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Elbow
12-14-2009, 09:27 AM
The only thing that really matters.

http://i964.photobucket.com/albums/ae124/simontibbs/1993Dauer962LeMans.jpg

http://i964.photobucket.com/albums/ae124/simontibbs/1994_Dauer_962LeMans3.jpg

http://i964.photobucket.com/albums/ae124/simontibbs/962lm-01.jpg

http://i964.photobucket.com/albums/ae124/simontibbs/dauer14.jpg

http://i964.photobucket.com/albums/ae124/simontibbs/dauer21.jpg

http://i964.photobucket.com/albums/ae124/simontibbs/dauer6.jpg

http://i964.photobucket.com/albums/ae124/simontibbs/dauer7.jpg

http://i964.photobucket.com/albums/ae124/simontibbs/dauer9626252dnsi4.jpg

bdydrpdmazda
12-14-2009, 09:29 AM
yeah, thats pretty fucking sick...

FLIPside
12-14-2009, 09:41 AM
The only thing that really matters.

http://i964.photobucket.com/albums/ae124/simontibbs/1993Dauer962LeMans.jpg

:goodjob: REPS ! One of the sexxxyest vehicles ever produced . !

EJ25RUN
12-14-2009, 09:58 AM
Too bad Sultan of Brunei has 80% of the ones in existence.

Atlblkz06
12-14-2009, 10:10 AM
Too bad Sultan of Brunei has 80% of the ones in existence.

I hate hogs... Damn collectors just get these vehicles and they rot in a garage. What a waste.

EJ25RUN
12-14-2009, 10:16 AM
I hate hogs... Damn collectors just get these vehicles and they rot in a garage. What a waste.

No kidding. I remember reading this Car and Driver issue more than 10 years ago.

http://img16.exs.cx/img16/7701/sultan4w.jpg

imperception
12-14-2009, 10:17 AM
what the hell is that? Knowing you it's German...

Atlblkz06
12-14-2009, 10:22 AM
what the hell is that? Knowing you it's German...

Do those (tail) lights not scream Porsche?
Just scroll down at EJ25's article :)

Edit: Adding a pic.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/78/Porsche_962_1988_Le_Mans_at_Silverstone_2007.JPG

imperception
12-14-2009, 10:22 AM
Do those lights not scream Porsche?

Just scroll down at EJ25's article :)

Apparently I'm not as Porche knowledgable as I should be lol. :taun:

EJ25RUN
12-14-2009, 10:23 AM
what the hell is that? Knowing you it's German...

That there is a car Porsche used to win Le Mans by "interpreting" regulations to a new extreme.

The 956 started life in 1982 for the new FIA Group C sports car racing formula.

By 1985, a newer, safer version of the car was developed. The 962.

Dauer was an Austrian business man that converted race 962s into street cars.

In 1994, when the ACO banned Group C cars from Le Mans, Porsche realized that a street 962 from Dauer could be fit to qualify under ACO new GT1 regs.

Therefore, it could use a 120L fuel tank compared to the 80L in the prototypes. So even though it was slower, it was longer running.

This meant that a race car, that was turned into a street car, was turned back into a race car.

And banned right after the Le Mans victory.

imperception
12-14-2009, 10:30 AM
That there is a car Porsche used to win Le Mans by "interpreting" regulations to a new extreme.

The 956 started life in 1982 for the new FIA Group C sports car racing formula.

By 1985, a newer, safer version of the car was developed. The 962.

Dauer was an Austrian business man that converted race 962s into street cars.

In 1994, when the ACO banned Group C cars from Le Mans, Porsche realized that a street 962 from Dauer could be fit to qualify under ACO new GT1 regs.

Therefore, it could use a 120L fuel tank compared to the 80L in the prototypes. So even though it was slower, it was longer running.

This meant that a race car, that was turned into a street car, was turned back into a race car.

And banned right after the Le Mans victory.

I have been educated. :cheers:

Atlblkz06
12-14-2009, 10:31 AM
I have been educated. :cheers:

X2!

EJ25RUN
12-14-2009, 10:32 AM
Edit: Adding a pic.

[IMG]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/78/Porsche_962_1988_Le_Mans_at_Silverstone_2007.JPG[img]

1988 was a great year. One of the greatest ever actually.

Yan Lammers Jaguar's gearbox fell apart as soon as the team opened up the casing. They beat the final factory supported 962 that year and that ended Porsche's 7 year freight train at Le Sarthe.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a40hxCRS7nc

ItsBlack
12-14-2009, 10:35 AM
is that the shifter off to the right?? I see an ebrake in the middle and no paddles (from what I can see)

http://i964.photobucket.com/albums/ae124/simontibbs/dauer7.jpg

On_Her_Face
12-14-2009, 10:38 AM
Sick car, however I do not know how I feel about the interior.

EJ25RUN
12-14-2009, 10:43 AM
is that the shifter off to the right?? I see an ebrake in the middle and no paddles (from what I can see)


From QV500...

Another unique feature is a special transmission that combines the normal 962 gearbox and clutch with Tiptronic S-style buttons on the steering wheel.


Sick car, however I do not know how I feel about the interior.

This was the early 90's.

Diablos could be had with purple and green leather.

Atlblkz06
12-14-2009, 10:48 AM
is that the shifter off to the right?? I see an ebrake in the middle and no paddles (from what I can see)



Good question. I did some searching and just saw "Attached to the engine is a unique transmission that uses the normal 962 manual box and clutch. But instead of using a gear lever, the driver select ratios via the Tiptronic S style knobs on the steering wheel."

It soudns like it would have some early form of PDK but I dont know though.

EJ25RUN
12-14-2009, 10:51 AM
Good question. I did some searching and just saw "Attached to the engine is a unique transmission that uses the normal 962 manual box and clutch. But instead of using a gear lever, the driver select ratios via the Tiptronic S style knobs on the steering wheel."

It soudns like it would have some early form of PDK but I dont know though.

The 956/962 were the first Porsches to use a PDK system in the 80's.

The first victory was Monza 1000K in 1986.

Atlblkz06
12-14-2009, 11:11 AM
The 956/962 were the first Porsches to use a PDK system in the 80's.

The first victory was Monza 1000K in 1986.

Ah ok. IT does look like a sequential shifter though - no lateral axis to move about.

Kinda like this sample sequential shifter:

http://image.turbomagazine.com/f/10514033/turp_0808_03_z+mazda_rx7_fd3s+sequential_shifter.j pg

EL42
12-14-2009, 11:23 AM
cool,they kinda remind me of the car form that movie the wraith
http://i700.photobucket.com/albums/ww2/slave-EL42/Wraith.jpg

speedminded
12-14-2009, 11:26 AM
That there is a car Porsche used to win Le Mans by "interpreting" regulations to a new extreme.

The 956 started life in 1982 for the new FIA Group C sports car racing formula.

By 1985, a newer, safer version of the car was developed. The 962.

Dauer was an Austrian business man that converted race 962s into street cars.

In 1994, when the ACO banned Group C cars from Le Mans, Porsche realized that a street 962 from Dauer could be fit to qualify under ACO new GT1 regs.

Therefore, it could use a 120L fuel tank compared to the 80L in the prototypes. So even though it was slower, it was longer running.

This meant that a race car, that was turned into a street car, was turned back into a race car.

And banned right after the Le Mans victory.lolol that is awesome. "The main competition would come from the Group C class as Dauer's cars were 15-seconds a lap quicker than their nearest GT1 rivals."

Found some videos...

Dauer 962 LeMans Part I:
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/Dauer-962-LeMans-Part1_175565.htm

Dauer 962 LeMans Part II
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/Dauer-962-LeMans-Part2_175576.htm

ZenMotors
12-14-2009, 11:27 AM
Awesome cars! I believe a handful are seen competing at One lap of America.

speedminded
12-14-2009, 11:31 AM
Awesome cars! I believe a handful are seen competing at One lap of America.You mean Ultima GTR?

ZenMotors
12-14-2009, 11:41 AM
You mean Ultima GTR?

Ah, I just glanced at the picture really quick. They do look very similar.

speedminded
12-14-2009, 11:52 AM
Ah, I just glanced at the picture really quick. They do look very similar.lol yeah, considering there were only a small handful ever built at over $1 million each nearly 20 years ago...and the Sultan of Brunei bought most of them. :tongue:

Sicko
12-14-2009, 12:04 PM
Similar? -Nope.

John@Z1
12-14-2009, 12:05 PM
cool,they kinda remind me of the car form that movie the wraith
http://i700.photobucket.com/albums/ww2/slave-EL42/Wraith.jpg


I think Sears is running a special on eye exams.

speedminded
12-14-2009, 12:09 PM
cool,they kinda remind me of the car form that movie the wraith
http://i700.photobucket.com/albums/ww2/slave-EL42/Wraith.jpgThat looks more like a Pontiac Fiero than a Le Mans race car.

JEY$JDM
12-14-2009, 12:47 PM
No kidding. I remember reading this Car and Driver issue more than 10 years ago.

http://img16.exs.cx/img16/7701/sultan4w.jpg
Damn that Sultan!

man
12-14-2009, 01:19 PM
Awesome car, but I bet it would be a bitch to drive on the roads around here lol

Glides
12-14-2009, 02:07 PM
Too bad Sultan of Brunei has 80% of the ones in existence.

The Sultan of Brunei is a homo....there..I said it. I was only thinking what everyone else was too scared to say!:goodjob:

Dirty Octopus™
12-14-2009, 02:19 PM
The Sultan of Brunei is a homo....there..I said it. I was only thinking what everyone else was too scared to say!:goodjob:
:lmfao:

EJ25RUN
12-14-2009, 03:10 PM
Here's a body work comparison of the Group C long tail 962 and a GT1 Dauer car.

http://www.supercars.net/gallery/119513/417/15987.jpg

lcortes32
12-14-2009, 03:16 PM
Nice

devo
12-14-2009, 06:40 PM
so effing sick. never knew there were road going versions

EJ25RUN
12-14-2009, 07:00 PM
so effing sick. never knew there were road going versions

The Dauer is one of 4 street versions that i know of. In terms of race version, there are close to ten different varients from outside brands.

DP 962
http://www.fantasycars.com/derek/cars/images/porsche/dp962_1.jpg

Koenig C62 (No, not the wheel company)
http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/sowhatsitcalled/images/koenig296420jy.jpg

Schuppan 962CR (Made by Vern Schuppan to honor his 1983 Le Mans victory.)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5f/Schuppan_962CR.jpg/800px-Schuppan_962CR.jpg

81911SC
12-14-2009, 07:11 PM
Don't stop posting, more info.

EJ25RUN
12-14-2009, 07:21 PM
Don't stop posting, more info.

Um, ok.

I guess the other bit of interesting info was the fact the 1994 LeMans was to be a one two finish for the Dauer Porsche if it weren't for Eddie Irvine's astonishing final laps in the Toyota to chase down Thierry Boutsen (Shell Oil car) on the second to last lap. This coming after Irvine was leading in the Toyota into the final hour only to have the shift linkage disengage and have his stop and fix it past the pits.

http://www.racingsportscars.com/photo/Le_Mans-1994-06-19.html?sort=Results

This was the final victory for a 962 at Le Mans. A victory spread of 13 years. Longer than any other race car ever.

I looked through my library and found some pics.

Brian*
12-15-2009, 09:39 AM
Beautiful!! But where is the navigation and cup warmer? j/k < seriously... lol

1SICKLEX
12-15-2009, 09:50 AM
Reps