Dan at Batlground

[Incontt]

His tuning was mentioned in another thread that is now closed and I wanted to make a comment about him.
I dynod once at his shop and buy methanol when I need it. I also buy c-16 most of the time from him when I need it. Other than that I have had no other business dealings with him and we dont owe each other anything. I always pick Dans brain when I see him and he has more tuning knowledge than anyone else I know. My car runs lower 9s and is tuned by myself. Yet I still learn SOMETHING from him every time I talk to him....enough to know that he has a much better grasp on tuning than I ever could. If I ever was going to have a car tuned and pay someone to do it, Dan would be at the top of the list. He has told me "i dont know" before when he could have bullshit me so that tells me he is pretty honest.
Anyway, my 2 cents about Dan andhis tuning knowledge

[yungdz]

what thread are you refering too?

[Evil Goat]

i donno about dan...im always too busy staring at tracy:D

[Incontt]

what thread are you refering too?

the whole btstone drama thread and a car that had a bumper catch on fire

[SleepingTalon]

Tuners in this country with any reputation, including guys down at Titan, John Shepherd, AMS, the guys from AEM, Vinny Ten, and countless others will all attest to Dan's knowledge/tuning capabilities. He puts a lot of science behind the things he does, and is probably one of the few people around here that actually has a background in engineering. (Dan has a degree from GA Tech) to back up the things he does. I've seen him tune ridiculously fast cars, from turbo Vipers, to full blown NSX race cars, to his own 8sec Supra. People fly him out of the country to tune cars regularly, so I think it's pretty safe to say that Dan is top of the food chain when it comes to tuning.

[B00STedSvT]

Tuners in this country with any reputation, including guys down at Titan, John Shepherd, AMS, the guys from AEM, Vinny Ten, and countless others will all attest to Dan's knowledge/tuning capabilities. He puts a lot of science behind the things he does, and is probably one of the few people around here that actually has a background in engineering. (Dan has a degree from GA Tech) to back up the things he does. I've seen him tune ridiculously fast cars, from turbo Vipers, to full blown NSX race cars, to his own 8sec Supra. People fly him out of the country to tune cars regularly, so I think it's pretty safe to say that Dan is top of the food chain when it comes to tuning.
Damn well said...

Bstone has no clue what the fuck he is talking about... Only thing he knows about on the engineering side of performance cars is to pull his wallet out and say "How much?" Bstone your a Joke and to attempt to salvage some of your pride You throw out accusations and insults to anyone you can regardless if its legitement or not...:2up:

[BABY J]

^^ In STONE'S defense there is nothing wrong w/ being a wallet-racer. I used to wrench - now I don't have to. LOL. When I did it, it was out of neccessity and I definitely love having the OPTION to get greasy or not.

BG has a good team over there IMO. Brandon is a good guy - knows a lot of shit about a lot of different cars, that's actually HARD (to master diff makes and models). I haven't had anything tuned up there but I will soon - just talked to Dan about that a coupla weeks ago. And I've been up there when he was tuning some sick shit. My .02.

[btstone]

Damn well said...

Bstone has no clue what the fuck he is talking about... Only thing he knows about on the engineering side of performance cars is to pull his wallet out and say "How much?" Bstone your a Joke and to attempt to salvage some of your pride You throw out accusations and insults to anyone you can regardless if its legitement or not...:2up:


i laugh eveytime you post......i hope i meet you one day to see the bitch you really are

[B00STedSvT]

i laugh eveytime you post......i hope i meet you one day to see the bitch you really areK...I will be there next thursday for sure then... *pulls a line from Bstones book* But hey dont approach me ok please? LoL Pussy ass Bitch:lmfao:

[B00STedSvT]

Whoa man this come back is gonna be soooo uber pwnage since its taking so long... Feeling a little slow today Brandon?

[Lankhoss]

Whoa man this come back is gonna be soooo uber pwnage since its taking so long... Feeling a little slow today Brandon?


Good call man


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[Motivation]

Dan is definitely a good guy and a good tuner. He is extremely knowledgable and when talking to him he never makes you feel like an idiot when you ask a question. I've had nothing but good run ins with Dan and will continue to direct everyone I know to him and his shop. Brandon also, (guy that works with him), is very knowledgable and a stand up guy.

[B00STedSvT]

Yea he left like a Puss.. I heard he's good at that

[-S Double C-]

whats this bstone guy do for a living? cause all i hear about it what he bought or has

[B00STedSvT]

I'm pretty convinced he's in the Gay porn Industry..

[Evil Goat]

whats this bstone guy do for a living? cause all i hear about it what he bought or has

he needs to buy some tires for that vette since he won't go get that honda....though he still couldn't hang with the single cam integra, let alone my sherman tank

[ueyedgr8tness]

LOL!! I am glad i didn't waste a trip going to riverside to see if he was going to punch lurker in the face like he said he was going to do.I mean he did say he was going to do it right? And every 1 that types on the internet keeps there word correct?


OH!! josh i want to sex yo car:yes: Not a big fan of the tanks but i teel u man yo car moves out:goodjob:

[Evil Goat]

OH!! josh i want to sex yo car:yes: Not a big fan of the tanks but i teel u man yo car moves out:goodjob:

thank you sir! reps coming your way :goodjob:

[MongolPup]

All I know is that Dan shoots Care Bears.

[Incontt]

Dan also beheads gummy bears before he eats them....i didnt say the man was perfect

[btstone]

whats this bstone guy do for a living? cause all i hear about it what he bought or has

i pimp out boostedsvt's wife. she helps me pay for everything

its still not enough though,...boosted doesnt realize the countless hours i have spent installing my motors and and drivetrain.....i dont like doing that shit, but i do it. boosted needs to get his wife in line. she is not bringing in what she used to

[Tracy]

His tuning was mentioned in another thread that is now closed and I wanted to make a comment about him.
I dynod once at his shop and buy methanol when I need it. I also buy c-16 most of the time from him when I need it. Other than that I have had no other business dealings with him and we dont owe each other anything. I always pick Dans brain when I see him and he has more tuning knowledge than anyone else I know. My car runs lower 9s and is tuned by myself. Yet I still learn SOMETHING from him every time I talk to him....enough to know that he has a much better grasp on tuning than I ever could. If I ever was going to have a car tuned and pay someone to do it, Dan would be at the top of the list. He has told me "i dont know" before when he could have bullshit me so that tells me he is pretty honest.
Anyway, my 2 cents about Dan andhis tuning knowledgeWell that was nice of you :)

[BABY J]

Dan did break into my house once yesterday, shot me in the back w/ a Gloc, raped my grandmom and sold her into slavery... but there is no point in me bringing up old shit. I prob had it coming anyway for breaking some1s crayon in 2nd grade.

[Tracy]

http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-sf2p/v181/92/20/894935524/n894935524_2272756_1175.jpg

[BABY J]

http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-sf2p/v181/92/20/894935524/n894935524_2272756_1175.jpg

YUP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


THAT'S THE GUY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And what a coward to break in while I was asleep --- b/c had I been awake it would have been a different outcome:

http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u59/MUSIC_MAESTRO/ELIMINATOR.jpg
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http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u59/MUSIC_MAESTRO/ELIMINATOR3.jpg



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I sure do miss my grandma tho :(

[Tracy]

YUP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


THAT'S THE GUY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And what a coward to break in while I was asleep --- b/c had I been awake it would have been a different outcome:

http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u59/MUSIC_MAESTRO/ELIMINATOR.jpg
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http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u59/MUSIC_MAESTRO/ELIMINATOR3.jpg



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I sure do miss my grandma tho :(

LOL! We need to go to the range together sometime. Not with that tjing though!

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&VideoID=27050314

Dan does tactical shooting now, but he has no one to go with him.

[BABY J]

I'm game. I've got some hardware that he'd love to take out.


wait.


NOHOMO

[BABY J]

LMFAO!!!! You got owned on Take 2. BWA BW ABWBAWAWBWABWABZ LOL.

[B00STedSvT]

i pimp out boostedsvt's wife. she helps me pay for everything

its still not enough though,...boosted doesnt realize the countless hours i have spent installing my motors and and drivetrain.....i dont like doing that shit, but i do it. boosted needs to get his wife in line. she is not bringing in what she used to
I LoL'ed cause Bstone apparently thinks i'm married... Save all that "Badass'ness" for Thursday sweet cheeks.

[David88vert]

I have a lot of experience with modified rotarys. I can say without a shadow of a doubt that his tune is not what caught the bumper on fire. It is a common issue for any modified rotary, and some stock ones as well. Rotarys need a lot of fuel, and on decel, they dump a lot of fuel into an extremely hot exhaust.

As for Dan's tunes, I've only seen one tune from him that didn't seem to work 100% perfectly, and I've seen several from him, and that car has definitely been a basket case since before he improved it. He is an excellent tuner IMO.

[Vteckidd]

Dan also beheads gummy bears before he eats them....i didnt say the man was perfect

LOL thats the funniest thing i read all day haha.


Dan doesnt need to be defended in tuning IMO, ive always said he was a great tuner. If he doesnt know something he doesnt bullshit you he will say "i dont know" and then if its something major he will do countless hours of research to learn more about the subject.

Hes very methodical and complex even though people may not know that about him. Most people think hes just standoffish and not social, but he likes to focus and get the job done and not fuck around. Customers should appreciate that.

As far as Btstones claim, i was there, and not to brag but im pretty confident in my honda abilities. There was DEFINITELY a MECHANICAL VTEC problem with you car man. You had OIL PRESSURE, AEM was swtiching into VTEC and the solenoid had power. The Pins were NOT locking for whatever reason. Top Speed had the same problem before you came to us.

Youve always claimed that it was a bad tune when we only had the car for 1 hour and at that point after we did all the diagnostics that we discussed on the phone before you ever came in, i told you it was mechanical. You were charged 1 hour (which was also previously discussed) and the car was let go back into your possesion.

almost a year later i saw you at Mainstream and the car was being tuned by turbo dave. It apparently hit VTEC then, and you were visibly upset with me for some reason even though i was just the front office guy.

In person you are cool and you are not an idiot. You know the deal and im sure you know enough about cars to know that Dan was not at fault for anything. If it was some mystical problem that fixed itself, hey stranger things have happened.

Dans resume speaks for itself.

[JJSPEC Racing]

Last year I used Dan to tune one of the cars that our shop had done some work to(MR2). He did a good job on it as I drove the car 2.5 hours back to Macon under different conditions and the tune up felt nice. I learned from him also. If you are in business there are going to be haters and that is just the way it is.

[btstone]

Vteckidd. I assure you there was no problem. Nothing was done to the car between batlground attempt time and inline pro tune.

[Vteckidd]

Vteckidd. I assure you there was no problem. Nothing was done to the car between batlground attempt time and inline pro tune.

ill take your word for it, i cant speak for Batlground as i no longer work for them, but sorry we couldnt figure it out when you were there

[MongolPup]

http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-sf2p/v181/92/20/894935524/n894935524_2272756_1175.jpg

I knew if I mentioned it you'd post it! Score.

[Evil Goat]

Vteckidd. I assure you there was no problem. Nothing was done to the car between batlground attempt time and inline pro tune.

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e343/civic2n2000/pinks_vtec_not_working.jpg

[MongolPup]

Dude's fucking shirt says "well hung" ahhahaha

[Lurker]

Dan might doing a little tune on my car inthe near future.

[BABY J]

Dude's fucking shirt says "well hung" ahhahaha

GAWT DAMN RIGHT :D

[Alan®]

Dan is very good at what hes done. I've seen first hands what can be done in his very capable hands from a friend of mine that brought first his sc300 to them and now his supra. and every time I have talked to him I always walked away from the conversation with more knowledge than i went into it with.

[Tracy]

Vteckidd. I assure you there was no problem. Nothing was done to the car between batlground attempt time and inline pro tune.So all this drama because Dan said your Vtec wasn't working and charged you 1 hour of labor? So, petty. Not like he blew your car up. Not like he overcharged you. Instead he said he couldn't get it to work, charged you an hour for his time and sent you on your way. Then you spend months telling anyone who will listen that Dan's tune caused your friends bumper to catch on fire (LOL). If I were you, I might apologize for your ignorance. Then maybe we'd feel inclined to apologize for the hour Dan spent on your car trying to figure out your Vtec.....LOL. Yes I said trying to figure out your Vtec. Gawd that is hilarious considering the situation. Dan has tuned big powered cars for years and here you are being a brat about your Vtec.

To everyone else, I'm sure Dan appreciates the thread. I'll make sure he sees it.

[Evil Goat]

every time I have talked to him I always walked away from the conversation with more knowledge than i went into it with.

isn't it like that with pretty much every conversation you have with anyone?

[btstone]

So all this drama because Dan said your Vtec wasn't working and charged you 1 hour of labor? So, petty. Not like he blew your car up. Not like he overcharged you. Instead he said he couldn't get it to work, charged you an hour for his time and sent you on your way. Then you spend months telling anyone who will listen that Dan's tune caused your friends bumper to catch on fire (LOL). If I were you, I might apologize for your ignorance. Then maybe we'd feel inclined to apologize for the hour Dan spent on your car trying to figure out your Vtec.....LOL. Yes I said trying to figure out your Vtec. Gawd that is hilarious considering the situation. Dan has tuned big powered cars for years and here you are being a brat about your Vtec.

To everyone else, I'm sure Dan appreciates the thread. I'll make sure he sees it.

please shut the fuck up

[Tracy]

please shut the fuck upThe please was a nice gesture. The rest leaves something to be desired. Don't worry, we'll meet one day and you can ask me that again face to face. Maybe it will work out better for you that way. Tell your brother MyLittlePony I said what's up in the meantime ;)

[Brick]

http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-sf2p/v181/92/20/894935524/n894935524_2272756_1175.jpg

Forget his tuning, someone needs to remind him to point that shit down range and get his finger off the trigger until he's ready to shoot. :D

[Incontt]

what you dont see is tracy hanging there over to the side...bound and gagged...about to be pistol whipped...a fetish thing...go Dan...woot!

[Lurker]

what you dont see is tracy hanging there over to the side...bound and gagged...about to be pistol whipped...a fetish thing...go Dan...woot!


Shit, she is below the pic. Why do you think Dan is smiling!

[speedminded]

A stock rotary blows flames and modded ones are fireballs waiting to happen.

http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/4644/74073745qf3.jpg

[Lurker]

^^^Holy fuck!

[Batlground]

Thanks for the kind words everyone. Some things are just best not to reply to. :D

[btstone]

yeah, you have plenty of nut riders. ill give you that

[Batlground]

yeah, you have plenty of nut riders. ill give you that

Good work speaks through its customers.

[JJSPEC Racing]

yeah, you have plenty of nut riders. ill give you that

Not a nut rider here. I have my own shop and I have dealt with Dan in the past and he performed a service for me. That is all.

[btstone]

Good work speaks through its customers.

you are correct, and inline pro can def do some great work

[Batlground]

you are correct, and inline pro can def do some great work

Its a great thing that me and inline pro are all friends and we both do great work. Me and Jeremy (Allen Built from Inline Pro) were hotel room mates when we were tech inspectors for NOPI. Yea, we were gay.

[btstone]

maybe you can pick up a few pointers :)

[Tracy]

A stock rotary blows flames and modded ones are fireballs waiting to happen.

http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/4644/74073745qf3.jpgHOLY COW!!!!1!111!!


Its a great thing that me and inline pro are all friends and we both do great work. Me and Jeremy (Allen Built from Inline Pro) were hotel room mates when we were tech inspectors for NOPI. Yea, we were gay.
It's Jeremy and I. GAWD. I hate your grammar. I also hated it when I had to hear all of those gay stories from you and Jeremy for all of those months. Thank goodness that is over. I wonder if Jeremy knows I wear his T-shirts to bed at night????? That's about all they are good for. o0o0o0o0o burn! JK :D

[BABY J]

EL OH EL

[Alan®]

isn't it like that with pretty much every conversation you have with anyone?

Nah there are some pretty stupid people out there posing as encyclopedias on any given topic.

[AllTheDude]

GT grads don't need grammer. Hell half of them don't even speak english.

[B18c1Turboed]

DAmm B stone is an idiot!!!

[FAM0U5]

BG is the best place to get your stuff done period, they helped me more than they should they got my car running even with other people mistakes on top of that.. and Dan maybe blunt with things but it's the truth. SOOO shut the fuck up if you have nothing nice to say, have a good day sir.. Mr. BS.

[Lurker]

GT grads don't need grammer. Hell half of them don't even speak english.


Or grammar...

[BABY J]

^^ LOL

[btstone]

BG is the best place to get your stuff done period, they helped me more than they should they got my car running even with other people mistakes on top of that.. and Dan maybe blunt with things but it's the truth. SOOO shut the fuck up if you have nothing nice to say, have a good day sir.. Mr. BS.

well im glad he fixed yours...he couldnt with mine...so you should shut the fuck up sir. keep to the whoreslounge and spitting e-game at fat chics

[btstone]

DAmm B stone is an idiot!!!

from a guy with a turbo civic :gay:

[SmackedInATL]

from a guy with a turbo civic :gay:

So what does that make you with a turbo S2000?

[Nemesis]

So what does that make you with a turbo S2000?

a connoisseur lol

[FAM0U5]

well im glad he fixed yours...he couldnt with mine...so you should shut the fuck up sir. keep to the whoreslounge and spitting e-game at fat chics

Just cause he couldn't figure out a problem, and charged you his time to diagnose your car you get pissed? other than that you have nothing else to say aganist Dan.

Oh the whole WL thing nice try.. you were better off saying "Hey faggot quit hanging from under my cheese and get back into the red sea that you swim in on the daily, since all the bitches you talk to/hit on are all on their fucking rag 24/7 so drink your kool-aid that you get out of their vag and get back to your area that you dwell in cause I hear two of your bitches are getting out of line and taking the lime light away from evan and you know that boy needs all the attention he can get since bri cant give him that since you she busy doing, well you know the rest..."

EDIT: but B Stone you get A for effort.

[TIGERJC]

How can someone be a cheerleader for a shop that can't get your car running properly for at least a year

[FAM0U5]

How can someone be a cheerleader for a shop that can't get your car running properly for at least a year

who are you talking about?

[TIGERJC]

who are you talking about?
Talking about bstone always praising inline pro, I would be pissed if I spent all that money and my car still isnt drivable

[FAM0U5]

Talking about bstone always praising inline pro, I would be pissed if I spent all that money and my car still isnt drivable

That is something to think about.. hmmm

[TIGERJC]

I just think he is bashing the wrong shop, catlground had the car for 1 hour, while inline pro had it for 365 days

[Glides]

well im glad he fixed yours...he couldnt with mine...so you should shut the fuck up sir. keep to the whoreslounge and spitting e-game at fat chics

I got to say man, without a doubt you do nothing but spit hate and how much money you make and got. I'm going to give you a thumbs up and a virtual cookie since it seems someone has not done that for you and that is why you are so nasty to everyone. You need love.

[B18c1Turboed]

from a guy with a turbo civic :gay:

Yup and running!!! And sitting in my garage!! I swear you talk so much bullshit I think your mouth is your asshole as much shit that comes out of it!

[BABY J]

I got to say man, without a doubt you do nothing but spit hate and how much money you make and got. I'm going to give you a thumbs up and a virtual cookie since it seems someone has not done that for you and that is why you are so nasty to everyone. You need love.

LMFAO

[Tracy]

GT grads don't need grammer. Hell half of them don't even speak english.LOLOLOL. Good point.

[Tracy]

DAmm B stone is an idiot!!!I'm cringing as I say this, but I think you and have been getting along for a while now and this just sealed the deal for me.:goodjob:

[The Creeper]

About damn time someone posted a thread praising a shop, and not bashing them. From what I have seen, BG seems like a good shop.

[BABY J]

They took the VTEC off of my car w/out telling me. Never going there again. I needed that shit on the way home.

[Lurker]

from a guy with a turbo civic :gay:


Making fun of turbo Honda's when you drive a turbo Honda = priceless!

[Incontt]

Lurker thats BS....Btstone isnt driving a turbod honda..he does own one tho

[Lurker]

Lurker thats BS....Btstone isnt driving a turbod honda..he does own one tho


Lol tru

[btstone]

I got to say man, without a doubt you do nothing but spit hate and how much money you make and got. I'm going to give you a thumbs up and a virtual cookie since it seems someone has not done that for you and that is why you are so nasty to everyone. You need love.
wrong guy. i never brag about money. money is jut paper

[Glides]

wrong guy. i never brag about money. money is jut paper

You are right. I just missed all this I guess.


you dont even wanna comapare how deep pockets go. you are a fucking joke. mr mod with all your powers..lol



so you parents hooked you up. i gotchu. no harm in that. tell you dad to call me to talk about money. you bitch ass needs to go find a seat in the playground at mcdonalds.

me and your dad can compare watches. i know you cant even speak to me about big boy shit that i wear on back


i like my s2000 even though i have spent WAY too much money on it and its always broke. i didnt buy them to feel successful. i could go buy a used gallardo if i wanted.

You didn't start it there, but you certainly fed into it. But you did brag about what you have to rebutt his conversation.

But don't get mad man, it's all good. Just go out and hug someone. Don't be shy, just wrap em up and say "Thank you for being right here, where you are so that I can hug you"

Your day will be brighter. I promise you. :goodjob:

[btstone]

LOL. all i did was let him know he wasnt the only one that had money. he was trying to put my boy down so i stepped in and let him know i could step on him if i wanted. no bragging, i just let him know what was up. money doesnt make you, it could be gone tomorrow. so find some new quotes there, no one is mad. i def dont need a hug from a dumb ass

[Tracy]

OH. Glides a dumb ass? Uh oh. His tongue is sharper than mine. I see this gettin ugly now.

[btstone]

OH. Glides a dumb ass? Uh oh. His tongue is sharper than mine. I see this gettin ugly now.

lol, i never knew your tongue was sharp.

[Tracy]

lol, i never knew your tongue was sharp.

That's because you are a noob and I have been on better behavior in the past few years :) but if you need a hug, I don't hold grudges. Hit me up. I won't tell anyone. PM.

[btstone]

That's because you are a noob and I have been on better behavior in the past few years :) but if you need a hug, I don't hold grudges. Hit me up. I won't tell anyone. PM.

aww, thanks. but you guys already lost me as a customer. so u lost the hug as well.

[Tracy]

aww, thanks. but you guys already lost me as a customer. so u lost the hug as well.I think what happened was for the best. We don't want to have to deal with noobs who don't understand that Rotaries have backfiring issues. When they are that uninformed, it's only downhill from there and there just isn't much time at our shop for people like that. That's why when Dan tested your Vtec with the meter and it didn't trigger, he said lata, we didn't build the car. Rather than charging you for ALL of the time he looked at your car, he charged you the minimum and sent you on your way. I think that was pretty nice.

So now that that's out of the way, I am going to offer an olive branch for the first and last time. I'm trying to be nice here. No one ripped you off. No one hurt your car. You're just being silly, really. But I am totally one to get silly, too, so if you're having fun, then so am I. It's up to you.

[Vteckidd]

That's because you are a noob and I have been on better behavior in the past few years :) but if you need a hug, I don't hold grudges. Hit me up. I won't tell anyone. PM.

True storey she hugged me so there's hope for btstone yet


It's not tracys tongue you have go watch out for, it's her backhand

[btstone]

thats what you dont understand. you keep posting and you have no clue. when my vtec was tested it did trigger. everything was working, except the tune. im not mad about the money, You keep bringing that up. I was upset because i wasted my time taking it up there and was told he was the shit and blah blah and i was let down. as a customer it sucks. you keep trying to defend your business, which is fine, but you obviously dont know fact or you are getting told worng info.

PS- why the fuck would it matter if i know how a rotory works? i will never own one or drive one. they fucking suck. and i also have never known anyone with a rotory to set the bumper on fire but the guy that has his car tuned by yall. but i have heard many complaints about his tunes. so it doesnt matter. its over and done. stop bringing up old shit tracy. the only time i ever bring this shit is up is when someone else does, then you keep dragging dumb shit in the thread

[Tracy]

thats what you dont understand. you keep posting and you have no clue. when my vtec was tested it did trigger. everything was working, except the tune. im not mad about the money, You keep bringing that up. I was upset because i wasted my time taking it up there and was told he was the shit and blah blah and i was let down. as a customer it sucks. you keep trying to defend your business, which is fine, but you obviously dont know fact or you are getting told worng info.

PS- why the fuck would it matter if i know how a rotory works? i will never own one or drive one. they fucking suck. and i also have never known anyone with a rotory to set the bumper on fire but the guy that has his car tuned by yall. but i have heard many complaints about his tunes. so it doesnt matter. its over and done. stop bringing up old shit tracy. the only time i ever bring this shit is up is when someone else does, then you keep dragging dumb shit in the thread

No, you keep bringing up old shit. So no olive branch, huh? Allllright then.

p.s. I didn't make this thread defending our business. Notice that yet?

[Vteckidd]

Again I know how vtec works and I was there with dan.

Solenoid had power
oil pressure was over 60 psi
speedo was working
ect was normal
aem was switching into vtec but the car wasn't

I know for a fact all that was done and tested. I refuse to believe that dan Brandon and me could do all that then you take it to inline pro and everything is perfect

your timeline is off too

but like I said it's cool I wouldn't hold a grudge against bg they did nothing wrong

[btstone]

No, you keep bringing up old shit. So no olive branch, huh? Allllright then.

no, i dont want one, dont need one. you just need to drop it and let it go. you lost a customer. big deal

[Vteckidd]

Btstone your vtec was NOT triggering. Read post above

[btstone]

Again I know how vtec works and I was there with dan.

Solenoid had power
oil pressure was over 60 psi
speedo was working
ect was normal
aem was switching into vtec but the car wasn't

I know for a fact all that was done and tested. I refuse to believe that dan Brandon and me could do all that then you take it to inline pro and everything is perfect

your timeline is off too

but like I said it's cool I wouldn't hold a grudge against bg they did nothing wrong

im not holding a grudge. i just owuld not reccomend their shop or use them. and YES MIKE, I DID NOTHING TO THE CAR AND INLINE PRO TUNED IT FINE. its a fact. i cant help you dont understand that or refuse to. but what ever

[btstone]

Btstone your vtec was NOT triggering. Read post above

well the solenoid was. i remember yall making it click on and off. so maybe im missing something

[Tracy]

no, i dont want one, dont need one. you just need to drop it and let it go. you lost a customer. big dealBro, you need to let it go. You keep bringing it up. I would have no idea about your car or the rotary if you never said anything here about it. If I see you bring it up again, I'm calling you on it—mostly because YOU just said to drop it. AND I will recall this post. So, I'm going to leave it alone from here on out, but like I said, best believe, if I see you mention it again, then it will start right back up. We'll see soon enough who can't let it go and it ain't me.

[btstone]

Bro, you need to let it go. You keep bringing it up. I would have no idea about your car or the rotary if you never said anything here about it. If I see you bring it up again, I'm calling you on it—mostly because YOU just said to drop it. AND I will recall this post. So, I'm going to leave it alone from here on out, but like I said, best believe, if I see you mention it again, then it will start right back up. We'll see soon enough who can't let it go and it ain't me.

OH NO!, dont bring up an old post:lmfao:

[Vteckidd]

well the solenoid was. i remember yall making it click on and off. so maybe im missing something

Way vtec works (I'm not talking down more like talking out loud)

oil pressure must be over 55 psi
engine coolant temp must be over 140'f. Iirc
speedo must operate (vss signal)
solenoid must get 12 volt signal

If all those work car will hit vtec. Basically aem reads all those factors then tells the solenoid to open at 55psi and xxxx rpm to switch into vtec. Oil pressure basically gets released when the solenoid opens down rocker shafts that move pins into position to lock in the vtec lobe on the cam. Yours wasn't doing that.
yOur car wouldn't switch at all. Even though all the above was working. We put a constant 12 volt to you solenoid to get it to manually open it clicked meanig the solenoid was working. Aem was switching from lo cam to high cam so aem was fine. Oil pressure was fine

that means there was something mechanical not operating. Like the vtec rocker arm/pins . At that point I told you I didn't know enough about s2000 heads to know what activated like a b series. B series is rocker arm driven wih pins s2000 and k series is roller rocker. At least I was honest but like I said it was definetly mechanical.

If that mechanical problem fixes itself I agree weird but not the weirdest thing I have ever seen. I don't think you got ripped off I think it was just something that We diagnosed , didn't find the problem in an hour and you left

[Glides]

thats what you dont understand. you keep posting and you have no clue. when my vtec was tested it did trigger. everything was working, except the tune. im not mad about the money, You keep bringing that up. I was upset because i wasted my time taking it up there and was told he was the shit and blah blah and i was let down. as a customer it sucks. you keep trying to defend your business, which is fine, but you obviously dont know fact or you are getting told worng info.

PS- why the fuck would it matter if i know how a rotory works? i will never own one or drive one. they fucking suck. and i also have never known anyone with a rotory to set the bumper on fire but the guy that has his car tuned by yall. but i have heard many complaints about his tunes. so it doesnt matter. its over and done. stop bringing up old shit tracy. the only time i ever bring this shit is up is when someone else does, then you keep dragging dumb shit in the thread

Well. My 340 wheel hp FD melted a nice portion of the paint off of the bumber after some very spirited driving up on the Dragons Tail. It happens. EVERYONE knows Rotaries are the kings of tail pipe flames. Your friend didn't and blamed the tune. It's not the tune, it's the motor. If you notice, most put the end of the pipe a good bit past the bumper so that sort of thing doesn't happen. Specially with bigger and freer flowing exhausts on them.

Batlground tuned my Squirt on my Corolla up there. Not a single problem. You keep saying that you have heard many complaints about his tunes but it seems the only one I see complaining is you. Perhaps your can get your friends (Imaginary ones do not count..tsk tsk) and have them come here and tell their own personal horror stories about their tunes. Because we all know how the Jailhouse Grapevine likes to distort things. Just watch Johnny Dangerously. But just remember, you called everyone defending Dan...what was it...oh yea. "Nut Swingers". So if your friends come up here and defend what you are saying, does that make them "Nut Swingers" as well? And yea .....they lost a customer, but honestly, if this is what they can expect from you.....I don't think it's gonna hurt them all that much.

Until then, it's a He said, She said and then He yelled, sort of argument. You had a bad experience there, well that stinks! I can agree and attest to having bad experiences and boy let me tell you, I wanted to rush out and tell everyone that me and all my friends had a shit time there and don't ever go there again and believe you me, I wanted to write 35 posts on an internet forum, call people names and curse and just generally run amock.


But I didn't. ;)

[Vteckidd]

The timeline seems off to me but I'm sure you can fill me in and correct me

car goes to topspeed, vtec issues
car goes to batlground, vtec issues
I see you a year later at mainstream/turbodave car hits vtec blows headgasket

then you went to inline pro.

Are you telling me after batlground and before mainstream/turbodave you went to inline pro with nothing changed as it left bg andit hit vtec? Then why take it to turbodave ?

Never made sense to me.

[btstone]

Well. My 340 wheel hp FD melted a nice portion of the paint off of the bumber after some very spirited driving up on the Dragons Tail. It happens. EVERYONE knows Rotaries are the kings of tail pipe flames. Your friend didn't and blamed the tune. It's not the tune, it's the motor. If you notice, most put the end of the pipe a good bit past the bumper so that sort of thing doesn't happen. Specially with bigger and freer flowing exhausts on them.

Batlground tuned my Squirt on my Corolla up there. Not a single problem. You keep saying that you have heard many complaints about his tunes but it seems the only one I see complaining is you. Perhaps your can get your friends (Imaginary ones do not count..tsk tsk) and have them come here and tell their own personal horror stories about their tunes. Because we all know how the Jailhouse Grapevine likes to distort things. Just watch Johnny Dangerously. But just remember, you called everyone defending Dan...what was it...oh yea. "Nut Swingers". So if your friends come up here and defend what you are saying, does that make them "Nut Swingers" as well? And yea .....they lost a customer, but honestly, if this is what they can expect from you.....I don't think it's gonna hurt them all that much.

Until then, it's a He said, She said and then He yelled, sort of argument. You had a bad experience there, well that stinks! I can agree and attest to having bad experiences and boy let me tell you, I wanted to rush out and tell everyone that me and all my friends had a shit time there and don't ever go there again and believe you me, I wanted to write 35 posts on an internet forum, call people names and curse and just generally run amock.


But I didn't. ;)

well, all i did was post my bad expeirance ALONG time ago and ppl started bashing me saying crazy stuff. so thats where all the insults came. i simply posted a bad experience and all thr "nut swingers" started swinging and insulted me so did my usual knock out and that was that. i didnt care about the 150$ or what ever he charged me. i am a concumer. i wanted a tune. He was the man. he didnt deliver. simple as that. thats all i said. i got insulted so i started to join the monkey and throw shit back. i think the shop my car is at would think im a very good customer. if i am done right then i will rep that shop tremendously. i felt i was let down. i told my experiance and look how it got blown out of proportion.

[Glides]

OH. Glides a dumb ass? Uh oh. His tongue is sharper than mine. I see this gettin ugly now.


I'm still waiting for our "Midnight Rendezvous". I'm also going to assume that Dan skips over all of my posts so that when I proposition you, he is completely in the dark as to the comings and goings of our secret love affair. :ninja:

[btstone]

The timeline seems off to me but I'm sure you can fill me in and correct me

car goes to topspeed, vtec issues
car goes to batlground, vtec issues
I see you a year later at mainstream/turbodave car hits vtec blows headgasket

then you went to inline pro.

Are you telling me after batlground and before mainstream/turbodave you went to inline pro with nothing changed as it left bg andit hit vtec? Then why take it to turbodave ?

Never made sense to me.

no. i took it to INline pro right after battle ground and put down 470whp. a year later i had changed turbos and and turbo kits and didnt wanna go all the way back to DC to get the car tuned. so ppl told me turbo dave could do it....which he fucked my stuff up. so i had to take it back to inline pro where i put down 650whp on the stock motor. now its totally diff again and i had only 1 option....take it to inline pro because i have no faith in any of the shops in ATL...no offense

[Glides]

well, all i did was post my bad expeirance ALONG time ago and ppl started bashing me saying crazy stuff. so thats where all the insults came. i simply posted a bad experience and all thr "nut swingers" started swinging and insulted me so did my usual knock out and that was that. i didnt care about the 150$ or what ever he charged me. i am a concumer. i wanted a tune. He was the man. he didnt deliver. simple as that. thats all i said. i got insulted so i started to join the monkey and throw shit back. i think the shop my car is at would think im a very good customer. if i am done right then i will rep that shop tremendously. i felt i was let down. i told my experiance and look how it got blown out of proportion.


Hey man, nothing wrong with feeling that a goodd job was not done and voicing your opinion. The only problem with usual "Knock Outs" is that they are never usual and always go on and on....like this one is. :(

[Big Baller]

no, i dont want one, dont need one. you just need to drop it and let it go. you lost a customer. big deal

Sometimes the best customers are the ones you don't have. You are a fucking idiot and I think most shops would happily pay to not have you as a customer.

[Vteckidd]

no. i took it to INline pro right after battle ground and put down 470whp. a year later i had changed turbos and and turbo kits and didnt wanna go all the way back to DC to get the car tuned. so ppl told me turbo dave could do it....which he fucked my stuff up. so i had to take it back to inline pro where i put down 650whp on the stock motor. now its totally diff again and i had only 1 option....take it to inline pro because i have no faith in any of the shops in ATL...no offense

Ok no offense taken thanks for the clarification

[Big Baller]

A wise man once said...."Sometimes you have to fire the customer"

[SleepingTalon]

Let me clear this up now. The reason BStone's car could NOT be tuned is because his injectors had NO resistor box installed on them. This is exactly what Inline Pro said. Nothing was wrong with the map in the AEM (besides the fact that it was only a base tune, not a finished calibration file).

[btstone]

Let me clear this up now. The reason BStone's car could NOT be tuned is because his injectors had NO resistor box installed on them. This is exactly what Inline Pro said. Nothing was wrong with the map in the AEM (besides the fact that it was only a base tune, not a finished calibration file).

Correct. I'm flattered so many call and disrupt business on the account of me.

But yes. As soon as got to inline pro. The tuner started asking me questions about the car. He asked me what size my injectors were. I told him 675. He looked and immediately said that they weren't 675. He took them out and looked on them and indeed he was correct. So they switched them out with tje correct ones. If he could notice by just questions and looking over the car, how come no other tuner could? That's what upset me most. One tuner did that by just looking. Is he that good? I don't know. I can't tune cars

[Vteckidd]

Let me clear this up now. The reason BStone's car could NOT be tuned is because his injectors had NO resistor box installed on them. This is exactly what Inline Pro said. Nothing was wrong with the map in the AEM (besides the fact that it was only a base tune, not a finished calibration file).

I don't believe that either . The car tuned fine up to 5500 which is where vtec wouldn't engage

no resistor box wouldn't cause that problem with vtec and aem should been acting weird I would think. I thought aem had direct fire anyway?

[Vteckidd]

A resistor box won't cause vtec not to engage.

When you called you said problems with vtec . Injectors don't prohibit vtEc engagement

[btstone]

I don't believe that either . The car tuned fine up to 5500 which is where vtec wouldn't engage

no resistor box wouldn't cause that problem with vtec and aem should been acting weird I would think. I thought aem had direct fire anyway?

well i was supposed to have high impedence 675cc injectors. somehow my package got swapped up and i got sent 880cc low impedence injectors. so when they hit vtec they would not work due to voltage going to injectors. thats what i was told. but like i said. their tuner notcied by just looking at the car before he tuned...

[btstone]

Sometimes the best customers are the ones you don't have. You are a fucking idiot and I think most shops would happily pay to not have you as a customer.


lol

[SleepingTalon]

I don't believe that either . The car tuned fine up to 5500 which is where vtec wouldn't engage

no resistor box wouldn't cause that problem with vtec and aem should been acting weird I would think. I thought aem had direct fire anyway?

Mike, you don't have to believe it, but it's the truth. If you tune with no resistor box, it's possible that the entire car may SEEM tuned, but the tune will change, and if you leave the ECU in there like that, it'll eventually fry the ECU. I've seen this done before on Kitt's RB powered 240, as he blew up like 3 ECU's before it was diagnosed (wrong impedance on the injectors). Oh and AEM Gen 2 can use sequential fire, but Gen 1 boxes are wasted spark, although that has nothing to do with Stone's car.

Bstone, you paid for TUNING on your car. When a car comes in and asks for tuning, you expect that everything is buttoned up, and is mechanically correct. When it's not, which is often the case, additional time to diagnose the problem(s) is required. It absolutely would have been figured out if you would have wanted to pay to get the problem figured out, but since you didn't and wanted to go somewhere else, Inline Pro figured it out. That's ok too though, as that's your choice to make, but it definitely isn't because someone at the shop didn't have the knowledge to figure it out. In the end, it's fine though. You went to IP, and are happy with what you got. It's just when you say it was because Dan can't tune, that's not accurate at all, as it wasn't his tune that was the problem. Like I siad though, it works out either way. You got what you wanted in the end. Just gotta make sure the truth is told about what was wrong. Oh, and no one called to ask them what happened. They volunteered the info as it came up in a passing conversation that Dan had with them. He's good friends with the guys at IP.

[Vteckidd]

well i was supposed to have high impedence 675cc injectors. somehow my package got swapped up and i got sent 880cc low impedence injectors. so when they hit vtec they would not work due to voltage going to injectors. thats what i was told. but like i said. their tuner notcied by just looking at the car before he tuned...

That not somethig I have ever heard of but I don't know everything either

Weirdness fo sho

fuk an s2k stick with the vette haha

[btstone]

fuk an s2k stick with the vette haha


well considering there is nothing else left that i can buy for the s2k....that is the plan

[BABY J]

PS- why the fuck would it matter if i know how a rotory works? i will never own one or drive one. they fucking suck.

You want to run a local rotary? I'll set it up if you're interested.

PS: That was a stand-up thing man for Tracy to extend an olive branch man. BG and MSPi and every1 that knows me will tell you that most of my shit comes from other states. But mantenance, parts and tuning is a Godsend to get locally man. Don't burn your local bridges man - let by-gones be bygones. It's really okay to be a big boy and start over. Yeah you can't start from the beginning, but you can def start from where you left off. Just my .02. No1 in GA is out to hurt you or rock your world, you're not that important to the local scene to have a target on your back yet. Also no1 @ BG or MSPi will accept your car if they don't think they can help you - they are ALL good people at those shops man FYI. Don't let a woman be a bigger man than you man - that's not sexy.

[Glides]

Bstone, you paid for TUNING on your car. When a car comes in and asks for tuning, you expect that everything is buttoned up, and is mechanically correct. When it's not, which is often the case, additional time to diagnose the problem(s) is required. It absolutely would have been figured out if you would have wanted to pay to get the problem figured out, but since you didn't and wanted to go somewhere else, Inline Pro figured it out. That's ok too though, as that's your choice to make, but it definitely isn't because someone at the shop didn't have the knowledge to figure it out. In the end, it's fine though. You went to IP, and are happy with what you got. It's just when you say it was because Dan can't tune, that's not accurate at all, as it wasn't his tune that was the problem. Like I siad though, it works out either way. You got what you wanted in the end. Just gotta make sure the truth is told about what was wrong. Oh, and no one called to ask them what happened. They volunteered the info as it came up in a passing conversation that Dan had with them. He's good friends with the guys at IP.

Best statement ever.

When you ask for TUNING, you get TUNING. If your car ain't ready, it isn't the TUNERS fault, it's yours man. And of course, you will say that you didn't know the injectors were incorrect so honestly how are you going to sit there and say Dan doesn't know how to tune when you can't even tune yourself OR make sure you have the correct stuff in your car.

It's all really a case of mistakes, started by whoever sent you the wrong injectors. Which caused a chain reaction of your car not being ready to be tuned, therefore Dan charged you 1 hour to basically let you know it wasn't right which caused you to call him incompetent. Also, if this was the problem when you took it to Turbo Dave, then you messed your stuff up....not him. I think perhaps some apologies are in order. Real men do that if they are wrong.

In summary, whoever sold you the wrong injectors made you look like a fool in this thread. Go get em tiger. :goodjob:

[chnco]

another one of these BS threads!

I kind of feel like dynoing today

[Vteckidd]

Mike, you don't have to believe it, but it's the truth. If you tune with no resistor box, it's possible that the entire car may SEEM tuned, but the tune will change, and if you leave the ECU in there like that, it'll eventually fry the ECU. I've seen this done before on Kitt's RB powered 240, as he blew up like 3 ECU's before it was diagnosed (wrong impedance on the injectors). Oh and AEM Gen 2 can use sequential fire, but Gen 1 boxes are wasted spark, although that has nothing to do with Stone's car.

at IP.

Ive been around my fair share of hondas i have NEVER seen a wrong resistor box cause a car to not hit vtec, and run virtually NORMAL with no signs of any issues.

Usually when you have low impedance and no resistor box the car wont even run , if you have high impedance AND a resistor box the car will run but youll burn the injectors up, possibly the ECU.

I dont see a car with low impedance injectors and no resistor box running at all let alone that good as it did that day. I was there.

but hey, again i dont know everything.

[Vteckidd]

http://www.hondata.com/techlowohminjectors.html


I honestly think if the injectors were really the problem, the car wouldnt have made it through tuning sessions at Topspeed or BG, as Hondata concluded, the car with low imp. no resisor box would have fried his ECU within minutes, and his batter voltage (which we tested) was below 12 volts.

:P

[Lankhoss]

well considering there is nothing else left that i can buy for the s2k....that is the plan

http://thebigmamablog.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/26578.jpg

You made a wise choice, my friend!

[SleepingTalon]

Ive been around my fair share of hondas i have NEVER seen a wrong resistor box cause a car to not hit vtec, and run virtually NORMAL with no signs of any issues.

Usually when you have low impedance and no resistor box the car wont even run , if you have high impedance AND a resistor box the car will run but youll burn the injectors up, possibly the ECU.

I dont see a car with low impedance injectors and no resistor box running at all let alone that good as it did that day. I was there.

but hey, again i dont know everything.

This has nothing to do with it being a Honda. It doesn't matter what kind of car it is, it will react the exact same. I've seen it, and done it before with a few other cars that I've tuned. The ECU doesn't always fry just like that. In some cases the car can run for quite awhile without showing any signs of anything being wrong.

[Vteckidd]

Interesting I don't doubt you ijust find it hard to believe

Only 2 people really know and it's inline pro and btstone

but you're right as I has said dans tuning had nothing to do with it

[Tracy]

My website loves this thread!

You know what's cool? People swapping info and debating CARS for fucking once. I'll say that.

[SmackedInATL]

I hope everyone has had a chance to voice their two cents about Dan and his tuning. If you wantto continue the discussion have it moved to the Batlground section. Otherwise, closed.