Creatine!!!!

[Tech5]

Gives me Gas


But it works!!!!!!!!!!!!


I think!!!!

[punkr6]

Gross...

[Tech5]

Anyone has any side effects??

I been taking it for about 4 months and that is the only issue i have....

It has made me gain weight, mostly water weight/muscle volume

[lanning]

only negative effect is the loss of energy when you stop taking it other than water weight while you take it

[Tech5]

only negative effect is the loss of energy when you stop taking it other than water weight while you take it


I try and take it , and then wait about 30 mins and work out really hard!!!!! More reps, more weights.....


But the gassssssssss:(

[teh bri]

gross.



ps.. puppy is having bad dreams :(

[lanning]

yup, feel bloated as shit too

[Black4DrEK]

I took it a lil bit in high school...

LOL havent done SHIT in years!

[Tech5]

gross.



ps.. puppy is having bad dreams :(


You give your puppy creatine!!!! animal abuse dayum!!!!



And gross !!! I made you a thread GTFO :lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:

[Tech5]

I took it a lil bit in high school...

LOL havent done SHIT in years!


typical american lazzzy assss

[Tech5]

yup, feel bloated as shit too
:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(

Oh well , better healthy and bloated then under weight and un healthy

[teh bri]

You give your puppy creatine!!!! animal abuse dayum!!!!



And gross !!! I made you a thread GTFO :lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:

No I do not. :( She's my princess, spoiled rotten too. :tongue1:

[Tech5]

No I do not. :( She's my princess, spoiled rotten too. :tongue1:


unlike your men!:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:

[teh bri]

unlike your men!:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:

wtf? :thinking:


do. not. understand.

[Tech5]

wtf? :thinking:


do. not. understand.


i know one day you will when you are alone with only you princeesssss

[teh bri]

i know one day you will when you are alone with only you princeesssss

Sigh, I am alone.. ya idiot. :2up:

[Tech5]

Sigh, I am alone.. ya idiot. :2up:


OH!!!!


So my words are already speaking the truth:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:

[teh bri]

OH!!!!


So my words are already speaking the truth:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:

be nice. :(

[lanning]

pictures of the doggies

[Black4DrEK]

typical american lazzzy assss

LOL , naw just have other interest..

I not lazy ...Sex is the best work out:goodjob:

[Tech5]

pictures of the doggies
You asked for it

[Tech5]

LOL , naw just have other interest..

I not lazy ...Sex is the best work out:goodjob:


So how do you and him do it:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:

[Black4DrEK]

Pm me maybe i can show u...




























:eek: ooooooo nnooooo

[Tech5]

Pm me maybe i can show u...




























:eek: ooooooo nnooooo

Whats his name is it (punkr6)

[Black4DrEK]

Whats his name is it (punkr6)


Yea i believe sooo He says you two have been FULLY introduced!

[Tech5]

Yea i believe sooo He says you two have been FULLY introduced!


thats correct he bought a car from me, and he admitted he was ghey and your his lover:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:

[teh bri]

You asked for it



:eek:

[Black4DrEK]

thats correct he bought a car from me, and he admitted he was ghey and your his lover:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:


Well i guess the beans have been spilt! :no:

[Tech5]

Vtec poppin i don't think that is the only thing

[Black4DrEK]

Shit man, Vtec aint doin a damn thing right now!

Enuff of the gay talk.. lol.. Im far from it..

You can have the title

[Tech5]

lololol......You car is a POS

or you have the wrong tech working on it

[Black4DrEK]

^ LOL

My car is a POS???

Please tell me how??

[Tech5]

^ LOL

My car is a POS???

Please tell me how??

If YO Vtec isnt a popping you have a POS

[Black4DrEK]

The head I just recently put on there had a Bad ECT switch and also Vtec SOLENOID was bad..

All i need is a Solenoid now.

If my car is a POS because my Solenoid is bad... WOW.

[95alty]

Ive had random cramps from using creatine monohydrate but have switched to a creatine which dismisses the water weight and puts on solid muscle mass

[bowdown201]

Havent taken creatine in a while but cant really remember it giving me gas. Protein on the other hand.....

BTW what kind of creatine are you taking? GNC stuff?

[Tech5]

SixStar Professional Strength

[ATLSRT8]

Creatine will just give you water weight and bloat you, after you stop taking it all the weigtht you gained will go away. I prefer pre-workout drinks with creatine laced in them: super pump 250, N.O. Xplode, N.O. Shotgun

[Tech5]

Creatine will just give you water weight and bloat you, after you stop taking it all the weigtht you gained will go away. I prefer pre-workout drinks with creatine laced in them: super pump 250, N.O. Xplode, N.O. Shotgun


How does that work for you?

[ATLSRT8]

How does that work for you?

Increased energy in the gym, more intense pumps, increase in vascularity.......I will never take straight creatine ever again.

[Tech5]

Increased energy in the gym, more intense pumps, increase in vascularity.......I will never take straight creatine ever again.
All that can be bought at GNC?

[ATLSRT8]

All that can be bought at GNC?

I prefer bodybuilding.com it's cheaper and if you order early enough it will show up the next day bc it ships out of Florida. Also if you order over $75 worth of shit, you get to pick from a list of free items; I usually get their t-shirts.

But yes you can get all that at GNC.....IMO stay away from anything BSN bc it's just the same stuff with a ridiculous markup bc all the bodybuilders are paid to promote it.

My current supps
http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee22/ATLSRT8/supps.jpg

[§treet_§peed]

Never did anything for me except turn my piss neon yellow. Also, what kind are you taking?

[Tech5]

Guess you didnt read???

[§treet_§peed]

I prefer bodybuilding.com it's cheaper and if you order early enough it will show up the next day bc it ships out of Florida. Also if you order over $75 worth of shit, you get to pick from a list of free items; I usually get their t-shirts.

But yes you can get all that at GNC.....IMO stay away from anything BSN bc it's just the same stuff with a ridiculous markup bc all the bodybuilders are paid to promote it.

My current supps
http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee22/ATLSRT8/supps.jpg
You can also google the products you want and find them a lot cheaper as well. I used to spend about 200 every 2-3 weeks on things when I was really into body building.

[silversol]

I like N o explode!

[§treet_§peed]

Also beware of a lot of products. Always research them first, some will do more harm than good. While a lot of them just make you waste money, they run straight through you without doing anyhting to benefit you and you piss them right out.

[amandDA]

Gross...
lol

[§treet_§peed]

I used to take Anavol Hardcore. It's a type of creatine that DOES NOT CAUSE you to gain water weight. That way you don't feel bloated and you don't shrink when you quit taking it.

[bowdown201]

Thats why I asked what kinda you were taking Josh. I was gonna suggest Super Pump like ATLSRT8 said.

Hes also right about the water weight. Once you get off the creatine youll just end up losing it unless you start taking something else.

[Tech5]

Thats why I asked what kinda you were taking Josh. I was gonna suggest Super Pump like ATLSRT8 said.

Hes also right about the water weight. Once you get off the creatine youll just end up losing it unless you start taking something else.


thanks homie

[§treet_§peed]

Thats why I asked what kinda you were taking Josh. I was gonna suggest Super Pump like ATLSRT8 said.

Hes also right about the water weight. Once you get off the creatine youll just end up losing it unless you start taking something else.That's why I like Anavol. It's not a water based creatine supplement like most others. It doesn't make you hold just water.
Here's some info on the three types of Creatine.

http://www.muscle-body.com/general/how-does-creatine-help-build-muscle/
http://www.gain-weight-muscle-fast.com/creatine-dosage.html
http://www.bodybuildingfanatic.com/creatinefaq.htm

[bowdown201]

Yea I know about Anavol. I was just referring to the basic creatine capsules.

[§treet_§peed]

Yea I know about Anavol. I was just referring to the basic creatine capsules.lol I figured you were, I was just giving a little more input on what I know from my experience.

[95alty]

Also try a carb loader and a pre workout such as Jack3d (new shit) and they work amazing

[§treet_§peed]

I agree with taking a pre-workout supplement it helps pump you up. But also be cautious of a lot of supplements. A lot are garbage that do nothing for you, just promoted but do nothing. Always do your research on anything you are taking or thinking about taking for the best results.

[Njobe]

just try steroids

[ATLSRT8]

just try steroids

Word!!!


Here are my personal opinions on the 3 pre-workout supps. (remember everyone's body reacts diff to the same products)

N.O. Shotgun us garbage I didn't feel anything from.

N.O. Xplode was my favorite for the longest time but requires 2 scoops, so I would go through a bottle way too quick.

Super Pump 250 is my current favorite bc it's only one scoop and gives me more energy than the others.

[GirlieZ]

Gives me Gas


But it works!!!!!!!!!!!!


I think!!!!

ugh..that stuff just bloats your sacromeres with water, nothing else.

[bowdown201]

just try steroids

Honestly best advice in this thread lol. The people that bash them dont know anything about them.

[dvlerin41]

:goodjob:
Honestly best advice in this thread lol. The people that bash them dont know anything about them.

Just for some info you need to be cycling creatine 1 month ON 1 month OFF.

U dont want to shut your natural production of creatine down. Never got any sides from Creatine, besides bad dehydration when I played football in FL and some serious gas.

[ludeguy420]

why even take it?? i didnt take anything when i was in high school an i benced 275 power cleaned 275 an squated 450.. an only weight 147... its all about how hard you work n push your self in the weight room

[bowdown201]

:goodjob:

Just for some info you need to be cycling creatine 1 month ON 1 month OFF.

U dont want to shut your natural production of creatine down. Never got any sides from Creatine, besides bad dehydration when I played football in FL and some serious gas.

ERIN!!! Heard what your about to purchase again. :goodjob: Good stuff

[dvlerin41]

Its already arrived:yes:

[Tech5]

Word!!!


Here are my personal opinions on the 3 pre-workout supps. (remember everyone's body reacts diff to the same products)

N.O. Shotgun us garbage I didn't feel anything from.

N.O. Xplode was my favorite for the longest time but requires 2 scoops, so I would go through a bottle way too quick.

Super Pump 250 is my current favorite bc it's only one scoop and gives me more energy than the others.

OK Just came from GNC tonight and I got new creatine caps, that doesnt full up your with bloating an full of water, and I also got some SUPER PUMP lol I asked them for SUPER PIMP the lady said you mean SUPER PUMP lololo
Its the 250 and blue berry I took 2 scoops and holly shitt I feel like I can work out for more time!!!!!
Also got some better protein Choc flavor!! super good!!!!

I went to the store and bought 150 bucks of fruit , and nuts, and vegiies

Off to a good start...oh and I had like 10 glasses of water today god I hate the taste of water...Anything I can do to the taste with out adding a lot of sugar>>>?????

[Tech5]

why even take it?? i didnt take anything when i was in high school an i benced 275 power cleaned 275 an squated 450.. an only weight 147... its all about how hard you work n push your self in the weight room
:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:

Most 300lb guys cant even do that!!!!!

[MrSVT]

had a friend taking it, it does what! but if u over dose by a little it could end up like him in the hospital

[Tech5]

had a friend taking it, it does what! but if u over dose by a little it could end up like him in the hospital
what happen??? cause of thiss????

[Njobe]

:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:

Most 300lb guys cant even do that!!!!!
if you are talking about 300lbs fat people that sit on the couch all day then, no. i have yet to see someone that's a healthy 300lbs and that can't do that.

what happen??? cause of thiss????
natrual way is the way to go :D

[GirlieZ]

i dont understand why ppl take any of this crap.

why would you waste money on something that is only damaging your body (vital organs, joints, muscles, etc for example)?

if you do see any 'results' they can only be maintained with the product, it is not a lifestyle you can maintain for your whole life. It is also not beneficial for your body in the short or long term.

why take any stimulants or supps if you are just doing it to be vain? i dont even encourage it in my age group or pro athletes i train. my husband, who has played on a pro level and is training again to return to pro status, wont touch even creatine or AA, yet he is 5'8'', 185 lbs and 8-9 percent FM (fatty mass or body fat) in season and has plenty of power and strength to lay guys out and make 95mph slapshots just through proper training and nutrition.

[Tech5]

i dont understand why ppl take any of this crap.

why would you waste money on something that is only damaging your body (vital organs, joints, muscles, etc for example)?

if you do see any 'results' they can only be maintained with the product, it is not a lifestyle you can maintain for your whole life. It is also not beneficial for your body in the short or long term.

why take any stimulants or supps if you are just doing it to be vain? i dont even encourage it in my age group or pro athletes i train. my husband, who has played on a pro level and is training again to return to pro status, wont touch even creatine or AA, yet he is 5'8'', 185 lbs and 8-9 percent FM (fatty mass or body fat) in season and has plenty of power and strength just through proper training and nutrition.

You show ONE study that proves your FACTS!!!!

I have done many many searches with nothing other then GAS Bloating and the shittssss.....Which I have on GAS.......lololol which I changed this up and now I am fine!!!!!


Its a proven fact that this has nothing as a long term effect to hurt anything.. I am not talking about steriods DOH DOH

[Njobe]

for every action there is a reaction.

[Tech5]

for every action there is a reaction.
With a loaded gun yes, with steriods yes, with creatine NO....There isnt no proof of this!!!! being BAD!!!!

[GirlieZ]

You show ONE study that proves your FACTS!!!!

I have done many many searches with nothing other then GAS Bloating and the shittssss.....Which I have on GAS.......lololol which I changed this up and now I am fine!!!!!


Its a proven fact that this has nothing as a long term effect to hurt anything.. I am not talking about steriods DOH DOH

you can just google it....same difference and saves me time (PS wiki or google Creatine kinase to get your physiology right, and tell me if h20 is NOT a byproduct of it's synthesis)

why put anything in your body that is not regulated? that is just ASKING for trouble, and my arguement extends to all supps, riods, etc

[Njobe]

With a loaded gun yes, with steriods yes, with creatine NO....There isnt no proof of this!!!! being BAD!!!!
everything you can't get natrually for you is bad. just eat plenty of protein enriched food and you'll be fine. it will take you longer to see improvements, but when you get there at least you know it's all natural.

[Tech5]

you can just google it....same difference and saves me time (PS wiki or google Creatine kinase to get your physiology right, and tell me if h20 is NOT a byproduct of it's synthesis)

why put anything in your body that is not regulated? that is just ASKING for trouble, and my arguement extends to all supps, riods, etc


I have done my research and nothing about creatine being bad like you stated ......If you said steriods is bad I might agree!!!!!!

But Creatine is a as safe as drinking our shitty water system!!!!

What about going to wal mart and getting a cart!!! NOW that shitt is unsafe as mannny Germs like the swin flu is there and I can tell you from experience its deadly!!!!!

[Tech5]

everything you can't get natrually for you is bad. just eat plenty of protein enriched food and you'll be fine. it will take you longer to see improvements, but when you get there at least you know it's all natural.

MYTH!!!!!!!

[GirlieZ]

everything you can't get natrually for you is bad. just eat plenty of protein enriched food and you'll be fine. it will take you longer to see improvements, but when you get there at least you know it's all natural.

as far as protien is concerned, there are 16+ AA (amino acids) vital for muscle rebuilding that can ONLY be found in beef. it cannot be man made

[Njobe]

MYTH!!!!!!!
which do you like more, implants or natural tits?

[Tech5]

as far as protien is concerned, there are 16+ AA (amino acids) vital for muscle rebuilding that can ONLY be found in beef. it cannot be man made


Thats why I eat a small portion of steak every day!!!

[Tech5]

which do you like more, implants or natural tits?
Implants I am a dude hoe!!!:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:

[GirlieZ]

I have done my research and nothing about creatine being bad like you stated ......If you said steriods is bad I might agree!!!!!!

But Creatine is a as safe as drinking our shitty water system!!!!

What about going to wal mart and getting a cart!!! NOW that shitt is unsafe as mannny Germs like the swin flu is there and I can tell you from experience its deadly!!!!!

i dont think it is bad, i think it is a WASTE and just bloats your muscles with water, it does not build new sacromeres.

you can get the recommended amount of creatine through nutrition.

[Njobe]

Implants I am a dude hoe!!!:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:
forgot to say they are the same size. C cup natural or implants

[GirlieZ]

forgot to say they are the same size. C cup natural or implants

natural C!

ASE did you read that wiki article? usually this info is pretty on point bc it is moderated by sports medicine doctors, im too lazy to get access to the online medical literature database right now, so the wiki article will do

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creatine_kinase

[Njobe]

natural C!

ASE did you read that wiki article? usually this info is pretty on point bc it is moderated by sports medicine doctors, im too lazy to get access to the online medical literature database right now, so the wiki article will do

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creatine_kinase
ty

[Tech5]

i dont think it is bad, i think it is a WASTE and just bloats your muscles with water, it does not build new sacromeres.

you can get the recommended amount of creatine through nutrition.


There are NEW types of creatine that does not bloat,nor gas you or fill you with water and is a waste........

Also only known health report of being bad is 1 case of someone having kidney stones and who says that person doesnt drink MT DEW and MILK everyday

[GirlieZ]

There are NEW types of creatine that does not bloat,nor gas you or fill you with water and is a waste........

Also only known health report of being bad is 1 case of someone having kidney stones and who says that person doesnt drink MT DEW and MILK everyday

OKAY, let me get this NEW? you know your body will break down whatever you put into it or you will piss/shit it out....

so in this case, if your body isn’t pissing/shitting out this 'new' type of creatine out b/c it doesn’t recognize it, then it would be breaking it down to the molecular level as creatine, so it would still have the same molecular structure of the 'OLD' creatine, thus having water as a byproduct, therefore causing 'bloating' in the scaromere (muscle cell)....

PS im not trying to be hard on you ASE, just educate you!

[Tech5]

OKAY, let me get this NEW? you know your body will break down whatever you put into it or you will piss/shit it out....

so in this case, if your body isn’t pissing/shitting out this 'new' type of creatine out b/c it doesn’t recognize it, then it would be breaking it down to the molecular level as creatine, so it would still have the same molecular structure of the 'OLD' creatine, thus having water as a byproduct, therefore causing 'bloating' in the scaromere (muscle cell)....





ok................................................ ......




Dayum thanks for caring so much about me....I wanna hug!!

[GirlieZ]

ok................................................ ......




Dayum thanks for caring so much about me....I wanna hug!!

**hugs**

[Njobe]

group hug?

[Tech5]

group hug?
You can hug my monkey

[Njobe]

You can hug my monkey
could of said something here, but ill be nice and just call you gay. for now :ninja:

[Tech5]

:sunshine::look:
**hugs**

[Tech5]

:boxing::boxing::boxing::boxing::boxing::boxing::b oxing:
could of said something here, but ill be nice and just call you gay. for now :ninja:

[GirlieZ]

You can hug my monkey

ohh is it the evil monkey from family guy? bc that would be rad!

okay im out guys..gota run to blockbuster by midnight before they fine me for another night!

[Njobe]

:boxing::boxing::boxing::boxing::boxing::boxing::b oxing:
:gay:

ohh is it the evil monkey from family guy? bc that would be rad!

okay im out guys..gota run to blockbuster by midnight before they fine me for another night!
it is already midnight :ninja:

[Tech5]

bye babe

[Tech5]

:gay:

it is already midnight :ninja:


She isnt in GA time!

[Njobe]

She isnt in GA time!
shut up, get out of my head!

edit: damn this 30 sec post thing shit

[Tech5]

shut up, get out of my head!

edit: damn this 30 sec post thing shit:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:

You must own a PC:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:

[Njobe]

:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:

You must own a PC:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:
yes :(

[Tech5]

yes :(

I am sorry:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:

[Njobe]

I am sorry:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:
you should be, i think.

[ATLSRT8]

Honestly best advice in this thread lol. The people that bash them dont know anything about them.

Very true....most people think if you take steroids and workout your normal routine you will become a monster. FALSE!! People that are on steroids and use them properly will work twice as hard as most people do naturally to see significant results.


why even take it?? i didnt take anything when i was in high school an i benced 275 power cleaned 275 an squated 450.. an only weight 147... its all about how hard you work n push your self in the weight room

I am gonna call bullshit; and half of your statement is true but everyone has a plateau point for their body naturally, supplements help aid in getting over that natural plateau


had a friend taking it, it does what! but if u over dose by a little it could end up like him in the hospital

Your friends an idiot, just drink an ass load of water and you will never have a problem with it.


i dont understand why ppl take any of this crap.

why would you waste money on something that is only damaging your body (vital organs, joints, muscles, etc for example)?

if you do see any 'results' they can only be maintained with the product, it is not a lifestyle you can maintain for your whole life. It is also not beneficial for your body in the short or long term.

why take any stimulants or supps if you are just doing it to be vain? i dont even encourage it in my age group or pro athletes i train. my husband, who has played on a pro level and is training again to return to pro status, wont touch even creatine or AA, yet he is 5'8'', 185 lbs and 8-9 percent FM (fatty mass or body fat) in season and has plenty of power and strength to lay guys out and make 95mph slapshots just through proper training and nutrition.

Sorry none of that is true unless someone is abusing supplements. I have been in the fitness industry for 8 years and have done the research. No products damage you if you take the proper dosage. Also if I was a professional athlete (or training to get to pro-status) I wouldn't touch a single supp either bc as soon as you gain 10 lbs you get called out for steroids.

[Tech5]

Very true....most people think if you take steroids and workout your normal routine you will become a monster. FALSE!! People that are on steroids and use them properly will work twice as hard as most people do naturally to see significant results.



I am gonna call bullshit; and half of your statement is true but everyone has a plateau point for their body naturally, supplements help aid in getting over that natural plateau



Your friends an idiot, just drink an ass load of water and you will never have a problem with it.



Sorry none of that is true unless someone is abusing supplements. I have been in the fitness industry for 8 years and have done the research. No products damage you if you take the proper dosage. Also if I was a professional athlete (or training to get to pro-status) I wouldn't touch a single supp either bc as soon as you gain 10 lbs you get called out for steroids.


I tried man but they are both just crazy and has there info from the wrong place!!!!

thanks for your help man!!!!

[ATLSRT8]

I tried man but they are both just crazy and has there info from the wrong place!!!!

thanks for your help man!!!!

Yeah quite a few people have ignorant views on a lot of this stuff, but to each their own. I won't do anything to fuck up my buddy, and I have done every supplement out there including a lot of pro-hormones.

[95alty]

Beef is essential in weightlifting thats why I stock up on grass fed beef and ground beef. And people forget that natural plateus are a bitch to break. ASE and SRT i recommend yall try the stuff called "Jack3d" its at GNC and has 40 servings in one little ass can. Its 30 bucks and works wonders. I was sponsored by the people who make NO Shotgun and came to the conclusion its not safe and its caffeine to creatine levels along with the mixtures of creatine were causing cramps and muscle spasms. Super Pump i started using when the product was 11.99 lol... Good stuff I recommend trying their matching carb loader if you want a crazy pump. NO Explode was good to say the least. But remember your pre workouts work best on an empty stomach as well as your creatine pills/powder. Body doesnt have to pick through the food in order for the supplement to hit your system.

[bowdown201]

Im surprised this hasnt been moved to the lifestyle section lol

[Tech5]

Yeah quite a few people have ignorant views on a lot of this stuff, but to each their own. I won't do anything to fuck up my buddy, and I have done every supplement out there including a lot of pro-hormones.

Agree!!!!

And thanks again for your help man!

[GirlieZ]

Sorry none of that is true unless someone is abusing supplements. I have been in the fitness industry for 8 years and have done the research. No products damage you if you take the proper dosage. Also if I was a professional athlete (or training to get to pro-status) I wouldn't touch a single supp either bc as soon as you gain 10 lbs you get called out for steroids.


Everyone responds to supps/med/riods differently. These products DO damage your body after repeated use, even if it is the proper dosage/cycling.

My husband plays hockey, a sport which riod and supp use is not widespread.
I coach triathletes, a sport that riod/blood doping/supp use is widespread. And recent deaths from usage have been an growing issue. The ITU and USAT only test pro/national team athletes so usage in age group athletes is a growing problem (where most the issues are coming from).

It all comes down to ethics in pro sports with the usage of supps/riods/doping. As far as the 'recreational' supp user is concerned, I still am strictly against it. And I too have been involved in national/international level competition and professional athletics for over a decade, been coaching for almost 9 years, and I have heard both sides and the gray area over and over again. I was encouraged by a couple of my coaches to go on creatine as an age group athlete and even now been offered vasodilators to race on, i said no thanks.

[§treet_§peed]

Some of you people have no idea what you are talking about when it comes to this subject.

[§treet_§peed]

Everyone responds to supps/med/riods differently. These products DO damage your body after repeated use, even if it is the proper dosage/cycling.

My husband plays hockey, a sport which riod and supp use is not widespread.
I coach triathletes, a sport that riod/blood doping/supp use is widespread. And recent deaths from usage have been an growing issue. The ITU and USAT only test pro/national team athletes so usage in age group athletes is a growing problem (where most the issues are coming from).

It all comes down to ethics in pro sports with the usage of supps/riods/doping. As far as the 'recreational' supp user is concerned, I still am strictly against it. And I too have been involved in national/international level competition and professional athletics for over a decade, been coaching for almost 9 years, and I have heard both sides and the gray area over and over again. I was encouraged by a couple of my coaches to go on creatine as an age group athlete and even now been offered vasodilators to race on, i said no thanks.
Not all of these products damage you. I used to work out with guys that have been using supplements and different types of steroids and are in perfect shape. They are in their 40's and probably in better shape than your husband. Now some things are bad for you, but that's why you do your homework to weed out the bad ones. Hell technically alcohol is worse than marijuana, but which is legal?

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O and another thing. You've been involved with national level sports since you were 14 or younger?

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Also, anything and everything can be misused and/or abused. Some times you need that extra little push to get to a certain level. I wouldn't say become dependent on anything. Even if you do work out with no help from supplements you will never get really big. You will also loose it just as fast if you ever decide to quit working out. I tried working out natural for over year and never got anywhere. I kept the same routine of working out, which took me a year to perfect, and added supplements, then I started seeing wonderful improvements. I haven't worked out but maybe three times in the last year, but still have most of the strength I had while on supplements and some of the size. A lot of people love jumping on the band wagon about ALL supplements being bad. Just like roids. Hell look at Arnold Schwarzenegger, he used roids for a very very long period of time. He done it properly and even though he lost his huge build when he quit, he is still a healthy person.

[WickedIXMR]

Damn this makes me want to get back in the gym! I used to take creatine and NO explode. It's so hard to get motivated without a workout buddy. Anyone workout at lifetime in John's creek? Lol.

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Damn this makes me want to get back in the gym! I used to take creatine and NO explode. It's so hard to get motivated without a workout buddy. Anyone workout at lifetime in John's creek? Lol.
Tell me about it man. That's one of the reasons why I stopped working out. My friend is building a gym on his back porch fully inclosed and wants me to start working out again with him when he gets it done. I want to but it's so hard to get back into it after you have been out of it for so long.

[ATLSRT8]

Some of you people have no idea what you are talking about when it comes to this subject.

This man speaks the truth :goodjob:

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Beef is essential in weightlifting thats why I stock up on grass fed beef and ground beef. And people forget that natural plateus are a bitch to break. ASE and SRT i recommend yall try the stuff called "Jack3d" its at GNC and has 40 servings in one little ass can. Its 30 bucks and works wonders. I was sponsored by the people who make NO Shotgun and came to the conclusion its not safe and its caffeine to creatine levels along with the mixtures of creatine were causing cramps and muscle spasms. Super Pump i started using when the product was 11.99 lol... Good stuff I recommend trying their matching carb loader if you want a crazy pump. NO Explode was good to say the least. But remember your pre workouts work best on an empty stomach as well as your creatine pills/powder. Body doesnt have to pick through the food in order for the supplement to hit your system.

Thanks for the info, I will look into the "jack3d" stuff.

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But seriously, it takes a lot more research than a few google searches. Ask around on different body forums what others use, how they cycle, and so forth. Ask people at the gym you go too. I wouldn't suggest asking most people that work a nutritional supply stores or GNC, because from my experience I have only talked to three people at 9 different stores that actually knew what they were talking about. Most don't even know about half the products in the store. Whenever I used to swing by to get samples of different things to try, I've had several times happen to were I ended up explaining about different products to a customer because the employee working didn't know wtf he was talking about. All I'm saying is just don't listen to everything you hear without supplied evidence and you researching the stuff.

[GirlieZ]

Not all of these products damage you. I used to work out with guys that have been using supplements and different types of steroids and are in perfect shape. They are in their 40's and probably in better shape than your husband. Now some things are bad for you, but that's why you do your homework to weed out the bad ones. Hell technically alcohol is worse than marijuana, but which is legal?

I am sure there are ALOT of ppl in better shape than my husband or I, that is beauty of competition, to make yourself better. I am sure some of these guys 'look' fine on the outside but riods specifically do horrible damage to ligaments/tendons/cartilage not to mention your organs, esp liver/kidneys. I am sure most of them will leave out injuries in their stories.

I have done my HW on this, ALOT of homework on it, with a bachelors and half way to my masters in exercise physiology. I favor more aerobic and endurance based physiology than supp/roid/power stuff. You have to look where you are getting your information from, are you getting it from the manufacturer or are you getting it from a third party, that has tested the product without sway from either end. You also have to take into account that none of these are government regulated and you are subject to having filler or replacement product, ie you are not really getting what you think you are. IMO the best place to get your information is from accredited medical journals such as the ACSM, etc.

And as far as national level athletics, first year qualifying for nationals in swimming was when i was 14, also the first of many training/testing trips to the Olympic training center in Colorado springs was that summer.

Like i stated before, there are many schools of thought on supp/roid use. I am just against it.

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DAYUM CREATINE? what pct you runnin?

you only got one liver brah....

lol @ GNC

[Tech5]

Damn this makes me want to get back in the gym! I used to take creatine and NO explode. It's so hard to get motivated without a workout buddy. Anyone workout at lifetime in John's creek? Lol.


I have a body solid total gym at my house, treadmill,bikes....I have a spare living room down stairs that I turned into a work out room so all my stuff is paid for so i have no need to go to a gym...Now MMA or boxing I am game!!!!