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FAM0U5
11-20-2009, 01:06 PM
What would be better, army or air force?

and what jobs give out the best pay? I was thinking about this for awhile now and I really want to start my life in the right path. I know this will help me in the long run paying for my college and such. I am willing to learn anything either it be in a office or in the field. Plus I dont care if I leave alot or not I plan to be active for 3 years or so...

Nyteryder
11-20-2009, 01:11 PM
i got 7 years in the airforce and i pick none of the above. I am now a civilian contractor in iraq. Good training and GREAT money. LMK if you need somne info

BABY J
11-20-2009, 01:13 PM
search function.

8 years Air Force. Ea service offers diff things -- depends on your personality

Romeo
11-20-2009, 01:13 PM
I tried joining a few branches of the military, and they all turned me down because i'm diabetic. What kind of bullshit is that????

BABY J
11-20-2009, 01:17 PM
^^ Would you want to go to war a/ w diabetic? What if u need a fix and are in a remote area w/ no insulin? That's a complication at war that is not needed.

redrumracer
11-20-2009, 01:25 PM
^^ Would you want to go to war a/ w diabetic? What if u need a fix and are in a remote area w/ no insulin? That's a complication at war that is not needed.

pretty much what this fellow said


too much of a liability. too many things could go wrong.... but there is hope for you feller if you want to be a public servant. look to local government and not fed government

One_Bad_SHO
11-20-2009, 09:56 PM
Really depends on what GT score you get imo.

Stormhammer
11-20-2009, 09:58 PM
i hate being canadian -_- i almost enlisted.

Anywho - depends on your interests and such - for me, I'm a total robotics kind of person, and the AF has more in terms of robotics than any other branch, so far.

One_Bad_SHO
11-20-2009, 10:00 PM
....meaning... both branches have a lot to offer in tems of training for a job that would be beneficial to you in the civilian world. However, the higher your GT score - the more job options you have.

For instance, if you score a GT of 110 or higher in the Army you are eligable for ANY job you pick as long as it is available. I'm not sure what the Air Forces requires in terms of the GT score but I'm sure its a little higher than thre Army.

1990wade
11-20-2009, 10:02 PM
yea right now im decidin between the airforce and the army national guard

One_Bad_SHO
11-20-2009, 10:03 PM
yea right now im decidin between the airforce and the army national guard

Full time or part time?

The National Guard is pretty cool since you are governed by the State AND the Govt.

Echonova
11-20-2009, 10:05 PM
I have designed a handy guide to help you distinguish between the branches...






http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x249/Echonova1/untitled.jpg

One_Bad_SHO
11-20-2009, 10:08 PM
I am currently a Chemical, Biological, Radiological & Nuclear Specialist (74D) in the Army National Guard. However, If all goes as planned with my security clearance I should be a Signals Intelligence Analyst (Military Intel - 35N) by Dec. 20th. I'll be submitting my WOFT packet next year to hopefully get into Army Aviation and fly helicopters. ;)

dohc4.6sc
11-20-2009, 10:14 PM
I am currently a Chemical, Biological, Radiological & Nuclear Specialist (74D) in the Army National Guard. However, If all goes as planned with my security clearance I should be a Signals Intelligence Analyst (Military Intel - 35N) by Dec. 20th. I'll be submitting my WOFT packet next year to hopefully get into Army Aviation and fly helicopters. ;)


i almost did 74d when i signed up. i went 63b instead and love it, (now its a 91b or 91g or some shit i dunno they just changed it)

ep9716
11-20-2009, 10:22 PM
If Your doing for the money...You wont make it.
It's something you gotta enjoy doing.

BKgen®
11-20-2009, 10:27 PM
i got 7 years in the airforce and i pick none of the above. I am now a civilian contractor in iraq. Good training and GREAT money. LMK if you need somne info

Blackwater?

dohc4.6sc
11-20-2009, 10:32 PM
Blackwater are peices of shit.

fixed

BKgen®
11-20-2009, 10:40 PM
fixed

Butthurt much?

dohc4.6sc
11-20-2009, 10:41 PM
Butthurt much?


negative, but i have seen what they do. if you would have seen the same you would have the same opinion as i.

BKgen®
11-20-2009, 10:43 PM
negative, but i have seen what they do. if you would have seen the same you would have the same opinion as i.

Maybe. My dad's a cargo plane pilot in Afghanistan for BW, so I doubt he's done any of the things you say "they do." ;)

dohc4.6sc
11-20-2009, 10:48 PM
Maybe. My dad's a cargo plane pilot in Afghanistan for BW, so I doubt he's done any of the things you say "they do." ;)


well i would say some things "they" ( and by they and dont mean all )
do but its OPSEC so i cant.

FAM0U5
11-20-2009, 10:50 PM
If Your doing for the money...You wont make it.
It's something you gotta enjoy doing.

That's a lie.


Blackwater?

maybe?

ep9716
11-20-2009, 10:52 PM
That's a lie.


I wouldn't hear it all the time tho:thinking:
But I guess money is always right.

FAM0U5
11-20-2009, 11:07 PM
I wouldn't hear it all the time tho:thinking:
But I guess money is always right.

I will enjoy making money..

Nyteryder
11-21-2009, 12:02 AM
Blackwater?

No, I started off working for KBR and then Agility Logistics and now I am going back over there to work for honeywell

dallasb84
11-21-2009, 12:24 AM
i want to get on with dyncorp a few buddies i got have said they have 6 figure salaries for afgan deployments..... btw i was in the airforce and all in all it was cool...

i joined too young and got into trouble..... but the training i got and experience is key....


i work with people that have degrees and i make more money(in some cases).... i work with guys that have paid 30k for liscenses to do certain work and i tell them what to do and i make more money(in almost all cases)....I have no liscense:).

but alot of that has to do with my experience and skills so.......


id say go air force... it easy and the jobs are more specialized.... navy next... then fuck it go army or marines..... but.... if you join air force and get kicked out the army will take you.... but not the other way aroung :).

also dont go computer or it..... you can get better training from devry or itt tech.... dont got civil engineering..... do something with weapons systems, aviation, and or nuclear. best bet is to go search monster and find the highest paid technical job and base your decision on that......


or be a paralegal.....:)

anyways i hope you make it and retire wish i did.

Firefightin_tC
11-21-2009, 02:11 AM
i got 7 years in the airforce and i pick none of the above. I am now a civilian contractor in iraq. Good training and GREAT money. LMK if you need somne info

x2.

Civilian Contractor in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia.

Easy Money...Easy Job.

Ready to come home.

Humphrizzle
11-21-2009, 02:21 AM
i almost signed my NAVY enlistment papers a few months ago when i didnt have a job.

I was approved for any job I wanted that was available. My asvab score was a 92.

Navy and Air Force pay the most. The jobs are much less dangerous and the training you get is amazing.

If i'm not in school by spring, I'm enlisting for real this time.

Dont go nuclear. It's a bitch. I've only met 1 person that enjoys their Nuclear career.

95alty
11-21-2009, 08:08 AM
If its about the money.... forget about it. If you want the life of bronze and heroism... join the Marine Corps... All these POGs and airmen are just giving there 2 cents and what not. What do you want to do and ill tell you which branch is the best no bias. You want combat... go marines, you want an education go navy or airforce, you want to look nasty like everyday and have bad officers and ncos, go army.

FAM0U5
11-21-2009, 10:38 AM
If its about the money.... forget about it. If you want the life of bronze and heroism... join the Marine Corps... All these POGs and airmen are just giving there 2 cents and what not. What do you want to do and ill tell you which branch is the best no bias. You want combat... go marines, you want an education go navy or airforce, you want to look nasty like everyday and have bad officers and ncos, go army.

I want to be where the money is... Ill enjoy anything if the price is right, no pun intended.

Hektik
11-21-2009, 11:19 AM
the money you make is not based on your career choice.. all branches of the military get paid the same... the pay is based on your rank.....the only difference is that some incentives are added depending on what and where you do it.. for instance.... an E1 in the military makes an avg $13,809.60 yearly... but heres the kicker.. you get monthly allowances or basically bonuses depending on your situation... if your married you get an extra 1k or so a month. if you are in the navy and go out on the ship you will also make family separation pay which is around another 150 or so.. then if you work on the flight deck you get flight deck pay, hazardous duty pay, sea duty pay,so on and so on. aside from this you also get into tax free zones where your entire check for those 6months, year, or whatever are tax free. the only thing they pull taxes on is your inital pay. all your bonuses are tax free..so even though you might have brought in 30k theyll only pull taxes from 13k or so which puts you in a lower tax bracket....

there is a lot that goes into the pay situation.. but like i said all branches start out at the same pay depending on the rank... some branches just tend to move up in rank faster than others.. and some jobs tend to give you more incentives....


side note: im biased, but go Navy... nothing like hitting 6 different countries and partying your ass off in six months, plus you sleep on an actual mattress(very small, but mattress none the less. lol) and eat real food...
if you have any more questions pm me... and GL

ps.. Aviation Ordnance.. best job ever.lol...
IYAOYAS

95alty
11-21-2009, 11:40 AM
^ I beg to differ.
Go Marine and you can be a grunt (WOOT) and be attached to a MEU and hit all the same countries the navy goes to... Get off the ship and spend "real" time there while they do all the gay stuff the navy does and get back on the ship and work out. Eat, sleep, workout, train. Thats the life... and theres ways around to make real money, IE.... get married (have an agreement), live off base (COLA or BAH), Have kids and rack up some real tax dollars

Hektik
11-21-2009, 11:45 AM
classic squid -vs- jarhead dispute...:rolleyes:

jhadleyh
11-21-2009, 11:48 AM
I have designed a handy guide to help you distinguish between the branches...









http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x249/Echonova1/untitled.jpg


God I love being in the Air Force.

95alty
11-21-2009, 11:54 AM
lol jarhead> squidbillies

and here comes the spokesman for the airforce himself ^

BABY J
11-21-2009, 12:01 PM
Air Force > *

/thread

jhadleyh
11-21-2009, 12:02 PM
Air Force > *

/thread



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ironchef
11-21-2009, 04:19 PM
Do you have to have military experience to be a civilian contractor?

Nyteryder
11-21-2009, 07:52 PM
airforce or contractor

Firefightin_tC
11-21-2009, 08:46 PM
Depends on the contract.

I'm a Firefighter/EMt with Northrop Grumman.

6 years experience as a FF and no Military Experience.

Nyteryder
11-21-2009, 08:50 PM
If it's about money than any contract you get cross seas will be more than wat you would make in the military deployed

Firefightin_tC
11-21-2009, 08:54 PM
^^^ Word.

BluesClues
11-21-2009, 10:53 PM
I would have to say Air Force. The benefits are better, you are treated better, a great education, and easier to make more money.

FAM0U5
11-21-2009, 11:35 PM
If it's about money than any contract you get cross seas will be more than wat you would make in the military deployed

I would like to know more..

95alty
11-22-2009, 12:52 PM
I would have to say Air Force. The benefits are better, you are treated better, a great education, and easier to make more money.

LOL we all get payed the same... Same benefits.... Education is dependent on the systems but alot of us go to the same schools to save money. AND actually its easier to make money deploying then staying back and being a POG.:goodjob:

Just spitting knowledge

BluesClues
11-22-2009, 01:13 PM
LOL we all get payed the same... Same benefits.... Education is dependent on the systems but alot of us go to the same schools to save money. AND actually its easier to make money deploying then staying back and being a POG.:goodjob:

Just spitting knowledge
Well, I am basing this on what I've been told. With the Air Force, not only do you get regular pay, but you also get paid for living on base. They are treated better and even what someone else might consider "spoiled". The PTs are easier (compared to the Army) and less strict. I know a lil bit about the Army seeing as my mother just retired last month, so I would def not recommend joining the Army. I just know compared to it, the Air Force is a better option. I would also say, each service is based on what you feel you are more qualified to do and what all you are willing to do. If you are crazy or maybe even partially crazy, the Marines is for you! lol

FAM0U5
11-22-2009, 01:15 PM
Well, I am basing this on what I've been told. With the Air Force, not only do you get regular pay, but you also get paid for living on base. They are treated better and even what someone else might consider "spoiled". The PTs are easier (compared to the Army) and less strict. I know a lil bit about the Army seeing as my mother just retired last month, so I would def not recommend joining the Army. I just know compared to it, the Air Force is a better option. I would also say, each service is based on what you feel you are more qualified to do and what all you are willing to do. If you are crazy or maybe even partially crazy, the Marines is for you! lol

I am willing to do whatever to get the job done, if that makes me crazy then so be it.

jhadleyh
11-22-2009, 01:17 PM
Well, I am basing this on what I've been told. With the Air Force, not only do you get regular pay, but you also get paid for living on base. They are treated better and even what someone else might consider "spoiled". The PTs are easier (compared to the Army) and less strict. I know a lil bit about the Army seeing as my mother just retired last month, so I would def not recommend joining the Army. I just know compared to it, the Air Force is a better option. I would also say, each service is based on what you feel you are more qualified to do and what all you are willing to do. If you are crazy or maybe even partially crazy, the Marines is for you! lol



No you are incorrect you get BAH (basic allowance for housing) if you live off base. If you live on base you get nothing but the home they provide for you.

FAM0U5
11-22-2009, 01:19 PM
No you are incorrect you get BAH (basic allowance for housing) if you live off base. If you live on base you get nothing but the home they provide for you.

That is correct sir!

BABY J
11-22-2009, 01:19 PM
True. You don't get paid for living on base.

jhadleyh
11-22-2009, 01:20 PM
I would never want to live on base anyway. To many fucking rules.

FAM0U5
11-22-2009, 01:22 PM
I would never want to live on base anyway. To many fucking rules.

but it's something rather than nothing.

jhadleyh
11-22-2009, 01:23 PM
but it's something rather than nothing.


Ill sleep in muh truck.

FAM0U5
11-22-2009, 01:28 PM
Ill sleep in muh truck.

Bitch just agree with me, there is no need for you to have the last word.. dam terrorist. GOD! I mean allah, jeesh.
lol:ninja:

jhadleyh
11-22-2009, 01:29 PM
Bitch just agree with me, there is no need for you to have the last word.. dam terrorist. GOD! I mean allah, jeesh.
lol:ninja:




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