Turbo Build !!!

[ej1boy95]

So as most of yall know I am boosting my ride. This is my first turbo'd car so Im very excited. Well Ive decided to make a build thread to keep yall updated and show yall where Im at. I hope yall enjoy !

So far Ive got the manifold and boost controller l
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http://i615.photobucket.com/albums/tt235/ej1boy95/1130091738.jpg

ive got some more stuff coming in this week. i should have some stuff in tomorrow.

[14thecount]

how much did that turbo manifoild cost?

[ej1boy95]

how much did that turbo manifoild cost?

$ 95 on ebay

[ej1boy95]

just got my Walbro 255 fuel pump in the mail :)

http://i615.photobucket.com/albums/tt235/ej1boy95/1130091831.jpg

[getherdone]

great start so far keep it up

[ej1boy95]

great start so far keep it up

thanks man

[CaTcH22]

Let us know if you need help. You have a ways to go, but are gettin to a good start.

[Drummerboy]

same manifold design i've got. I've heard negative stuff about it since the WG is only coming off one side, instead of the middle. Of couse, I've never noticed it though since Its the only manifold i've had. I'm looking at Spoolin Performance's sbFab manifold though, I'll let you know if theres a big difference.

[jhadleyh]

same manifold design i've got. I've heard negative stuff about it since the WG is only coming off one side, instead of the middle. Of couse, I've never noticed it though since Its the only manifold i've had. I'm looking at Spoolin Performance's sbFab manifold though, I'll let you know if theres a big difference.


I had spoolin performance's log mani on a d16 and it was the fucking bomb.

[ej1boy95]

Let us know if you need help. You have a ways to go, but are gettin to a good start.

thanks. i already have everything ordered just waiting on it to get here

[ej1boy95]

same manifold design i've got. I've heard negative stuff about it since the WG is only coming off one side, instead of the middle. Of couse, I've never noticed it though since Its the only manifold i've had. I'm looking at Spoolin Performance's sbFab manifold though, I'll let you know if theres a big difference.

so what is the negative effects of this manifold, since the WG flange is on one exhaust port. does it cause any problems ?

[Drummerboy]

I forget what the main arguement is. Something about it not being equal on all ports, so when the WG opens, its not as efficient of exiting exhaust as other manifolds. But dont quote me.

And btw, I looked, the manifold im looking at is the SPFab, not SB.

[ej1boy95]

I forget what the main arguement is. Something about it not being equal on all ports, so when the WG opens, its not as efficient of exiting exhaust as other manifolds. But dont quote me.

And btw, I looked, the manifold im looking at is the SPFab, not SB.

ok well thanks for the info. i think im gonna stick with this manifold cause im out of money. LOL

[patrick4588]

basically only one runner on the manifold is utilized with that wastegate placement. you want the wastegate to be centered. might cause some boost creep. if you are running low boost, you might not notice it though. gl

[hondalover00]

yes on honda-tech they have a thread about that style mani causing boost creep....ill try to find it

[ej1boy95]

yes on honda-tech they have a thread about that style mani causing boost creep....ill try to find it

ok thanks

[cm7k24]

when i was deciding on which manifold to get that was the one they said stay away from if you run external wg. just because its only getting from 1 port instead of mutilple,

but keep this thread coming i wanna see the out come

[ej1boy95]

when i was deciding on which manifold to get that was the one they said stay away from if you run external wg. just because its only getting from 1 port instead of mutilple,

but keep this thread coming i wanna see the out come

i think i will be find with the manifold. my cousin was running 20 pounds on a Y8 with the same manifold and wastegate i ordered and he had no problems. but i will keep yall updated !

[patrick4588]

what wastegate did you get? you arent getting a bunch of ebay parts are you? if so, this build will bring more headaches than you want.

[dallasb84]

you will have no problems with the manifold..... one of the best cast manifolds made for the b series was a "drag" brand that your manifold is knocked off of. if that makes any sense. lol

good luck\



i got a tip for you


get some siemens deka high impedence injectors.... they are CHEAP and dont need resistor boxes..... plus.....THEY ARE CHEAP.

i got them for 40 bux a pop for 60lb 660s

[ej1boy95]

what wastegate did you get? you arent getting a bunch of ebay parts are you? if so, this build will bring more headaches than you want.

yes i am ordering off of ebay. LOL i know ive heard of things from ebay but ive also heard good things. so idk we'll see

[ej1boy95]

you will have no problems with the manifold..... one of the best cast manifolds made for the b series was a "drag" brand that your manifold is knocked off of. if that makes any sense. lol

good luck\



i got a tip for you


get some siemens deka high impedence injectors.... they are CHEAP and dont need resistor boxes..... plus.....THEY ARE CHEAP.

i got them for 40 bux a pop for 60lb 660s

man i wish u would of told me this earlier. i already ordered the black top DSM 450cc injectors

[ej1boy95]

so as promised i have more pictures. when i got home from school today i had this at my door :)

dog wanted in the pic.
http://i615.photobucket.com/albums/tt235/ej1boy95/1201091648a.jpg

http://i615.photobucket.com/albums/tt235/ej1boy95/1201091654.jpg

[jcs]

GL man hope it all gets together

[punkr6]

bump for another sohc turbo build and fellow dog lover...reps

[CaTcH22]

I wouldnt get a wastegate off ebay. You may have luck with anything else, but I have had 2 go bad. They burn out the push rod and the tube warps. Then it sticks open.

[punkr6]

I wouldnt get a wastegate off ebay. You may have luck with anything else, but I have had 2 go bad. They burn out the push rod and the tube warps. Then it sticks open.

x2, either run an internally gated turbo, or buy a quality gate...

[jcs]

x2409852 tial could be your friend

[Drummerboy]

Agreed. Im running a Ebay BOV but I've got a Turbonetics Evolution Wastegate.

[ej1boy95]

i oredered a Godspeed wastegate. any good luck with them ?

[ej1boy95]

also what do i do about welding the piping and the bov flange since there both aluminum. if yall have any good ideas let me know. cause i know its hard to weld aluminum.

[oleblue]

What turbo are you going with?

[dallasb84]

take the flange and the piping to a welding shop..... should be cheap.

look for a sheetmetal welding place as welding thin aluminum is a whole different science than welding thick materials.... im a certified tig welder and ive seen many people that weld heavy aluminum burn up sheetmetal jobs......

[tdurr]

take the flange and the piping to a welding shop..... should be cheap.

look for a sheetmetal welding place as welding thin aluminum is a whole different science than welding thick materials.... im a certified tig welder and ive seen many people that weld heavy aluminum burn up sheetmetal jobs......

good info. Welding thin aluminum is a skill that takes a min to get use too. im okay at it..

but get a brand name WG, and u can get a ebay bov. I got a HKS ssqv knockoff and it works great.

[RandomGuy]

how much power are you planning on making initially?

[ej1boy95]

good info. Welding thin aluminum is a skill that takes a min to get use too. im okay at it..

but get a brand name WG, and u can get a ebay bov. I got a HKS ssqv knockoff and it works great.

my cousin found a welder that canweld aluminum,soim going to take it to him

[ej1boy95]

how much power are you planning on making initially?

around 200 or a little more

[ej1boy95]

well guys i got some new things in today.

.50 A/R

http://i615.photobucket.com/albums/tt235/ej1boy95/1202091821.jpg

http://i615.photobucket.com/albums/tt235/ej1boy95/1202091823.jpg

the injectors came in also. the guy said they are 450cc but in says 530 on the side

http://i615.photobucket.com/albums/tt235/ej1boy95/1202092049.jpg

now im just waiting on the slim fan and the wastegate and ill be set :)

[D3UC3S]

I hope it works out. Like JJspec says...cheap, fast, reliable...you can only have 2.

[xdavidscenex]

looks good for a first turbo build you will learn alot

[dallasb84]

oil drain kit, ecu, and down pipe

[dallasb84]

dont forget oil restricter

[SPOOLIN]

ebay turbo makers will do anything to copy the major manufacturers lol nice anti surge inlet.

[14thecount]

this is somthing like the manifoild i am geting, the kit i am wanting to build is alomost the sam kind of manifoild, with a percision sc60 turbo, and cx intercooler with there ic piping, tial 38mm waste gate, hks ssq, hondata s200/s300 550cc rc injectors, walboro 255 fuel pump, a mild port and polish on the head, ometic head gasket, jg intake manifoild, and eagle fuel rail, with a fuel regulator. that set up would be a great one maybe 300hp but i have ls integra so idk!

[ej1boy95]

looks good for a first turbo build you will learn alot

Yea thanks. I've already learned a lot

[ej1boy95]

oil drain kit, ecu, and down pipe
Yea I'm only posting pics of the items I have coming in. I'm going to buy the feed and return lines here in town. I'm also going to make my own down pipe. And I'm just going to get a street tune on chrome.

[just a honda]

well cant wait to see it turbo. u got a nice car and ur not the one to be out racing. i have never seen him race anyone. but with this u will have a clean car and u will love the way ur car sounds turbo.

[Axix23]

nice

[ej1boy95]

well cant wait to see it turbo. u got a nice car and ur not the one to be out racing. i have never seen him race anyone. but with this u will have a clean car and u will love the way ur car sounds turbo.

lol. do i know you, cause i can see you know me.

[ej1boy95]

got the rest of my stuff in today :)

Godspeed 38mm wastegate

http://i615.photobucket.com/albums/tt235/ej1boy95/1203091808.jpg

Slim fan !

http://i615.photobucket.com/albums/tt235/ej1boy95/1203091809.jpg

[CaTcH22]

Gospeed makes good performance parts. They have a manually adjustable wastegate too. I think its a 44mm. :thinking: Keep up the good work.........:goodjob:

[ej1boy95]

Gospeed makes good performance parts. They have a manually adjustable wastegate too. I think its a 44mm. :thinking: Keep up the good work.........:goodjob:

yea they do. thanks !

[dallasb84]

if your going to make your own downpipe...... i got a suggestion..... go on ebay and search "2.5 steel bends" theres a online dealer i can reefer you to by pm. they got mandrel bends for cheap. i made mine for about 45 bux including flange, o2, and mendrel bends..... its very nice if i say so. i made it outa a j bend that came with 12" straight. a 180, and a 45.

i split the 180 for my two 90s and 45 to get a nice shot straight down......

[ej1boy95]

if your going to make your own downpipe...... i got a suggestion..... go on ebay and search "2.5 steel bends" theres a online dealer i can reefer you to by pm. they got mandrel bends for cheap. i made mine for about 45 bux including flange, o2, and mendrel bends..... its very nice if i say so. i made it outa a j bend that came with 12" straight. a 180, and a 45.

i split the 180 for my two 90s and 45 to get a nice shot straight down......

could you please tell me the dealer

[tdurr]

lulz.. ur not buyin drugs are you?

[ej1boy95]

lulz.. ur not buyin drugs are you?

maybe ? lol

[kain]

that wastegate placement is horrible. waste gate should be at the central area of the most pressure for all the runners combined. just a waste gate on one runner wont suffice.

[dallasb84]

that wastegate placement is horrible. waste gate should be at the central area of the most pressure for all the runners combined. just a waste gate on one runner wont suffice.

:blah:


youll be fine your not building the star trek enterprise

[kain]

:blah:


youll be fine your not building the star trek enterprise


sure

[chrisdohck]

the injectors came in also. the guy said they are 450cc but in says 530 on the side

http://i615.photobucket.com/albums/tt235/ej1boy95/1202092049.jpg

now im just waiting on the slim fan and the wastegate and ill be set :)[/quote]



yea boost is going to be a nice upgrade... but on those injectors do u know wat they came out of bc they look like the rx7 injectors i use on my set up but they range in size they have 440, 450 ,530 ,and 550cc i think someone correct me if im wrong but u should find out and make sure b4 u get it etheir tuned or just getting a base map just my :2cents: have fun with ur setup looking forward to the pics of wen its all done

[dallasb84]

looks like hondas to me cuz of the rubber grommet on the titty...... but they have ev1 connectors and they will not plug into the obd2 harness..... you need to order pigtails.. ev1 pigtails on ebay..... 24 bux and prolly a resistor box as well

[dallasb84]

your base map needs to be configured for the injector type and size so it will run

[RandomGuy]

dude, if you're planning on making ~200ish don't use that turbo!!! (well, like that at least)

it looks like one of those ebay t04e's with the .63a/r turbine... On the brown side of the turbo what is the a/r? If its .63 then its one of those really spaced out turbine fins. Looks like a damn stage 3... any how its good if you're trying to make a lot of power, but for the 200hp range it slows you down.

you'll be much happier with a smaller t3 (maybe off of an old saab or volvo/etc) get one used for like 100 bucks.... You can still use that giant front side with the anti surge housing, but put the turbine side of the turbo from the saab on, get the shaft for that balanced with the compressor wheel on the ebay turbo at turbo diesel injection i think in forest park

put that bitch together, all you'll need is some c-ring pliers and a 1/2" solid wrench and half a brain, line the shit up and for the 200hp range it'd be so much funner to drive boost will hit super quick. We did this on a friends d-series and it screamed.

all in all the project will cost you about 200 bux, but it will be wellll worth it.

when you're ready to make power more pop the other tubine on (although ebay turbines aren't the best)...

[Civictyper95]

looking good man. When i first started, ran into a couple of problems but in the end its all worth it :goodjob:

[ej1boy95]

:blah:


youll be fine your not building the star trek enterprise

LMAO !

[ej1boy95]

the injectors came in also. the guy said they are 450cc but in says 530 on the side

http://i615.photobucket.com/albums/tt235/ej1boy95/1202092049.jpg

now im just waiting on the slim fan and the wastegate and ill be set :)



yea boost is going to be a nice upgrade... but on those injectors do u know wat they came out of bc they look like the rx7 injectors i use on my set up but they range in size they have 440, 450 ,530 ,and 550cc i think someone correct me if im wrong but u should find out and make sure b4 u get it etheir tuned or just getting a base map just my :2cents: have fun with ur setup looking forward to the pics of wen its all done[/quote]

im not sure what they came out of. the guy i got it from said it will fit hondas acuras eclipes. so i have no clue. LOL

[ej1boy95]

well i almost have everything together. the last little bit i need is the risistor box, 2 bar map sensor, feed/return oil kit, down pipe flange and i think that is it. if yall have or know anyone that has any of these for sale besides the resistor box. please let me know.

[tdurr]

^^ i got a spare resistor box from a 88 accord if u want, or just hit up a jy, and stash one in a tool bag haha.

[D3UC3S]

^^ i got a spare resistor box from a 88 accord if u want, or just hit up a jy, and stash one in a tool bag haha.


i love doin that!

[dallasb84]

search motorola map sensor on ebay..... scotty at mainstream is using one.... its prolly gonna end up on my setup.... they are 24 bucks


your gonna need to order the fittings for the turbo drain ..... you can use fuel injection hose for the oil feed 1.49 a foot at pepboys and a banjo fitting to fit the line......

the fuel banjo fitting that goes into the fuel rail or on top of the fuel filter fits inside my feed port on my turbo FYI.

i have a tapped b series oil pan.... for sale.

and some stainless drain line left over...

[ej1boy95]

search motorola map sensor on ebay..... scotty at mainstream is using one.... its prolly gonna end up on my setup.... they are 24 bucks


your gonna need to order the fittings for the turbo drain ..... you can use fuel injection hose for the oil feed 1.49 a foot at pepboys and a banjo fitting to fit the line......

the fuel banjo fitting that goes into the fuel rail or on top of the fuel filter fits inside my feed port on my turbo FYI.

i have a tapped b series oil pan.... for sale.

and some stainless drain line left over...

im just going to go to a parker store here in town and get everything for the feed and return lines and fittings

[Master Shake]

pm ash7....he'll know what to dodude, you have got to fucking stop posting that same fucking line over and over again. this is the 5th fucking thread i've came into to see whats up and you have posted that same shit. WTF man.



on the other note...


OP, what kind of kit are you using? or piecing one together? cause that looks like a ebay turbo. if it is, don't look forward to it holding up for long.

[ej1boy95]

dude, you have got to fucking stop posting that same fucking line over and over again. this is the 5th fucking thread i've came into to see whats up and you have posted that same shit. WTF man.




on the other note...


OP, what kind of kit are you using? or piecing one together? cause that looks like a ebay turbo. if it is, don't look forward to it holding up for long.

yea its an ebay turbo. :dunno:
OP, does anyone know where i can get the fee and return oil lines and fittings cheap. well not cheap but for a good price

[tdurr]

Feed not fee, but summit racing will do the job. Just gotta know what the sizes you need are.

[ej1boy95]

i meant feed.lol but thanks

[tdurr]

lol i kno, just givin u hard time

[ej1boy95]

lol i kno, just givin u hard time

man im already having a hard enough time trying to get this turbo together. lol

[dallasb84]

dude i told you what to order and get.... if you wanna try n get stuff around town....

get a fuel rail banjo fitting.....and splice some fuel injector line to a nipple, get a tee for the oil pressure sensor.....

order a turbo drain fitting.... screw in a big ass nipple..... and run it to the oil pan....

i got a tapped b series oil pan....

done


other wise order a 40 dollor kit off ebay

[ej1boy95]

dude i told you what to order and get.... if you wanna try n get stuff around town....

get a fuel rail banjo fitting.....and splice some fuel injector line to a nipple, get a tee for the oil pressure sensor.....

order a turbo drain fitting.... screw in a big ass nipple..... and run it to the oil pan....

i got a tapped b series oil pan....

done


other wise order a 40 dollor kit off ebay

thanks for the help man. im prolly gonna do that

[dallasb84]

also u will need to make a restrictor....... get a nipple/nipple that fits inside the oil line. crush one end flat and put it inside the engine side of your oil feed line. basically before your fuel line banjo fitting to fuel injection hose splice. your splice connector will hold the "restrictor" in place.

if you dont do this you will blow oil into your exhaust housing inside your turbo.......


ebay turbo flaw

[ej1boy95]

where can i get this all at ?

[egpower904]

i know its twice as much, but i ordered the blox cast mani a few days ago, when i saw it vs ebay i thought it made more sense for wg to be centered.

http://jhpusa.com/store/pc/viewPrd.asp?idcategory=333&idproduct=612

[dallasb84]

where can i get this all at ?

i got all my fittings from pepboys.

lowes and home depot kinda suck

[ej1boy95]

well i got the rest of the money today to order all the rest off the stuff i need. so tomorrow im going to order the stuff when i get home :)

[tdurr]

pics of all the parts laying on the ground once ur done.

[marcos713]

pics of all the parts laying on the ground once ur done.

x2!

[ej1boy95]

x2!

ight buddy, ill do that for ya ! i just order the downpipe flange, oil feed lines and fitting, and the oil return flange. so i should be getting them towards the end of the week. now i just need to figure out which map sensor to use, buy that then ill be ready to put it on :)

[hondalover00]

ight buddy, ill do that for ya ! i just order the downpipe flange, oil feed lines and fitting, and the oil return flange. so i should be getting them towards the end of the week. now i just need to figure out which map sensor to use, buy that then ill be ready to put it on :)



how many psi you gonna run.....if more then 11 i would use the gm 3 bar....only like 50 on honda-tech.....dont forget the pigtail

[ej1boy95]

how many psi you gonna run.....if more then 11 i would use the gm 3 bar....only like 50 on honda-tech.....dont forget the pigtail

im gonna run 8-10 psi.

[.:Stirfry:.]

lookin good homie

[ej1boy95]

lookin good homie

thanks bro !

[hondalover00]

im gonna run 8-10 psi.

HONDA-TECH.COM

(atmospheric - boost)
.75 bar = 10.8778303psi
Due to limitations of the sensor element (http://www.honda-tech.com/showthread.php?p=40709312#), tb-mounted units can't read well above 10.5psi, and old firewall units above 10.2psi. In other words, running above 10psi gives you zero safety (http://www.honda-tech.com/showthread.php?p=40709312#) net for overboost.

[xdavidscenex]

coming along good!

[dallasb84]

8 to 10 wiil be fine with factory map.... but for 25 bux you can go with the 2.5 motorolla and when you get tuned your boost can go to round 19 psi

[Got Milk?]

this shit still not done?

[ej1boy95]

this shit still not done?

nope still not. lol its almost done though. imma try to get it done while im out of school for christmas break

[ej1boy95]

8 to 10 wiil be fine with factory map.... but for 25 bux you can go with the 2.5 motorolla and when you get tuned your boost can go to round 19 psi

i thought if u run any kind of boost you had to get a diff. map sensor. cause if the map sensor reads boost it will set off the check engine light, or something like that. not really sure why u had to change it.

[ej1boy95]

HONDA-TECH.COM

(atmospheric - boost)
.75 bar = 10.8778303psi
Due to limitations of the sensor element (http://www.honda-tech.com/showthread.php?p=40709312#), tb-mounted units can't read well above 10.5psi, and old firewall units above 10.2psi. In other words, running above 10psi gives you zero safety (http://www.honda-tech.com/showthread.php?p=40709312#) net for overboost.

i didnt understand anything u just said. lol

[Romeo]

i didnt understand anything u just said. lol
Basically, don't run anything over 10psi with stock MAP sensor. :goodjob:

[dallasb84]

i thought if u run any kind of boost you had to get a diff. map sensor. cause if the map sensor reads boost it will set off the check engine light, or something like that. not really sure why u had to change it.


with no tune you will throw a code if the map senses boost.....


if you have a chipped ecu with a basemap there will be no code....

once you get it tuned you can run around 10 psi with the factory map

i suggest getting an upgraded map. who knows what youur future may hold..... you might fall in love with boost and do a bigger build and hell youll already have ecu and sensor wise the necessary harware to support more power. i overlooked the map and wel..... its about a 500 dollor mistake.... since i have to get a whole new tune.... rather than just a small touch up...

the motorolla map is 25 bux and can support 19psi iirc so its more a investment than anything else in your case....

[ej1boy95]

with no tune you will throw a code if the map senses boost.....


if you have a chipped ecu with a basemap there will be no code....

once you get it tuned you can run around 10 psi with the factory map

i suggest getting an upgraded map. who knows what youur future may hold..... you might fall in love with boost and do a bigger build and hell youll already have ecu and sensor wise the necessary harware to support more power. i overlooked the map and wel..... its about a 500 dollor mistake.... since i have to get a whole new tune.... rather than just a small touch up...

the motorolla map is 25 bux and can support 19psi iirc so its more a investment than anything else in your case....

thanks for your input. i might just try the motorolla one. but i was doing some read up on them and it said something that they are not direct fit to the OEM map sensor.

[chrisdohck]

yea most of them are not the same as the oem but will work fine i have a gm 2bar map sensor only thing is i had to just run a vac line to it and wire it to my stock map sensor wires
thanks for your input. i might just try the motorolla one. but i was doing some read up on them and it said something that they are not direct fit to the OEM map sensor.

[ej1boy95]

yea most of them are not the same as the oem but will work fine i have a gm 2bar map sensor only thing is i had to just run a vac line to it and wire it to my stock map sensor wires

well my cousin talked to scotty at mainstream and he said that my stock map sensor will be fine with the amount of boost im running.

[ej1boy95]

well i just found out i have to order one more thing. the sandwhich plate. thought i had one. so that is the absolute last thing. LOL

[tdurr]

plate for wut?

[ej1boy95]

plate for wut?

for the oil. u know the one that goes inbetween the block and oil filter.

[tdurr]

ohh okay. going the fancy way. I just ran my oil feed from the stock oil pressure sensor gauge.

[dallasb84]

oil pressure sensor ftw....


i had scotty do my tune..... but i highly recommend spending the money for the map man. you will thank me later

[ej1boy95]

oil pressure sensor ftw....


i had scotty do my tune..... but i highly recommend spending the money for the map man. you will thank me later

thanks but im gonna trust what scotty says and just run the stock map sensor. if i have any trouble then ill just get a diff. one

[ej1boy95]

ohh okay. going the fancy way. I just ran my oil feed from the stock oil pressure sensor gauge.

ive never heard of running it off the oil pressure sensor. thats new to me. how well does it work, and feed the oil ?

[hondalover00]

ohh okay. going the fancy way. I just ran my oil feed from the stock oil pressure sensor gauge.


these can nreak off in the block....where as the sandwich plate will not and you will also have other ports for oil pressure guage and...temp guage.........golden eagle sandwich plate FTW!!!

[SPOOLIN]

ive never heard of running it off the oil pressure sensor. thats new to me. how well does it work, and feed the oil ?

this is the most widely used way to do it if you dont have a sandwich plate. It works just fine. I run mine off a sandwich plate for the filter and removed the factory oil pressure sending unit and screwed in my aftermarket oil pressure gauge to that.

[jdm>usdm]

Yep, nothing wrong with running the oil feed from the oil pressure sensor.


Was able to find the fittings I needed from Advance Auto.

[scttydb411]

thanks but im gonna trust what scotty says and just run the stock map sensor. if i have any trouble then ill just get a diff. one

it won't hurt to get the larger mapsensor, however since you're stock and if you were going to really up the boost beyond 11ish then you would probably be running a built motor at that point which would more than likely not be the same compression as stock anyway. however, either way is fine.

for dallas, since his motor is already built the larger mapsensor would really help since it'll be good to go for 15+psi already.

i run my oil feed out of the stock press sensor area. bspt-npt nipple, to feed line, to t mounted on the firewall (no stress at all on block and same fitting/line for 6.5yrs). stock pressure sensor is relocated to the t on firewall. sandwich plate is fine too.

bspt-npt fitting can be had @ summit and a lot of auto parts stores.

[ej1boy95]

it won't hurt to get the larger mapsensor, however since you're stock and if you were going to really up the boost beyond 11ish then you would probably be running a built motor at that point which would more than likely not be the same compression as stock anyway. however, either way is fine.

for dallas, since his motor is already built the larger mapsensor would really help since it'll be good to go for 15+psi already.

i run my oil feed out of the stock press sensor area. bspt-npt nipple, to feed line, to t mounted on the firewall (no stress at all on block and same fitting/line for 6.5yrs). stock pressure sensor is relocated to the t on firewall. sandwich plate is fine too.

bspt-npt fitting can be had @ summit and a lot of auto parts stores.

thanks for the input. very helpful

[ej1boy95]

thanks everyone. ive ordered the sandwich plate today. so now im just waiting on that the feed line and fittings, and the oil drain flange.

[tdurr]

sounds good man!! Hope to see this thing move out soon!

[D3UC3S]

Glad your getting this together.

Im still pissed about the S/C bein switched:D

[ej1boy95]

Glad your getting this together.

Im still pissed about the S/C bein switched:D

lol. sorry man

[ej1boy95]

im thinking of just running open downpipe. what do u guys think ? i really love the sound of the turbo spooling. but is there any disadvantages of this ?

[tdurr]

im thinking of just running open downpipe. what do u guys think ? i really love the sound of the turbo spooling. but is there any disadvantages of this ?


everyone asking if ur car is boosted lol.

[dallasb84]

and it sounds like shit

[tdurr]

^^ ur dumb. not 1 person who has heard my car said such. only that its loud.

[dallasb84]

whateve

[dallasb84]

yours might be louder


but i bet mines faster.... lol

[tdurr]

lol. if u say so.

[ej1boy95]

looks like we have a race !

[dallasb84]

hey im down..... i win you gotta keep your exhaust ... he wins open downpipe... lol

[dallasb84]

btw im in marietta too

[ej1boy95]

hmmm idk. if u say your car is fast then go slow

[scttydb411]

if you want to run open downpipe, make sure you have at least 18-24" of pipe after the o2 bung so it doesn't get contaminated afr readings.

[dallasb84]

sounds like you wanna open dp.... thats ghey.

[ej1boy95]

if you want to run open downpipe, make sure you have at least 18-24" of pipe after the o2 bung so it doesn't get contaminated afr readings.

ok so after the O2 bung have 18-24" of pipe ? and how far should the O2 bung be from the turbo ?

[ej1boy95]

sounds like you wanna open dp.... thats ghey.

if you say so

[SPOOLIN]

DP might be painful, i suggest 1 on 1 at first!!

[ej1boy95]

DP might be painful, i suggest 1 on 1 at first!!

what do u mean painful ?

[scttydb411]

ok so after the O2 bung have 18-24" of pipe ? and how far should the O2 bung be from the turbo ?

some stock ones put the o2 right @ the turbo, but the pressure can damage the o2 and give slightly erroneous readings. i suggest anywhere 12" after the turbo at the closest. the more common is towards the end of the downpipe underneath the axle area, but if you do that you'll need a bolt on extension if you want to run open dp.

[ej1boy95]

some stock ones put the o2 right @ the turbo, but the pressure can damage the o2 and give slightly erroneous readings. i suggest anywhere 12" after the turbo at the closest. the more common is towards the end of the downpipe underneath the axle area, but if you do that you'll need a bolt on extension if you want to run open dp.

ok thanks im prolly gonna do it right at the axle

[tdurr]

hey im down..... i win you gotta keep your exhaust ... he wins open downpipe... lol
i mean... i wont be back there till the 8th sooo if u really wanna wait :rolleyes:


if you want to run open downpipe, make sure you have at least 18-24" of pipe after the o2 bung so it doesn't get contaminated afr readings.
wish someone told me this before i made my set up lol

[scttydb411]

wish someone told me this before i made my set up lol

you can just do a bolt on extension for the tuning and remove it if you want to stay open dp. we've had to do that on some cars that come in, but we don't always have the perfect extension on hand without having to make/modify one.

[tdurr]

you can just do a bolt on extension for the tuning and remove it if you want to stay open dp. we've had to do that on some cars that come in, but we don't always have the perfect extension on hand without having to make/modify one.

lol i'd have to weld a flange to the pipe then.. its just a turndown atm...

[ej1boy95]

hey guys.
sorry its been taking so long to get this together. but tomorrow im going to start putting it on. i have everything i need. i went and got the bov flange welded to the intercooler piping so im all set. i will take some pics. while installing everything. so i can let yall know how smooth it goes.

[tdurr]

still wating on pics :goodjob:

[ej1boy95]

alright well ive got the turbo FINALLY on. It has taken me 6 days and these were the worst 6 days ever. It was a pain in my ass but i made it happen. I prolly would of finished a lot earlier if i didnt have a bunch of littleproblems. Anyways I got it on and it runs great. Sorry it has taken so long for me to reply back. Ive been getting up at like 10 and getting home at 12. So i havent really had any time, but I will get some pics. up soon. I dont really have that many, sosorry for that.

[tdurr]

its all good man. It took me 4 straight 12+ hours days to get my kit on my car. the first two days i stayed awake under my car for over 30hours.... ask Roche lol

[ej1boy95]

its all good man. It took me 4 straight 12+ hours days to get my kit on my car. the first two days i stayed awake under my car for over 30hours.... ask Roche lol

yea i am soooooooo happy to finally be done with mine. at one point i wanted to give up, but i stayed strong. lol but for some reason i dont think the bov is working right. it opens when i let off the throttle but it dont sound like it should. i have an HKS SSQV, but mine is really quiet compared to my friends.

[CaTcH22]

Each setup may have a slightly different sound... but as long as it works it ok. Pics, or you dont have a boosted car. :ninja:

[ej1boy95]

ok. well tomorrow i will have some pics. so yall will believe me. :)

[tdurr]

play with the screw on the back of the bov. that adjust the "loudness" if u will of the bov. do u have the instructions?

[ej1boy95]

play with the screw on the back of the bov. that adjust the "loudness" if u will of the bov. do u have the instructions?

no i dont have the instructions. but i have the newer style bov. so theres no screw on back

[tdurr]

um.. check the website then. should be something on there

[jdm>usdm]

In for pics!!!

[dallasb84]

i got the same one....

im betting you got a vac problem....... mines pretty loud

[ej1boy95]

well today i drove my car for a good bit. but when i got close to the house it started to smoke and i smelt oil burning.i said to myself no fucking way ! well i pulled under my carport smoke was still coming from under hood. so i got out and checked under the hood, and guess what, there was oil EVERYWHERE ! it was on the mani, turbo, piping almost any thing under the hood had oil on it. so i look under the car and theres was about a quart of oil laying on the concrete. right beside the downpipe. so im guessing the turbos seals are gone and oil shot out the downpipe. if that is the case im selling everything, because im tired of dealing with this turbo. my car is a daily driver so i cant keep messing with it and not having anything to drive. so if anyone wants some 4 day old turbo stuff, im selling it. hola at me if your interested !

[D3UC3S]

we all told you to be careful of that ebay stuff


Shoulda left the S/C on....it was a perfect car

[dallasb84]

whoa whoa whoa..... befor jumping to conclusions you need to do a thourough pre flight check list.....

or have someone look at it and check everything out. this is your first time and you prolly made a bunch of mistakes that you need to fix......


i dont understand how you can blow the seals like that.....

theres a few thing you could have fucked up.......

first is your drain line.... second is not having a restrictor.... third oil drain location.....
is your evac hooked up right.... did you burn up your feed line...

a seal like that should not blow....... period... even on a ebay.... ive bought quite a few of em

[dallasb84]

take some pic asap....

close ups of the engine bay.... and more importantly underside of your hood......

pics of your vacum lines.... basically post up some pics of each item you installed and well go from there and save this build.....

youve put too much into this for failure.....


i have a full ebay kit working just fine on my car and i drive it everyday. and so far 3 trips to va and back........


well get it right.


now post some pics.... do it now

[tdurr]

take some pic asap....

close ups of the engine bay.... and more importantly underside of your hood......

pics of your vacum lines.... basically post up some pics of each item you installed and well go from there and save this build.....

youve put too much into this for failure.....


i have a full ebay kit working just fine on my car and i drive it everyday. and so far 3 trips to va and back........


well get it right.


now post some pics.... do it now


x49875394. Dont take it off, more then likely its a simple problem. Ebay turbos usually are good up to like 12psi daily with a restrictor(from wut i heard) gaskets and oil lines are deff things u wanna check. Check to see where the oil is spraying from and too.

[dallasb84]

if theres a problem with the drain line...... the oil pressure will build in the center section and blow past the turbine seal..... on any turbo not just ebay ones....

just keep that in mind

[TopNotchEG9]

I got the same set-up but never had any problem...but don't give up on the set-up...when i got the ebay turbo...i was told to re-torque every bolt on the turbo...and my motor is complete stock...

[Z U L8R]

oil everywhere.......hopefully you didn't crack a piston/ring/or ring land. if there's a bunch of oil coming out of the valve cover breather then it'd be a good idea to do a compression test on all the cylinders and make sure you didn't pop your motor.

blowing a turbo seal means smoke billowing out of your exhaust when the car runs...blowing your motor (in this scenario) means excessive crankcase pressure forcing oil out of everywhere it can......which is what it sounds like you did...

a turbo kits one thing.....whether ebay or the most expensive kit in the world....but not being tuned for either, will most assuredly leave you with a blown up motor.....

gl ;/

Dave

[CaTcH22]

If theres oil all over the manifold, its prolly just the feed line is loose or burnt through. You cant get oil that high up from a blown turbo seal, just oil out of the exhaust

[ej1boy95]

well i havent looked at my car. but basically theres a quart of oil sitting right where the downpipe is. this much came out in a matter of 30 seconds, cause i let my car idle for a little while. how could this much oil come out so fast ? and my car has been smoking a little when i first crank it up.

[ej1boy95]

before this happened there was a tiny bit of oil coming from the feed line and risistor plate. and also i had oil leaking from the oil pan gasket. but theres oil on the intercooling piping that come off the turbo and before this happened there was oil on the return line. but i still dont see how this much oil came out in 30 secs.

[dallasb84]

get sum pics man.....


take all your oil lines loose clean them and reassemble nice and tight..... clean the gasket too.....

if your drain line is wrong oil will push past the oil seal in the turbo causing it to go out the exducer

[ej1boy95]

ok i will get some pics tomorrow. but what is the exducer ?

[dallasb84]

turbine

[ej1boy95]

so it would be blowing oil through the piping and into the motor ?

[ej1boy95]

ok well im posting up some pics. from installing the turbo. sorry it has taken so long to get them up and its not a lot of pics. i havent got up under the car yet to look at the situation i got because its been below 30 degrees with like 9 degree wind chill everyday. hopefully i will get to look at it tomorrow.

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[tdurr]

the oil feed/drain set up isnt in the best spot, esp. with the feed resting on top of the mani. Pull off the pipes that clamps right on the turbo and see if there is oil in them.

[dallasb84]

yeah your turbo should not be at an angle... you need to get a 45* an fitting to get that line off the manifold..... i bet its melted

post a pic of the drain line.....

i think that might be your issue..... the oil feed and drain

[tdurr]

yeah your turbo should not be at an angle... you need to get a 45* an fitting to get that line off the manifold..... i bet its melted

post a pic of the drain line.....

i think that might be your issue..... the oil feed and drain

x47758766098

[ej1boy95]

so yall think that since the turbo is at an angle the oil isnt draining properly and oil is sitting in the turbo.

[scttydb411]

you melted through the feed line inside the braided sleeve more than likely. angle isn't too bad as long as the drain is a good diameter and no low spots in it. if you can straighten it out more it won't hurt, but the angle isn't likely the issue.

[LIKEG6]

When joey told me you were goin turbo. I said "Nooooooooooo!!!!!" You know how rare the Jackson Racing S/C is??? Plus it was clean like it was. G/l with the oil leak though.

[-S Double C-]

without a doubt that oil feed line is fucked being right on that manifold like that

[D3UC3S]

When joey told me you were goin turbo. I said "Nooooooooooo!!!!!" You know how rare the Jackson Racing S/C is??? Plus it was clean like it was. G/l with the oil leak though.

This car was in its prime in 2000....u have no idea how cool this car WAS. Cleanest one on the road. I was really upset to hear about the change as well

[ej1boy95]

When joey told me you were goin turbo. I said "Nooooooooooo!!!!!" You know how rare the Jackson Racing S/C is??? Plus it was clean like it was. G/l with the oil leak though.

yea a lot of ppl hate that i took it off. but i guess the SC just wasnt me. ever since i was like 10 ( when i started to get into cars ) ive always wanted a turbo so thats what im doingg. lol sorry everyone

[ej1boy95]

you melted through the feed line inside the braided sleeve more than likely. angle isn't too bad as long as the drain is a good diameter and no low spots in it. if you can straighten it out more it won't hurt, but the angle isn't likely the issue.

yup u and shawn are right. i looked at the feed line and theres rubber goozing out of the braided steel. so im going to the parker store tomorrow to get a new one made with a 90 degree elbow on it.

[ej1boy95]

This car was in its prime in 2000....u have no idea how cool this car WAS. Cleanest one on the road. I was really upset to hear about the change as well

ight might not have the supercharger anymore. but it is still the coolest and cleanest. lol

[CaTcH22]

If theres oil all over the manifold, its prolly just the feed line is loose or burnt through. You cant get oil that high up from a blown turbo seal, just oil out of the exhaust
:goodjob:

[Romeo]

ight might not have the supercharger anymore. but it is still the coolest and cleanest. lol
You can gladly buy it back. :D

[ej1boy95]

You can gladly buy it back. :D

haha. nah man im good. all the trouble i went through. im keeping the turbo.

[tdurr]

haha. nah man im good. all the trouble i went through. im keeping the turbo.


good to hear u found out the problem. hope everything else works out for ya man! btw need more pics!! lol

[dallasb84]

make sure you get it a foot or two longer so you can get it out of the way.....

moar is better

[tdurr]

he shouldnt need it, he should be able to go around the dizzy and bring it right over the top of the turbo.

[ej1boy95]

well i got a 45 degree angle and i new hose made today. i put it all on and i havent seen any leaks. everything looks good so far. now the only problemi have is relocating the return line. cause my stupid self didnt measure were i need to put it before i started to drill. so the fitting on the oil pan is right in front of the downpipe and the return line is wrapped around the downpipe. i put 3 layers of heat wrap around it till i can get a new oil pan and do it right.

[tdurr]

lol 3 layers should do u right. d series right?

[jojeezek]

good luck with the build. i'm building a d16 turbo too. :)

[jojeezek]

you will have no problems with the manifold..... one of the best cast manifolds made for the b series was a "drag" brand that your manifold is knocked off of. if that makes any sense. lol

good luck\



i got a tip for you


get some siemens deka high impedence injectors.... they are CHEAP and dont need resistor boxes..... plus.....THEY ARE CHEAP.

i got them for 40 bux a pop for 60lb 660s

Good tip on the injectors....where did you buy them from?

[ej1boy95]

lol 3 layers should do u right. d series right?

yea its a d series

[ej1boy95]

does anyone know a really good way to tap an oil pan. or good fittings so that i willl have a good seal

[dallasb84]

yes....

you should weld it on..... or have it welded on...

get a steel an fitting....

weld it on..... then with oil still in the pan drill it out.....

the oil on the back side with flush the chips out..... ive done about 6 oil pans like this with no problems....

one time i burned a small pin hole throught the pan tho...... i had to wait for the oil to drain at that point.... it sucked.

[dallasb84]

they make "bulkhead" an fittings too..... they work but you gotta drop the pan...


look for a tapped pan

[tdurr]

I just got another oil drain and bolted it on to my oil pan. lol works great and i can block if i ever get rid of my boost.

[ej1boy95]

yea right now i have my fitting bolted on. but it makes me paranoid everytime i drive it, cause i think oil is going to leak out and im going to lock up my motor. lol but getting it welded sounds like a good idea, ill think about that one.

[tdurr]

meh, locktight/super glue on the bolt and ur straight. I used some lock washers and its held up fine since july*knock on wood*

[ej1boy95]

lol

[dallasb84]

i swear to god if you let this build thread die with no dynos or tuning snapshots..... close up pics and a completed post.....

im going to neg rep you.

[tdurr]

ill just shank him....

[ej1boy95]

ok well i dont know if you notice, but im not 100 percent done with it. when i get everything done i will post some pics.

[dallasb84]

cool ive been following your build and rootin for ya

[tdurr]

ok well i dont know if you notice, but im not 100 percent done with it. when i get everything done i will post some pics. lol i feel ya on not being 100% done. im still not close to being done.


cool ive been following your build and rootin for ya


x2. id like to see the whole car too. everyone keeps sayin its super clean.

[ej1boy95]

well im really close to being done. the only thing i need to do is by a new oil pan or used and tap it the right way. but other than that i just need a tune and im done. i did install my turbo timer today. its one of the pen style apexi ones. anyways if i have time tomorrow i will post pics. of the whole car as it sits.

[ej1boy95]

well here lately my car hasnt been running right. idk if it is because im running a stock ecu and no tune, but when i drive my car for awhile it wants to idle at like 1500. then it acts like it has a 20lbs flywheel on it. it revs down real slow. it also backfires like a srt-4. could someone tell me why this is

[LIKEG6]

Tune, tune, tune, tune, tune.

The longer you drive it without a tune the more likely it will blow up or cause random problems.

[tdurr]

Tune, tune, tune, tune, tune.

The longer you drive it without a tune the more likely it will blow up or cause random problems.

true story. At least a basemap.

[dallasb84]

at the very least go online and buy a chipped ecu with a base map.....

[scttydb411]

brandon called me and i said i can send you a basemap and/or a chipped comp. did you get one yet?

[ej1boy95]

Tune, tune, tune, tune, tune.

The longer you drive it without a tune the more likely it will blow up or cause random problems.

well ive been driving it like a baby, u know staying out of boost. but i will get one soon. by the way how is your turbo coming along ?

[LIKEG6]

Should be finishing after I get my tax money. If I can stop having random bull shit problems. Lol

[ej1boy95]

Should be finishing after I get my tax money. If I can stop having random bull shit problems. Lol

yea that always seems to happen when your trying to accomplish something.

[ej1boy95]

so here are some pics. of how the car sits now !

http://i615.photobucket.com/albums/tt235/ej1boy95/0117001316.jpg
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[Romeo]

What iat are you running since you have the Y8 manifold? Didn't see one on the piping or anything.

[LIKEG6]

yea that always seems to happen when your trying to accomplish something.

That's for damn sure.

[dallasb84]

What iat are you running since you have the Y8 manifold? Didn't see one on the piping or anything.

more than likely that could be your major issue that causing drivability problems.... iat is important.

i suggest using a b series sensor...... it ould be easy to mount one on the manifold....

drill tap two holes and done

[LIKEG6]

I have mine straight in the intake because my fpr is blocking the stock location.

[ej1boy95]

What iat are you running since you have the Y8 manifold? Didn't see one on the piping or anything.

what is the iat ?

[hkwe36]

TUNE TUNE TUNE TUNE. Its the most important aspect of turbocharging, so why cheap out there.... Of course your car isnt going to run right, why would it? Most people who run ebay kits sucessfuly have a good tune.

Just disconnect a coupler on your charge pipe somewhere until your can get a tune. Your still have the flashy intercooler up front, you'll just have a big vaccum leak. The car is only gonna get worst longer you run it like this bro......

Your diffinitly on the right track with this budget build, but without a tune sooner or later its not going be so budget.

I can't wait to see some tuned dyno pulls bro!!!!!!

Do you have the injectors installed right now?

Your quality will only be as good as the weakest link in the system......

[ej1boy95]

TUNE TUNE TUNE TUNE. Its the most important aspect of turbocharging, so why cheap out there.... Of course your car isnt going to run right, why would it? Most people who run ebay kits sucessfuly have a good tune.

Just disconnect a coupler on your charge pipe somewhere until your can get a tune. Your still have the flashy intercooler up front, you'll just have a big vaccum leak. The car is only gonna get worst longer you run it like this bro......

Your diffinitly on the right track with this budget build, but without a tune sooner or later its not going be so budget.

I can't wait to see some tuned dyno pulls bro!!!!!!

Do you have the injectors installed right now?

Your quality will only be as good as the weakest link in the system......

well right now im running the stock injectors because i need to get a resistor box. but shouldnt i be alright if i drive the car without going into boost. cause thats how im driving right now. i mean could i blow an engine staying in vac. ?

[ejohnson88]

You can try your best to do what you think is good for your car but you never know what's going to happen. You should have never put anything on until it was ready to be finished. I hope that everything goes well for you but seeing as how you're treating it now, I am worried for your future. I will repeat everything everyone else has said...

TUNE TUNE TUNE TUNE TUNE. It is rediculous to EVER and I mean EVER run a car that is untuned, unless you are on your way to the dyno or currently in the process of street tuning. I've had a turbo D series, I've played around and I have spent money. And I can tell you that the single most important thing you can ever do to your car is to make sure it is TUNED.

my 2 cents.

[ej1boy95]

You can try your best to do what you think is good for your car but you never know what's going to happen. You should have never put anything on until it was ready to be finished. I hope that everything goes well for you but seeing as how you're treating it now, I am worried for your future. I will repeat everything everyone else has said...

TUNE TUNE TUNE TUNE TUNE. It is rediculous to EVER and I mean EVER run a car that is untuned, unless you are on your way to the dyno or currently in the process of street tuning. I've had a turbo D series, I've played around and I have spent money. And I can tell you that the single most important thing you can ever do to your car is to make sure it is TUNED.

my 2 cents.

so how long do u think it will last if i stay out of boost ? i know i should of waited, but when everything is sittin in your room u kind of cant help but put it on. im only 16 so im trying to figure where im going to get $ 400.

[dallasb84]

well right now im running the stock injectors because i need to get a resistor box. but shouldnt i be alright if i drive the car without going into boost. cause thats how im driving right now. i mean could i blow an engine staying in vac. ?

nope... your safe as long as you dont get curious+

[dallasb84]

try and find someone on honda tech that will email you a tune with the same setup you have...... 10psi.... is pretty general. and ebay turbos and d series setups are very common...... especially with factory internals.... your biggest prob is gonna be having the same injectors that the tune supports..... your going to try to clone his engine and use his tune......


i think this should work for you

[dallasb84]

this is the only way i see you saving a few buck rather than spending 400 on a tune

your still going to be at least 80-100 for a chipped zif socketed ecu..... and at least 30-50 bucks for someone to burn a chip for you locally....

this way your not paying for dyno time and not paying the tuner for his time other than burning some software for you....

id say max its 200 bux,,,,,, but........ its i would say and 80 percent chance youll have no prob and 20 percent chance you pop your shit.....

where as 400 bux ....... you got a 90 percent chance your not gonna pop your shit lol




many many people use chips and basic tunes especially in the after market gm crowd......

[tdurr]

i dono if i would drive around wit the coupler off, turbo deff could be overworked and the life reduced by a good bit even with casual driving. but a chipped ecu + injectors are needed. Do u have a wideband?

[.:Stirfry:.]

since you have such a simple setup id get my chiped ecu from here. http://www.phearable.net/shoppingcart/engine-computers-phearable-ecus-c-23_24.html

only cost like 150 & plug and go.. just tell them by typin in your setup, boost, inj etc.

i had it on my old stock turbo ls, and ran like a charm with no problems.

[00CiViC00]

dont disconnect the piping plz , thats a bad idea

[hkwe36]

Disconnect the charge pipe and throw a filter on the end. As soon as you have the money for the tune all u have to do is reconnect the pipe and install the injectors and tune away.

All your doing now is causing more problems then you have and you already said your staying in vaccum so why not add some security.......

[hkwe36]

i dono if i would drive around wit the coupler off, turbo deff could be overworked and the life reduced by a good bit even with casual driving. but a chipped ecu + injectors are needed. Do u have a wideband?

Are you serious the turbo is gonna spin either way, coupler on or coupler off. Turbos are engineered to be spun. Please explain to me how the turbo will be over worked any more than it is now, with a coupler off?

[hkwe36]

dont disconnect the piping plz , thats a bad idea


Whats so bad about it, please explain so I will understand. Thanks

[kain]

Whats so bad about it, please explain so I will understand. Thanks

you do realize, turbos have a red line. they spin at a given range and that is where they are designed to run. if you break the stream between the turbo and intake, then the turbo's waste gate has no view of the specific pressure it needs to vent, and thus will not ever bypass exhaust gasses, letting the turbo spool to its doom. sometimes it doesn't grasp the imagination on how wickedly fast these spin. remember, this is a turbine. think of a jet engine essentially. anywhere from zero rpm to 200 thousand rpms is whats seen in a turbos lifespan. what would happen if the turbo where to start resonating and somehow the compressor wheel made contact with the compressor housing. your fucked.

the best solution is leave all the pipes connected, but allow the waste gate to somehow vent 100% continuously. this will allow the turbo to not spool, and also allow you to drive the car normally.

just watch out for very long hills that you happen to come across, your turbo might start to spool a tiny bit, but then at 1 psi i doubt anything will break.

[ej1boy95]

you do realize, turbos have a red line. they spin at a given range and that is where they are designed to run. if you break the stream between the turbo and intake, then the turbo's waste gate has no view of the specific pressure it needs to vent, and thus will not ever bypass exhaust gasses, letting the turbo spool to its doom. sometimes it doesn't grasp the imagination on how wickedly fast these spin. remember, this is a turbine. think of a jet engine essentially. anywhere from zero rpm to 200 thousand rpms is whats seen in a turbos lifespan. what would happen if the turbo where to start resonating and somehow the compressor wheel made contact with the compressor housing. your fucked.

the best solution is leave all the pipes connected, but allow the waste gate to somehow vent 100% continuously. this will allow the turbo to not spool, and also allow you to drive the car normally.

just watch out for very long hills that you happen to come across, your turbo might start to spool a tiny bit, but then at 1 psi i doubt anything will break.


well see when i do come across hills. i just drop a gear and go slow till im at the top. the closest i come to boost is maybe 5 in vac. lol

[ej1boy95]

since you have such a simple setup id get my chiped ecu from here. http://www.phearable.net/shoppingcart/engine-computers-phearable-ecus-c-23_24.html

only cost like 150 & plug and go.. just tell them by typin in your setup, boost, inj etc.

i had it on my old stock turbo ls, and ran like a charm with no problems.

i will defiently check this website out. but i do have 530cc injectors. i just need to find a resistor box then i can put them in. thanks for the info.

[ej1boy95]

i dono if i would drive around wit the coupler off, turbo deff could be overworked and the life reduced by a good bit even with casual driving. but a chipped ecu + injectors are needed. Do u have a wideband?

i have injectors. but no i dont have wideband

[dallasb84]

take the spring out you wastegate......


thats what scotty told me he does when he gets emmisions.

that along with factory injectors and ecu

[tdurr]

you do realize, turbos have a red line. they spin at a given range and that is where they are designed to run. if you break the stream between the turbo and intake, then the turbo's waste gate has no view of the specific pressure it needs to vent, and thus will not ever bypass exhaust gasses, letting the turbo spool to its doom. sometimes it doesn't grasp the imagination on how wickedly fast these spin. remember, this is a turbine. think of a jet engine essentially. anywhere from zero rpm to 200 thousand rpms is whats seen in a turbos lifespan. what would happen if the turbo where to start resonating and somehow the compressor wheel made contact with the compressor housing. your fucked.

the best solution is leave all the pipes connected, but allow the waste gate to somehow vent 100% continuously. this will allow the turbo to not spool, and also allow you to drive the car normally.

just watch out for very long hills that you happen to come across, your turbo might start to spool a tiny bit, but then at 1 psi i doubt anything will break.
Thank you for explaining that bit of info to him. Reps.


But back on topic, i say get a wideband, go to a jy and snag a injector box for free-10bucks and the clip for it, look it up how to wire them up. Then get a chipped ecu and a tune then ull be 100% set.

[ej1boy95]

Thank you for explaining that bit of info to him. Reps.


But back on topic, i say get a wideband, go to a jy and snag a injector box for free-10bucks and the clip for it, look it up how to wire them up. Then get a chipped ecu and a tune then ull be 100% set.

well i went to the junk yard and looked at some ef's and other civics but couldnt find one.

[kain]

well see when i do come across hills. i just drop a gear and go slow till im at the top. the closest i come to boost is maybe 5 in vac. lolso youd rather let your engine rev to the moon?

[ej1boy95]

so youd rather let your engine rev to the moon?

no i dont let it rev high. i just go slow up the hill. and i stay at the same speed and rpm's

[tdurr]

well i went to the junk yard and looked at some ef's and other civics but couldnt find one.

dont look in civics. none have them. U could find a fuel injected 86-89 accord and use the box off that, or a eclipse/talon could do the job too. google it to find out what ones are the best to use/easiest to wire up.

[ej1boy95]

dont look in civics. none have them. U could find a fuel injected 86-89 accord and use the box off that, or a eclipse/talon could do the job too. google it to find out what ones are the best to use/easiest to wire up.

ight man thanks

[Romeo]

Any 88-91 civic/crx or 90-93 Integra will have the resistor box. I have an extra one also. if it comes down to it.

[tdurr]

Any 88-91 civic/crx or 90-93 Integra will have the resistor box. I have an extra one also. if it comes down to it.
so do i lol.

[ej1boy95]

how much do both of yall want for them ? lol

[tdurr]

i mean u can have it if u can just meet me somewhere, unless u really live in bama, then cover the shipping u can haz.

[dallasb84]

cant beat that with a fat dick

[Slomaro Z28]

Man, I just read every post in here.....thanks Dallasb84 :cheers:

[ej1boy95]

Man, I just read every post in here.....thanks Dallasb84 :cheers:

lol. you just read EVERY post

[Slomaro Z28]

lol. you just read EVERY post

Yeah, it took a few...so I thought I'd point out EVERY post, lol. DallasB pointed someone wanting to do their 1st turbo car here (not me). Hope everything works out for you.