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d16_turbo
12-01-2009, 05:21 PM
Im working a a 97 prelude at my house and i cant figure out why the vtak isnt working. There are no cel's. I already checked the groung to make sure it was good and it was, everything is plugged in right, i even pulled the solenoid off and cleaned the screen, but still no vtak, does anyone know what it might be???

punkr6
12-01-2009, 05:23 PM
Have you jumped the solenoid to see if its good ?

d16_turbo
12-01-2009, 05:25 PM
Have you jumped the solenoid to see if its good ?

negative, i have never done that before, which wires do i use

punkr6
12-01-2009, 05:32 PM
just touch a hot wire to the lead coming off the solenoid and see if it clicks.

d16_turbo
12-01-2009, 05:33 PM
ok thanks

punkr6
12-01-2009, 05:35 PM
1-make sure you have oil and good oil pressure
2-check all wires and make sure its hooked up right
3-make sure car is warmed up enough
4-make sure speed sensor is working
5-check coolant level

ect. ect. ect.

d16_turbo
12-01-2009, 05:40 PM
1-make sure you have oil and good oil pressure
2-check all wires and make sure its hooked up right
3-make sure car is warmed up enough
4-make sure speed sensor is working
5-check coolant level

ect. ect. ect.

yeah i check all the wiring , oil and made sure it was warmed up so hopefully i can get it fixed so i can get this thing out of my driveway lol

jcs
12-01-2009, 05:48 PM
i recommend the same GL on it though

jojeezek
12-01-2009, 05:49 PM
bump for good info

.:Stirfry:.
12-01-2009, 06:19 PM
is it stantons car?

Barefoot
12-01-2009, 06:29 PM
1-make sure you have oil and good oil pressure
2-check all wires and make sure its hooked up right
3-make sure car is warmed up enough
4-make sure speed sensor is working
5-check coolant level

ect. ect. ect.man smalls u sound like u been troubleshooting vtec issues since the 70's....


x2

d16_turbo
12-01-2009, 06:30 PM
is it stantons car?

jeff shaw, i was just replacing the valve cover gasket and fixing the vtec problem and i discovered that the timing belt was about to break so i replaced it too

punkr6
12-01-2009, 06:31 PM
man smalls u sound like u been troubleshooting vtec issues since the 70's....


x2

go eat some more fuck up smelly fruit fat boi....

d16_turbo
12-01-2009, 06:32 PM
man smalls u sound like u been troubleshooting vtec issues since the 70's....


x2


still no vtec, but ther solenoid is working

jcs
12-01-2009, 06:34 PM
hmmmmm

DarKStaR
12-01-2009, 06:34 PM
Has the head ever been off or disassembled?

punkr6
12-01-2009, 06:37 PM
Has the head ever been off or disassembled?

some history would help, what was done to it recently ?

.:Stirfry:.
12-01-2009, 06:41 PM
jeff shaw, i was just replacing the valve cover gasket and fixing the vtec problem and i discovered that the timing belt was about to break so i replaced it too

NO WAY.. lol.. im the one who put his new motor in after he broke the timming belt off the org. one, then the new motor i put in started to knock super bad, bc he didnt knoe how to break it in right. then after he got ANOTHER motor to replace the knockin one, i was supposed to assemble it and swap it back in. but long story short he didnt have all the shit for me to put the new motor back in so i walked away in the middle of doin it then he got someone else to do it. ..

d16_turbo
12-01-2009, 06:41 PM
some history would help, what was done to it recently ?

i just put a timing belt on it, but vtec hasnt worked for a while according to the owner, i am going to ask to see if he has done anything to it

DarKStaR
12-01-2009, 06:41 PM
Reason i ask is because jonathan(vtecace23) had this problem and he checked EVERYTHING and even replaced the oil pump. Come to find out the machine shop left out one of the rocker pins and it wouldnt let vtec lock in. Just a thought IF the head has been off or disassembled.

d16_turbo
12-01-2009, 06:43 PM
Reason i ask is because jonathan(vtecace23) had this problem and he checked EVERYTHING and even replaced the oil pump. Come to find out the machine shop left out one of the rocker pins and it wouldnt let vtec lock in. Just a thought IF the head has been off or disassembled.


thanks joey

DarKStaR
12-01-2009, 06:43 PM
no problem

d16_turbo
12-01-2009, 06:44 PM
there is an o-ring under the middle cam cap, if that is not in vtec will not work correct?

punkr6
12-01-2009, 06:46 PM
there is an o-ring under the middle cam cap, if that is not in vtec will not work correct?

not really, i've seen it work without it...

d16_turbo
12-01-2009, 06:48 PM
not really, i've seen it work without it...


oh ok, well i just found out that the motor was "rebuilt" a few months ago and vtec hasnt worked since he got his car back, he said they just put new bearings and oil pump on.

punkr6
12-01-2009, 06:50 PM
oh ok, well i just found out that the motor was "rebuilt" a few months ago and vtec hasnt worked since he got his car back, he said they just put new bearings and oil pump on.

sounds like you got set up. give it back....

d16_turbo
12-01-2009, 06:51 PM
sounds like you got set up. give it back....


its not my car, im getting paid to work on it

punkr6
12-01-2009, 06:57 PM
its not my car, im getting paid to work on it

i figured as much, still smells like a set up....

d16_turbo
12-01-2009, 07:03 PM
ok just got off the phone with the owner, he said he forgot to put the oil pick up on and started the car and let it run for a few minutes before he figured out he forgot to put the pickup on lol

punkr6
12-01-2009, 07:04 PM
ok just got off the phone with the owner, he said he forgot to put the oil pick up on and started the car and let it run for a few minutes before he figured out he forgot to put the pickup on lol

Oh snap....:lmfao:

.:Stirfry:.
12-01-2009, 07:11 PM
damn

d16_turbo
12-01-2009, 07:11 PM
Oh snap....:lmfao:

hahaha

DarKStaR
12-01-2009, 07:19 PM
and he rought it to you like that..?

d16_turbo
12-01-2009, 07:20 PM
and he rought it to you like that..?


the pickup is on now, but when he first started it after the rebuild, there wasnt a pickup on it

98blackcivic
12-02-2009, 12:51 AM
take the fartcannon off..
idk maybe sometimes i feel that the exhaust note is so loud you cant hear the cross over
h22's vtec crossover is not as voluptuous in sound value as a B series motor is
correct me if im wrong

Austin?
12-02-2009, 11:29 AM
tell the truth;;;;;

have you been running without oils???

back in the days when my gsr was leaking oil and i never even check....
i hit v-tec and the f-ing engine turned off. (death to the v-tex)


agian.. did you run wit no oil??

scttydb411
12-02-2009, 11:40 AM
i was going to tell you to check pressure at the orifice in the head and to also make sure the correct pickup is in and not too close to the pan (cavitation will occur and prevent pressure=no vtec). no pickup is even worse. i don't think there is enough oil level in the pan to feed oil w/o the pickup if i'm not mistaken.

jew_boy
12-02-2009, 11:53 AM
i know this is kinda ghetto, but you said you jumped the solenoid. and it worked. so take the hot wire and run it to the horn and test it then. if it worked when you jumped it will work when you hit the horn. then you will be able to determine if vtec even engaged properly. just a suggestion. also if you got a manual oil pressure gauge run it to the head to see if the head is getting enought pressure to eliminate the oil pump and oil pickup.

d16_turbo
12-02-2009, 12:14 PM
i don't think there is enough oil level in the pan to feed oil w/o the pickup if i'm not mistaken.

yeah i dont think there is