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RL...
11-26-2009, 02:07 AM
1) I know absolutely nothing about offset, or what it really is.

I want to get some new wheels for my car. I found a set of 18x8 wheels I want, and they are offered in +25, 33, 45, and 48 offset. How do I know which will fit or look best? I hear that the bigger the number the bigger the lip will be but I also want my wheels to fit/function/fit! lol thanks for the help

DeeAOne
11-26-2009, 02:23 AM
if im not mistaken the lower the number usually the more lip there is. im not an expert on this.

heres one with +38

http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_images/1/564/841/1407920018_large.jpg

and these are 18x11 with 0 offset. :crazy:

http://ll.speedhunters.com/u/f/eagames/NFS/speedhunters.com/Images/Mike%20Garrett/Car%20Features/Olive911/IMG_9181.jpg

quickdodgeŽ
11-26-2009, 07:40 AM
I'm easily confused with all this offset talk. I don't mess with wheels enough to remember how all that is figured up. Later, QD.

PURP
11-26-2009, 07:55 AM
Wheel Offset

The wheel offset is the distance from the hub mounting surface to the centerline of the wheel. There are three types of offsets.

Positive Offset
A positive offset means the mounting surface of the wheel is positioned in front of the true centerline of the wheel. Most factory rims will have this type of offset.

Zero Offset
When the hub mounting surface is centered within the rim, it is known as a zero offset.

Negative Offset
If the hub mounting surface is on the brake side of the center line of the rim, it is considered a negative offset or "deep dish".

http://www.wheelfire.com/images/Tech_clip_image001_0000.gif

quickdodgeŽ
11-26-2009, 08:10 AM
Wheel Offset

The wheel offset is the distance from the hub mounting surface to the centerline of the wheel. There are three types of offsets.

Positive Offset
A positive offset means the mounting surface of the wheel is positioned in front of the true centerline of the wheel. Most factory rims will have this type of offset.

Zero Offset
When the hub mounting surface is centered within the rim, it is known as a zero offset.

Negative Offset
If the hub mounting surface is on the brake side of the center line of the rim, it is considered a negative offset or "deep dish".

http://www.wheelfire.com/images/Tech_clip_image001_0000.gif

You know what, lolol? That description, for some reason, made it more clear than anything else I've read. Thanks.

Now what about backspacing? How is that figured? Later, QD.

PURP
11-26-2009, 08:14 AM
You know what, lolol? That description, for some reason, made it more clear than anything else I've read. Thanks.

Now what about backspacing? How is that figured? Later, QD.

Wheel Backspacing and Offset




(http://www.customtacos.com/tech/index.php?print=40)

Before mounting a set of aftermarket wheels, there are some dynamics involved with fitment that are best to understand first.
1. Wheel Diameter. This is the diameter of the wheel. Stock wheels are commonly 15 or 16 inch diameter. This dimension is usually in 1 increments (i.e. 15, 16, 17) but some manufacturers offer 16.5, which is rare.
2. Wheel Width. This is the width of the wheel, measured inside the outer lip of the wheel. This dimension is usually in 1/2 increments (i.e. 7.5, 8)
3. Wheel Center. This is the center of the wheel in relation to the width.
4. Offset. The distance from the centerline of the wheel to the face of the mounting surface of the wheel that contacts the hub.


4.1 Zero Offset. Indicates the mounting surface is at the wheel center.
4.2. Negative Offset. Indicates the mounting surface is behind (or inboard) the centerline of the rim. This is often found on standard rear-wheel-drive vehicles and on so-called reversed rims. (Diagram below shows negative offset)
4.3 Positive Offset. Indicates the mounting surface is in front of (or outboard) the centerline of the rim. This is often found on front-wheel-drive vehicles. Stock Tacoma wheels have Positive offset.

5. Backspacing. The distance from the mounting surface to the inside lip of the wheel. This measurement is closely related to offset (without actually measuring, backspacing is about equal to [Wheel Width / 2] + [Offset] + [about 1/4] ).
6. Centerbore. The centerbore of a wheel is the size of the machined hole on the back of the wheel that centers the wheel properly on the hub of the car. This hole is machined to exactly match the hub so the wheels are precisely positioned, minimizing the chance of a vibration. This measurement may be critical to clear the hubs of a 4WD.
7. Bolt Circle. Also known as PCD (Pattern Circle Diameter). The bolt circle represents the diameter of an imaginary circle that goes through the center of the bolt holes. 4x2 Tacoma Bolt Circle: 5 lug on 4.5 PCD; 4x4/Prerunner Tacoma Bolt Circle: 6 lug on 5.5 PCD.



http://www.customtacos.com/tech/files/40-RWD-Wheel-diagram.jpg

Hope this helps as well

RL...
11-26-2009, 01:34 PM
thanks purp, those posts helped a lot...that makes more sense now...

So why is it that I have never heard anyone say negative 25 or positive...I've only heard ppl say "oh my offset is xx"...and how can I figure out what offset is best for my car?

The wheels I am looking at are work meister s1 replicas and am trying to figure out what would be best...like these
http://ll.speedhunters.com/u/f/eagames/NFS/speedhunters.com/Images/Mike%20Garrett/Car%20Features/Olive911/IMG_9181.jpg

speedminded
11-27-2009, 02:49 PM
thanks purp, those posts helped a lot...that makes more sense now...

So why is it that I have never heard anyone say negative 25 or positive...I've only heard ppl say "oh my offset is xx"...and how can I figure out what offset is best for my car?

The wheels I am looking at are work meister s1 replicas and am trying to figure out what would be best...like these

http://ll.speedhunters.com/u/f/eagames/NFS/speedhunters.com/Images/Mike%20Garrett/Car%20Features/Olive911/IMG_9181.jpgBecause you're never around cars baller enough to have a negative offset.

This should help visualize what different widths and offsets mean on the same wheel...

SouthrnStyle
11-27-2009, 03:26 PM
Go with +33 the stock offset on your wheels is +48

JITB
11-27-2009, 03:32 PM
i would do +25 if your not gonna lower it..