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ej1boy95
11-25-2009, 11:40 PM
well im boosting my D. so im wondering what would be a good amount on a complete stock D ? i was thinking 10psi with a good tune. now dont flame me about this, this is my first turbo'd car

slostang
11-25-2009, 11:41 PM
id say stay safe with 8 and a good tune being that it is your first turbo car. you dont want to get over zealous and pop it. what size turbo will you be using?

Tech5
11-25-2009, 11:42 PM
Everyday driver

3psi low
7-8 psi high


anything more your pushing your luck

their are sooooo many people on IA that did so and then they bitch and make a thread

"" why did my motor blow up I got it tuned at 10-13 psi


what went wrong... its called pushing your luck, if you like to be on the safe side do what I stated
If not Iwill see you post in about few months

-S Double C-
11-25-2009, 11:44 PM
your fine on 10lbs jake dont believe this bullshit, me and brandon have BEEN there!

JJSPEC Racing
11-25-2009, 11:45 PM
What d series do you have and what is the general health of the engine? A compression/leakdown test will help decide the best answer.

Tech5
11-25-2009, 11:45 PM
I know a story recent at that

Some one had a perfect motor with no issues and super low miles

like 40k and someone also told him that he will tune this to run great and last

he beat the shit out of it as I watched for 3 hours... yes he did some cool downs and then did it again but Beat the shitttt out of it to stretched as much power as he could with less care of what he is doing to someone elses car!!!!

after all said he got 225 hp and then BAM!! POPPED the guy told him that he wanted to only reach 195 hp was his goal and something that would last him... NO he is out of all this money and 600 bucks for a chip and 3 hour tune!!!!


so you like that story or do you want to be safe?

ej1boy95
11-25-2009, 11:47 PM
your fine on 10lbs jake dont believe this bullshit, me and brandon have BEEN there!

lol ight man. just seeing what other people say. hows your car coming along ? i havent been over there in awhile.

-S Double C-
11-25-2009, 11:48 PM
who the hell tuned that shit i would have punched them in the mouth!

ej1boy95
11-25-2009, 11:48 PM
What d series do you have and what is the general health of the engine? A compression/leakdown test will help decide the best answer.

its D16Z6. its in pretty good shape for 177,000 miles. i havent done a compression test or none of that.

-S Double C-
11-25-2009, 11:48 PM
lol ight man. just seeing what other people say. hows your car coming along ? i havent been over there in awhile.

its done, waiting on my cams and cam gears to come in then its going to the dyno

Tech5
11-25-2009, 11:48 PM
My story and people in the story are all on IA and well known and I would never trust this tunner with my HOTWHEELS

I will not tell names due to its IA's rules


I have had mannnny turbo cars, want to be safe or trust people lashing out what they have done and got lucky doing it...

Are they going to pay to fix your car when it breaks ???? NO

So do what you feel is safe and what your willing to spend. If you dont care about blowing it up then shitt hit 15psi

ash7
11-25-2009, 11:48 PM
Everyday driver

3psi low
7-8 psi high


anything more your pushing your luck

their are sooooo many people on IA that did so and then they bitch and make a thread

"" why did my motor blow up I got it tuned at 10-13 psi


what went wrong... its called pushing your luck, if you like to be on the safe side do what I stated
If not Iwill see you post in about few months

advice that should be heeded - pushing an engine to the limits of it's mechanical engineering is just asking for a short lifespan. overbuild - underboost.

don't get crazy with it - notice Josh said "...in a few months." Which is very, very true.

-jonathan

Tech5
11-25-2009, 11:49 PM
who the hell tuned that shit i would have punched them in the mouth!

A well KNOWN tunner


and they told him and made him sign shit that they will not warranty anything so he is FUKED

-S Double C-
11-25-2009, 11:50 PM
My story and people in the story are all on IA and well known and I would never trust this tunner with my HOTWHEELS

I will not tell names due to its IA's rules


I have had mannnny turbo cars, want to be safe or trust people lashing out what they have done and got lucky doing it...

Are they going to pay to fix your car when it breaks ???? NO

So do what you feel is safe and what your willing to spend. If you dont care about blowing it up then shitt hit 15psi

pm the name cause im pretty sure i know who it is :lmao: ive SEEN 6 motors tuned by him crack sleeves!!!! Not including TWO of mine!

Tech5
11-25-2009, 11:51 PM
I will never tell only those will know.. Sorry its the rules..
and JJ I am just picking on you homie


its IA not serioous

ej1boy95
11-25-2009, 11:52 PM
its done, waiting on my cams and cam gears to come in then its going to the dyno

what was wrong with the ones u had ?

THEONE
11-25-2009, 11:54 PM
stay under 10psi i made 200whp at 8psi tuned by scotty@mainstream. lots of fun and reliable as all hell.that hatch scared me at times.dont get cheap on the tuning man,thats what completes the package...and yeah i ran a junk ebay turbo kit with no major issues at all....

-S Double C-
11-25-2009, 11:54 PM
type r cams and stock cams gears wasnt gonna cut it for wha ti have lined up after the bigger turbo and fuel setup

ej1boy95
11-25-2009, 11:55 PM
type r cams and stock cams gears wasnt gonna cut it for wha ti have lined up after the bigger turbo and fuel setup

ohh so u got a bigger turbo ?

-S Double C-
11-25-2009, 11:58 PM
nah not yet, gonna buy a truck or either a bike then im gonna get one, the one i want is 1300

teh_mugen18
11-25-2009, 11:58 PM
pm the name


lol i was gonna say the same thing/send a pm asking because i wanna see if i can make sure i AVOID that dude, id hate to go dyno-tune and have it be the guy who blows engines up on the dyno... :(

ej1boy95
11-26-2009, 12:01 AM
nah not yet, gonna buy a truck or either a bike then im gonna get one, the one i want is 1300

ohhh ok. i gotcha man. ive already oreder my stuff just waiting on it to get here

Tech5
11-26-2009, 12:01 AM
I am sorry PEEPS I shall never tell. If I ever meet you in person or at a meet I will give all the details of who,where,etc..

But not on here Its the rules man you cant bash...

Trust me, 15 or so friends of mine knows not to use them and he has lost many due to this...And he thinks he is a SOHC Honda master.. My mom can tune better and not blow your shit up

teh_mugen18
11-26-2009, 12:07 AM
I am sorry PEEPS I shall never tell. If I ever meet you in person or at a meet I will give all the details of who,where,etc..

But not on here Its the rules man you cant bash...

Trust me, 15 or so friends of mine knows not to use them and he has lost many due to this...And he thinks he is a SOHC Honda master.. My mom can tune better and not blow your shit up


lmao how bout email or AIM? :lmfao:

Tech5
11-26-2009, 12:09 AM
If I see you at a meet

ej1boy95
11-26-2009, 12:12 AM
man yall serious about this tuner. lol i already know who im using

ash7
11-26-2009, 12:27 AM
man yall serious about this tuner. lol i already know who im using

what made you remove the supercharger man?

-jonathan

ej1boy95
11-26-2009, 01:16 AM
what made you remove the supercharger man?

-jonathan

just got tired off it. i was limited power with it. besides ive always wanted to turbo my car

marcos713
11-26-2009, 01:33 AM
Everyday driver

3psi low
7-8 psi high


anything more your pushing your luck

their are sooooo many people on IA that did so and then they bitch and make a thread

"" why did my motor blow up I got it tuned at 10-13 psi


what went wrong... its called pushing your luck, if you like to be on the safe side do what I stated
If not Iwill see you post in about few months

^^what he said. especially with your motor having that many miles. i wouldnt think of boosting my motor at my current mileage (180,xxx). but if you insist do a compression test n leak down test. goodluck with it man

-S Double C-
11-26-2009, 08:23 AM
^^mileage means nothing if it was taking care of and the compression/leakdown is good, ive seen a 200k mile gsr get on the dyno boosted and make 300whp and 200ish trq 9 lbs and held it like a champ...engine ended up going like a year later to a rod bearing

-S Double C-
11-26-2009, 08:26 AM
just got tired off it. i was limited power with it. besides ive always wanted to turbo my car

cause who wants a supercharged civic at only makes 160whp he can do more then that on 3-4 lbs on a turbo

ej1boy95
11-28-2009, 12:28 AM
cause who wants a supercharged civic at only makes 160whp he can do more then that on 3-4 lbs on a turbo

hell yea to that !!!!!

kain
11-28-2009, 07:37 PM
^^mileage means nothing if it was taking care of and the compression/leakdown is good, ive seen a 200k mile gsr get on the dyno boosted and make 300whp and 200ish trq 9 lbs and held it like a champ...engine ended up going like a year later to a rod bearing

soo.... after one year it dies.


turbos add a good bit of power, but with power, more heat and stress is thus created. first you must combat this heat (coolent temp, calendar head temp, oil temp, combustion temp ) and stress on internals is going to happen as well. sure a good tune will get you where you need to go, but power should be the last thing. reliability is key.

CaTcH22
11-29-2009, 10:04 AM
Ed at Balanced Performance tuned my SOHC supercharged setup, and my turbo setup with a t3/t4 at 15psi about 3 years ago. Its my DD and I beat the shit out of it and not a single problem yet. Then JJSPEC street tuned my EF Hatch t3 setup at 8 psi, and that motor had 160,xxx miles on it. Again no problems.

xdavidscenex
11-29-2009, 10:09 AM
i know who i know who! and i agree my car blew up on the way home after it was beat the shit out of from the tunner


I am sorry PEEPS I shall never tell. If I ever meet you in person or at a meet I will give all the details of who,where,etc..

But not on here Its the rules man you cant bash...

Trust me, 15 or so friends of mine knows not to use them and he has lost many due to this...And he thinks he is a SOHC Honda master.. My mom can tune better and not blow your shit up

punkr6
11-29-2009, 10:14 AM
i know who i know who! and i agree my car blew up on the way home after it was beat the shit out of from the tunner

someone needs to come through on this....

ej1boy95
11-29-2009, 12:25 PM
Ed at Balanced Performance tuned my SOHC supercharged setup, and my turbo setup with a t3/t4 at 15psi about 3 years ago. Its my DD and I beat the shit out of it and not a single problem yet. Then JJSPEC street tuned my EF Hatch t3 setup at 8 psi, and that motor had 160,xxx miles on it. Again no problems.

was the 15 psi car stock ( internal wise ) ? Im guessing its not since you ran 15 pounds

CaTcH22
11-29-2009, 12:30 PM
was the 15 psi car stock ( internal wise ) ? Im guessing its not since you ran 15 pounds
No. I have Eagle Rods, SRP pistons, stock bore and stock sleeves, ARP head studs, stock head.

ej1boy95
11-29-2009, 05:40 PM
No. I have Eagle Rods, SRP pistons, stock bore and stock sleeves, ARP head studs, stock head.

ok thanks

marcos713
11-30-2009, 12:10 AM
someone needs to come through on this....

agreed.... i wanna know...

cm7k24
11-30-2009, 01:42 AM
someone needs to come through on this....

hell yeah, im about to tune my shit to,

ej1boy95
11-30-2009, 12:26 PM
I would like to know who it is also

imprtguy_94
11-30-2009, 01:09 PM
your fine on 10lbs jake dont believe this bullshit, me and brandon have BEEN there!

yeah but like ase-tec said before. your pushing your luck. stock n/a internals are not ment to hold boost anyways. so they arent going to take much abuse from the boost produced. i wouldnt run 10 on a stock motor id say 7 or 8.

ej1boy95
11-30-2009, 04:23 PM
yeah but like ase-tec said before. your pushing your luck. stock n/a internals are not ment to hold boost anyways. so they arent going to take much abuse from the boost produced. i wouldnt run 10 on a stock motor id say 7 or 8.

thanks !

k3tsurui
12-01-2009, 05:54 AM
before i did my c5 swap, i boosted the hell out of the D that was in my car to see how well it would hold up before it blows. i opened up the wastegate all the way and maxed out my 3 bar which equates to 26-27 psi? i dont remember the conversion off the top of my head. but i was riding around on that for a min until my big toe got happy. i was spinning 5th on a street tune..

ej1boy95
12-01-2009, 05:55 PM
before i did my c5 swap, i boosted the hell out of the D that was in my car to see how well it would hold up before it blows. i opened up the wastegate all the way and maxed out my 3 bar which equates to 26-27 psi? i dont remember the conversion off the top of my head. but i was riding around on that for a min until my big toe got happy. i was spinning 5th on a street tune..

and how long did that motor last ?

jcs
12-01-2009, 06:10 PM
prob all of about a pull....lol

k3tsurui
12-01-2009, 07:34 PM
about an hr after i afc hacked it, lol ....but considering that I was trying to blow it on purpose = that is long

The moral of the story: stock civic holds more boost than some take for granted even though the journals are the size of your pinky


and how long did that motor last ?

d16_turbo
12-01-2009, 07:40 PM
i know who i know who! and i agree my car blew up on the way home after it was beat the shit out of from the tunner


now i know who it is lol

ej1boy95
12-01-2009, 08:31 PM
now i know who it is lol

who is it ?

ej1boy95
12-01-2009, 08:32 PM
about an hr after i afc hacked it, lol ....but considering that I was trying to blow it on purpose = that is long

The moral of the story: stock civic holds more boost than some take for granted even though the journals are the size of your pinky

so you had a stock engine on 27 psi and it lasted that long ? thats pretty damn long i think i will be fine on 10psi then. i might do 8psi riding through town then 10psi for fun. lol even though its that much of a difference.

ash7
12-02-2009, 12:57 AM
so you had a stock engine on 27 psi and it lasted that long ? thats pretty damn long i think i will be fine on 10psi then. i might do 8psi riding through town then 10psi for fun. lol even though its that much of a difference.

:look: you go do that champ.

...we'll see you in a few months.
-jonathan

jcs
12-02-2009, 01:25 AM
lulzz^

just a honda
12-02-2009, 03:49 PM
how about u guys tell him a tuner u would use not a tuner not to use that u cant say the name of lol ......... i would go to ed at balanced i know of a few cars he has done a great job on . that who i was going to take the srt too.

xdavidscenex
12-02-2009, 05:55 PM
me personally tampa mike
he will do a pull let the car cool for a good 25 min to 30 then do another pull then cool again and etc. and usually after about 4 or 5 pulls its over unlike my other exp the tunner did 12 pulls one after another and didnt let turbo cool just shut straight off.

ej1boy95
12-02-2009, 07:56 PM
well i was thinking of scotty from mainstream.. what about him ?

k3tsurui
12-02-2009, 08:52 PM
hell yeah .... with vTEC


so you had a stock engine on 27 psi and it lasted that long ? thats pretty damn long i think i will be fine on 10psi then. i might do 8psi riding through town then 10psi for fun. lol even though its that much of a difference.

ej1boy95
12-03-2009, 12:31 PM
Yup. Lol

just a honda
12-03-2009, 01:43 PM
well some people are tell me to check with turbo dav about tunning . u might want to check with him. i got to save up some money to take my car....:D

ej1boy95
12-03-2009, 04:05 PM
well some people are tell me to check with turbo dav about tunning . u might want to check with him. i got to save up some money to take my car....:D

where is he located at ?