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EJ25RUN
12-21-2009, 07:27 PM
http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/qq16/EJ25RUN/ast_1_x_zrh_1.jpg?t=1261440557
http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/qq16/EJ25RUN/ast_1_x_xfw_006.jpg?t=1261441317
http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/qq16/EJ25RUN/ast_1_x_xfw_011.jpg?t=1261441331
http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/qq16/EJ25RUN/ast_1_x_xfw_008.jpg?t=1261441325
http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/qq16/EJ25RUN/ast_1_x_xfw_004.jpg?t=1261441314
http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/qq16/EJ25RUN/ast_1_x_xfw_005.jpg?t=1261441319
http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/qq16/EJ25RUN/ast_1_x_xfw_012.jpg?t=1261441337
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jdm eg6
12-21-2009, 07:53 PM
damn

Genji-Sama
12-21-2009, 07:57 PM
Needs to be lowered on thrown on some Volks:ninja:

EJ25RUN
12-21-2009, 09:32 PM
I'm surprised i got some replys.

1360 hp it has.

roscoe
12-21-2009, 09:44 PM
Needs to be lowered on thrown on some Volks:ninja:

hmm... i concur

jdmdb8itr
12-21-2009, 11:57 PM
haha those things are amazing, ridin in one is fun

Brian*
12-22-2009, 12:01 AM
DAMN!! Pretty awesome lol

SampaGuy
12-22-2009, 12:46 AM
I paid 5 euros for a coke at that airport.

94whtdc2
12-22-2009, 12:49 AM
how bout the torque???

EJ25RUN
12-22-2009, 03:01 AM
how bout the torque???

Is measuring it in A380s ok?

JITB
12-22-2009, 03:06 AM
who makes the motor for it?

Stol3n
12-22-2009, 03:08 AM
"that's a huge bitch" - Deuce Bigalow

SlenderEG6
12-22-2009, 04:35 AM
i'd DD it

EJ25RUN
12-22-2009, 10:00 AM
who makes the motor for it?

AST-1 X 1360 (2 x 680hp engines)

length 443 in / 11.250 mm
width 177 in / 4.500 mm
tractive force 54.000 lbf / 240 kN
engine output 2x680 hp / 2x500 kW
max. speed 20 mph / 32 kph
max. NLG load 135.000 lbf / 600 kN
max. aircraft weight 1.320.000 lbs

Here's a diagram of the smaller AST-840

http://www.heavy-haulage-history.de/images/big/ast_1_a_840.jpg

Goldhofer site...

http://www.heavy-haulage-history.de/pages/main/flug4_e.html


The first prototype is equipped with two Deutz (KHD) V6-cylinder Diesel engines type BF6M1015 C. The total power of 2x 400 HP = 800 HP is distributed by hydraulic oil to the hydraulic motors, each in one of the 6 driven wheels (6x6).
In the biggest version the AST-1 X can be equipped with two Deutz (KHD) V8-cylinder Diesel engines type BF8M1015 CP, each rated at 600 HP. With this 1.200 HP hydrostatic drive system the tractor is able to reach the max. speed of 20 mph / 32 kph also with an aircraft weight of 600.000 lbs / 300.000 kg!

http://www.heavy-haulage-history.de/images/big/ast_1_x/ast_1_x_mm_diesel.jpg

cm7k24
12-22-2009, 10:45 AM
I paid 5 euros for a coke at that airport.
i paid that at the frankfurt airport, i little bottle also

Nerdsrock22
12-22-2009, 11:06 AM
Import Atlanta.

We will literally talk about anything with wheels.

EJ25RUN
12-22-2009, 03:53 PM
Import Atlanta.

We will literally talk about anything with wheels.

I know i will.

JITB
12-22-2009, 03:56 PM
will it ever be possible for a gasoline engine to do what diesels do so well?

EJ25RUN
12-22-2009, 05:06 PM
will it ever be possible for a gasoline engine to do what diesels do so well?

It did take diesels close to 70 years to do what gas engines do so well.

Daily drive.

Atlblkz06
12-22-2009, 11:10 PM
That thing is overpowered to hell!

Your average new truck that uses a Detroit Diesel Series 60 12.6L I6 engine makes:
380HP at 1800 and 1350TQ at 1200.

You just need one of the bigger 14L 500HP engines for traction and maybe a 4 banger to run the hydraulics.

On_Her_Face
12-23-2009, 12:56 AM
Specs on the plane please...

Cool Cat Racing
12-23-2009, 10:23 AM
That thing is overpowered to hell!

Your average new truck that uses a Detroit Diesel Series 60 12.6L I6 engine makes:
380HP at 1800 and 1350TQ at 1200.

You just need one of the bigger 14L 500HP engines for traction and maybe a 4 banger to run the hydraulics.

The whole thing is powered by hydraulics, even the 6 wheels. One engine would be impractical due to space and packaging constraints. I'm not a master on aircraft moving vehicles like you want to be but my guess is since they've been doing this a very long time, they know what is necessary to do the job. If a simpler way could be done I'm sure they would have done it by now.

Atlblkz06
12-23-2009, 11:45 AM
The whole thing is powered by hydraulics, even the 6 wheels. One engine would be impractical due to space and packaging constraints. I'm not a master on aircraft moving vehicles like you want to be but my guess is since they've been doing this a very long time, they know what is necessary to do the job. If a simpler way could be done I'm sure they would have done it by now.

lol no I don't want to be an expert - they dont make enough money and the unions screw em over.

There are too many things to run with 1 engine alone - but you misread my post - I'm all for 2 engines - but a 600hp diesel probably weighs in at 2500lb right I'm saying they're too big. Then again maybe the weight probably increases the power they can put to the ground and gives em bragging rights?! It doesn't take much HP to get this sort of work done since the work is happening so slowly (HP being work done over time).

Of course they "know what they're doing" - Microsoft has been improving on Windows for over 20 years so it should be perfect right? :lmfao:

JEY$JDM
12-23-2009, 12:23 PM
Dang... that sh!ts cool as hell! And that ''fvckin air-o-plane'' is huge! lolol

1360hp FTW! +rep for cool post *edit* when I can again

Dwisforme05
12-23-2009, 03:24 PM
fuck that thing, i was looking at the plane

EJ25RUN
12-23-2009, 03:26 PM
fuck that thing, i was looking at the plane

Antonov 225 has it beat it in everyway.

EuroR 5thGen
12-25-2009, 04:04 AM
Work in the shop at ATL that these get worked on in have there own little click of guys that work on them but we dont have one of those big boys yet. But damn you wanna talk about a wiring nightmare Damn

EJ25RUN
12-25-2009, 09:57 AM
Work in the shop at ATL that these get worked on in have there own little click of guys that work on them but we dont have one of those big boys yet. But damn you wanna talk about a wiring nightmare Damn

Any pics of the regulars? Or ATL in general?

On_Her_Face
12-25-2009, 01:13 PM
Antonov 225 has it beat it in everyway.

The Russian plane that transports other planes such as the NASA Space Shuttles?

EJ25RUN
12-25-2009, 02:32 PM
The Russian plane that transports other planes such as the NASA Space Shuttles?

Not exactly.

The Antonov AN225 is the Ukrainian plane built in the mid 80's to transport the Russian Buran space Shuttle. After the Buran's failure and the Soviet Union's fall, the program's money was. The AN225 sat for 8 years before being re-engined and turned from a military plane into a FAA/EASA regulated cargo plane. It is now the only airborne unit that can carry loads of 250 tons. The AN225's base plane, the AN124, is the second largest in the world and the much older AN22 is the largest propeller plane.

The AN225 finally got painted in 2009. Notice how the set of front wheels recline. There are also cranes inside the cargo bay. The U.S. military is said to be a user of the AN225 since the Galaxy is nowhere near its potential.

http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/qq16/EJ25RUN/1622594.jpg?t=1261769346

Bus Driver J
12-25-2009, 02:40 PM
It looks like you could play football in that thing...

EJ25RUN
12-25-2009, 02:42 PM
It looks like you could play football in that thing...

Which one?

Bus Driver J
12-25-2009, 02:45 PM
The AN225, probably the other one too.

EJ25RUN
12-25-2009, 02:51 PM
The AN225, probably the other one too.

Watch this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5M1RCHRIMM

Bus Driver J
12-25-2009, 02:59 PM
Thats nuts, only things like that make me interested in planes.

EJ25RUN
12-25-2009, 03:10 PM
Thats nuts, only things like that make me interested in planes.

That plane is the reason I'm in school to be a pilot.

On_Her_Face
12-25-2009, 06:43 PM
Not exactly.

The Antonov AN225 is the Ukrainian plane built in the mid 80's to transport the Russian Buran space Shuttle. After the Buran's failure and the Soviet Union's fall, the program's money was. The AN225 sat for 8 years before being re-engined and turned from a military plane into a FAA/EASA regulated cargo plane. It is now the only airborne unit that can carry loads of 250 tons. The AN225's base plane, the AN124, is the second largest in the world and the much older AN22 is the largest propeller plane.

The AN225 finally got painted in 2009. Notice how the set of front wheels recline. There are also cranes inside the cargo bay. The U.S. military is said to be a user of the AN225 since the Galaxy is nowhere near its potential.

http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/qq16/EJ25RUN/1622594.jpg?t=1261769346

Yeah I meant Russian cause I knew the builder was Russian, and also do you mean that it was not built to carry space craft but it still does?

Like this...
http://www.aviation.ru/An/An-225_Buran.jpg

EJ25RUN
12-25-2009, 07:29 PM
Yeah I meant Russian cause I knew the builder was Russian, and also do you mean that it was not built to carry space craft but it still does?

Like this...

It is Ukrainian. Not Russian.

It was built to A. Carry the Buran space shuttle, and B. Carry loads too large for the AN124.

It hasn't carried the space shuttle since the early 90's since it the space program was canceled when the Soviet Union fell. It was transformed from a military plane to a commercial cargo plane in the early 2000s. Antonov Airlines runs it now from Kiev.

On_Her_Face
12-25-2009, 07:51 PM
It is Ukrainian. Not Russian.

It was built to A. Carry the Buran space shuttle, and B. Carry loads too large for the AN124.

It hasn't carried the space shuttle since the early 90's since it the space program was canceled when the Soviet Union fell. It was transformed from a military plane to a commercial cargo plane in the early 2000s. Antonov Airlines runs it now from Kiev.

Ohh I thought the main guy who designed the ship was Russian and I know the company that actually built the ship was Ukrainan.

EJ25RUN
12-26-2009, 10:48 AM
Ohh I thought the main guy who designed the ship was Russian and I know the company that actually built the ship was Ukrainan.

Its complicated as Oleg Antonov was very old and his final work was the AN124. He died before the AN225 was complete although he was alive when the design process began.

Petro Balabuyev is credited with the AN225 and he was also Ukrainian.

This documentary goes over all the people involved.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prd4RNuB6YY&feature=related