Rotaries are amazing!

[JITB]

i drove my first rotary vehicle today...and i loved it!!:D:D:D

my next vehicle will def be rotary powered!

[redpanda]

how'd it drive?

[Elbow]

Yeah they are, the power band is incredible as is the sound.

[EJ25RUN]

i drove my first rotary vehicle today!

really? :???:

[HypnoToad]

ive driven a couple,there fun but i drove stock N/A ones.........so deff nothing special on power.

[G'd[UP]]

Yea rotaries are aweomse i loved my FC.

[eraser4g63]

I just sold mine, I miss it but I will post some pics of my new toy soon.

[JITB]

really? :???:

lol yea man..

it was a na 13b in a FB... but it felt so smooth!!!

[SeePlusPlus]

Want to buy my RX-8? I'll cut you a deal...

[JITB]

i cant afford it!

[On_Her_Face]

Only Rotary I will own will be pulled out of the car lol.

[SeePlusPlus]

Ha I can't either!

[Andy_013]

Rotaries are amazing especially in a 1300 lb racecar. :D

[silverDA]

whats all the fuss/

[DieselNuts]

Torque is too important to me to own a rotary

[dorin48]

Torque is too important to me to own a rotary


Lol, eraser needs to post his dyno sheet. I think it was what?? 255hp and 247tq? Broad ass powerband and insane power delivery.

[DeeAOne]

i wish i had torque..or even power for that matter. lol

im going 3 rotor in the 323. ;)

[87 Turbo II]

I really expected this much earlier from you haha. Yeah I have a 13B first gen, and now you see why I love it. rotaries do drive different than anything else, but they're not for everyone. I am a huge rotor lover though. You can drive mine sometime if you ever see me at a meet or something, just give me a shout.

[Big Baller]

Rotaries are amazing especially in a 1300 lb racecar. :D Everything is amazing in a 1300lb racecar, thats nothing that makes me want a Rotary


Torque is too important to me to own a rotary AMEN TO THAT


Lol, eraser needs to post his dyno sheet. I think it was what?? 255hp and 247tq? Broad ass powerband and insane power delivery. OH FUCKING SWEET 255HP AND 247TQ....you have to be kidding me....I made more torque than that last time I farted


You know whats amazing to drive....even better than a rotary I mean....a twin turbo LS1...thats amazing

[SeePlusPlus]

OH FUCKING SWEET 255HP AND 247TQ....you have to be kidding me....I made more torque than that last time I farted


Chris @ Esmeril has an RX-8 running at 490hp and 330ish ft lbs. And that's on a built Renesis. There are 3 rotors and 13b's putting out high torque as well. When put in a light car with a low center of gravity and 50/50 weight distribution, rotaries can perform admirably in racing conditions.
They also make pretty good dragcars...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Au7F2ttEXWU

[87 Turbo II]

Everything is amazing in a 1300lb racecar, thats nothing that makes me want a Rotary

AMEN TO THAT

OH FUCKING SWEET 255HP AND 247TQ....you have to be kidding me....I made more torque than that last time I farted


You know whats amazing to drive....even better than a rotary I mean....a twin turbo LS1...thats amazing

1.drive a rotary car
2.understand it's pros and cons
3.don't be a douche

I made a "To Do" list for you. I am rotary guy, but I am not the kind that bashes other, or is close minded. I am wiling to bet you haven't driven a rotary powered car, they put power down differently, and are quite nice IN THEIR OWN WAY. Why in fanboy-esque debates to people feel the need to hate the side their not on?

-Owning a Playstation does not mean you have to hate X-boxes
-Owning a Mac doesn't mean you have to hate windows
-Owning a Piston powered car doesn't mean you have to hate rotaries
-etc. & vice versa for all of the above

Why is there always a group of retards in any category that thinks you can't like both, or if you dislike one, why you would have to hate it? It's so stupid.

[Big Baller]

Chris @ Esmeril has an RX-8 running at 490hp and 330ish ft lbs. And that's on a built Renesis. There are 3 rotors and 13b's putting out high torque as well. When put in a light car with a low center of gravity and 50/50 weight distribution, rotaries can perform admirably in racing conditions.
They also make pretty good dragcars...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Au7F2ttEXWU

Sweet all things that can be accomplished with a piston engine. 490hp and 330ftlbs isnt even good when you compare it to honda much less and evo or sti motor. I would take a 3 rotor out of one of the old Kudzu cars but other than that you can keep that garbage

[green91]

They are a novelty item, not a practicality. Theres a reason essentially only one auto maker uses them and nobody else will touch them.

[SeePlusPlus]

Sweet all things that can be accomplished with a piston engine. 490hp and 330ftlbs isnt even good when you compare it to honda much less and evo or sti motor. I would take a 3 rotor out of one of the old Kudzu cars but other than that you can keep that garbage

I'd say almost 500hp is pretty good out of a 1.3L motor. Especially in race classes restricted by displacement right? it's hard to find a lighter engine with that much of a usable power band

[Big Baller]

1.drive a rotary car
2.understand it's pros and cons
3.don't be a douche

I made a "To Do" list for you. I am rotary guy, but I am not the kind that bashes other, or is close minded. I am wiling to bet you haven't driven a rotary powered car, they put power down differently, and are quite nice IN THEIR OWN WAY. Why in fanboy-esque debates to people feel the need to hate the side their not on?

-Owning a Playstation does not mean you have to hate X-boxes
-Owning a Mac doesn't mean you have to hate windows
-Owning a Piston powered car doesn't mean you have to hate rotaries
-etc. & vice versa for all of the above

Why is there always a group of retards in any category that thinks you can't like both, or if you dislike one, why you would have to hate it? It's so stupid.

You might want to get ready to put your foot in your fucking mouth.

1. Most of the reason I hate rotarys is there fanboy club and how fanatical all you people are about them. They aren't the greatest thing since sliced bread, at best they are a cool car culture novelty.

2. I've driven a lot and I do mean a lot of Rotary powered cars on track, everything from Caterhamesque replicas to 3rd Gen RX7s, all nice cars and well balanced but Ill take an RX7 with an LS1 anyday of the week, and don't waste my time with the "it thows off the balance" remark....because it doesn't.

3. It was a simple statement if you don't like it...I don't care

4. I don't hate rotaries....I mostly just hate the owners

5. If you are looking to go toe to toe with someone and challenge them with your vastly superior car knowledge you better pick someone else.

[Big Baller]

I'd say almost 500hp is pretty good out of a 1.3L motor. Especially in race classes restricted by displacement right? it's hard to find a lighter engine with that much of a usable power band

Name a race class that has a displacement limit and doesn't have an air inlet restrictor.

I really hate the displacement arguement who really cares if its 1.3 liters.

Its light and thats about the only thing good I really have to say about it.

[green91]

I'd say almost 500hp is pretty good out of a 1.3L motor. Especially in race classes restricted by displacement right? it's hard to find a lighter engine with that much of a usable power band

The 1.3L is a bit of a misnomer actually when compared to a standard internal combustion engine. Each rotor face has a displacement of .65L per rotation x 2 rotors = 1.3L per rotation. Now take your .65, and multiple by 6 faces = 3.9L. so by the same way a piston engine is calculated the 13b would actually be a 3.9L engine.

[87 Turbo II]

You might want to get ready to put your foot in your fucking mouth.

1. Most of the reason I hate rotarys is there fanboy club and how fanatical all you people are about them. They aren't the greatest thing since sliced bread, at best they are a cool car culture novelty.

2. I've driven a lot and I do mean a lot of Rotary powered cars on track, everything from Caterhamesque replicas to 3rd Gen RX7s, all nice cars and well balanced but Ill take an RX7 with an LS1 anyday of the week, and don't waste my time with the "it thows off the balance" remark....because it doesn't.

3. It was a simple statement if you don't like it...I don't care

4. I don't hate rotaries....I mostly just hate the owners

5. If you are looking to go toe to toe with someone and challenge them with your vastly superior car knowledge you better pick someone else.

Way to be a hyppocrite yourself and act like an ass because you think rotary owners are asses. You just come off as an ignorant douche, now I just realize youre a regular plain douche who does it on purpose cause you dislike the crowd.

I know LS1 7s perform amazingly and remain balanced. I am the Rx-7 owner you don't expect because I'm not a fucking retard like a vast majority of them. So don't bash the entire community like a jackass, there is a good group of people out there that aren't "in your face" rotary, I am one of them, so do guys like us a favor and cut the bullshit when you recognize it's there yourself, why give into a system that you dislike. The whole fight fire with fire mentality is stupid, all you'll do is burn down the house faster. fight fire with water, and be calm, and respectable, that way you don't look like the ass you just made yourself to be.I know the rotaries shortcommings and limits I do still like them, am I going to go around trying to convert people like I am a rotary Jahova's witness? no. Am I going to glorify their name as the engine to end all engine's? no. Am I going to pretend that there aren't better engines out there? Definitely not. Will I polish their public image up a hair and show how much I love them, well to an extent yes, but can you blame someone from praising what they own just a little bit?

In reguarding vastly superior car knowledge, I do not have that. I know what I know, and speak not on what I don't know, same as any other person, I don't know where you took me for someone who thinks they know more about cars as a whole than you.

[JITB]

Im not here to debate...but i am here to say i have a new appreciation for rotaries..and cant wait till i am able to get one.

[SeePlusPlus]

The 1.3L is a bit of a misnomer actually when compared to a standard internal combustion engine. Each rotor face has a displacement of .65L per rotation x 2 rotors = 1.3L per rotation. Now take your .65, and multiple by 6 faces = 3.9L. so by the same way a piston engine is calculated the 13b would actually be a 3.9L engine.


Interesting... I need to do some more homework maybe. I do stand by my statement that light is good, and so that is one thing rotaries do have over their similar piston powered counterparts.

Lots of hostility in this thread though

[Boosted FC]

I own both a Piston & a Rotary powered vehicle. Both have their cons & both have their pros.

[Master Shake]

is it true that rotaries are capable of running no rev limiter and it not hurt the motor? i've heard it before but never really thought about it.

example, could you use a rotary and rev to like 16k or something and it not blow up?

[Stormhammer]

I drove a Turbo2 FC once. Eh, the thing I liked the most of it was popping flames. That was about it.

[87 Turbo II]

is it true that rotaries are capable of running no rev limiter and it not hurt the motor? i've heard it before but never really thought about it.

example, could you use a rotary and rev to like 16k or something and it not blow up?

If you had the rotating assembly balanced out better than the factory does(factory balances the rotors with the counterweights in the flywheel like a wheel on a car, but the front and rear rotors and their respected counterweights aren't balanced for each other across the length of the eccentric shaft, and little things like the mass of the seals and such aren't taken into consideration, it's still good enough for the Rx-8 to hit 9k, but not 11k and up), and ran hardened stationary gears, as long as you could feed it oil and gasoline and cool it down it would keep revving yes. Ceramic seals that wear/weigh less and produce less friction would help too.

[Big Baller]

I am the Rx-7 owner you don't expect because I'm not a fucking retard like a vast majority of them.

Nope you are just like the rest and your un-dieing need to continue to defend rotaries by making long winded post where you repeat the same boring facts over and over again supports my theory.

[dorin48]

OH FUCKING SWEET 255HP AND 247TQ....you have to be kidding me....I made more torque than that last time I farted


You know whats amazing to drive....even better than a rotary I mean....a twin turbo LS1...thats amazing

Lol, the point was that the power and torque were balanced and it makes a lot of the torque before 7500 rpms unlike a honda. Like a piston engine that has good bore/stroke ratio. Thats what I ment. No one is going to tremble in fear of 250hp.

[G'd[UP]]

Need i say more??? lol I lvoe rotaries and piston motors but nothing will ever sound like the pure sex of a 20b.=)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIGr0Oo8je8&feature=player_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8S7gyB2a-DM&feature=player_embedded

[JITB]

20b just takes me to a happy place..

[G'd[UP]]

Yea its an awesome motor=) should check out the 4 rotor.

[JITB]

;38522353"]Yea its an awesome motor=) should check out the 4 rotor.

im not ready for the 4 rotor...:no:

[87 Turbo II]

Nope you are just like the rest and your un-dieing need to continue to defend rotaries by making long winded post where you repeat the same boring facts over and over again supports my theory.

of course I am going to defend what I own, they get a lot of bad rep from people who have never even touched one. That's so infuriating. I don't know what you drive but a quick look at your previous threads shows you selling a Mustang. Of course it'll piss you off when somebody who has never ever driven a Mustang starts saying that they can't handle for shit. I am not being a dick about it, I don't see how my behavior in this thread further develops a dislike towards rotary owners, I think you are just being close minded, and your twisted mental image of rotary owners as a whole makes you unable to see we don't all suck. No need to come in and just start up drama. If you don't like rotary engines, it's fine, don't own one, and live life.

[G'd[UP]]

lol yea most of us aren't. :lmfao:

[dorin48]

I dont own one..... i just blow the coolant seals out of em'. >_>

[Boosted FC]

This thread is going nowhere really quick.

[JITB]

This thread is going nowhere really quick.

lol rotary threads never do...

[Kevykev]

This thread is going nowhere really quick.

The dichotomy is what's doing it.

[Big Baller]

of course I am going to defend what I own, they get a lot of bad rep from people who have never even touched one. That's so infuriating. I don't know what you drive but a quick look at your previous threads shows you selling a Mustang. Of course it'll piss you off when somebody who has never ever driven a Mustang starts saying that they can't handle for shit. I am not being a dick about it, I don't see how my behavior in this thread further develops a dislike towards rotary owners, I think you are just being close minded, and your twisted mental image of rotary owners as a whole makes you unable to see we don't all suck. No need to come in and just start up drama. If you don't like rotary engines, it's fine, don't own one, and live life.

LOL yeah just a mustang, thats all I've ever owned...oh and

A vette
4 Subarus
4 240s
1 Supra
1 BMW
......the list is a little over 35 cars deep now....

While I have truly enjoyed watching you get bent out of shape because I don't like rotaries the truth of the matter is......I really don't care about you, rotaries or this thread, I only posted because I enjoy watching you guys get all wound up. Have a nice day....Rotard

[87 Turbo II]

LOL yeah just a mustang, thats all I've ever owned...oh and

A vette
4 Subarus
4 240s
1 Supra
1 BMW
......the list is a little over 35 cars deep now....

While I have truly enjoyed watching you get bent out of shape because I don't like rotaries the truth of the matter is......I really don't care about you, rotaries or this thread, I only posted because I enjoy watching you guys get all wound up. Have a nice day....Rotard

Wow someone has no life. I wonder what it's like to be so insecure about yourself you have to go watch people get bent out of shape. Whoever raped you must have gotten really deep. Over 35 cocks deep now I'd say.

[Big Baller]

Wow someone has no life. I wonder what it's like to be so insecure about yourself you have to go watch people get bent out of shape. Whoever raped you must have gotten really deep. Over 35 cocks deep now I'd say.

LOL, good luck with your little rotary project, anytime you want to bring it out and run for a couple bucks let me know...until then.....


Edit....LOL.....I just realized you are a cone dodger as well.....get a real hobby

[EJ25RUN]

lol yea man..

it was a na 13b in a FB... but it felt so smooth!!!

carb or FI?


I would take a 3 rotor out of one of the old Kudzu cars but other than that you can keep that garbage

Not even one of the Jim Downing ones?

[JITB]

carb or FI?



Not even one of the Jim Downing ones?

it was FI..

[hadouken]

Have a nice day....Rotard


wow.. that was an original...

what a douche bag...

[gottraction?]

wow what did i step into! well i want to send congrats to JITB on his first rotary drive! im not going to attack the piston person cause to each their own! i have owned everything from a 302 foxbody to a awd dsm and i have a 13b fb in my stable now! its damn sure not the fastest but one of the most amazing cars i have had my hands on! i have had about 13 of these things and have had only one of them blow ( actually it was a coolant seal).

[Big Baller]

carb or FI?



Not even one of the Jim Downing ones?

Downing was actually who I was thinking of when I said Kudzu, they know how to get it done when it come to spinning triangles inside of peanuts.

[Boosted FC]

Downing was actually who I was thinking of when I said Kudzu, they know how to get it done when it come to spinning triangles inside of peanuts.

:lmfao::lmfao: Although Downing does not build his motors. Our owner Rick Engman does. I still love your comment, it was hilarious.

[EJ25RUN]

Downing was actually who I was thinking of when I said Kudzu, they know how to get it done when it come to spinning triangles inside of peanuts.

I was actually refering to the early 80's IMSA RX-7. The Kudzu cars are overkill in this case.


:lmfao::lmfao: Although Downing does not build his motors. Our owner Rick Engman does. I still love your comment, it was hilarious.

Most race car driver/owners don't turn the wrenches themselves.

Downing is the #1 reason Mazda was successful in IMSA racing and it wasn't because he knew how to fix the motor but because he could bring a team together that could. Plus build the chassis, find sponcorship, and drive the car too.

You think Penske, Ginassi, Childress or anyone else worth a damn doesn't use an engine specialist?

[Master Shake]

If you had the rotating assembly balanced out better than the factory does(factory balances the rotors with the counterweights in the flywheel like a wheel on a car, but the front and rear rotors and their respected counterweights aren't balanced for each other across the length of the eccentric shaft, and little things like the mass of the seals and such aren't taken into consideration, it's still good enough for the Rx-8 to hit 9k, but not 11k and up), and ran hardened stationary gears, as long as you could feed it oil and gasoline and cool it down it would keep revving yes. Ceramic seals that wear/weigh less and produce less friction would help too.so pretty much as long as you could get the engine balanced out good enough and get the proper cooling then it could pretty much rev to the moon?(exaggeration, yes, but i think you get what i'm saying.)

[Boosted FC]

I was actually refering to the early 80's IMSA RX-7. The Kudzu cars are overkill in this case.



Most race car driver/owners don't turn the wrenches themselves.

Downing is the #1 reason Mazda was successful in IMSA racing and it wasn't because he knew how to fix the motor but because he could bring a team together that could. Plus build the chassis, find sponcorship, and drive the car too.

You think Penske, Ginassi, Childress or anyone else worth a damn doesn't use an engine specialist?

I'm sorry, I did not know I was replying to you. I was just giving him some polite info. Sorry if it offended you somehow.

[Elbow]

LOL I love rotary debates. Die hard rotary owners go ape shit and act like the rotary is some god made motor.

I love rotaries myself, especially at the track, a 400whp rotary is a FAST car, a 400whp V8 isn't as fast. They do put power down differently, I know a LOT of rotary road race guys, all real cool guys and all definitely not rotary fan boys.

[Me86Rob]

the 20bREW in the Eunos Cosmo supposedly makes 300ft/lbs at 1800 RPM. Thats impressive for anything

my wagon used to be rotary powered. I have people tell me all the time that they used to watch it at commerce run 11sec passes and toat the front tires. I wish i owned it then :(

[Elbow]

the 20bREW in the Eunos Cosmo supposedly makes 300ft/lbs at 1800 RPM. Thats impressive for anything

my wagon used to be rotary powered. I have people tell me all the time that they used to watch it at commerce run 11sec passes and toat the front tires. I wish i owned it then :(

Well damn I guess your wagon did use to be bad ass.

20B's are bad ass motors, especially in NA form.

[EJ25RUN]

I'm sorry, I did not know I was replying to you. I was just giving him some polite info. Sorry if it offended you somehow.

I guess i misunderstood your comment as one that talked down of Downing.

No offense. Just found it misleading.

[EJ25RUN]

the 20bREW in the Eunos Cosmo supposedly makes 300ft/lbs at 1800 RPM. Thats impressive for anything

my wagon used to be rotary powered. I have people tell me all the time that they used to watch it at commerce run 11sec passes and toat the front tires. I wish i owned it then :(

So you own Tomas' old wagon? That car's been through too many people since he had it.

[Me86Rob]

Well damn I guess your wagon did use to be bad ass.

20B's are bad ass motors, especially in NA form.

there are chunks of rubber on both my quarter pannels, and a nice thick lining of it in my rear fender wells too haha

[Me86Rob]

So you own Tomas' old wagon? That car's been through too many people since he had it.

lol yea. hahaha youve seen it run?

[EJ25RUN]

lol yea. hahaha youve seen it run?

Of course.

Me and Tomas used to be good friends when i lived in GA. His son has built some nice cars as well.

It's been many years since he's had it but he's had too many other Rotary Corollas in the mean time.

Does anyone know if he finished the TA72 Celica or sold it?

[Me86Rob]

Of course.

Me and Tomas used to be good friends when i lived in GA. His son has built some nice cars as well.

It's been many years since he's had it but he's had too many other Rotary Corollas in the mean time.

Does anyone know if he finished the TA72 Celica or sold it?

lucky. I wish i could have seen it run
idk anything about the guy though. so idk about his Celica

[Boosted FC]

I guess i misunderstood your comment as one that talked down of Downing.

No offense. Just found it misleading.

No Prob at all. Hopefully we can incorperate a tour of the Downing Facilities during our next Rotary Meet.

[JITB]

the 20bREW in the Eunos Cosmo supposedly makes 300ft/lbs at 1800 RPM. Thats impressive for anything

my wagon used to be rotary powered. I have people tell me all the time that they used to watch it at commerce run 11sec passes and toat the front tires. I wish i owned it then :(

i knew something drew me too your wagon... i couldnt put my finger on it..now i know...lol

[Me86Rob]

i knew something drew me too your wagon... i couldnt put my finger on it..now i know...lol
lol, its the exaust

[collins]

Torque is too important to me to own a rotary :goodjob:


Lol, eraser needs to post his dyno sheet. I think it was what?? 255hp and 247tq? Broad ass powerband and insane power delivery. at what, 6500rpm?


Everything is amazing in a 1300lb racecar, thats nothing that makes me want a Rotary

You know whats amazing to drive....even better than a rotary I mean....a twin turbo LS1...thats amazing both valid points


The 1.3L is a bit of a misnomer actually when compared to a standard internal combustion engine. Each rotor face has a displacement of .65L per rotation x 2 rotors = 1.3L per rotation. Now take your .65, and multiple by 6 faces = 3.9L. so by the same way a piston engine is calculated the 13b would actually be a 3.9L engine.
THANK YOU! someone else understands this.

I drove a Turbo2 FC once. Eh, the thing I liked the most of it was popping flames. That was about it.
popping flames is fun, no doubt!

[87 Turbo II]

so pretty much as long as you could get the engine balanced out good enough and get the proper cooling then it could pretty much rev to the moon?(exaggeration, yes, but i think you get what i'm saying.)

well you'd eventually reach a point where the flywheel and clutch wouldn't be able to take the stress of rotating and they'd shatter, but yes. There is a 3 rotor FC on youtube with a redline of 16K RPM. It's called the MPS Rx-7.

[Boosted FC]

well you'd eventually reach a point where the flywheel and clutch wouldn't be able to take the stress of rotating and they'd shatter, but yes. There is a 3 rotor FC on youtube with a redline of 16K RPM. It's called the MPS Rx-7.

That is one badass FC......:goodjob:

[UpSideDownDesi]

Great motors, i haven't played much with mine since i am planning to keep car to as close to factory condition, but i do plan on getting another one to play with. Some think Rotaries are freaking awesome motors, some think garbage, but same can be said about other motors. Some hate Subaru motors just for the fact it's more dollar per hp compared to evo...does it make it a bad motor? Some hate honda's for no TQ, bad motor? All motors have pro's and cons.

3 rotor, na, built, game over...even better 4 rotor.

[Sunkenkarma]

I miss torque with the 13b = (

[YoshiFD3S]

Rotaries suck..

I would NEVER own one.

Or two...

Or three...

Oh wai...

>_>

[man]

I owned one for a while (5 years) and honestly it was fun but nothing to brag about. But Big Baller, the LS1 comment is pretty unintelligent, not because it's wrong but because that statement could be said about ANY car (except for F-bodys and vettes)