FWD to RWD/AWD thread

[roscoe]

This thread might fail but I figured I'd toss the idea out there...
Post factory FWD cars converted to RWD or AWD. I'll start off with something simple:

http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r17/ITR-624/DC20Drift-1.jpg

[Sol-Badguy]

In for pictures. :goodjob:

[Sol-Badguy]

Only picture I can find of it. AWD CR-V drivetrain with an LS.

http://image.hondatuningmagazine.com/f/10403699+w750+st0/htup_0808_02_z+2008_sol_trains_honda_del_sol_meet_ las_vegas+awd_all_wheel_drive_del_sol.jpg

[DC2NR]

http://www.kris.1000lecie.pl/crxpics/crx%20(1).jpg

[Evil Goat]

http://www.m2race.com/images/Customers/brent_rau.jpg

[bloodline]

i seen that crx on youtube ..im sure its fast.. but that thing looks retarted

[00CelicaGT]

http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w114/oocelicagt/celicagatebil.jpg

her is a link to the build and some of there other cars they have built.
http://www.fensport.co.uk/gallery.htm

[87 Turbo II]

This thread should be called, "how to make cars not suck" cause FWD = evil. Fail wheel drive.

[roscoe]

This thread should be called, "how to make cars not suck" cause FWD = evil. Fail wheel drive.

lol thats what the tags r for

[B18c1Turboed]

This thread should be called, "how to make cars not suck" cause FWD = evil. Fail wheel drive.


You drive a 1987 RWD car. You should make a thread."HOW TOO AFFORD A NICER CAR"!

[Elbow]

This thread should be called, "how to make cars not suck" cause FWD = evil. Fail wheel drive.

Not getting in a FWD debate in this thread, BUT, FWD only sucks to those who have absolutely no driving talent whatsoever.

[roscoe]

i would like to hear y u think fwd sucks so bad

[Me86Rob]

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j90/highpsimr2/100_0026-2.jpg

[B18c1Turboed]

Not getting in a FWD debate in this thread, BUT, FWD only sucks to those who have absolutely no driving talent whatsoever.


And RWD are for idiots that cant drive. Case in point the 2 links as your signature!!!

[Me86Rob]

Not getting in a FWD debate in this thread, BUT, FWD only sucks to those who have absolutely no driving talent whatsoever.
no. it sucks because its not fun to drive.

[B18c1Turboed]

i would like to hear y u think fwd sucks so bad


After looking at his links,i know why...... REDNECKS DONT DRIVE FWD CARS. Its in their blood too drive RWD cars.

[Me86Rob]

http://i50.tinypic.com/zxs42c.jpg

[roscoe]

here we go lol

[Me86Rob]

http://i50.tinypic.com/16bc8di.jpg
http://i48.tinypic.com/2d8fh21.jpg

[Kamikaze]

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3390/3520980916_d870472809.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2745/4092654313_fe84f09112.jpg

[thegreatfnr]

How about the Vorsche :boobies:

http://www.badassdubs.com/o70.jpg

http://www.badassdubs.com/o66.jpg

[kfzemx3]

Mazda mx-3 with a nice 323 gtr swap... AWD woot.
yea yea yea small pics
http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/1/1633/401/4080200050_medium.jpg
http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/1/1633/401/4080200001_medium.jpg
http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/1/1633/401/4080200022_medium.jpg
http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/1/1633/401/4080200021_medium.jpg


And a RWD 13b Powered Mazda Mx-3 Unfortunately its ugly as balls

http://i.ebayimg.com/03/%21Bbns7BgBGk%7E$%28KGrHqYH-C4EquiQBtyRBKw4%215fBCg%7E%7E_3.JPG

http://i.ebayimg.com/12/%21Bbnt3BQ%212k%7E$%28KGrHqUH-EEEqvCFsKm6BKw4D+Fghg%7E%7E_3.JPG

http://i.ebayimg.com/09/%21BbntO2Q%212k%7E$%28KGrHqMH-DkEquDH4Y5mBKw4B8bI%21%21%7E%7E_3.JPG

http://i.ebayimg.com/04/%21BbnsfQg%212k%7E$%28KGrHqQH-CgEqszl1WnFBKw3+YlTpw%7E%7E_3.JPG

http://i.ebayimg.com/24/%21Bbnsozw%21Wk%7E$%28KGrHqYH-DoEqvDt2YC5BKw3+4yVMw%7E%7E_3.JPG

[Sol-Badguy]

Not getting in a FWD debate in this thread, BUT, FWD only sucks to those who have absolutely no driving talent whatsoever.
THIS

[87 Turbo II]

And RWD are for idiots that cant drive. Case in point the 2 links as your signature!!!

yeah, lack of FWD caused all 4 brakes to lock up....... Oh I am so glad you understand physics. Also it's a 198 and me not having enough money for something newer has nothing to do with FWD sucking balls, way to take the topic off hand because you know I'm right.

FWD is the worst sports platform by far, no argument is needed really.


After looking at his links,i know why...... REDNECKS DONT DRIVE FWD CARS. Its in their blood too drive RWD cars.

I don't know where you're getting redneck from, we both live in GA which is about as much a you have to go off of.


THIS

is false

FWD sucks

[kfzemx3]

RWD SUCKS
FWD SUCKS
AWD SUCKS

They all suck in specific categories. But honestly what sucks the most, are the dumb ass people who argue why cars suck.

[G.C]

RWD SUCKS
FWD SUCKS
AWD SUCKS

They all suck in specific categories. But honestly what sucks the most, are the dumb ass people who argue why cars suck.

x2. QFT.

[Sol-Badguy]

RWD SUCKS
FWD SUCKS
AWD SUCKS

They all suck in specific categories. But honestly what sucks the most, are the dumb ass people who argue why cars suck.
Let me reiterate.

*ho-hum*

THIS

[Nerdsrock22]

http://www.knfilters.com/images/press/daytona2.jpg

Lol.

[SLOWR/T]

AWD 350Z

[Sol-Badguy]

Lol.
:lmao:

[fivex684]

http://www.knfilters.com/images/press/daytona2.jpg

Lol.

You stole my idea...
http://i.a.cnn.net/nascar/2006/news/headlines/cup/06/17/toyota.cup.car/camry.384.jpg

[5speed]

Nice conversions here. FWD simply isnt that great. I pushed my old FWD to its limit and it can be lots of fun but when I want power I dont want FWD. RWD or AWD is so much better to corner with. You can charge into harder and leave it faster in most set ups. It's the hills that kill.

[kfzemx3]

Nice conversions here. FWD simply isnt that great. I pushed my old FWD to its limit and it can be lots of fun but when I want power I dont want FWD. RWD or AWD is so much better to corner with. You can charge into harder and leave it faster in most set ups. It's the hills that kill.




You see Prime example here. Here we see him state that FWD aren't that great. But if you were to check some of the past oh 2 years autocross times you'd notice that mini coopers generally had better times than most of the awd/rwd cars. Lots of turning and cornering in autocrossing...

Yet again it all depends on what your using the car for.

[5speed]

You see Prime example here. Here we see him state that FWD aren't that great. But if you were to check some of the past oh 2 years autocross times you'd notice that mini coopers generally had better times than most of the awd/rwd cars. Lots of turning and cornering in autocrossing...

Yet again it all depends on what your using the car for.
Like I said in most set ups. Over all they mostly aren't worth it.

[boosted_nonv]

nice thread

[Revmaynard]

Don't forget the Epic Tuning 400awhp Ef hatch. Using a RT4wd wagon 4wd and a z6t. :)

http://www.epictuning.com/_images/awd12.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qxtf3_IHTfs

[blackshine007]

2JZ makes everything better, especially in a probe
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDN6rxSoPWo&feature=related

turbo probe before converted to RWD
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qA8wAgZX8ww

turbo probe after
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1NEQeAfdSQ

[kfzemx3]

was wondering if that probe was gonna show up

[Kamikaze]

Shaun: :lmfao:@ your sig. GE ftw.

[Elbow]

Nice conversions here. FWD simply isnt that great. I pushed my old FWD to its limit and it can be lots of fun but when I want power I dont want FWD. RWD or AWD is so much better to corner with. You can charge into harder and leave it faster in most set ups. It's the hills that kill.

It's all the driver. I can drive a FWD just as fast as a RWD you just treat it differently. I don't think most RWD owners who haven't owned FWD understand that, or understand car setup. People who say FWD is stupid and sucks sound like complete morons. Go to an SCCA race, watch racing, see what's what. There are tons of FWD touring cars and RWD touring cars and they battle out not caring which is what drivetrain.

You can even make a FWD car oversteer worst then a RWD car.

It's the driver. :screwy:

[Sol-Badguy]

You can even make a FWD car oversteer worst then a RWD car.

It's the driver. :screwy:
That's what happened to my front end. :cry:

[kfzemx3]

front ends are overrated anyway lol

[Sunkenkarma]

http://mrec.rotary.net.nz/millen/rmrx7.jpg

AWD Rx-7

http://image.importtuner.com/f/industry-rumors/honda-element-d/1059221+w640+cr1+re0+ar1/0612-itblogs-01-honda-element-driftjpg.jpg

RWD Element

[speedminded]

no. it sucks because its not fun to drive.Obviously you've never driven a properly set up FWD. Everybody thought my Integra was RWD in the mountains because it was completely neutral and rotated perfectly into an oversteer...with stock sways and quality coil-over dampeners.

[speedminded]

Can't believe nobody has posted one of the greatest front to mid-engine conversions of all time...

MG Metro 6R4

Before:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bb/1989.mg.metro.arp.jpg/800px-1989.mg.metro.arp.jpg


After:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b9/MG_Metro_6R4_001.JPG

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/bf/MG_Metro_6R4_002.JPG

http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/uploads/cars/mg/560489.jpg

http://www.riminituning.it/img/bott/rally/bolidi/foto_max/metro_7max.jpg

http://www.ianhardy.net/gallery/main.php/d/72423-2/specsavers_rally_2007_0037.jpg

http://i.pbase.com/o4/15/651615/1/66679117.S8EkdcG2.IMG_206201.jpg



They ended up turning into a production car building 200 of them for homologation purposes to run Group B rally. Then another 20 with over 400hp. The same goes for the Renault R5 Turbo 2 and Peugeot 205 T16. Both were also FWD econoboxes converted to mid-engine for rally...then they produced 200 to make them legal.

[allout13]

mid engine rwd h22a4 integra

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v296/tsugsr/DSC01847.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v296/tsugsr/DSC01858.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v424/RaceCity_USA/Eibach%2007/DSC_2359.jpg

[kfzemx3]

more rotory powerd rwd mx-3s
http://mx-3.com/race/acosta-01.jpg
http://mx-3.com/race/acosta-02.jpg
http://mx-3.com/race/acosta-05.jpg
http://mx-3.com/race/acosta-12.jpg
http://mx-3.com/race/acosta-09.jpg
http://mx-3.com/race/acosta-10.jpg
http://mx-3.com/race/acosta-14.jpg
http://mx-3.com/race/acosta-16.jpg

[BABY J]

kool thread

[D3UC3S]

Someone post the pic of the Diablo...u will get reps

smart car with the Hyabusa engine:D

[allout13]

Someone post the pic of the Diablo...u will get reps

smart car with the Hyabusa engine:D

http://www.techepics.com/files/smart_vs_ferrari.jpg

http://onthesocialside.wordpress.com/2009/01/13/used-smart-car-meets-hayabusa/

[D3UC3S]

Hell yeah....the video is dope!

[Brian*]

Awesome idea* I like this thread*

[speedminded]

Mini Monte Carlo - K-series or Hayabusa

http://www.zcars.org.uk/montecarlo/index.htm

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_HgvHUHc3cRU/SiONxV9cDoI/AAAAAAAAB9s/xPL8sj0ngPQ/s1600-h/z-cars-mini-monte-carlo.jpg

http://www.miniregister.com/images/200601019.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/126/357478225_069ec086f3.jpg

[speedminded]

Honda 600 Drag Car

http://images.thetruthaboutcars.com/2009/10/htup_0804_05_z+norm_reeves_honda_show_meet+full_ca rbon_fiber_honda_600_drag_car_with_hoosier_slicks. jpg

http://japanesenostalgiccar.com/events/jccs2007/gallery/jccs2007=007.jpg

http://japanesenostalgiccar.com/events/jccs2007/gallery/jccs2007=005.jpg

http://japanesenostalgiccar.com/events/jccs2007/gallery/jccs2007=006.jpg

http://japanesenostalgiccar.com/events/jccs2007/gallery/jccs2007=009.jpg

http://japanesenostalgiccar.com/events/jccs2007/gallery/jccs2007=008.jpg

[BABY J]

http://s142.photobucket.com/albums/r84/DOHCschwab/Shadyside%20Dragway/?action=view&current=MOV01083.flv

[Drummerboy]

LS1 Prelude>*

http://www.mobilemag.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/image_31814_largeimagefile.jpg

[jmotley]

Obviously you've never driven a properly set up FWD. Everybody thought my Integra was RWD in the mountains because it was completely neutral and rotated perfectly into an oversteer...with stock sways and quality coil-over dampeners.

don't hate! dumbasses are people too! :goodjob:

[thegreatfnr]

Saab 9-3 Viggen Converted to AWD for the Pikes Peak Hillclimb

http://saablog.ru/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/saab-9_3-0307ec_760hp.jpg

[Elbow]

Cool thread but it's kind of dumb. Half of these weren't converted, they're tube frame....

[Jecht]

The FWD/RWD/AWD debate is stupid. Put it this way:

Say you have three cars of the same chassis and design, but each of them has a different drivetrain setup - fwd, rwd, and awd. If you were in neutral at speed and went into a corner, they would all have the same characteristics. Now with it actually in gear, you just have to change your driving style.

In the end it is simply preference.

[thegreatfnr]

http://www.techepics.com/files/smart_vs_ferrari.jpg

http://onthesocialside.wordpress.com/2009/01/13/used-smart-car-meets-hayabusa/

Another Busa swap in a lil car. MK1 Golf w/ a turbo hayabusa motor actually in the engine bay & RWD

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2007/05/hre_busagolf.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUH8S5wvK0M&feature=related

[BABY J]

Cool thread but it's kind of dumb. Half of these weren't converted, they're tube frame....

That's still a drive-train conversion dork.