Super Speeder Law

[warpd]

I don't normally post on here much but this pisses me off so much and I'm sure almost everyone on here regardless of their political persuasion can understand how ridiculous this law is. The police are already used as tax collectors and this law just makes them super tax collectors. I feel like with the amount of people on this site there is the possibility of actually getting an effort going to repeal this bullshit before it does too much damage. There are enough people on this site to make a difference, is what I am saying. I for one as a conservative (a real conservative) will never vote for anyone again that signed this bill into law. For those that haven't heard of it: http://boortz.com/nealz_nuze/2009/12/georgias-superspeeder-law.html

[leobond001]

i HATE sonny perdue. he always looks out for the business's of GA and never the ppl.

And policeing now a days is a way to get money and not protect

[quickdodge®]

As I did in this same topic in the WL, I laugh at all the people that have a problem with this law. I think it's great and I approve this law!

I really do. No sarcasm. Later, QD.

[warpd]

As I did in this same topic in the WL, I laugh at all the people that have a problem with this law. I think it's great and I approve this law!

I really do. No sarcasm. Later, QD.

Why? Your gonna have to do better than that. I love it when my government fucks over its own citizens to make up for the taxes they already took and spent irresponsibly

[quickdodge®]

Why? Your gonna have to do better than that.

Do better than what? Later, QD.

[warpd]

Do better than what? Later, QD.

That lame response that has no support for your opinion and doesn't refute any of the points raised in the article

[quickdodge®]

That lame response that has no support for your opinion and doesn't refute any of the points raised in the article

Lame response, uh? So if I would've typed out, "HELL YEAH, FUCK THAT LAW!!!" it wouldn't have been lame, right? You're not educated too much, are you? You didn't ask for any support.

Anyway, here is the main point right here. The only thing that you should answer.

Do you stand to be affected by this law?

That's pretty much it. Self-explanatory to me. Later, QD.

[warpd]

Lame response, uh? So if I would've typed out, "HELL YEAH, FUCK THAT LAW!!!" it wouldn't have been lame, right? You're not educated too much, are you? You didn't ask for any support.

Anyway, here is the main point right here. The only thing that you should answer.

Do you stand to be affected by this law?

That's pretty much it. Self-explanatory to me. Later, QD.

Typically when someone expresses their support (or lack of), they automatically provide a basis for their opinion. Not just "yah thats cool with me" First of all lots of people will be affected and they don't even know it yet. Regardless there are these things called "principles" that some people still have. Even if something does not affect me I will still speak out about it if I find it to be unjust.

[BanginJimmy]

I like the law. It will get some of the maniacs off the roads, or at least cost them enought that maybe they slow down some.


BTW, this has nothing to do with political party or philosophy, it is a matter of pubic safety.

[leobond001]

Waht about police who speed just cause " they can" i wonder if it will affect them to

[BanginJimmy]

Waht about police who speed just cause " they can" i wonder if it will affect them to


Yes, it also applies to them, whether or not another cop will enforce it is a different question all together. Dont speed and this law doesnt affect you in any way, its really that simple.

[quickdodge®]

Typically when someone expresses their support (or lack of), they automatically provide a basis for their opinion. Not just "yah thats cool with me" First of all lots of people will be affected and they don't even know it yet. Regardless there are these things called "principles" that some people still have. Even if something does not affect me I will still speak out about it if I find it to be unjust.

Why is it unjust? It doesn't bother me in the least because I don't speed like that. I won't have to pony up that extra $200. Fuck those "lots of people." Why are you worried about it? Will their extra fines come out of your paycheck? Will their extra fines hurt you ability to live and breathe? Fuck those people. The only people who would be against this new law are the ones that will be affected by it (by having to pay extra money to speed). Reasons like you state are just excuses and cop outs.

You can't tell me shit about "principles." You have no idea who I am or what I'm about. Later, QD.

[big mac]

okay, coorect me if im wrong bc i am not the political type but doing 75 is concidered a super speeder right? if it is then if you are on a interstate that has a set limit at 70mph, doing 75 mph is considered superspeeding? that would be the only problem i have with this law

[Total_Blender]

Super speeder only applies to those who speed. If you don't like it, don't speed.

If you want to keep speeding, you gotta pay to play.

If you have problems with speeding and license suspensions, DUI's, racing, etc then I have no sympathy for you. You broke the law and those are the consequences. Probably 95% of IA shouldn't be on the roads in my opinion. :ninja::lmfao:

I am not too fond of Sonny but this is one thing he's done that I agree with. :goodjob:

[quickdodge®]

okay, coorect me if im wrong

My pleasure:

"Driving over 85 mph or more anywhere in Georgia and 75 mph or more on a two lane road will be classified as a "super speeding" offense"

Later, QD.

[big mac]

okay but for instance 85n towards braselton and commerce is 70(im pretty sure it is). so if someone were to get pulled over doing 75, only 5 mph over they are super speeding? or would the 85mph one apply there? bc i know that sometimes i will go over the limit by a bit with out realizing it

[Total_Blender]

Yes, it also applies to them, whether or not another cop will enforce it is a different question all together.

My dad knows a guy who has 30 years in with the GSP. He got a DUI recently... he thought he was above the law, but he found out that the young troopers have it in for the old timers and one cop getting another is like a trophy nowadays. :ninja:

[Total_Blender]

okay but for instance 85n towards braselton and commerce is 70(im pretty sure it is). so if someone were to get pulled over doing 75, only 5 mph over they are super speeding?

85 is not a 2 lane road, so the super speeder there would be 85mph.

[HypnoToad]

anyone know if since i already lost my liscense and get it back in march am i gonna get hit with this extra $100 for reinstatment..cause i think thats wrong,should only effect offenses after jan 1st.

[Mchnhead2k5]

okay but for instance 85n towards braselton and commerce is 70(im pretty sure it is). so if someone were to get pulled over doing 75, only 5 mph over they are super speeding? or would the 85mph one apply there? bc i know that sometimes i will go over the limit by a bit with out realizing it

The Governor's Office of Highway Safety in Georgia is oh-so-proud of a new "Super Speeders" law that has now gone into effect. If you're caught doing 75 or better on a two-lane road, or 85+ on an expressway you're going to be nailed for an extra $200 in fines ... payable to the state after you've finished with the local jurisdiction.

Expressway = Interstate (I-XX or I-XXX, GA-400) Not sure about 316 since I never travel up that way, my furthest north travels up 85 end at the IceForum in Duluth.

[mmmmpsi]

Super speeder only applies to those who speed. If you don't like it, don't speed.

If you want to keep speeding, you gotta pay to play.

If you have problems with speeding and license suspensions, DUI's, racing, etc then I have no sympathy for you. You broke the law and those are the consequences. Probably 95% of IA shouldn't be on the roads in my opinion. :ninja::lmfao:

I am not too fond of Sonny but this is one thing he's done that I agree with. :goodjob:

I think you better watch the generalization of the IA audience.. I for one am disgusted with this new law as we all know it's all about money and nothing else.. If law makers REALLY cared about making roads safer than they wouldn't give out licenses to every moron who can start a car..

I'm 37 years old. I drive one of the safest cars on the road. I've never had a speeding ticket AND I've never been in a accident.. I'm on IA. I guess I'm in the 5% then huh??

I think it's ridiculous that I need to drive 85 fucking miles an hour when I come to Georgia when I know my car was built for twice that and still would be safer with the right person behind the wheel than most of the piece of shit cars I've seen driving around with wheels half falling off and some chick doing her makeup on the way to work.

[Total_Blender]

Expressway = Interstate (I-XX or I-XXX, GA-400) Not sure about 316 since I never travel up that way, my furthest north travels up 85 end at the IceForum in Duluth.

316 is a divided 4 lane so it would be 85mph.

316 is one big ass speedtrap as it is. Once you get to Barrow and Oconee counties theres one cruiser posted about every 2 miles so even doing 5mph over the posted limits is asking for a ticket. :ninja:

[quickdodge®]

85 is not a 2 lane road, so the super speeder there would be 85mph.

Interstate 85 has a lot of 2 lane mileage on it. Every mile above exit 120 is 2 lane all the way to the state line.

That is a good question how this law will be handled in that area. Later, QD.

[big mac]

man i would have to say gwin. and occ. county are a lot worse since they mostly are 55mph and all most all of barrow is 65mph

[quickdodge®]

I think it's ridiculous that I need to drive 85 fucking miles an hour when I come to Georgia when I know my car was built for twice that and still would be safer with the right person behind the wheel than most of the piece of shit cars I've seen driving around with wheels half falling off and some chick doing her makeup on the way to work.

Here's where you might want to rethink you're scenario. What if you are the safest person on the road? What if you are traveling down I-85 at 80mph? What if there is some chick doing her make up on the way to work?

What if she fucks up while doing so and slides into your lane? And you're doing 80+mph. Think about the different ways that could play out had you not been traveling at that speed. Later, QD.

[big mac]

Interstate 85 has a lot of 2 lane mileage on it. Every mile above exit 120 is 2 lane all the way to the state line.

That is a good question how this law will be handled in that area. Later, QD.

yup that is what i ment when i was asking the first time

[mmmmpsi]

Here's where you might want to rethink you're scenario. What if you are the safest person on the road? What if you are traveling down I-85 at 80mph? What if there is some chick doing her make up on the way to work?

What if she fucks up while doing so and slides into your lane? And you're doing 80+mph. Think about the different ways that could play out had you not been traveling at that speed. Later, QD.


The point is that she shouldn't be behind the wheel in the first place if that's what she's doing, it wouldn't matter if she was doing 80+ or 40MPH.. if she slides into my lane it's not going to matter..

Again, if you are focused on driving, not doing makeup, not texting, not talking on the phone, not eating your lunch, there should be NO reason whatsoever you can't handle 85MPH with dry road conditions.. drop it down to 70 at night for animals.. I'm cool with that..

[Total_Blender]

Interstate 85 has a lot of 2 lane mileage on it. Every mile above exit 120 is 2 lane all the way to the state line. .

As I understand it though, 85 is 2 lanes in each direction up there... like a divided 4 lane. Correct or no?

[mmmmpsi]

As I understand it though, 85 is 2 lanes in each direction up there... like a divided 4 lane. Correct or no?


Yah its total lanes so a 4 lane divided highway or interstate. 2 lanes would be like a highway or state road.

[big mac]

As I understand it though, 85 is 2 lanes in each direction up there... like a divided 4 lane. Correct or no?


if you think about it it is a divided 4 lane but you are only using or traveling on 2 so...

[TIGERJC]

Yet another bs tax, I wish they would go after all the drug money floating in Georgia. But thats real police work. This law is not going to make Georgia roads safer. The local gov't needs to learn about not overspending and working with a budget.

[quickdodge®]

The point is that she shouldn't be behind the wheel in the first place if that's what she's doing, it wouldn't matter if she was doing 80+ or 40MPH.. if she slides into my lane it's not going to matter..

You're right, she shouldn't. But you're missing my point. And it's evident in the latter part of your reply. It will matter of your speed. And I just saw where you have mistaken my words (or I wasn't clear on them).

Majority of the time, there females putting on make up are running around 55-60 mph. If you're traveling at 80mph, you're covering ground faster than she and (if she's ahead of you) you'll gain on here fairly quickly. Therefore if she happens to fuck up at that moment that you catch her, it's going to be fucked up. If you're driving 70mph, then you're not gaining on her as fast and if she were to fuck up at the exact same time in the scenario, you won't be right there beside her to be part of that fuck up.

Now do you see what I was getting at. It doesn't matter if you're the safest. The person next to you might not be as safe. And if a collision happens, the chances will be better for you (or anyone else) if you're speed is lower rather than higher. Later, QD.

[JDMGRNAV6]

Yes, it also applies to them, whether or not another cop will enforce it is a different question all together. Dont speed and this law doesnt affect you in any way, its really that simple.

very truue..

should have the interstates set up like the autobahn, thats more safe..ish

[5speed]

very truue..

should have the interstates set up like the autobahn, thats more safe..ish
Not at all, that means everyone is gonna need big brake kits lol
Deaths happen there because people are going slow compared to the faster cars all the time.
I agree with QD, this law isnt that bad. I never go more than 80 on interstates and no more than 70 on HWY. Those speeds are reasonable to me if you want to go fast. There really isnt any reason I can think of why someone needs to go faster than that. 70 in metro ATL limits and 80 outside of it in 70mph zones. I have had a popo PARKED in the HOV lane with a car in the emergency lane next to him. I was going 85mph in my old Civic with 3 friends coming back from Barber and came around a curve with a bridges pillar blocking any sight of the DUMB ASS popo. Luckily my friend in the passenger seat just woke up and yelled as soon as he saw it. I looked to my right as quick as I could in order to change lanes in a split second. If Xa didnt awaken then we all would have been dead and probably the popo and other person from the emergency lane along with us. Damn, everytime I think about that I just wanna beat the shit out of that cop.

[Mchnhead2k5]

http://timesfreepress.com/news/2009/dec/18/new-georgia-law-targets-super-speeders/


SUPER SPEEDERS BEWARE

Effective Jan. 1, drivers convicted of driving 75 mph or faster on two-lane roads or 85 mph or faster on multilane roads in Georgia face an additional $200 fine and designation as "super speeders."

SPEEDER FINE BENEFITS

Georgia officials estimate the law will generate nearly $30 million a year for trauma care. About 60 percent of Georgia trauma center patients were involved in automobile crashes, officials said.

My guess is that a TWO-Lane road consists of ONE Lane Going Northbound/Westbound and the other lane going Southbound/Eastbound.

Multi-Lane roads 2 or more lanes going in either direction.

Where does I-85 become a Northbound/Southbound lane highway? I've driven up to NC and it's always been 2 northbound and 2 southbound lanes at least which would qualify as a multilane interstate.

[quickdodge®]

Where does I-85 become a Northbound/Southbound lane highway? I've driven up to NC and it's always been 2 northbound and 2 southbound lanes at least which would qualify as a multilane interstate.

Huh? I-85 has always run N/S. Later, QD.

[BanginJimmy]

Huh? I-85 has always run N/S. Later, QD.

He's asking when it drops dwn to 2 lanes, and it doesnt. I've driven 85 from I-10 to I-95 and its an interstate the whole way.


My biggest gripe with this law has always been the set speeds. I really think they just need to re-write the reckless driving laws and fines and have this super speeder designation be based on the legal speed. Something along the lines of 60+ on a 40mph road, and 70+ on a 50mph road is also a super speeder.

[quickdodge®]

He's asking when it drops dwn to 2 lanes, and it doesnt. I've driven 85 from I-10 to I-95 and its an interstate the whole way.

Ahh, gotcha. Yeah, it's 2 lane one way from exit 120 all the way until you reach Anderson, SC. It opens up to 3 lanes both ways through to North Carolina. Later, QD.

[Mchnhead2k5]

From the GA Drivers' Manual: This somewhat clarifies what a TWO-Lane road is.

How To Pass On A Two-Lane Road
Wait for a passing zone to begin. A passing zone is indicated by striped lines
to the right of the center line of the roadway. If the line nearest to your vehicle
is solid, you are not in a passing zone. Look ahead along the roadway to
determine the length of the passing zone and if there is traffic approaching
from the opposite direction. You must have sufficient time and space to
execute your passing maneuver and return your vehicle completely to the right
lane before the passing zone ends, before entering an intersection, and before
oncoming traffic is within 200 feet of your vehicle.

BANGIN'JIMMY: I'm with you. I think the SuperSpeeder law should just be 20+ over the posted speed limit. Who's really going to go 70 in a 35?

[quickdodge®]

I don't think that clarified anything in relation to this thread, lolol. Later, QD.

[preferredduck]

316 is a divided 4 lane so it would be 85mph.

316 is one big ass speedtrap as it is. Once you get to Barrow and Oconee counties theres one cruiser posted about every 2 miles so even doing 5mph over the posted limits is asking for a ticket. :ninja:

i live in barrow and that is not so. oconee county hits you when the speed limit goes down to 55 at hwy 78 near athens. i see more gwinnett county cops than i do barrow on 316. look out for braselton on 85, esp if your not white. everythime i see them the have blacks/latino's pulled over and search their cars like crazy, i usually screw with them when i see this because it's real bad in that town and i hope somebody sues them for it.

[preferredduck]

I think you better watch the generalization of the IA audience.. I for one am disgusted with this new law as we all know it's all about money and nothing else.. If law makers REALLY cared about making roads safer than they wouldn't give out licenses to every moron who can start a car..

I'm 37 years old. I drive one of the safest cars on the road. I've never had a speeding ticket AND I've never been in a accident.. I'm on IA. I guess I'm in the 5% then huh??

I think it's ridiculous that I need to drive 85 fucking miles an hour when I come to Georgia when I know my car was built for twice that and still would be safer with the right person behind the wheel than most of the piece of shit cars I've seen driving around with wheels half falling off and some chick doing her makeup on the way to work.


you make a good point of the make up girl. i think they need a massive fine for the idiots reading and doing make up while going 70mph, they usually are the reason we have traffic. or they stay in the left lane going below the speed limit but are too busy trying to look good they screw everyone up.

[quickdodge®]

look out for braselton on 85, esp if your not white. everythime i see them the have blacks/latino's pulled over and search their cars like crazy, i usually screw with them when i see this because it's real bad in that town and i hope somebody sues them for it.

Typical bullshit cop out, but hey, that's just how some folks rationalize their problems.


you make a good point of the make up girl. i think they need a massive fine for the idiots reading and doing make up while going 70mph, they usually are the reason we have traffic. or they stay in the left lane going below the speed limit but are too busy trying to look good they screw everyone up.

He's makes a partial point and I do agree that people doing that shit should get hit with a major fine. They should be nailed with a fine AT LEAST AS MUCH AS a speeding fine. Later, QD.

[boostedb16]

i dont think this law is a bad idea but shit 75 on a two lane rd. and 85 on the interstate. that dont make since. i will admit that my speed limit on the interstate is normally 85mph. i know thats speeding and if i get pulled over, i just go pay the ticket. no bitching and whinning, i was speeding and thats my fault. i think the interstate super speeder limit should be around 95mph because going that fast is just stupid. i dont think 85mph is a outragous speed for the interstate. just my opionion.

[quickdodge®]

^^^ I can agree with you there on the limit. I mean I think 80mph isn't too bad. Hail, a lot of times when you're traveling at 70-75mph, it seems like you're crawling. I guess it's the fast-paced world we're in. But if the limit were raised to 80, I would think that 90 would be quite a bit too much. Later, QD.

[boostedb16]

^^^ I can agree with you there on the limit. I mean I think 80mph isn't too bad. Hail, a lot of times when you're traveling at 70-75mph, it seems like you're crawling. I guess it's the fast-paced world we're in. But if the limit were raised to 80, I would think that 90 would be quite a bit too much. Later, QD.:goodjob:

[WickedIXMR]

i dont think this law is a bad idea but shit 75 on a two lane rd. and 85 on the interstate. that dont make since. i will admit that my speed limit on the interstate is normally 85mph. i know thats speeding and if i get pulled over, i just go pay the ticket. no bitching and whinning, i was speeding and thats my fault. i think the interstate super speeder limit should be around 95mph because going that fast is just stupid. i dont think 85mph is a outragous speed for the interstate. just my opionion.
That doesn't make sense.

[preferredduck]

Typical bullshit cop out, but hey, that's just how some folks rationalize their problems.



He's makes a partial point and I do agree that people doing that shit should get hit with a major fine. They should be nailed with a fine AT LEAST AS MUCH AS a speeding fine. Later, QD.

seriously go to braselton off 85 and check it out yourself. i'm white so it does not affect me but thats what i see 99.9% of the time there. i have been pulled over at 3am by braselton a couple of years ago and was not searched at all and my eyes were bloodshot from playing video games with a friend out a chateau elan. also it's funny that when i went to get my girlfriends accident report in september there were nothing but latino's in line to pay fines, and there were at least 8 ppl in line with tickets. it's small town BS. try pendergrass GA too, they are abt the same.

[StreetHazard]

Is speed a contributing factor in most road accidents?

The short and correct answer is NO, and here's why.

http://www.carbibles.com/speeding_facts.html
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[Glides]

Why? Your gonna have to do better than that. I love it when my government fucks over its own citizens to make up for the taxes they already took and spent irresponsibly


LOL.....if you get fucked over by this law it's YOU OWN FAULT!!!!

It's REALLY easy to not get tripped up by this....don't freaking speed. If you want to speed, then doom on you buddy. :lmfao:

[Glides]

Is speed a contributing factor in most road accidents?

The short and correct answer is NO, and here's why.

http://www.carbibles.com/speeding_facts.html
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If you believe that speed isn't a contributing factor in accidents, you are confused. Unless a car is parked and a Piano falls on it, speed is most ALWAYS an issue. Most people are going too fast for them to react. Whether someone pulls out in front of them, whether they rear end someone....whatever. If you hit someone, 99% of the time someone fucked up somewhere by going too fast for whatever situation they were in.

Low speed crash in traffic......someone was going to fast and hit the other person.

[StreetHazard]

If you believe that speed isn't a contributing factor in accidents, you are confused. Unless a car is parked and a Piano falls on it, speed is most ALWAYS an issue. Most people are going too fast for them to react. Whether someone pulls out in front of them, whether they rear end someone....whatever. If you hit someone, 99% of the time someone fucked up somewhere by going too fast for whatever situation they were in.

Low speed crash in traffic......someone was going to fast and hit the other person.


that report says that speeding is only verifiable as a direct cause in 6% of accidents

[StreetHazard]

Failure to judge other person's path or speed was the most common cause, just saying.

speeding by itself is NOT the issue that causes "most" accidents its carelessness and just being a poor driver that causes accidents and fatalities. stricter driver's education should be more of a solution. To me this is almost another tax for driving.

I drive 80mph on most highways in atlanta just to keep up in the fast lane and not piss everyone off around me, but maybe I might have to pass someone to get off at an exit in time. Ill be doing 90mph to pass out of the fast lane.

"well why don't you slow down instead of speed up?"

What if the cars next to me have no gap and passing is my viable choice? The point is a simple occurrence like this that happens to almost everyone everyday that does a significant amount of driving will now cost you $200 and if you don't have the money, than a suspended license...which will then put you in the system so they can gather even more money in "driving courses" and court costs.

















wait....I have changed my mind, I like this law for that very reason. shitty drivers will now finally be penalized for their shitty driving and forced off the roads (especially if your broke) and if they still continue to drive than they will be jailed....either way they will no longer bother me on my commute!

COOL!

[ISAtlanta300]

If you believe that speed isn't a contributing factor in accidents, you are confused. Unless a car is parked and a Piano falls on it, speed is most ALWAYS an issue.

That doesn't really make sense. One cannot have motion without speed. That is like saying most accidents are caused because the two cars involved were moving... well, yes... that is what a car does.

The real issue is if SPEEDING (not speed) is a contributing factor in accidents, and MOST of the times, it is not. Most accidents are due to other factors (Failure to yield, failure to observe traffic device, failure to maintain lanes, etc), that all occurr within the legal speed limits.....

[Glides]

that report says that speeding is only verifiable as a direct cause in 6% of accidents

Because we ALL know that what you read on the internet is correct? Especially from a website called Car Bibles? Hmmmmmmm.

As for your other bit, congratulations....you have seen the light and the true reason behind the Super Speeder law. It's to take those assholes that feel that they ALWAYS have to speed up to get where they are going off the road.

I say, good riddance. If someone can't keep their shit in check, they deserve to be fined. I wouldn't care if the fine was $10,000. It can't be high enough when I see some dumb fuck rolling at 95 mph, darting in and out of traffic because they screwed the pooch and are late for work.


That doesn't really make sense. One cannot have motion without speed. That is like saying most accidents are caused because the two cars involved were moving... well, yes... that is what a car does.

The real issue is if SPEEDING (not speed) is a contributing factor in accidents, and MOST of the times, it is not. Most accidents are due to other factors (Failure to yield, failure to observe traffic device, failure to maintain lanes, etc), that all occurr within the legal speed limits.....

I can agree with this. :goodjob:

[keevo54]

Typical bullshit cop out, but hey, that's just how some folks rationalize their problems.

Later, QD.

lol the man does speak the truth though. Braselton cops profile like a moth fucka. Seen it more times then I'd like to admit and its bullshit. I was cruising past a gas station and there was a mexican gentleman talking on the pay phone. Guess what.....Braselton cop pulls in and starts harassing him. If you get pulled over by them on the hwy 50/50 chance your car will be searched

[swimshark]

Majority of the time, there females putting on make up are running around 55-60 mph. If you're traveling at 80mph, you're covering ground faster than she and (if she's ahead of you) you'll gain on here fairly quickly. Therefore if she happens to fuck up at that moment that you catch her, it's going to be fucked up. If you're driving 70mph, then you're not gaining on her as fast and if she were to fuck up at the exact same time in the scenario, you won't be right there beside her to be part of that fuck up.

So what if she waits some extra time when you are driving 70mph? You are only traveling at 14.6ft/s less doing 70 than 80. Your "scenario" is flawed if you only account for speed. Where are the fact that you have brakes and that you as the driver doing 80mph ARE paying attention to the road? You will have a better reaction time and can slow down to avoid the situation because you are NOT being distracted.

They have proven people's reaction times in cars when they are doing various events while driving.

http://www.visualexpert.com/Resources/reactiontime.html

I think they should up the speed some because 85 is a bit low considering most of the time I have ever driven either down 75 to FL or up 85 to Greenville, my average cruising speed is 85-90 with other cars in front and behind me and even though I am only 21 and have only had close to 7 years of driving experience I do have many miles under my belt doing these trips and have had no issues. If you pay attention to the road and what is going on around you and up ahead of you you can be a much safer driver even at higher speeds.

Not condoning it, but thats just my :2cents:

[quickdodge®]

So what if she waits some extra time when you are driving 70mph? You are only traveling at 14.6ft/s less doing 70 than 80. Your "scenario" is flawed if you only account for speed. Where are the fact that you have brakes and that you as the driver doing 80mph ARE paying attention to the road? You will have a better reaction time and can slow down to avoid the situation because you are NOT being distracted.

They have proven people's reaction times in cars when they are doing various events while driving.

http://www.visualexpert.com/Resources/reactiontime.html

I think they should up the speed some because 85 is a bit low considering most of the time I have ever driven either down 75 to FL or up 85 to Greenville, my average cruising speed is 85-90 with other cars in front and behind me and even though I am only 21 and have only had close to 7 years of driving experience I do have many miles under my belt doing these trips and have had no issues. If you pay attention to the road and what is going on around you and up ahead of you you can be a much safer driver even at higher speeds.

Not condoning it, but thats just my :2cents:

I think you are a lot more flawed than you think I am. I think you're starting to tap into what I was getting at, but not thinking too much on it. I don't see where the faster you drive, the better your reaction time. Your reaction time should remain constant at any speed on the road. Not varying miles per hour. If someone else hits you and you're driving 85mph, the wreck will probably be a lot more sever than if you were driving 70mph.

Not to mention you just helped my scenario out with your math. You say "You are only traveling at 14.6ft/s less" like that's bad. Only 14?' You don't think 14' more room to react is a good thing? See where I'm at, dude.

I can guarantee you that I have about as much miles under my belt in the last 3 years as you do in your 7. And I'm talking freeway miles. Not to mention the other 21 years I've been driving.

I do agree, though, that in spots outside of the metro area the speed limit really ought to be put up higher. Maybe 80mph tops. Later, QD.

[swimshark]

Speed isn't the factor. The point is the distraction factor. Less distractions the better you are going to drive. They should put stricter laws on those using cell phones and other distractions also that make people unsafe drivers. Hell people cant even direct a damn plane because of cell phones lol.

Yah obviously at a slower speed you cover less space and thus can get out of a situation better, but if I was talking on my cell phone also and didn't notice a car up ahead of me and wasn't paying attention to what they were doing then I'd have a much greater chance of getting in a wreck.

Haha began to think actually think about it and I probably have well over 150k under my belt since Ive been driving. Just saying. I love to drive and enjoy road trips. :D

[swimshark]

Atleast we can all agree on they should change the speed some in different areas.

I have had my set of speeding tickets back towards the end of HS and after dishing out some serious cash I realized it was stupid to be doing triple digits on a regular basis.

Taking it to the track is the best way to get it out of your system.

[quickdodge®]

^^^ Agreed. 100%.


Speed isn't the factor. The point is the distraction factor. Less distractions the better you are going to drive. They should put stricter laws on those using cell phones and other distractions also that make people unsafe drivers. Hell people cant even direct a damn plane because of cell phones lol.

Speed can be a factor. That's the point. Talking on a cell phone can be a factor. Anything has the potential to be a factor. There will never be less distractions. And yes if someone is on a cell phone and they drift over, your speed will become a MAJOR factor in how the rest of that transpires. If you're going slower, you'll have a much better chance at getting out of the way. If you have to jerk your car out of the way of someone at 80+ mph, you're going got have a harder time controlling your car than at much lower speeds. As far as people driving and talking/texting, hail yeah that should be a huge penalty. And I'm not talking about drivers being more or less aware when speeding. I'm talking about reactions and cause/effect situations.


Yah obviously at a slower speed you cover less space and thus can get out of a situation better, but if I was talking on my cell phone also and didn't notice a car up ahead of me and wasn't paying attention to what they were doing then I'd have a much greater chance of getting in a wreck.

I guess so. Not sure I understand this.


Haha began to think actually think about it and I probably have well over 150k under my belt since Ive been driving. Just saying. I love to drive and enjoy road trips. :D

I had to jot down some information the other day and in the last 3 years, I've driven 215,000 miles. Lolol. Later, QD.

[swimshark]

I had to jot down some information the other day and in the last 3 years, I've driven 215,000 miles. Lolol. Later, QD.

Thats a lot. Last year with working half the year and doing school while living on campus the rest, I put over 36k on my car. Was having a competition with my friend to see who can keep the least mileage but I am putting over 2k on each month now to and from work in Alpharetta. Im losing by about 20k now and I was ahead of him. :( Not many more trips to FL either since my Grandmother is now up here in GA, but her health is dwindling fast.

Sounds like a stretch, but maybe funding should be put into opening more tracks in various parts of the state. I headed up a track day at Talladega with 12 other friends and we had a blast for 1 day of tracking. You get all your speed giggles out on the track and have no need to do it anymore.

Maybe if they opened more tracks and people got their speed racing out of them on a closed circuit it would help.

I also think they should change some of their criteria as to how hard it is to get a license. There are those that should put down distractions and drive and theyd be ok and then there are those that shouldn't be allowed behind a wheel period.

Like today I watch some chick in her nice BMW 5 series almost rear end a semi in the left turn lane because she was fumbling with her phone. Also when I watch taxi drivers I wonder if they even have a license with the way they drive. Taxi drivers scare the shit out of me and I avoid them at all costs (that is here in the Marietta area). Never know when they may turn right in front of you as if you dont exist. Watching how other people drive and what they are doing shows a lot what talking on a cell phone or eating can do to your driving.

I want to know where this money goes also. Was sorta interesting to see where $1300 of my money went a few years back when I did some stupid stuff. Wonder which fund the extra $200 goes into.

[mushroom_toy]

Dont care too much for the law, but I do 65-70 on the interstate so I dont worry about it too much. Why waste extra gas to get you a few feet farther down the road.

[swimshark]

Dont care too much for the law, but I do 65-70 on the interstate so I dont worry about it too much. Why waste extra gas to get you a few feet farther down the road.

Yah after doing only 60-70 to Alabama and back I was able to get over 28mpg. I got 437miles off of about 15.5 gallons. My rated mileage for my car is 18 city -24 highway. Around town it is doesn't hurt to go slower, but on road trips it does make up time to cruise at a slightly faster speed.

[FasTech]

I honestly don't care about it either way. They know creating this law, its not going to stop 99% of people who drive fast. Sure, some will stop and some who get caught will probably stop, but majority of the people are going to keep on going with life as if it has not been brought up. So basically after while, I believe it going to just die down slowly.

It doesn't bother me mearly because I never drive 75mph or over on a two lane road. I mean, thats just retarted and shows you obvisouly do not care for your car at all. You could easily hit a dog, person, another car, etc. I usually stay in the 55-to-60mph range on two lane roads. Plenty fast enough and I never even come to close to accidents because I plenty time to spot certain things and slow down. On the highway, I usually stay within 80-to-85mph. Usually the flow of traffic and its plenty fast enough to get you were you're going. Although I'm a very young driver, I do not treat ever trip somewhere as a race.


Just my opinion.

[RL...]

hhhmmmmmmmmm.............................law doesn't affect me

[Glides]

The law will do nothing really to slow anyone down. Soon as someone is late, they will think "I'm not getting caught" and just do what they want.

Bottom line is, all of this debating doesn't matter one bit. If you don't want to pay the Super Speeder fine, don't be a dumbass and be a Super Speeder.

As my father would say. "Only you can prevent being a dumbass"

[quickdodge®]

So basically after while, I believe it going to just die down slowly.

Well the hype may die down but the law itself won't. Later, QD.

[swimshark]

People should just remember that it is there and before you go and start speeding around GA think of what could happen and make sure your pocket is ready if you get caught.

[Total_Blender]

The law will do nothing really to slow anyone down. Soon as someone is late, they will think "I'm not getting caught" and just do what they want.
"

But once they get caught and nailed with the SuperSpeeder fine they will slow down. Once bitten, twice shy. :goodjob:

I thought all of you on the right understood how "deterrents" are supposed to work? :ninja:

[Glides]

But once they get caught and nailed with the SuperSpeeder fine they will slow down. Once bitten, twice shy. :goodjob:

I thought all of you on the right understood how "deterrents" are supposed to work? :ninja:


Lol. Trust me, I know how deterrents are "Supposed" to work. But I also know how stupidity works, and Asslanta has a surplus of dumbasses just waiting to fill the coffers of the state. :goodjob:

[BanginJimmy]

I drive 80mph on most highways in atlanta just to keep up in the fast lane and not piss everyone off around me, but maybe I might have to pass someone to get off at an exit in time. Ill be doing 90mph to pass out of the fast lane.

I spend a lot of time on Atlanta's highways and expressways and I have never seen a case where I needed to go 90mph to get to an exit.

"well why don't you slow down instead of speed up?"


What if the cars next to me have no gap and passing is my viable choice?

Pure BS in 99% of cases. Maybe next time why dont you move into the right lane sooner, so that you dont have to go 20+ mph over the posted limit to get into the proper lane in time. That 1% would be the case where you dont know where you are going, and if you fall into that 1% it is still BS because if you dont know where you are going you should be in the slow lane to avoid these situations.


The point is a simple occurrence like this that happens to almost everyone everyday that does a significant amount of driving will now cost you $200 and if you don't have the money, than a suspended license...which will then put you in the system so they can gather even more money in "driving courses" and court costs.

Again, in my 14 years of driving I can think of a single time that I NEEDED to go 20 MPH over the posted limit. That was when I was bringing someone to the emergency room. Unless you have a situation similiar, there is no need to go that fast.

















wait....I have changed my mind, I like this law for that very reason. shitty drivers will now finally be penalized for their shitty driving and forced off the roads (especially if your broke) and if they still continue to drive than they will be jailed....either way they will no longer bother me on my commute!

COOL![/QUOTE]

[quickdodge®]

I spend a lot of time on Atlanta's highways and expressways and I have never seen a case where I needed to go 90mph to get to an exit.

"well why don't you slow down instead of speed up?"



Pure BS in 99% of cases. Maybe next time why dont you move into the right lane sooner, so that you dont have to go 20+ mph over the posted limit to get into the proper lane in time. That 1% would be the case where you dont know where you are going, and if you fall into that 1% it is still BS because if you dont know where you are going you should be in the slow lane to avoid these situations.



Again, in my 14 years of driving I can think of a single time that I NEEDED to go 20 MPH over the posted limit. That was when I was bringing someone to the emergency room. Unless you have a situation similiar, there is no need to go that fast.

















wait....I have changed my mind, I like this law for that very reason. shitty drivers will now finally be penalized for their shitty driving and forced off the roads (especially if your broke) and if they still continue to drive than they will be jailed....either way they will no longer bother me on my commute!

COOL![/QUOTE]

I'll say that summed it very well. +96. Later, QD.

[Total_Blender]

Asslanta has a surplus of dumbasses just waiting to fill the coffers of the state. :goodjob:

Ergo, SuperSpeeder. Just think of it as a tax on stupidity. :ninja:

[swimshark]

haha agreed. if people payed attention to where they were on the fuckin road and knew there route than they wouldnt be hoping lanes and having to speed up to make it over and cut off half the highway to make their exit. its annoying as hell having to dodge some jackass that has to hop over 3 lanes to go from the right turn lane to the left so they can make a damn u-turn.

ive seen people do the haul ass just to get over and it bugs the hell out of me when they ride up on my ass and then just cut over. lot of it happens on 285.

[Mchnhead2k5]

http://timesfreepress.com/news/2009/dec/18/new-georgia-law-targets-super-speeders/


SUPER SPEEDERS BEWARE

Effective Jan. 1, drivers convicted of driving 75 mph or faster on two-lane roads or 85 mph or faster on multilane roads in Georgia face an additional $200 fine and designation as "super speeders."

SPEEDER FINE BENEFITS

Georgia officials estimate the law will generate nearly $30 million a year for trauma care. About 60 percent of Georgia trauma center patients were involved in automobile crashes, officials said.





I want to know where this money goes also. Was sorta interesting to see where $1300 of my money went a few years back when I did some stupid stuff. Wonder which fund the extra $200 goes into.

:goodjob:

[FasTech]

Well the hype may die down but the law itself won't. Later, QD.


Well, in a sense, thats what I mean. The whole big deal about it will die down and I think some law enforcment officers will not be as strict in the near future. Of course, they're will be some that will stick with it 100% but I feel that the majority of them will not make it such a big deal.

[J-ROCK]

i have no problem with this law! will save alot of lives cause of stupid people!

[quickdodge®]

I think some law enforcment officers will not be as strict in the near future. Of course, they're will be some that will stick with it 100% but I feel that the majority of them will not make it such a big deal.

Well that's not right, either, lolol. LEOs aren't the ones that set the fine amount. They just write down the speed limit and the miles per hour being traveled by the offender. The ONLY thing they can do is not write down the correct speed o the speeder. Later, QD.

[F8d2Blk]

Fines are already over $200 to $300's especially in Fulton, so just add a few more I guess. My only problem is it won't slow down the speeders. People drive what they are comfortable driving based on the conditions. Every morning going 285 east, everyone is going 85mph in the fast lane. Even after this law has passed. I never see any cops on 285 east in the morning except by the peachtree ind exit. So people know when to slow down. I speed but I am usually within the limits of the law so it doesn't affect me. But for all you people that are praising Sonny for a job well done, I say BS simply because people are going to drive how they want. Try again. There are just as much idiots on the road that don't speed. But to be honest I am more peeved about the damn GDOT. Ever since the Olympics, our Highways and Roadways haven't been able to keep up with population. Every where you go there is traffic at 5pm. A mass transit system thats a joke, bicycle lanes(joke), carpool system, is there such a thing here in atlanta.

[BanginJimmy]

Fines are already over $200 to $300's especially in Fulton, so just add a few more I guess. My only problem is it won't slow down the speeders. People drive what they are comfortable driving based on the conditions. Every morning going 285 east, everyone is going 85mph in the fast lane. Even after this law has passed. I never see any cops on 285 east in the morning except by the peachtree ind exit. So people know when to slow down. I speed but I am usually within the limits of the law so it doesn't affect me. But for all you people that are praising Sonny for a job well done, I say BS simply because people are going to drive how they want. Try again. There are just as much idiots on the road that don't speed.


Since people are still going to commit armed robberies ad murder, no matter what the penalty is, should we just ignore them too and let them do as they please?

[FasTech]

Well that's not right, either, lolol. LEOs aren't the ones that set the fine amount. They just write down the speed limit and the miles per hour being traveled by the offender. The ONLY thing they can do is not write down the correct speed o the speeder. Later, QD.



Well, again, thats what I'm trying to say. That the cops will eventually lay off the new law and give people more breaks. Just doing a poor job of explanning myself. lolol.

[F8d2Blk]

Since people are still going to commit armed robberies ad murder, no matter what the penalty is, should we just ignore them too and let them do as they please?

That is totally different. This has nothing to do with murders and robberies. This is infringement on our rights. If I want to kill myself by driving fast, it is my choice, just like you should have a choice to wear a seatbelt. Although, the seatbelt is the best invention to save lives, since they put us in these death box on wheels anyway.

You say you will be safer now that they charge a $200 dollars more for a speeding ticket and I say, yeah right. BS

Statistic from 2005, Roughly, 40 percent of the fatal crashes are alcohol-related

Teenagers

Car Accidents are the leading cause of death among teenagers in the United States, accounting for 36% of all deaths of persons aged 15 to 19 years.

The fatal crash rate per million miles for 16-year-old drivers is more than 7 times the rate for drivers aged 30 to 59 years.

Nearly the same number of deaths occur among teenaged passengers as teenaged drivers: in 1993, two thirds of the deaths of passengers aged 13 to 19 years occurred when teenagers were driving

Here is the breakdown of lowering and raising speed limits.

•At 34 locations, existing speed limits were posted within 5 mi/h (8 km/h) of the 85th percentile speeds. When speed limits at these sites were lowered more than 5 mi/h (8 km/h) below the 85th percentile speed, the mean difference in percentile speeds was less than 1 mi/h (1.6 km/h). [In other words, lowering the speed limit does not mean traffic will slow down.]
•At 21 other locations, existing speed limits were posted more than 5 mi/h (8 km/h) below the 85th percentile speeds. When the agencies raised the limits to within 5 mi/h (8 km/h) of the 85th percentile speeds at these sites, the mean difference in percentile speeds was less than 1 mi/h (1.6 km/h) [In other words, raising the speed limit does not mean traffic will speed up.]
•By defining driver compliance as the number or percentage of drivers that travel at or below the posted speed limit, major changes in compliance occurred when speed limits were raised or lowered. However, as reflected in small changes in vehicle speeds, driver behavior did not change, but the standard for measuring compliance, i.e., posted speed limit, changed. [Higher limits mean a greater number of drivers traveling at the limit instead of over it.]

[quickdodge®]

This is infringement on our rights. If I want to kill myself by driving fast, it is my choice,...

But is it your right to kill someone else because of your choice to drive faster than necessary? Government mandated "safety" might be an infringement in the privacy of your own home, but when you're out on a public motorway, it's not just you anymore. Later, QD.

[F8d2Blk]

But is it your right to kill someone else because of your choice to drive faster than necessary? Government mandated "safety" might be an infringement in the privacy of your own home, but when you're out on a public motorway, it's not just you anymore. Later, QD.

Thats a chance you take every day getting in your car.

It all goes back to what your comfortable driving. I am just saying the added charge isn't going to change the way people drive and the roads aren't going to be any safer. Sorry to say that, so this superspeeder law is sham.

Here is the breakdown in Fatalaties in Georgia, 2007 from the census bureau.

Total: 1,641

Speed related fatalities -384 Total

Speeds-
Interstate:
Over 55 24 Total
Under 55 14 Total

Non Interstate:
55 and over -117
50mph -7
45mph -58
40mph -12
35mph -68
35 and under -28

So there was 1641 motor vehicle fatalities for 2007
384 were speed related
What were the other 1300 fatalities caused by? Probably a stupid driver.

[F8d2Blk]

To bad we can't fine the stupid drivers for $200 more?

http://www.census.gov/compendia/statab/2010/tables/10s1072.xls

I do believe that people that speed or that go slightly faster than the flow of traffic actually pay more attention to their surroundings instead of most people that just sit there and have tunnel vision.

[quickdodge®]

Thats a chance you take every day getting in your car.

You're right. But that doesn't mean you should make it potentially worse.


It all goes back to what your comfortable driving. I am just saying the added charge isn't going to change the way people drive and the roads aren't going to be any safer. Sorry to say that, so this superspeeder law is sham.


Everyone keeps posting all these charts and graphs and hollering about how speeding isn't the problem and it doesn't matter. Who cares if it's a sham? I don't. It'll never affect me. You're only going to get shammed if you fall victim to it.

The only thing I don't understand about this is why everyone has so much time to complain about something that is so easily avoidable. I don't get it. If you don't like eating broccoli because of the taste, you don't eat broccoli. If you don't like concerts because of noise, you don't go to concerts. If you don't like paying high fines for speeding, you don't speed. Later, QD.

[F8d2Blk]

You're right. But that doesn't mean you should make it potentially worse.



Everyone keeps posting all these charts and graphs and hollering about how speeding isn't the problem and it doesn't matter. Who cares if it's a sham? I don't. It'll never affect me. You're only going to get shammed if you fall victim to it.

The only thing I don't understand about this is why everyone has so much time to complain about something that is so easily avoidable. I don't get it. If you don't like eating broccoli because of the taste, you don't eat broccoli. If you don't like concerts because of noise, you don't go to concerts. If you don't like paying high fines for speeding, you don't speed. Later, QD.

Most speeders already know that, you pay to play. Which others have mentioned.
The point is the extra fine isn't going to make the roads safer. So to praise a governor for not fixing a problem on our roads isn't going to fix the problem. I don't go above 85 unless, I just happen to be unaware but I think if you want to change habits, put more cops out there on the damn freeways. You never see them. Especially 285.

[quickdodge®]

The point is the extra fine isn't going to make the roads safer.

Lolol.


So to praise a governor for not fixing a problem on our roads isn't going to fix the problem. I don't go above 85 unless, I just happen to be unaware but I think if you want to change habits, put more cops out there on the damn freeways. You never see them. Especially 285.

I never praised anyone. Approving this law doesn't I'm approving the Governor. Which 285 do you get on? I see County on 285 all day damn near every day of the week. And I look because I drive a semi on that loop 5 days a week and they are always out there. Later, QD.

[F8d2Blk]

Lolol.



I never praised anyone. Approving this law doesn't I'm approving the Governor. Which 285 do you get on? I see County on 285 all day damn near every day of the week. And I look because I drive a semi on that loop 5 days a week and they are always out there. Later, QD.

The most populated 285 between upper 75n and 85n. LOL at you too.....

And it also sucks to deal with all the stupid drivers out there, having to drive a semi. Who do you drive for?

[quickdodge®]

The most populated 285 between upper 75n and 85n. LOL at you too.....

You are right about that part of 285 not having police activity much. Everything from Spaghetti Junction back South to I-20 and West to he airport and then back up North to I-20 is always heavily patrolled. But from Spaghetti Junction around top-end to I-20, there is hardly anyone.

I only laughed because of your comment about speeding and safety....not directly at you. No harm intended.

And it also sucks to deal with all the stupid drivers out there, having to drive a semi. Who do you drive for?[/QUOTE]

It does suck, but I love it. When we get in stopped traffic, I just hop into the sleeper and chill out for a minute, lolol. I was driving for one of the largest trucking companies around. Later, QD.

[Glides]

That is totally different. This has nothing to do with murders and robberies. This is infringement on our rights. If I want to kill myself by driving fast, it is my choice, just like you should have a choice to wear a seatbelt. Although, the seatbelt is the best invention to save lives, since they put us in these death box on wheels anyway.

You say you will be safer now that they charge a $200 dollars more for a speeding ticket and I say, yeah right. BS

Statistic from 2005, Roughly, 40 percent of the fatal crashes are alcohol-related

Teenagers

Car Accidents are the leading cause of death among teenagers in the United States, accounting for 36% of all deaths of persons aged 15 to 19 years.

The fatal crash rate per million miles for 16-year-old drivers is more than 7 times the rate for drivers aged 30 to 59 years.

Nearly the same number of deaths occur among teenaged passengers as teenaged drivers: in 1993, two thirds of the deaths of passengers aged 13 to 19 years occurred when teenagers were driving

Here is the breakdown of lowering and raising speed limits.

•At 34 locations, existing speed limits were posted within 5 mi/h (8 km/h) of the 85th percentile speeds. When speed limits at these sites were lowered more than 5 mi/h (8 km/h) below the 85th percentile speed, the mean difference in percentile speeds was less than 1 mi/h (1.6 km/h). [In other words, lowering the speed limit does not mean traffic will slow down.]
•At 21 other locations, existing speed limits were posted more than 5 mi/h (8 km/h) below the 85th percentile speeds. When the agencies raised the limits to within 5 mi/h (8 km/h) of the 85th percentile speeds at these sites, the mean difference in percentile speeds was less than 1 mi/h (1.6 km/h) [In other words, raising the speed limit does not mean traffic will speed up.]
•By defining driver compliance as the number or percentage of drivers that travel at or below the posted speed limit, major changes in compliance occurred when speed limits were raised or lowered. However, as reflected in small changes in vehicle speeds, driver behavior did not change, but the standard for measuring compliance, i.e., posted speed limit, changed. [Higher limits mean a greater number of drivers traveling at the limit instead of over it.]

How may I ask, is this an infringement on our rights? Are you serious?

So what you are saying is that it is your RIGHT to drive as fast as you want too? It's your RIGHT to endanger other peoples lives? Bullshit.

I think that alot of people have forgotten that driving is a priviledge....a priviledge that can be revoked for doing dumb shit. Soooooo, just like ANY other ticket, they will stop you, add points to your license and fine you. When those points...or as I call them "Dumbass Marks" add up to a point, you have officially done too much dumb shit and your priviledge to drive has been revoked.

As for this little gem.


Thats a chance you take every day getting in your car.

You have a wonderful son, i've met him, he's awesome. So that's just the chance he takes when you load him into the car to take him to school and some moron doing 85 mph slams into the side of your car and possibly kills your son....but that's ok, because it is his RIGHT to drive like that?
Bullshit. Trust me, if that thing happens to you, these words and figures you are quoting right now will be the EXACT opposite of what you will be saying then.

You are only thinking of yourself. You are not thinking of the people that that person who you say has a RIGHT to tear ass around the highways and byways of our great state, kills be being a fucking jackass. Think further, think of your family, your friends family, all the people you know. Cause I garauntee, when that the first person that you know that gets killed by a "Super Speeder", your tune will change.

[F8d2Blk]

You guys didn't read the stats of any of the stuff I posted. Superspeeders are probably the smallest part of the problem. I think they should try again. I think they should increase fines for DUI's, make everyone buy hands-free, and put more emphasis on driver training.

So go read the stats again and then comment.

[quickdodge®]

You guys didn't read the stats of any of the stuff I posted. Superspeeders are probably the smallest part of the problem. I think they should try again. I think they should increase fines for DUI's, make everyone buy hands-free, and put more emphasis on driver training.

So go read the stats again and then comment.

As I said before, those stats and all have been posted on here every time the topic is brought up. I don't need to read them every single time someone posts them. I am aware of them. I agree with the rest of what you're saying (higher fines for DUI, etc), but I also agree with this law. No stat will make me not like the fact that if you want to drive this way, now you got to pay for it. Later, QD.

[BanginJimmy]

I love all of the "I'm a great driver and I can drive as fast as I want and be completely safe" type comments on this thread. None of you have a clue. ANYTHING can cause an accident, and since you people like stats so much, lower speeds result in less severe accidents in 100% of cases.

Here is an example from my own, personal, experiences that completely nullifies these "I'm a great driver" remarks.

Back in 2000 or 2001 I was driving North on I-15 in Cali when the guy 3 or 4 car lengths in front of me slammed on his breaks and swerved into my lane to avoid a deer. Speed limit was 65 I believe and since I just got a huge ticket I was actually doing pretty close to the speed limit, maybe 70mph max. Because I wasnt driving overly fast, I had the time to react. I was able to get on my breaks, and swerve into the other lane. Had I been doing even 80mph, there was no way I was going to avoid this guy. As it was, I missed him by no more than 10ft.

[F8d2Blk]

I love all of the "I'm a great driver and I can drive as fast as I want and be completely safe" type comments on this thread. None of you have a clue. ANYTHING can cause an accident, and since you people like stats so much, lower speeds result in less severe accidents in 100% of cases.

Here is an example from my own, personal, experiences that completely nullifies these "I'm a great driver" remarks.

Back in 2000 or 2001 I was driving North on I-15 in Cali when the guy 3 or 4 car lengths in front of me slammed on his breaks and swerved into my lane to avoid a deer. Speed limit was 65 I believe and since I just got a huge ticket I was actually doing pretty close to the speed limit, maybe 70mph max. Because I wasnt driving overly fast, I had the time to react. I was able to get on my breaks, and swerve into the other lane. Had I been doing even 80mph, there was no way I was going to avoid this guy. As it was, I missed him by no more than 10ft.

I'll give you one of my experiences, I was driving 30mph and the posted speed limit was 35, it wasn't raining but the roads were wet and I was coming around a blind bend, next thing I know a deer jumped out of no where, there was nothing I can do except hope that I didn't get hurt. I wasn't going to hit the brakes to spin out since S2000's are tail happy, and just hope God was watching me that night and he was the deer jumped on the hood of my car and took off into the woods.

[BanginJimmy]

I'll give you one of my experiences, I was driving 30mph and the posted speed limit was 35, it wasn't raining but the roads were wet and I was coming around a blind bend, next thing I know a deer jumped out of no where, there was nothing I can do except hope that I didn't get hurt. I wasn't going to hit the brakes to spin out since S2000's are tail happy, and just hope God was watching me that night and he was the deer jumped on the hood of my car and took off into the woods.

And if you were going that 5mph faster then you would have hit the deer and probably been injured. Thanks for proving my point though.

[quickdodge®]

I love all of the "I'm a great driver and I can drive as fast as I want and be completely safe" type comments on this thread. None of you have a clue. ANYTHING can cause an accident, and since you people like stats so much, lower speeds result in less severe accidents in 100% of cases.

Damn I can't tell you how many times I've tried to say the same thing. It always goes unnoticed, though. People that say speed isn't a factor in the majority of wrecks are wrong, for the most part. Speed is a factor in almost all wrecks. That doesn't mean that the one doing the speeding is the one causing the wreck all the time. There are other sources that cause wrecks that the outcome could possibly be greatly altered had speeds been different in other cars. Later, QD.

[AE86Raptor]

I understand the reasoning for this new "Super Speeder" law, but the real people is all the retards changing lanes without signaling, talking/texting on the cell phone while driving, slow people blocking off the left lane driving 10-15 mph slower than the posted speed limit and people tailgating others on the right lane. I was hit by a corrections officer the week before Thanksgiving and he totaled his state-owned Taurus. I will pretty much bet he was doing something with his cell phone. It's a start but like everything else it's a half-ass attempt. Remember, there are more stupid drivers out there who don't speed (typically the ones whom don't use their turn signals). Maybe taking the driving test again every so often would be an option...

[F8d2Blk]

And if you were going that 5mph faster then you would have hit the deer and probably been injured. Thanks for proving my point though.

Point of the matter is fate is already decided. Who knows maybe that 5 or 10mph faster would of put me in front of the deer and I would of never seen him or known there was a deer jumping across the road.

Basicly this is just a way for cops to pay for those nice new cars they drive.

[quickdodge®]

Basicly this is just a way for cops to pay for those nice new cars they drive.

Again, if they don't get your money, then they can find another way to pay for them. If they pay for them on your dime over this, then it's your own fault.

And I mean you in a general term, not you personally, F8d. Later, QD.

[BanginJimmy]

Point of the matter is fate is already decided. Who knows maybe that 5 or 10mph faster would of put me in front of the deer and I would of never seen him or known there was a deer jumping across the road.

So now instead of speed not being a factor, we should rely on divine intervention to keep us safe? You are even more detached from reality than I thought.

[ahabion]

Interstate 85 has a lot of 2 lane mileage on it. Every mile above exit 120 is 2 lane all the way to the state line.

That is a good question how this law will be handled in that area. Later, QD.

I thought they always counted the reverse way as well... so a two lane road would be one going one way, and one being the other... so I-85 would be considered a mostly 4 lane interestate.. .would it not?

[preferredduck]

But is it your right to kill someone else because of your choice to drive faster than necessary? Government mandated "safety" might be an infringement in the privacy of your own home, but when you're out on a public motorway, it's not just you anymore. Later, QD.

i wgree with you here. back in 00 i had a brand new SI and used to do alot of racing etc. the older i got i realixed i could have killed a mother, a family, a father etc. if i'm on a bumpkin backroad with nobody coming then let it rip and it would be my death only(which i don't do anyways), but on the freeway you need to be careful of other people. i know if i would have killed someone driving and lived i would have hell to pay in my mind the rest of my life for sure.

just tuesday i was going 85N and i noticed the flow of traffic was 85-90mph and it was hard as hell to slow below 80mph even in the slow lanes, it seemed nobody really cared about the law. then i saw the reader going down the road and brake checked him so he would put down the damn AJC.

[preferredduck]

Thats a chance you take every day getting in your car.

It all goes back to what your comfortable driving. I am just saying the added charge isn't going to change the way people drive and the roads aren't going to be any safer. Sorry to say that, so this superspeeder law is sham.

Here is the breakdown in Fatalaties in Georgia, 2007 from the census bureau.

Total: 1,641

Speed related fatalities -384 Total

Speeds-
Interstate:
Over 55 24 Total
Under 55 14 Total

Non Interstate:
55 and over -117
50mph -7
45mph -58
40mph -12
35mph -68
35 and under -28

So there was 1641 motor vehicle fatalities for 2007
384 were speed related
What were the other 1300 fatalities caused by? Probably a stupid driver.

i have a good example, women on cell phones. i'm telling you i have seen more people almost die from this than anyone speeding b/c the person usually speeding is not on the phone and has full attention to their car and surrounding cars. in a 6 mile stretch i saw a woman in an explorer almost cause 7 head on collisions and she ran off the road 7 times which she almost spun out on every time. when i brought this to her attention she got pissed like she did nothing wrong aven though she prob has had like 6 wrecks on her record.

[preferredduck]

Lolol.



I never praised anyone. Approving this law doesn't I'm approving the Governor. Which 285 do you get on? I see County on 285 all day damn near every day of the week. And I look because I drive a semi on that loop 5 days a week and they are always out there. Later, QD.

QD in a semi, that's scary, what do you drive? freightshaker, peterbuilt, mack?

[quickdodge®]

I thought they always counted the reverse way as well... so a two lane road would be one going one way, and one being the other... so I-85 would be considered a mostly 4 lane interestate.. .would it not?

I believe so. I wasn't thinking about the opposite lanes at the time.



just tuesday i was going 85N and i noticed the flow of traffic was 85-90mph and it was hard as hell to slow below 80mph even in the slow lanes,

I get exactly what you're saying and I am guilty of this as well at times. But the only thing I can't agree with is the "hard to slow down part." It's not hard to slow down at all. You just do it. If everyone else piles up behind you, then so be it. They can go around you or they can just wait. Why should you take a chance on getting that ticket just so the people behind you can drive however they want? Unless they're going to pay for the ticket and have those points put on their record, lolol. But again, I know exactly what you mean.


QD in a semi, that's scary, what do you drive? freightshaker, peterbuilt, mack?

Freightliner or Volvo is all I drive. Later, QD.

[mm2654]

As stated before the real problem with this law is that it was not intended to make the roads safer but rather to increase revenue for the state, case in point, if I were go 74 mph down a two lane road in some neighborhood with a speed limit of 25 mph I would not be affected by the super speeder laws even thought I was going nearly three time the posted speed limit. On the other hand if I were on i75 or i85 where the speed limit was 70 mph and I was going 85 mph, and less than 10 mph over the flow of traffic I would much less of a danger to the public than I would be in the prior circumstance. A better way to write this law would have been to make this law effective at a certain percentage above the posted speed or to say anyone going x mph over the posted speed limit.

[BanginJimmy]

As stated before the real problem with this law is that it was not intended to make the roads safer but rather to increase revenue for the state,

It was openly meant to create revenue for the trauma centers that are desperate for cash.





case in point, if I were go 74 mph down a two lane road in some neighborhood with a speed limit of 25 mph I would not be affected by the super speeder laws e


I have said several times that this law needs to be re-written to be dependent on the posted speed limit so we are in agreement there.

[Mchnhead2k5]

I thought they always counted the reverse way as well... so a two lane road would be one going one way, and one being the other... so I-85 would be considered a mostly 4 lane interestate.. .would it not?

According to the GA Drivers' Manual you are correct sir. Ex. One lane going northbound and the other lane southbound.

From the GA Drivers' Manual: This somewhat clarifies what a TWO-Lane road is.

How To Pass On A Two-Lane Road
Wait for a passing zone to begin. A passing zone is indicated by striped lines
to the right of the center line of the roadway. If the line nearest to your vehicle is solid, you are not in a passing zone. Look ahead along the roadway to determine the length of the passing zone and if there is traffic approaching
from the opposite direction. You must have sufficient time and space to
execute your passing maneuver and return your vehicle completely to the right lane before the passing zone ends, before entering an intersection, and before oncoming traffic is within 200 feet of your vehicle.

[F8d2Blk]

It was openly meant to create revenue for the trauma centers that are desperate for cash.

Technically then can use the money for whatever:

GA Law:

(e) All fees collected under the provisions of this Code section shall be deposited in the general fund of this state with the intent that these moneys be used to fund a trauma care system in Georgia and the direct and indirect costs associated with the administration of this Code section. The Office of Treasury and Fiscal Services shall separately account for all of the moneys received under the provisions of this Code section.

[Total_Blender]

Technically then can use the money for whatever:
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Well the state is flat broke... so I have no objection to that. If it were a choice between superspeeder or a tax hike I would go with superspeeder err'day. :2cents:

[quickdodge®]

If it were a choice between superspeeder or a tax hike I would go with superspeeder err'day. :2cents:

Fuck yeah! At least the super speeder law only affects those that break it. Tax hike would get everyone. Later, QD.

[BanginJimmy]

Well the state is flat broke... so I have no objection to that. If it were a choice between superspeeder or a tax hike I would go with superspeeder err'day. :2cents:


Something we actually agree about.

[JDMbabe]

i honestly don't have a problem with the law either. too many people have lost loved ones because of someone being completely stupid

[JDMbabe]

Fuck yeah! At least the super speeder law only affects those that break it. Tax hike would get everyone. Later, QD.


i agree. the people that break it are the ones that are going to be bitching about it, abide by the rules and you won't have to pay

[Justin51982]

i agree. the people that break it are the ones that are going to be bitching about it, abide by the rules and you won't have to pay

Agreed

[One_Bad_SHO]

A law that makes the roads safer for all of us? I'm all for it. Personally, I've found myself driving a lot slower because I don't want to pay such a HUGE fine for speeding. In my eyes, this law is nothing but a good thing.