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DA-TEG90
11-19-2009, 11:58 AM
I was jw i recently tore my motor down after running a vortec charger with plans of gettin tuned asap and didnt have the time or cash..come to find out i broke the ring lands on #1 and #3 so im plan on goin for an all motor build for now while i build another...heres what i have go back in it..lmk if it would seem to be an ok build or make decent power..i was jw if anyyone thought the compression ratio would be to high and if the pistons would clear the head..lmk what you think and any suggestions

-1.7 gsr head
-ls a1 block w arp head studs
-ctr pistons w/ls rods and arp rod bolts
-blox dual valve springs
-blox stage 3 cams
-skunk 2 cam gears
-new lma
-converted to obd1
-chipped p28

Black4DrEK
11-19-2009, 12:37 PM
Sounds good..

Cant think of the compression numbers..rite now..

Black4DrEK
11-19-2009, 12:38 PM
It will deff. be high ill tell u that much!

DA-TEG90
11-19-2009, 01:09 PM
It will deff. be high ill tell u that much!
i think itlll be around 12.8 not too sure though

Jenson
11-19-2009, 06:37 PM
Assuming an 89mm crank, that combo should be 11.9CR.

NoWAyItZTOMmY
11-19-2009, 08:14 PM
use pr3 or itr pistons instead of those ctr

RBS
11-19-2009, 11:23 PM
ctr's, nooooooooooooo!!

DA-TEG90
11-20-2009, 09:34 AM
ctr's, nooooooooooooo!!
Whats wrong with using the ctrs?? jw

Black4DrEK
11-20-2009, 10:42 AM
^^ to high of compression.. with that build.. CTR would be good in lets say..hmmmm a B16 or straight LS not LSV.... ACTUALLY DO what you want.. but its gonna be alot..

Black4DrEK
11-20-2009, 10:43 AM
Its not like it WONT work..

TheChosenOne
11-20-2009, 02:29 PM
That shyt will be too high to run right on pump gas.

DA-TEG90
11-20-2009, 03:00 PM
thats what i was afraid of but thats ok.... i can get a good deal on race gas :D it doesnt see the road to much ne ways cuz i work 100 miles round trip so just the we's

DA-TEG90
11-20-2009, 03:01 PM
reps to all for info and comments

RBS
11-20-2009, 05:32 PM
the dome on the CTR's are just massive. in some builds it too massive, your valves will be making love to the pistons

Z U L8R
11-20-2009, 09:47 PM
if it's gonna be a fun car i'd turbo it. supercharged feels like n/a, yes it's boosted but it's not the same feeling as being in a turbo car..

n/a is just a lot of noise and not going anywhere...

sell the supercharger go turbo ftw

just my .02

Dave

YoshiFD3S
11-20-2009, 11:23 PM
if it's gonna be a fun car i'd turbo it. supercharged feels like n/a, yes it's boosted but it's not the same feeling as being in a turbo car..

n/a is just a lot of noise and not going anywhere...

sell the supercharger go turbo ftw

just my .02

Dave

Don't listen to this guy.

He doesn't know a thing about cars, or turbo's, or anything.

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAA

TommyD1919
11-21-2009, 10:45 PM
I think the power difference of having CTR pistons over P30 or ITR would not be worth the sacrifice of having to run 100 plus octane. Actually with your combo I would say there prob. wouldn't be much of a power difference anyways.

DA-TEG90
11-23-2009, 04:37 AM
if it's gonna be a fun car i'd turbo it. supercharged feels like n/a, yes it's boosted but it's not the same feeling as being in a turbo car..

n/a is just a lot of noise and not going anywhere...

sell the supercharger go turbo ftw

just my .02

Dave
haha... yea maybe a jackson...but have u ever driven one w a vortec??...ya makes power equal to that of a turbo and sounds alot better and its a whole lot more reliable....same thing i thought...

DA-TEG90
11-23-2009, 04:40 AM
I think the power difference of having CTR pistons over P30 or ITR would not be worth the sacrifice of having to run 100 plus octane. Actually with your combo I would say there prob. wouldn't be much of a power difference anyways. ya i broke the ring lands off the pistons that were in it and actually had gotten those for like next to nuthn soo thats y i was gonna try em...hopefully it wont be too much longer until i can find another block / head..
to build the hell outa it and boost it again

southside
11-23-2009, 07:07 AM
ya i broke the ring lands off the pistons that were in it and actually had gotten those for like next to nuthn soo thats y i was gonna try em...hopefully it wont be too much longer until i can find another block / head..
to build the hell outa it and boost it againYou can run CTRs I dont think 1.7L gsr heads have the same size combustion chamber as the 1.8L.But im not exactly sure I have seen 3 ls/v built with CTRs and they ran fine on pump gas,its all in the tuning if you really wanna be safe then sorry.

smote
11-23-2009, 08:02 AM
CTR PISTONS ARE TOO HEAVY. For the love of God, compression is not the only thing in the bottom end that contributes to horsepower. Look at all of the highest HP "oem" builds. They all use P30 pistons. Also, all that extra weight of those massive domes is not gonna be good with those weak ass LS rods. Dont turn it over about 7000-7500