but like punkr6 said it will b fun iv seen all kind of numbers and graphs on d's anywhere from 130-230 na'd i just want to build a d before i sell the b's and d to go hseries you know i know some stuff is pricy thats fine, i know numbers may be more or less but its just for fun i was dared to build it on my specs to c what i could get and we have alil cash on it so mainly for fun ya know, who knows might get a crx and drag it if the comp. and numbers sre good for ME. throw me numbers u woukd expect to c

[Starrfire]

145-150 wheel hp/ 120 wheel torque. Who's gonna build it?

[allmotorX]

ok guys give me input i already have a na b series and in process of turbo lsv. i feel like im steping back but i was told by a friend to give a try so i am. heres what my plans are.

a6 block bored 20 over
p29 pistons
eagle rods (STOCK RODS ARE JUST FINE FOR N/A)
crank micro polished to 10k
y8 head
ported polished and 3 angle valve job
crower valve train
stage 3 cam
toda cam gear
p28 chipped with chrome
330cc injectors( YOU WONT MAKE ENOUGH TO COMPENSATE FOR THE EXTRA FUEL SO STOCK 240CC ARE GOOD)
skunk 2 intakemani
obx 60mm tb( STOCK IS GOOD DONT WASTE UR MONEY)
hondata tb/im gasket
bisi or tri y header( bISI IS THE SHIT JUST SAYIN)
skunk2 fuel rail and fpr( STOCK FUEL RAIL IS GOOD FOR UP TO 400HP NO NEED FOR BIGGER ONE)
msd dizzy( DONT NEED tHIS EITHER)
nology wires
pulse star plugs
light weight pullys( YOU MUST PLAN ON CHANGING YOUR BEARINGS SOON)
93 del sol tranny
with light weight flywheel
stage 2/3 clutch
aftermarket lsd

i figure about 160/180hp area is this realistic? no negitive comments just some advice on what u thinkFixed with all that said you dont really have to many power adders save most of your money for tuning and ill say you could reach 160whp but who knows i have a n/a d im not shooting high at all should run pretty decent though

[cprtyler]

the motor is going to be completely redone me and a buddy of mine are rebuilding it (he himself has a turbod d thats close to 350) everything going to be vated, and everything. allmotorx what else u suggest as power adders

[a94civicex]

Well, I've seen a few d series builds & heard of a few d series builds that can run from 170hp to about 240hp for a total cost of $1500.... It's a long shot in most builders minds that a d series can't lay this much power down as a na build but like I said I have seen it done & read from other forums, so it's defiantley not a wast of time, but I'm sure according to other builders (which names won't be said) from this forum it would be.... I say go for it because I'm going to build mine basically the same way but the only difference is I will be boosted & shooting for around 360hp as close as I can to 300 ft lb torque but the trq is a long shot....

Reps for (cprtyler) on finally coming around to wanting to play with a d series....

[allmotorX]

the motor is going to be completely redone me and a buddy of mine are rebuilding it (he himself has a turbod d thats close to 350) everything going to be vated, and everything. allmotorx what else u suggest as power addersYour headed in the right direction already basically a good ported head increase the displacement a lil .40over bore basically 76mm. Aggressive cam with good amount of compression, also you could go with a dc sport header if you dont want to wait 2weeks for bisi header or if money is an issue and just modify the collector on it and the basic bolt ons could put you anywhere from 135-160whp with a good tune

[allmotorX]

and a far as bottom end use stock rods with arp rods bolts and your good to go

[Starrfire]

240 hp please, even crank that is pushing it.

[Jdmsol]

Its possible I was goin to do it but went b instead and decided to hand it off to a loving home lol good luck bro and well c what happens when its done.... Your old sol against what ever u put the d in!!!!! lololol :goodjob:

[cprtyler]

so .40 over instead of .20 huh ok i really looking to build the piss outa this so thanks on cam go bigger then a stage 3? and ya mr ex finally lol i said never but im eating that lol

[cprtyler]

na ill leave that for the 4door lol jdmsol, i have dudes buil on that 240hp na but way to pricy lol id like 200 if any suggestions lol

[allmotorX]

so .40 over instead of .20 huh ok i really looking to build the piss outa this so thanks on cam go bigger then a stage 3? and ya mr ex finally lol i said never but im eating that lolIt all depends on your goal bigger isnt always better just look at a few cam specs and see which one would be suitable for you

[Starrfire]

I had an all motor D once, my first build I did. All the good stuff. HATED it for the money, but everyone has to learn. Or maybe budgets are set, money is tight, if so then disregard my other statements. turbo that shit, I've built turbo engine's for people as well, that would be the ONLY D i would have ever again.

[a94civicex]

240 hp please, even crank that is pushing it.



If it's done right & the budget can expand, nothing is impossible.... I say just shoot for 200hp.... There's alot of other forums like civic-eg.com that have alot of na'd & boosted builds.... The highest amount of hp for a boosted d series that I've seen & perform was I believe 416hp.... But there are other boosted d series with way more power, just saying it what I've seen.... So like I said to go na and want to shoot for 200hp isn't a long shot at all.... It just depends on your budget & what items you choose to run with....

But everyone has their agreements & disagreements about it.... I say run for 200hp just because it would be an insane build & blow alot of Honda owners minds when you could possibly run a low 12 in 1/4 mile pass on a d series build with street tires, maybe lower if you run with drag radials.....

[cprtyler]

i have a budget yes may go over alil lol i m building a boosted lsv i just wanna try and c what kind of power i can get 190 or so would be great not going to b dd but for fun on weekends at track im looking for best cam to suit my clearances on the p29 pistons

[a94civicex]

I had an all motor D once, my first build I did. All the good stuff. HATED it for the money, but everyone has to learn. Or maybe budgets are set, money is tight, if so then disregard my other statements. turbo that shit, I've built turbo engine's for people as well, that would be the ONLY D i would have ever again.



Point well made....

[a94civicex]

Damn thread is growing quickly....

[punkr6]

everyone should look at this before making judgments, very little mods and right at 130 whp. Not to bad for the $$$$

http://www.importatlanta.com/forums/showthread.php?t=268818

[cprtyler]

190-200 new goal lol

[allmotorX]

everyone should look at this before making judgments, very little mods and right at 130 whp. Not to bad for the $$$$

http://www.importatlanta.com/forums/showthread.php?t=268818Not bad at all makes me wonder wht ill make

[cprtyler]

me too im really interested

[a94civicex]

Not bad at all makes me wonder wht ill make



x2

[cprtyler]

im going to c if i can find build sgeet for that motor my friend in fl built

[allmotorX]

Post up once you do^^

[cprtyler]

^^^ ok i got to find it in school crap lol

[cprtyler]

ok so iv done 2 diff compression calculators with z6 block and y8 head plus p29 pistons compression is going to be about 14:1 so e85 or 110 octain will be my friend does this sound right

[Starrfire]

I'm seeing 12.64:1 on a stock bore on zealautowerks.com

[cprtyler]

sorry lol 2 layer headgaskt and 40 over

[Starrfire]

Eh the taking out of the middle layer of metal would be a little too much trouble, and .40 over may be a little much, but it may be safe.

[cprtyler]

so u suggest oem headgasket, ok. what do u think about itbs for a all race application cuz thats what i think im planning on doing strictly drag

[Starrfire]

big money for little power, just do a good intake manifold.

[cprtyler]

^^^^^ok check intake mani, i checked out that web site what feet did u put for atmosphere, whats a good valve train to prevent valve float at high rpms i want to spin at least 8500 or alil more. (im not asking u to look up parts i just know u said u built one pretty sure u know)

[Starrfire]

Supertech will be cheap but still good. But still gonna run about $600. Valves, and springs and retainers though.

[cprtyler]

ok supertech, what do u think bout ferria or crower, like i said building a race motor now so got to be highh revvin lol. any suggestions on a cam? dont really like bisi cam

[Starrfire]

Suppossedly Bisi makes awesome D series stuff. I like Ferrea and Crower, I've had them all.

[cprtyler]

iv just heard of too many breaking (sorry allmotorx) hes just one of dozens

[ash7]

ok supertech, what do u think bout ferria or crower, like i said building a race motor now so got to be highh revvin lol. any suggestions on a cam? dont really like bisi cam

why not just buy the KMS valvetrain package locally here in ATL and save yourself some money? That will be fine for what you're trying to do as far as preventing valve float at high RPMs.

Since your project engine has turned away from being a daily driver, why not look into getting a camshaft from Isky? Definitely a top notch company. :goodjob:

(Honda is on the bottom of pg177)
http://www.iskycams.com/onlinecatalog.html
-jonathan

[cprtyler]

^^^^ repd all (wow 1 freakin point lol) were can i find kms valve train and ill check out that cam thanks

[allmotorX]

iv just heard of too many breaking (sorry allmotorx) hes just one of dozensbisi makes great stuff well webcam actually, but im a lil discouraged from buying from them again since i didnt get to use the one i bought. .40 isnt to much at all anything over that im not to sure about, but im running a 76mm bore with pg6 pistons i was going with p29 but heard the flame travel through combustion chamber doesnt go to well with the dome shape.

[cprtyler]

^^^ yea i read ur who to blame thread i would say machine shop new there was a prob due to the no recipte, i really dont think the head was properly cleaned but also also think the last one with there hands on the valvetrain should have went through the head throughly but hey sh!Ť happens when u party naked lol. plus the flame travel is prob due to lack of octain and high comp just like the b16b pistons in a b series (just my opinion) idk. but hey would love to run ya at steele alabama or comicerce ga when we get them going lol just for fun.

[allmotorX]

Yea thats cool im waiting on my cam to come in then i should have it back on the road for good this time

[Supraboy87T]

^^^Back in action huh? I'll run when mine is done.

[Supraboy87T]

I love how everyone is building their D's now. And I thought I was the only crazy one. Cprtyler I'll run you once i'm done with mine too.

[cprtyler]

^^^ ok steel alabama or commerice? and i just want to build one mainly cause i jumped to a bseries, i want to build a d before i go h ya know lol.

[Jdmsol]

Ill run everyone but yall got to help me push lol

[cprtyler]

lol soon enough man soon enough. ull get sol running

[Supraboy87T]

Don't know when I'll be done but I'll guess somewhere he in ga. lol

[cprtyler]

^^^ thats cool u need to bring over the post that the guy who drives a da on your allmotor d build the one about 230hp show these guys what he did im tring to find my friends build that was like 210-220whp, mine should b complete around april or may

[ducky1177]

wished i had a sol
:ninja:

[cprtyler]

^^^^ lol its ok man u got a lude there real nice

[Jdmsol]

I wish mine ran

[cprtyler]

^^ dude im trying lol

[cprtyler]

any more suggestions

[allmotorX]

http://www.d-series.org/forums/naturally-aspirated/124323-new-record-crx-d16a6-all-motor-philippines.html

[cprtyler]

^^ thanks ill check it out