View Full Version : b20/vtec questions?? help??
B20Civic92
11-07-2009, 05:15 PM
ok i have a b20b block and am currently building it, i have a few questions and im sure some of you know what your talking about.
Im putting a gsr head on it that i already have just waiting on the head bolts to come in,
ok so here's the questions,
1. can someone tell me exactly how i adjust the head timing (the cams) to the proper way?
2. do i need to get a gsr water pump or can i use the b20 water pump?
3. is there a certain type of distributor i need?
4. i have the p28 ecu so do i need to get it chipped or is it already vtec ready? and if i do have to get it chipped, is that an easy process?
5. what type of timing belt do i need? b20 or gsr?
i do believe that is all the questions i need answered, any help at all would be greatly appricated.
**im sure these sound like dumb questions, but im just wanting to make sure im doing everything right**
and i have tried looking up the information myself but im not having any luck.
you can either post the answers here or pm them.
and if you really know what your doing (or have done this swap before) and live in columbus then pm so we can meet up to help me, (will pay of course)
thanks.
EmminoDaGreat
11-07-2009, 05:18 PM
ok i have a b20b block and am currently building it, i have a few questions and im sure some of you know what your talking about.
Im putting a gsr head on it that i already have just waiting on the head bolts to come in,
ok so here's the questions,
1. can someone tell me exactly how i adjust the head timing (the cams) to the proper way?
2. do i need to get a gsr water pump or can i use the b20 water pump?
3. is there a certain type of distributor i need?
4. i have the p28 ecu so do i need to get it chipped or is it already vtec ready? and if i do have to get it chipped, is that an easy process?
5. what type of timing belt do i need? b20 or gsr?
i do believe that is all the questions i need answered, any help at all would be greatly appricated.
**im sure these sound like dumb questions, but im just wanting to make sure im doing everything right**
and i have tried looking up the information myself but im not having any luck.
you can either post the answers here or pm them.
and if you really know what your doing (or have done this swap before) and live in columbus then pm so we can meet up to help me, (will pay of course)
thanks.
1: Unless you have adjustable cam gears and can properly degree your cams in you need them to be at 0-0. If you dont know how to do a timing belt I recommend reading up on it. or getting someone who knows how.VERY important
2. Whatever waterpump you are getting, make sure to match the timing belt to it, IE: LS pump LS timing belt, GSR WP GSR tb
3.B series vtec dizzy, either obd 2 or 1, can be rewired accordingly depending on what you need
4.P28 is vtec ready, however I recommend chipping and getting a basemap to run your setup, then tuning it.
5. see # 3
Master Shake
11-07-2009, 08:23 PM
1: Unless you have adjustable cam gears and can properly degree your cams in you need them to be at 0-0. If you dont know how to do a timing belt I recommend reading up on it. or getting someone who knows how.VERY important
2. Whatever waterpump you are getting, make sure to match the timing belt to it, IE: LS pump LS timing belt, GSR WP GSR tb
3.B series vtec dizzy, either obd 2 or 1, can be rewired accordingly depending on what you need
4.P28 is vtec ready, however I recommend chipping and getting a basemap to run your setup, then tuning it.
5. see # 3
pretty much explains it.
with #1, he's not joking with it. you mess that up, you might end up getting a new motor.
and i think on #5 he means look at the answer to #2. i read that didn't quite make much sense. #2 does.
Grimm Reeper
11-07-2009, 08:49 PM
ok i have a b20b block and am currently building it, i have a few questions and im sure some of you know what your talking about.
Im putting a gsr head on it that i already have just waiting on the head bolts to come in,
ok so here's the questions,
1. can someone tell me exactly how i adjust the head timing (the cams) to the proper way?
2. do i need to get a gsr water pump or can i use the b20 water pump?
3. is there a certain type of distributor i need?
4. i have the p28 ecu so do i need to get it chipped or is it already vtec ready? and if i do have to get it chipped, is that an easy process?
5. what type of timing belt do i need? b20 or gsr?
i do believe that is all the questions i need answered, any help at all would be greatly appricated.
**im sure these sound like dumb questions, but im just wanting to make sure im doing everything right**
and i have tried looking up the information myself but im not having any luck.
you can either post the answers here or pm them.
and if you really know what your doing (or have done this swap before) and live in columbus then pm so we can meet up to help me, (will pay of course)
thanks.
1. Listen to DaGreat :D
2. GSR or any other 22T water pump
3. Dizzy depends on your harness :ninja:
4. You could run off the P28, but it's still running of the SOHC MAP.......
5. GSR Timing Belt :goodjob:
B20Civic92
11-07-2009, 09:46 PM
thanks guys, that helped out a lot,
but on my p28 ecu, it was runnin a stock b20, (dohc), so wouldn't that mean that its already ready?
EmminoDaGreat
11-08-2009, 12:03 PM
Not ready for vtec, and I did meen refer to # 2 lol..
B20Civic92
11-08-2009, 03:59 PM
ok well i will get the chip then, is it easy to do that??
and if anyone has a distributer let me kno, ill buy it from you,
by the way, the did have a stock b20 in it at first if that helps, and i can use the wire harness thats on it right?
Grimm Reeper
11-08-2009, 04:35 PM
also might wanna look into getting some ARP rod bolts installed :goodjob:
scttydb411
11-10-2009, 12:21 PM
the p28 maps are not good for the b20vtec and there are no stock maps for them. only ones that we've already tuned or a tune on your specific setup. chipping is easy.
let us know if we can assist.
B20Civic92
11-10-2009, 02:13 PM
ok so your sayin i should get my ecu chipped? ill do that and i already got the arp head bolts
another thing i saw today though, how do i go about puttin a pcv valve on it??
B20Civic92
11-17-2009, 03:35 PM
i heard about puttin a oil catch can on there in placement of a pcv vavle, that true?
also i found out that i have p75 ecu so is that one vtec ready or still no?
Grimm Reeper
11-17-2009, 04:24 PM
also might wanna look into getting some ARP rod bolts installed :goodjob:
ok so your sayin i should get my ecu chipped? ill do that and i already got the arp head bolts
another thing i saw today though, how do i go about puttin a pcv valve on it??
:thinking: ehhhhh ok :D
scttydb411
11-17-2009, 06:55 PM
p75 (as long as it's obd1) is chippable, but would have to have additional components added to it to make it vtec. it's possible to do (i do it all the time), but it's not vtec ready as it is.
B20Civic92
11-17-2009, 07:22 PM
ok well do you think i should just get another ecu?
if so, what kind should i get
scttydb411
11-17-2009, 09:28 PM
what you have is fine (as long as it's an obd1 p75). if you can get a p28 cheap it'll still need to be chipped.
B20Civic92
11-20-2009, 11:25 AM
ok another thing, how do i kno if i have obd0-1-or2??
i never understood that, and since the head i have is pr3-3, should i get a pr3 ecu or is there something better than that that i should get?
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