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Nemesis
10-13-2009, 12:23 PM
Well this Sunday I plan on running my car at the Test and Tune at Import Face off.

This will be my first time with the new blower setup and honestly I have no fucking clue what Im doing when Im actually at the strip other than pulling up to the tree.

Currently here is my setup:

481rwhp/ 412tq (tq is lower since its tuned to go full rich up top)
Nitto 555s 285/40/18 in the rear ( not drag radials)
Steeda Stage II track Suspension with Tokico adjustables all around, currently set full soft in the rear.

Ive seen some guys with my setup run a low to mid 11 with this, but I dont want to go in with those high expecations. Basically what Im asking is, what should I set my tire PSI to and how should I launch the car? Any tip would help me a lot, id hate to waste my time and money just to cut 14s @ 118mph all day lol




Edit: Just to show how shitty of a driver I am... lol Im not ashamed to admit it, I dont have enough seat time.

http://s205.photobucket.com/albums/bb33/xt9/?action=view&current=165.flv
Incontt
10-13-2009, 02:02 PM
put the tires on about 20psi. Dont go into the water...go around....back up towards water and spin the tires up towards the starting line....just a quick spin to clean any dirt off. If it wont spin...track is hookin and no worrys. Slip the clutch out of the hole and do all you can not to spin.....even if it means slowing down on the launch. A slow launch with traction is usually faster than WOT and spinning to the rev limiter. Even if you run 14s keep running and trying different launch techniques. You want to do 2 things....learn what launch rpm/clutch slip/throttle application works best and to get a routine. The more passes the make the more routine it becomes and the less mistakes you make. Everyone was a rookie at one time. No amount of money or parts can take the place of seat time. Most of all have fun! You are gonna run a lot slower than your car is capable of but the more seat time you get the faster it will get.
Jaimecbr900
10-13-2009, 02:07 PM
^That's actually good advice.

One more thing, remember the clutches get hot and slip. So if you're hot lapping, be aware that the slip/engagement of the clutch will change as it heat soaks. Let the clutch cool down if you're launching and slamming.
Nemesis
10-13-2009, 02:11 PM
Thanks for the advice guys, its a totally different world for me now. I went from FWD , to AWD, now to RWD lol
Jaimecbr900
10-13-2009, 02:16 PM
Thanks for the advice guys, its a totally different world for me now. I went from FWD , to AWD, now to RWD lol

Yep, and they all act totally different coming off the line (which is where its pretty important). It's good that you have the rears set up full soft. If you have a lot of trouble with spinning, you may want to consider some DR's. When you get up to the power level you're at, that's when you start having traction issues show up.

Good luck next week. :goodjob:
Nemesis
10-13-2009, 02:18 PM
Yep, and they all act totally different coming off the line (which is where its pretty important). It's good that you have the rears set up full soft. If you have a lot of trouble with spinning, you may want to consider some DR's. When you get up to the power level you're at, that's when you start having traction issues show up.

Good luck next week. :goodjob:

Yeah, I was hoping to have some radials , but I dont have a set of spare wheels to mount them to :(

I guess ill just practice and hope for the best lol
Thacker44
10-13-2009, 02:20 PM
I can come make a pass or two for you if you like, I mean... if you want your car to set setup records and what not.
Jaimecbr900
10-13-2009, 02:22 PM
I can come make a pass or two for you if you like, I mean... if you want your car to set setup records and what not.


I thought you couldn't drive when there were timing lights and time slips involved......:thinking:
SmackedInATL
10-13-2009, 02:31 PM
Definitely don't go into thinking you will cut 11s on street tires. I'd be happy VERY happy with a 12.2 on your setup, tires, etc. Just make as many passes as you can and don't worry about shit but your light and your lane.
Jaimecbr900
10-13-2009, 02:49 PM
Definitely don't go into thinking you will cut 11s on street tires. I'd be happy VERY happy with a 12.2 on your setup, tires, etc. Just make as many passes as you can and don't worry about shit but your light and your lane.

Very true.

Side note: I saw your videos from last weekend. Very nice. Question though: I noticed your car was dropping the nose before the 60' mark. Were you spinning and quick shifting or is that just typical of your car? Just wondering.
Catnip
10-13-2009, 03:32 PM
I'd try around 20 psi like Jerry said, but if that's not working try other pressures. Might need to go lower or higher. Also, some street tires like burnouts, some do not.

My tires like 18 psi and about a full 5 second brake-stand burnout... others are good with just getting the dirt off.
On_Her_Face
10-13-2009, 03:37 PM
I only ran a 12.2 on DRs, street tires I ran a 12.9ish. Will you be at Commerce?
Lurker
10-13-2009, 04:06 PM
So if you're hot lapping, be aware that the slip/engagement of the clutch will change as it heat soaks.


He's going to Commerce so he has a good 2-3 hours between runs. Lol


I would take Thacker up on his offer and let him show you some pointers. Watching someone with experience launch your car and having them explain what they are doing step by step makes a world of difference.

Until you see someone do it properly, you're only guessing.
Thacker44
10-13-2009, 04:14 PM
He's going to Commerce so he has a good 2-3 hours between runs. Lol


I would take Thacker up on his offer and let him show you some pointers. Watching someone with experience launch your car and having them explain what they are doing step by step makes a world of difference.

Until you see someone do it properly, you're only guessing.

It didn't help SmackedintheButt, he still sucks at driving.
SmackedInATL
10-13-2009, 04:25 PM
It didn't help SmackedintheButt, he still sucks at driving.

Thacker will always be Thacker. No one pays any attention to you anymore dude. We all know you are a joke.
Thacker44
10-13-2009, 04:27 PM
Thacker will always be Thacker. No one pays any attention to you anymore dude. We all know you are a joke.

I am the joke?

You are the one that spent all that money for a built ass rear end only to not go any faster at the track than with your IRS that we all told you was fine.
:lmfao:

11.7 @ 116, lmao I've been that fast since febuary of 05.

:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:
SmackedInATL
10-13-2009, 04:27 PM
Very true.

Side note: I saw your videos from last weekend. Very nice. Question though: I noticed your car was dropping the nose before the 60' mark. Were you spinning and quick shifting or is that just typical of your car? Just wondering.

It dives like that because out the hole there is a lot of torque be put to the ground, and when I hit the clutch it just dives. Its a combination of the heavy front end (iron block and massive k-member) and stock struts. I just ordered a tubular k-member so that will take off a lot of weight, and adjustable shocks. So the front end will lift up very easily and will not dive like that anymore.
SmackedInATL
10-13-2009, 04:30 PM
I am the joke?

You are the one that spent all that money for a built ass rear end only to not go any faster at the track than with your IRS that we all told you was fine.
:lmfao:

11.7 @ 116, lmao I've been that fast since febuary of 05.

:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:

Was that before or after you let someone total your car? Dumb ass.

You are the only one laughing, I'm just fine with my car. I put the solid in so it would be stronger and more reliable at the track, but why am I explaining myself to you? You are just a high school drop out with no diploma at 22 years old. Good luck finding work!

By the way, how's Maggie? ROFL.
Incontt
10-13-2009, 05:15 PM
Aaron id do the swaybar first. I got way more weight on the front of mine than stock. you may not need to spend any money...
Thacker44
10-13-2009, 05:18 PM
Aaron id do the swaybar first. I got way more weight on the front of mine than stock. you may not need to spend any money...

Aaron thinks spending money = going faster.

Sort of like Obama thinks spending money = better economy.

See the similarity?
:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:
Nemesis
10-13-2009, 05:26 PM
I only ran a 12.2 on DRs, street tires I ran a 12.9ish. Will you be at Commerce?

Not sure if Im following where you're going with this....


but yes, I will be at Commerce. Read the very FIRST sentence of my original post.
Incontt
10-13-2009, 05:35 PM
Aaron, Thacker has got a real hard on for u...did u fuk his girl?
Thacker44
10-13-2009, 05:40 PM
Aaron, Thacker has got a real hard on for u...did u fuk his girl?

No, but Obama has fucked this country. Counts about the same.
On_Her_Face
10-13-2009, 05:42 PM
Not sure if Im following where you're going with this....


but yes, I will be at Commerce. Read the very FIRST sentence of my original post.

Never been to that event so IDK where it is. You will run very slow at commerce and probably get a lot of wheel hop. Check on mustang forums (just a guess) cause I know on Corvette forums there is a guy Ranger that tells exactly how to launch the car the most effective way (actually helped). Good luck can't wait to see the slips.
Incontt
10-13-2009, 05:44 PM
Ranger is da shit. I'd let him drive my car just to say he did and mines an auto :)
Thacker44
10-13-2009, 05:45 PM
Ranger is da shit. I'd let him drive my car just to say he did and mines an auto :)

Ranger also races at the best track in the country.

Put me in the same car as ranger at the same track on the same day and I bet my bankroll I'll be cracking off in his times ass.
Incontt
10-13-2009, 05:50 PM
lol....you cant find your way to a local track cause you know you will get that ass drug.
Thacker44
10-13-2009, 05:56 PM
lol....you cant find your way to a local track cause you know you will get that ass drug.

:???:
SmackedInATL
10-13-2009, 06:15 PM
I only ran a 12.2 on DRs, street tires I ran a 12.9ish. Will you be at Commerce?

DR's or bias ply ET Streets? Big difference...


Aaron, Thacker has got a real hard on for u...did u fuk his girl?
Wouldn't go near that.


:???:

Thacker nuts up again! What else is new?!?!?!
Thacker44
10-13-2009, 06:23 PM
DR's or bias ply ET Streets? Big difference...


Wouldn't go near that.



Thacker nuts up again! What else is new?!?!?!

Who loves white girls?

Black guys that hate being black!
:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:
SmackedInATL
10-13-2009, 06:24 PM
Who loves white girls?

Black guys that hate being black!
:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:

I like PUSSY. Not fat girls that need a tummy tuck. Didn't want to go there, but you asked for it! Its the truth!
Thacker44
10-13-2009, 06:27 PM
I like PUSSY. Not fat girls that need a tummy tuck. Didn't want to go there, but you asked for it! Its the truth!

:lmfao:

Trust me, anythings better than that dumb, ignorant shit you lay down next to. Once ya go black... we don't want ya back.
:lmfao:
SmackedInATL
10-13-2009, 06:29 PM
:lmfao:

Trust me, anythings better than that dumb, ignorant shit you lay down next to. Once ya go black... we don't want ya back.
:lmfao:

You are still fat and so is your girl.:goodjob: You two should work out together!

Oh yeah, I'm pretty sure my girlfriend could kick your ass too LOL!
Thacker44
10-13-2009, 06:30 PM
You are still fat and so is your girl.:goodjob: You two should work out together!

Oh yeah, I'm pretty sure my girlfriend could kick your ass too LOL!

How does her family feel about you?


And your girlfriend might have a chance at kicking my ass, but you sure as fuck don't but next time I see you you'll def get your chance MOUTH.
SmackedInATL
10-13-2009, 06:31 PM
How does her family feel about you?


And your girlfriend might have a chance at kicking my ass, but you sure as fuck don't but next time I see you you'll def get your chance MOUTH.

LOL not everyone's family are a bunch of hick, rednecks with NO FUCKING TEETH.
Thacker44
10-13-2009, 06:35 PM
LOL not everyone's family are a bunch of hick, rednecks with NO FUCKING TEETH.

Blacks rule the world!!!
SmackedInATL
10-13-2009, 06:36 PM
Blacks rule the world!!!

Damn you a ignorant mother fucker. Shit!
Thacker44
10-13-2009, 06:39 PM
Damn you a ignorant mother fucker. Shit!

WE PRESIDENT NOWWW


THEY PROMISED US 40 ACRES AND A MULE BUT WE TOOK THE COUNTRY AND THE WHITEHOUSE!!!!
On_Her_Face
10-13-2009, 08:43 PM
Actually I had ET Streets with those times but I have real DRs now
Tracy
10-13-2009, 08:47 PM
Watch out for the wall, that's my advice!
Jaimecbr900
10-13-2009, 09:37 PM
Thacker, STFU already. Seriously, you THINK you can drive, yet you're allergic of the track where little things like reaction time, 60', and the all important ET are printed out and humble your butt dyno into embarassment. :rolleyes:

Go start your own thread and have your little bitch fest with whomever you want. Leave this one or I'll just ban you, like you've been banned a million times before. This is NOT the WL where anything goes and we have to put up with racist pieces of shit like you making non-funny jokes and jacking your own dick to your make believe "driver" title. :rolleyes: