Mugen’s Ultimate Civic comes to UK; £38,599 ($64,000 to us)

[1SICKLEX]

After huge interest from the UK and overseas, Mugen has announced it will hand-build up to 20 of its road-legal race cars. The famous tuner of Honda engines will produce the cars at its Northampton base, where customers will meet the Mugen engineers and customise their car to suit their personal needs.

As engine tuning is Mugen’s speciality you would also expect a special engine too. And there is one. A 2 litre i-VTEC engine with new camshafts and a modified intake system to give a power increase of 20% to 236bhp and a 10% boost to torque. The extra power is put onto the road with a limited slip diff, and the handling has also been revised with new springs and a completely new set-up.
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The car is also being offered with a ‘Track Pack’ which includes front Recaro seats, removal of the rear seat bench, road-legal track tyres, water and oil gauges and data recording equipment.

Mugen has set the price of the Civic Type R at £38,599 and insists this price includes an ‘unparalleled purchasing experience’ where the package will be tailored to the individual customers, supposedly similar to a race car build. Mugen will also paint every car in Honda’s championship white, as a celebration of Honda and Mugen’s racing history.

‘When we launched the Civic Type RR saloon in Japan, we sold out of all 300 units in just six minutes,’ says Hiroki Toyoda VP, of Mugen Euro.

[VQ35 Star]

64k for a civic? no ty


but it does look and sound very nice.

[Humphrizzle]

i want

[csmiths]

still ugly as all hell.

[redrumracer]

still a honda

[EJ25RUN]

It's still a fail of a Civic compared to the Japanese Type R.

In the Autocar review, all the guy keeps trying to do is say the suspension is not as bad as it was. :rolleyes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XQmcc8v6H4

[DeeAOne]

64k for a civic? no ty


but it does look and sound very nice.
my exact thoughts. lol

[thegovanator]

Looks cool but not worth the money, Honestly I think the Mugen Civic that you can get now is overpriced at 30k

[thepolecat]

i'd get it, part it in a garage, and double my money in 10 years when I sell it to a collector.

[oneSLOWex]

Only an idiot would pay that much for a fucking civic.

[thegovanator]

Part it in a garage?

[VQ35 Star]

lol

[StreetHazard]

Looks cool but not worth the money, Honestly I think the Mugen Civic that you can get now is overpriced at 30k


X2 no doubt, if you had that much money to blow on a fucking civic, you could build one yourself and make it a fucking beast for 1/2 that amount!

[Glides]

All I can say is "Lol. some dumbass will buy it"

[Sammich]

Only an idiot would pay that much for a fucking civic.
:lmao::lmao::lmao:

[Elbow]

If I was rich I'd buy one, after driving the Mugen Civic SI 4 door we have here, I was sincerely surprised with the true functionality of the car, it handled like any real sports car and was a blast to drive.

[TRDwasiq]

All I can say is "Lol. some dumbass will buy it"
x2..
20 dumbasses.

[bloodline]

love hondas and how they build and engineer there motors...but 64k is out of the question for me....but yehh wut that guy said^^ its still a civic!

[Captain-Obvious™]

I'd rock it.

[swollix]

Looks like shit. $64k buys you a lot of used car...E46 M3, Porsche 996, NSX, Z06, etc...

[roscoe]

Looks like shit. $64k buys you a lot of used car...E46 M3, Porsche 996, NSX, Z06, etc...

exactly what i was thinking. u can get major baller status for 64k

[DustnU]

Mugen is great and I love civics but 64K is way to steep. I mean what the HELL are they thinking?? The RR was awesome but not 64K awesome. I think they are trying to hard, but like you all said there are those DA's that will buy them no matter what.

[civic gsr]

LOOOKS COOL BUT SO DAMM EXPENSIVE

[qwick]

Looks like shit. $64k buys you a lot of used car...E46 M3, Porsche 996, NSX, Z06, etc...



Hell for 64K you can get brand spankin new cars of higer pedigree that look better and out preform it.

[JR VQ 30 de]

Hell for 64K you can get brand spankin new cars of higer pedigree that look better and out preform it.

those are my thoughts as well

[Nerdsrock22]

People that are paying this kind of money for a race-prepped civic don't care that you can get a used NSX for $60,000. Its not like they can only buy one car, and they chose this. This is just a toy.

And it isn't news that a 996 can outperform a Civic. You are buying the experience, and for 20 people out of the 6.5 billion on Earth, its worth it.

[qwick]

People that are paying this kind of money for a race-prepped civic don't care that you can get a used NSX for $60,000. Its not like they can only buy one car, and they chose this. This is just a toy.

And it isn't news that a 996 can outperform a Civic. You are buying the experience, and for 20 people out of the 6.5 billion on Earth, its worth it.

While the above might be true, its just hard for me to understand why out of all the cars(in that price range) you could pick up as a week end play toy, they pick this civic. IMO it kinda seems to be the LEAST "bang for your buck"

It seems like you could buy an SI and spend the remainder on upgrades and have it out preforms this and still have money left over.:2cents:

[Nerdsrock22]

While the above might be true, its just hard for me to understand why out of all the cars(in that price range) you could pick up as a week end play toy, they pick this civic. IMO it kinda seems to be the LEAST "bang for your buck"

It seems like you could buy an SI and spend the remainder on upgrades and have it out preforms this and still have money left over.:2cents:

Not really that hard to understand. I spent $18,000 on a Honda Fit. For that price I could have had a used Evo, 350z, Civic Si, M3, Corvette, etc. Or I could have bought a EK hatch for $3,000 and dropped $15,000 in upgrade parts.

Honda has sold over 2,000,000 Fits around the world.

Mugen has to sell 20 of these. :dunno:

[EPR145]

Looks like shit. $64k buys you a lot of used car...E46 M3, Porsche 996, NSX, Z06, etc...

My thoughts exactly! :goodjob:

[csmiths]

If I was rich I'd buy one, after driving the Mugen Civic SI 4 door we have here, I was sincerely surprised with the true functionality of the car, it handled like any real sports car and was a blast to drive.

It's no where close to the same. The jdm 4door is the real one to buy. Suposedly the suspension on the hatch is complete garbage

[qwick]

Not really that hard to understand. I spent $18,000 on a Honda Fit. For that price I could have had a used Evo, 350z, Civic Si, M3, Corvette, etc. Or I could have bought a EK hatch for $3,000 and dropped $15,000 in upgrade parts.

Honda has sold over 2,000,000 Fits around the world.

Mugen has to sell 20 of these. :dunno:

You spent 18k on a on a 4 door econamy car that was new or newish (depending on when you bought it) that is understandable, you drive yours car everyday and I asume you dont race yours and even if you do your getting your your moneys worth on that car because of the amout you use it.

So why spend 64k on economy car that your only going to use as a toy. like I said before it seems to be the least bang for your buck. To me it seems if your going to buy a car to play around with, make it worth it, And to me this car just doesnt seem worth it.

But alas we can agree to dissagree.

[EP3Hatch]

Great find man. I would definetly take a new Type R!

[Nerdsrock22]

So why spend 64k on economy car that your only going to use as a toy. like I said before it seems to be the least bang for your buck. To me it seems if your going to buy a car to play around with, make it worth it, And to me this car just doesnt seem worth it.


People who buy these aren't looking for bang for their buck. They are die-hard Honda enthusiasts who have money to burn. Its all relative. I bought the Fit because it was the newest Honda and I thought it looked cool and handled well (and because I couldn't afford an SI at the time). People paid $30,000 for the USDM Mugen Civic for the same reason, and they sold 500 of those. People bought the NSX-R GT for $450,000, and it was basically a stock NSX-R with a body kit and a non-functional scoop.

If I was a betting man, I'm sure that Mugen already knows exactly who these are going to, and those people knew how much it was going to be long before we did. So Mugen makes some special civics for some big spenders and gets ricers all around the world to talk about how crazy it is. And maybe, one or two of said ricers is so impressed, they go and buy a shift knob or a reservoir cover. Boom.

Free Marketing.



*I'll have to get you some reps later. I'm all out.*

[qwick]

People who buy these aren't looking for bang for their buck. They are die-hard Honda enthusiasts who have money to burn. Its all relative. I bought the Fit because it was the newest Honda and I thought it looked cool and handled well (and because I couldn't afford an SI at the time). People paid $30,000 for the USDM Mugen Civic for the same reason, and they sold 500 of those. People bought the NSX-R GT for $450,000, and it was basically a stock NSX-R with a body kit and a non-functional scoop.



*I'll have to get you some reps later. I'm all out.*

I kinda get what your saying, I guess cause I dont dont have that kinda money to throw around it just dosent make alot of sence to me.
:goodjob:

[Nerdsrock22]

I kinda get what your saying, I guess cause I dont dont have that kinda money to throw around it just dosent make alot of sence to me.
:goodjob:

Me neither man, me neither.

[G'd[UP]]

looks nice but way to much, you can almost get a new gt-r for that price but im sure there are plenty of honda fans out there what will buy it, i love the look of the 4 door mugen but not this one especially for 64k. sorry

[BexSican 408]

Nerdsrock22 & qwick: (Basically what you guys just discussed) x2

It is cool though, and even though we say its stupid to drop that much $$$, the second we see one on the road, we'll be drooling all over it ha.

[qwick]

Nerdsrock22 & qwick: (Basically what you guys just discussed) x2

It is cool though, and even though we say its stupid to drop that much $$$, the second we see one on the road, we'll be drooling all over it ha.


I always drool, I have a cleft lip and am mildly retarded you asshole.

j/k

But yes I would take a second look. (idk about drool tho)

[MR2DR]

People who buy these aren't looking for bang for their buck. They are die-hard Honda enthusiasts who have money to burn. Its all relative.

...

Free Marketing.



My thoughts exactly. People who can afford that shit could care less about the supra, nsx, and FD that you bought with your 60k. By the end of the day, they have a collector's car.

Personally, I wouldn't pay over 30k for a 4cyl n/a car but there are tons of people who would. Take the lotus elise for example, you can take a Toyota MRS, swap a 2zz in that bitch, suspension mod and BAM! equivalent bang for less buck. Exige? Throw a snail on that 2zz. But by the end of the day, the elise owner has an elise and you have a mrs with a 2zz.

And to all the fuckers saying "Oh fuck no, $30k+ for a honda?!?" If they slap an acura badge on that bitch, I'm sure youd be more willing to shell out $30k. i.e. your jdm tight "honda integra dc5" and your "honda accord euro r".

Just my :2cents:

[G'd[UP]]

Qwick: i kno this is of topic but the girl in the blue in your sig looks just like a friend of mine. lol

[dorin48]

Profit margin ftw, thanks ravenous fanboys.

[qwick]

;38451498"]Qwick: i kno this is of topic but the girl in the blue in your sig looks just like a friend of mine. lol

Really?

you should introduce me to her.

:idb:

[qwick]

My thoughts exactly. People who can afford that shit could care less about the supra, nsx, and FD that you bought with your 60k. By the end of the day, they have a collector's car.:2cents:

these cars will be/are collector cars aswell. Even more so if you can find one that is in good shape and unmolested.

[bdydrpdmazda]

64k for a civic? no ty


but it does look and sound very nice.
X2

[EJ25RUN]

It's no where close to the same. The jdm 4door is the real one to buy. Supposedly the suspension on the hatch is complete garbage

This.....YES


People that are paying this kind of money for a race-prepped civic don't care that you can get a used NSX for $60,000. Its not like they can only buy one car, and they chose this. This is just a toy.

And it isn't news that a 996 can outperform a Civic. You are buying the experience, and for 20 people out of the 6.5 billion on Earth, its worth it.


Disagree. This is an attempt to market the Mugen brand in Britain with a Civic that is made nationally. Mugen's input into it was rather limited as most of the work went into the engine bay. This Mugen Civic would be outperformed by the Renault Megane R26 pretty substantially. Even though the Renault is also fwd and NA, it is a much more complete package. The Civic just gives you a better engine.

You say buy it for the experience, and i would agree if this was the Japanese Mugen RR which along with the standard FD2 Civic Type R is the best 4 door fwd chassis in the world and a great drivers car. But, this package would just make you feel that a bunch of effort went into fixing a car that was poor from the beginning. Honda has admitted the torsion beam on the back was a mistake and rightfully so.

In this situation, this is not a drivers car and the money is paying for a Mugen badge. Not a Mugen effort.

[1SICKLEX]

Wow this is 3 pages and the other cars got a handful of posts? I need to post more Civic pics I guess lol

[trdmatrixxrs]

I like it, but $64,000 is wayyy to much

[G.C]

I have to agree with everyone else on this. Way over priced for a civic.

[G.C]

Wow this is 3 pages and the other cars got a handful of posts? I need to post more Civic pics I guess lol

Lol, most of the comments are not positive comments. 99% are overpriced comments and how they can use 64,000 for something else.

[JEY$JDM]

Id drive it...

...but damn sure couldnt afford it!

[SandM]

i would pass on the Euro Mugen Civic.... this design made for the euro market has been crap since it came out. i would not pay anywhere near this amount of money for some performance bolt ons and a badge.
The Mugen RR from Japan was a whole different beast. Badass track car from the box.
Plus, we have to remember that the american dollar is shit compared to the euro.... it is "less expensive" for them over there.

[santacruz77]

Looks like shit. $64k buys you a lot of used car...E46 M3, Porsche 996, NSX, Z06, etc...
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he said it all

[G'd[UP]]

Really?

you should introduce me to her.

:idb:

see!!

[G'd[UP]]

http://i596.photobucket.com/albums/tt46/gmazdaatl/meredith.jpg

fixed.;)

[qwick]

;38452750"]http://i596.photobucket.com/albums/tt46/gmazdaatl/meredith.jpg

fixed.;)

shes a cutie:goodjob:

[singhondeck]

64k for a civic=less ricers in the future..makes perfect sense

[FAM0U5]

Ill get a supra my :2cents:

[G'd[UP]]

id get a evo x and mod the crap out of it, but i am more than positive that people will buy this civic, especially in the UK

[csmiths]

cars are also alot more expensive over there. thats probably why the price is set so high.

[D3UC3S]

Wow this is 3 pages and the other cars got a handful of posts? I need to post more Civic pics I guess lol

Karma, for "stumbling" into my civic thread and having a fucking gay ass snobby attitude because it wasn't some BMW or lexus.....

[Elbow]

;38452750"]http://i596.photobucket.com/albums/tt46/gmazdaatl/meredith.jpg

fixed.;)

Who is that? I'd let her deep throat me again.

[nreggie454]

And it isn't news that a 996 can outperform a Civic. You are buying the experience, and for 20 people out of the 6.5 billion on Earth, its worth it.

Thats like being one of the 20 people in the world paying Angelina Jolie to kick them in the nuts and give them a numbered certificate of authenticity. Is it a super rare and exclusive experience? Yes. Is it a complete waste of money? Hell yes!

[G'd[UP]]

Who is that? I'd let her deep throat me again.


lol thats my friend meredith. and you wish there could be an (again) lol

[EJ25RUN]

Karma, for "stumbling" into my civic thread and having a fucking gay ass snobby attitude because it wasn't some BMW or lexus.....

No actually, you're just what we call a simple minded individual who's mind cant get passed a single car company.

The reason this thread is getting action is because a car dressed up to look like something it isn't wont make sense for that much money.

[VooDooXII]

I like the idea of a road-legal race car...but the price is exorbitant. Limited production is the only reason it's so high.

Look at the Porsche 911 GT3. It's about $115,000 whereas a Carrera S is about $90,000. That's a $25,000 price difference, or a 30% premium.

Compared to a normal Civic Si which is about $25,000...this one should cost $32,500, or about the price of the Mugen Si.

Again, this ridiculous price just reflects the collector status of this car...and even in that regard, I still don't see the point for the same reason everyone else states; It's a Civic.

I respect the car and I'm sure it's a blast to drive. I wonder how quick it actually is. I'm also curious as to why there hasn't been a stripped-out "track pack" for the standard SI, sort of like the RS treatment on the Lancer Evolution.

[D3UC3S]

No actually, you're just what we call a simple minded individual who's mind cant get passed a single car company.

The reason this thread is getting action is because a car dressed up to look like something it isn't wont make sense for that much money.

True

But why the harshness in the first paragraph:???: No need to explain myself, but i have owned more cars than just a Honda in my lifetime. I love everything automotive.

[bigdare23]

It's still a fail of a Civic compared to the Japanese Type R.

In the Autocar review, all the guy keeps trying to do is say the suspension is not as bad as it was. :rolleyes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XQmcc8v6H4

The car sounds aggressive as hell for a 4 cylinder.







As for the price, what do you expect for a car that's custom tailored for each customer. It's kinda like comparing a off the shelf suit to a custom made suit. (Oh yeah, before someone start bashing me for being a "Civic Lover" I don't care for the price myself LOL)

[nreggie454]

The car sounds aggressive as hell for a 4 cylinder.


As for the price, what do you expect for a car that's custom tailored for each customer. It's kinda like comparing a off the shelf suit to a custom made suit. (Oh yeah, before someone start bashing me for being a "Civic Lover" I don't care for the price myself LOL)

No, its like comparing a normal off the shelf suit to an off the shelf suit that has a big ole Mugen patch on it and a fancy hankerchief to put in the pocket.

[EJ25RUN]

True

But why the harshness in the first paragraph:???: No need to explain myself, but i have owned more cars than just a Honda in my lifetime. I love everything automotive.

Ok. I was just used to seeing it from the view that 1SICKLEX is used to posting a wide variety of cars so was surprised by your comment on him.


The car sounds aggressive as hell for a 4 cylinder.

As for the price, what do you expect for a car that's custom tailored for each customer. It's kinda like comparing a off the shelf suit to a custom made suit. (Oh yeah, before someone start bashing me for being a "Civic Lover" I don't care for the price myself LOL)

People keep missing the big point and i think it is because so many people on here are straight line minded.

The engine is fine. The chassis is the missing piece. It is terrible.

The price is a secondary issue and the Mugen badge is why most on here like it. Mugen helped in the power department but it didn't fix the chassis. It is the same thing affecting the Vauxhall Astra VXR. Enormous power and torque pushing a chassis made of iron girders.

I used to have a Civic so me making fun of Civic owners is a bit of a pun.

[1SICKLEX]

Karma, for "stumbling" into my civic thread and having a fucking gay ass snobby attitude because it wasn't some BMW or lexus.....

Dude, a thread with 5 pages or so is "Karma"? Lol. Do you think this keeps me up at night? :D I was just tickled this thread is huge with one pic when the other threads with amazing vehicles sometimes get a handful. Then someone said most are about the 64k.

It was no biggie.

What thread are you talking about? I think everyone here knows I am no snob at all. Hell my car is usually open with the windows down at meets for people to play with stuff.

[swollix]

Dude, a thread with 5 pages or so is "Karma"? Lol. Do you think this keeps me up at night? :D I was just tickled this thread is huge with one pic when the other threads with amazing vehicles sometimes get a handful. Then someone said most are about the 64k.

It was no biggie.

What thread are you talking about? I think everyone here knows I am no snob at all. Hell my car is usually open with the windows down at meets for people to play with stuff.


No actually, you're just what we call a simple minded individual who's mind cant get passed a single car company.



Disregard anything he posts, he likes talking about shit he doesn't even know about. :screwy:

[chorne1787]

for 64k i would get a lotus exsige its everything they listed and its rwd and alot more badass and i would still have almost 10k left over

[S2KJD]

id pay 18k for it...

[D3UC3S]

Dude, a thread with 5 pages or so is "Karma"? Lol. Do you think this keeps me up at night? :D I was just tickled this thread is huge with one pic when the other threads with amazing vehicles sometimes get a handful. Then someone said most are about the 64k.

It was no biggie.

What thread are you talking about? I think everyone here knows I am no snob at all. Hell my car is usually open with the windows down at meets for people to play with stuff.

This is what you said in my thread about 2 months back: "GOTDAMNIT I read the title as E92.....I was thinking M3....

lol"

That was it...sorry, but to me that sounded snobby b/c you accidentally clicked on a thread about a civic. Like you said, no biggie. I was probly in a shitty mood that day i posted the Karma thing..:cheers: You're a stand up guy and sorry i called you a snob.

Swollass: you're a fucking comedian...seriously...im serious:rolleyes:

[DUBSf22c]

Looks like shit. $64k buys you a lot of used car...E46 M3, Porsche 996, NSX, Z06, etc...

not over there

[Starrfire]

No thanks, but it's kinda cool, not even 30k cool though.

[swollix]

Swollass: you're a fucking comedian...seriously...im serious:rolleyes:

:goodjob:

[teh_mugen18]

LOL Honda had to go back and beef up that Civic, since TopGear said they liked the other Civic Si better than this one and proved it to perform just as good (if not better?) than this one.

[IndianStig]

Imma step up and say that I would rock it if I had cash to blow. I'd drive it for 3k miles, then store it and sell it for a lot more in 30 years to some Japanese collector.

[©hris]

$65k POS

[Ronsam2006]

For 64k, it better come with a bad bitch in the passenger thats gonna suck my dick for the rest of the cars life.

[Genji-Sama]

I don't think too many americans will drop that kinda cash for a honda, but still it's nice of them to finally offer those cars down here.

[ej1boy95]

64k heck no. imagine what u could do to an EK or EG with that money !

[K20Z1]

fd2 mugen rr > this x 10^300

[NoWAyItZTOMmY]

ill take 20 of em

[EJ25RUN]

fd2 mugen rr > this x 10^300

Your math needs to be (10^300)^1000

[K20Z1]

Your math needs to be (10^300)^1000

that must be a huge ass number :D:goodjob:

[EJ25RUN]

that must be a huge ass number :D:goodjob:

It's kinda weird of me making fun of it cause one of my roomates is Spanish and has one.

[razorride]

$64K to the US??? For 236HP??? Are they f***ing nuts.. It is a CIVIC. For $64K you could buy a beautiful, used of course, 911 or older 911 turbo Porsche, BMW M3, Audi S4, Audi S5 maybe, and SEVERAL other beautiful REAL sports cars/sedans. Listen I like Hondas and all, but if they are serious with $64K for a 234HP Civic I have to question their mental health. Even the original Mugen Civic was over priced at $31.5K, which was the price of the blue one they had at the Honda dealership here in knoxville. I mean do you realize what kind of car you could build for that price. Not to mention the fact that Hondas arent nortoriously known for great handling cars which is kinda a deal breaker for me anyways.

Oh well, end rant lol. That rediculous and it doesnt even look good either