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Myths and Facts About Marijuana

This collection of myths and facts is based on the book Marijuana Myths, Marijuana Facts: A Review of the Scientific Evidence (http://www.drugpolicy.org/library/bookstore/mmmf.cfm) . A decade after the book was published, the latest scientific evidence continues to support the original findings.
Top Five Marijuana Myths


Marijuana Can Cause Permanent Mental Illness (http://www.drugpolicy.org/marijuana/factsmyths/#psych)
Marijuana Is Highly Addictive (http://www.drugpolicy.org/marijuana/factsmyths/#addictive)
Marijuana Is More Potent Today Than In The Past (http://www.drugpolicy.org/marijuana/factsmyths/#potent)
Marijuana Offenses Are Not Severely Punished (http://www.drugpolicy.org/marijuana/factsmyths/#offenses)
Marijuana Is More Damaging to the Lungs Than Tobacco (http://www.drugpolicy.org/marijuana/factsmyths/#tobacco)


Or click to read other common myths. (http://www.drugpolicy.org/marijuana/factsmyths/#moremyths)

Myth: Marijuana Can Cause Permanent Mental Illness. Among adolescents, even occasional marijuana use may cause psychological damage. During intoxication, marijuana users become irrational and often behave erratically.
Fact: There is no convincing scientific evidence that marijuana causes psychological damage or mental illness in either teenagers or adults. Some marijuana users experience psychological distress following marijuana ingestion, which may include feelings of panic, anxiety, and paranoia. Such experiences can be frightening, but the effects are temporary. With very large doses, marijuana can cause temporary toxic psychosis. This occurs rarely, and almost always when marijuana is eaten rather than smoked. Marijuana does not cause profound changes in people's behavior.


Iverson, Leslie. “Long-term effects of exposure to cannabis.” Current Opinion in Pharmacology 5(2005): 69-72.



Weiser and Noy. “Interpreting the association between cannabis use and increased risk of schizophrenia.” Dialogues in Clincal Neuroscience 1(2005): 81-85.
"Cannabis use will impair but not damage mental health." London Telegraph. 23 January 2006.



Andreasson, S. et al. “Cannabis and Schizophrenia: A Longitudinal study of Swedish Conscripts,” The Lancet 2 (1987): 1483-86.



Degenhardt, Louisa, Wayne Hall and Michael Lynskey. “Testing hypotheses about the relationship between cannabis use and psychosis,” Drug and Alcohol Dependence 71 (2003): 42-4.



Weil, A. “Adverse Reactions to Marijuana: Classification and Suggested Treatment.” New England Journal of Medicine 282 (1970): 997-1000.

Myth: Marijuana is Highly Addictive. Long term marijuana users experience physical dependence and withdrawal, and often need professional drug treatment to break their marijuana habits.
Fact: Most people who smoke marijuana smoke it only occasionally. A small minority of Americans - less than 1 percent - smoke marijuana on a daily basis. An even smaller minority develop a dependence on marijuana. Some people who smoke marijuana heavily and frequently stop without difficulty. Others seek help from drug treatment professionals. Marijuana does not cause physical dependence. If people experience withdrawal symptoms at all, they are remarkably mild.


United States. Dept. of Health and Human Services. DASIS Report Series, Differences in Marijuana Admissions Based on Source of Referral. 2002. June 24 2005.



Johnson, L.D., et al. “National Survey Results on Drug Use from the Monitoring the Future Study, 1975-1994, Volume II: College Students and Young Adults.” Rockville, MD: U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, 1996.



Kandel, D.B., et al. “Prevalence and demographic correlates of symptoms of dependence on cigarettes, alcohol, marijuana and cocaine in the U.S. population.” Drug and Alcohol Dependence 44 (1997):11-29.



Stephens, R.S., et al. “Adult marijuana users seeking treatment.” Journal of Consulting and Clinical Psychology 61 (1993): 1100-1104.

Myth: Marijuana Is More Potent Today Than In The Past. Adults who used marijuana in the 1960s and 1970s fail to realize that when today's youth use marijuana they are using a much more dangerous drug.
Fact: When today's youth use marijuana, they are using the same drug used by youth in the 1960s and 1970s. A small number of low-THC samples seized by the Drug Enforcement Administration are used to calculate a dramatic increase in potency. However, these samples were not representative of the marijuana generally available to users during this era. Potency data from the early 1980s to the present are more reliable, and they show no increase in the average THC content of marijuana. Even if marijuana potency were to increase, it would not necessarily make the drug more dangerous. Marijuana that varies quite substantially in potency produces similar psychoactive effects.


King LA, Carpentier C, Griffiths P. “Cannabis potency in Europe.” Addiction. 2005 Jul; 100(7):884-6
Henneberger, Melinda. "Pot Surges Back, But It’s, Like, a Whole New World." New York Times 6 February 1994: E18.



Brown, Lee. “Interview with Lee Brown,” Dallas Morning News 21 May 1995.



Drug Enforcement Administration. U.S. Drug Threat Assessment, 1993. Washington, DC: U.S. Department of Justice, 1993.



Kleiman, Mark A.R. Marijuana: Costs of Abuse, Costs of Control. Westport: Greenwood Press, 1989. 29.



Bennett, William. Director of National Drug Control Policy, remarks at Conference of Mayors. 23 April 1990.

Myth: Marijuana Offenses Are Not Severely Punished. Few marijuana law violators are arrested and hardly anyone goes to prison. This lenient treatment is responsible for marijuana continued availability and use.
Fact: Marijuana arrests in the United States doubled between 1991 and 1995. In 1995, more than one-half-million people were arrested for marijuana offenses. Eighty-six percent of them were arrested for marijuana possession. Tens of thousands of people are now in prison or marijuana offenses. An even greater number are punished with probation, fines, and civil sanctions, including having their property seized, their driver's license revoked, and their employment terminated. Despite these civil and criminal sanctions, marijuana continues to be readily available and widely used.


United States. Federal Bureau of Investigation. Uniform Crime Reports for the United States. 1996. Washington: U. S. Dept. of Justice, 1997.



Gettman, Jon B. National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws. Crimes of Indescretion: Marijuana arrests in the United States. Washington: NORML, 2005.



Marijuana Policy Project. Smoke a Joint, Lose Your License. July 1995 Status Report. Washington: MPP, 1995.



Treaster, J. “Miami Beach’s New Drug Weapon Will Fire Off Letters to the Employer” New York Times 23 February 1991: A9.



Reed, T.G. “American Forfeiture Law: Property Owners Meet the Prosecutor.” Policy Analysis 179 (1992): 1-32.

Myth: Marijuana is More Damaging to the Lungs Than Tobacco. Marijuana smokers are at a high risk of developing lung cancer, bronchitis, and emphysema.
Fact: Moderate smoking of marijuana appears to pose minimal danger to the lungs. Like tobacco smoke, marijuana smoke contains a number of irritants and carcinogens. But marijuana users typically smoke much less often than tobacco smokers, and over time, inhale much less smoke. As a result, the risk of serious lung damage should be lower in marijuana smokers. There have been no reports of lung cancer related solely to marijuana, and in a large study presented to the American Thoracic Society in 2006, even heavy users of smoked marijuana were found not to have any increased risk of lung cancer. Unlike heavy tobacco smokers, heavy marijuana smokers exhibit no obstruction of the lung's small airway. That indicates that people will not develop emphysema from smoking marijuana.


Center on Addiction and Substance Abuse. “Legalization: Panacea or Pandora’s Box.” New York. (1995): 36.



Turner, Carlton E. The Marijuana Controversy. Rockville: American Council for Drug Education, 1981.



Nahas, Gabriel G. and Nicholas A. Pace. Letter. “Marijuana as Chemotherapy Aid Poses Hazards.” New York Times 4 December 1993: A20.



Inaba, Darryl S. and William E. Cohen. Uppers, Downers, All-Arounders: Physical and Mental Effects of Psychoactive Drugs. 2nd ed. Ashland: CNS Productions, 1995. 174.


More Marijuana Myths


Marijuana Has No Medicinal Value (http://www.drugpolicy.org/marijuana/factsmyths/#medmj)
Marijuana Is a Gateway Drug (http://www.drugpolicy.org/marijuana/factsmyths/#gateway)
Marijuana's Harms Have Been Proved Scientifically (http://www.drugpolicy.org/marijuana/factsmyths/#harms)
Marijuana Causes an Amotivational Syndrome (http://www.drugpolicy.org/marijuana/factsmyths/#motivation)
Marijuana Policy in the Netherlands is a Failure (http://www.drugpolicy.org/marijuana/factsmyths/#netherlands)
Marijuana Kills Brain Cells (http://www.drugpolicy.org/marijuana/factsmyths/#brain)
Marijuana Impairs Memory and Cognition (http://www.drugpolicy.org/marijuana/factsmyths/#memory)
Marijuana Causes Crime (http://www.drugpolicy.org/marijuana/factsmyths/#crime)
Marijuana Interferes With Male and Female Sex Hormones (http://www.drugpolicy.org/marijuana/factsmyths/#hormones)
Marijuana Use During Pregnancy Damages the Fetus (http://www.drugpolicy.org/marijuana/factsmyths/#pregnancy)
Marijuana Use Impairs the Immune System (http://www.drugpolicy.org/marijuana/factsmyths/#immune)
Marijuana's Active Ingredient, THC, Gets Trapped in Body Fat (http://www.drugpolicy.org/marijuana/factsmyths/#bodyfat)
Marijuana Use is a Major Cause Of Highway Accidents (http://www.drugpolicy.org/marijuana/factsmyths/#accidents)
Marijuana Related Hospital Emergencies Are Increasing, Particularly Among Youth (http://www.drugpolicy.org/marijuana/factsmyths/#er)
Marijuana Use Can Be Prevented (http://www.drugpolicy.org/marijuana/factsmyths/#prevention)

Myth: Marijuana Has No Medicinal Value. Safer, more effective drugs are available. They include a synthetic version of THC, marijuana's primary active ingredient, which is marketed in the United States under the name Marinol.
Fact: Marijuana has been shown to be effective in reducing the nausea induced by cancer chemotherapy, stimulating appetite in AIDS patients, and reducing intraocular pressure in people with glaucoma. There is also appreciable evidence that marijuana reduces muscle spasticity in patients with neurological disorders. A synthetic capsule is available by prescription, but it is not as effective as smoked marijuana for many patients. Pure THC may also produce more unpleasant psychoactive side effects than smoked marijuana. Many people use marijuana as a medicine today, despite its illegality. In doing so, they risk arrest and imprisonment.


Vinciguerra, Vincent; Moore, Terry and Eileen Brennan. “Inhalation marijuana as an antiemetic for cancer chemotherapy.” New York State Journal of Medicine 85 (1988): 525-27.



McCabe M, Smith FP, Macdonald JS. “Efficacy of tetrahydrocannabinol in patients refractory to standard antiemetic therapy.” Investigational New Drugs 6.3 (1988): 243-46.



Gorter, R., et al. “Dronabionol effects on weight in patients with HIV infection.” 1992. AIDS 6 (1992):127-38.



Foltin, R.W., et al. “Behavioral analysis of marijuana effects on food intake in humans.” Pharmacology Biochemistry and Behavior 25 (1986): 577-82.



Crawford, W.J. and Merritt, J.C. “Effect of tetrahydrocannabinol on Arterial and Intraocular Hypertension.” International Journal of Clinical of Pharmacology and Biopharmaceuticals 17 (1979):191-96.



Merritt, J.C., et al. “Effects of marijuana on intraocular and blood pressure on glaucoma.” Ophthamology 87 (1980):222-28.



Baker, D., Gareth Pryce and J. Ludovic Croxford. “Cannabinoids control spasticity and tremor in a multiple sclerosis model.” Nature 404.6773 (2000): 84-7.



Hanigan, W.C., et al. “The Effect of Delta-9-THC on Human Spasticity.” Clinical Pharmacology and Therapeutics 39 (1986):198.

Myth: Marijuana is a Gateway Drug. Even if marijuana itself causes minimal harm, it is a dangerous substance because it leads to the use of "harder drugs" like heroin, LSD, and cocaine.
Fact: Marijuana does not cause people to use hard drugs. What the gateway theory presents as a causal explanation is a statistic association between common and uncommon drugs, an association that changes over time as different drugs increase and decrease in prevalence. Marijuana is the most popular illegal drug in the United States today. Therefore, people who have used less popular drugs such as heroin, cocaine, and LSD, are likely to have also used marijuana. Most marijuana users never use any other illegal drug. Indeed, for the large majority of people, marijuana is a terminus rather than a gateway drug.


Morral, Andrew R.; McCaffrey, Daniel F. and Susan M. Paddock. “Reassessing the marijuana gateway effect.” Addiction 97.12 (2002): 1493-504.



United States. National Household Survey on Drug Abuse: Population Estimates 1994. Rockville, MD: U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, 1995.



---. National Household Survey on Drug Abuse: Main Findings 1994. Rockville, MD: U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, 1996.



D.B. Kandel and M. Davies, “Progression to Regular Marijuana Involvement: Phenomenology and Risk Factors for Near-Daily Use,” Vulnerability to Drug Abuse, Eds. M. Glantz and R. Pickens. Washington, D.C.: American Psychological Association, 1992: 211-253.

Myth: Marijuana's Harms Have Been Proved Scientifically. In the 1960s and 1970s, many people believed that marijuana was harmless. Today we know that marijuana is much more dangerous than previously believed.
Fact: In 1972, after reviewing the scientific evidence, the National Commission on Marihuana and Drug Abuse concluded that while marijuana was not entirely safe, its dangers had been grossly overstated. Since then, researchers have conducted thousands of studies of humans, animals, and cell cultures. None reveal any findings dramatically different from those described by the National Commission in 1972. In 1995, based on thirty years of scientific research editors of the British medical journal Lancet concluded that "the smoking of cannabis, even long term, is not harmful to health."


United States. National Commission on Marihuana and Drug Abuse. Marihuana: A signal of misunderstanding. Shafer Commission Report. Washington, D.C.: U.S. Government Printing Office, 1972.



“Deglamorising Cannabis.” Editorial. The Lancet 356:11(1995): 1241.

Myth: Marijuana Causes an Amotivational Syndrome. Marijuana makes users passive, apathetic, and uninterested in the future. Students who use marijuana become underachievers and workers who use marijuana become unproductive.
Fact: For twenty-five years, researchers have searched for a marijuana-induced amotivational syndrome and have failed to find it. People who are intoxicated constantly, regardless of the drug, are unlikely to be productive members of society. There is nothing about marijuana specifically that causes people to lose their drive and ambition. In laboratory studies, subjects given high doses of marijuana for several days or even several weeks exhibit no decrease in work motivation or productivity. Among working adults, marijuana users tend to earn higher wages than non-users. College students who use marijuana have the same grades as nonusers. Among high school students, heavy use is associated with school failure, but school failure usually comes first.


Himmelstein, J.L. The Strange Career of Marihuana: Politics and Ideology of Drug Control in America. Westport, CT: Greenwood Press, 1983.



Mellinger, G.D. et al. “Drug Use, Academic Performance, and Career Indecision: Longitudinal Data in Search of a Model.” Longitudinal Research on Drug Use: Empirical Findings and Methodological Issues. Ed. D.B. Kandel. Washington, DC: American Psychological Association, 1978. 157-177.



Pope, H.G. et al., “Drug Use and Life Style Among College Undergraduates in 1989: A Comparison With 1969 and 1978,” American Journal of Psychiatry 147 (1990): 998-1001.

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Myth: Marijuana Policy in the Netherlands is a Failure. Dutch law, which allows marijuana to be bought, sold, and used openly, has resulted in increasing rates of marijuana use, particularly in youth.
Fact: The Netherlands' drug policy is the most nonpunitive in Europe. For more than twenty years, Dutch citizens over age eighteen have been permitted to buy and use cannabis (marijuana and hashish) in government-regulated coffee shops. This policy has not resulted in dramatically escalating cannabis use. For most age groups, rates of marijuana use in the Netherlands are similar to those in the United States. However, for young adolescents, rates of marijuana use are lower in the Netherlands than in the United States. The Dutch people overwhelmingly approve of current cannabis policy which seeks to normalize rather than dramatize cannabis use. The Dutch government occasionally revises existing policy, but it remains committed to decriminalization.

* Fromberg, E. “The Case of the Netherlands: Contradictions and Values in Questioning Prohibition.” 1994 International Report on Drugs, Brussels: International Antiprohibitionist League, 1994. 113-124.

* Sandwijk, J.P., et al. Licit and Illicit Drug Use in Amsterdam II. Amsterdam: University of Amsterdam, 1995.

* Gunning, K.F. Crime Rate and Drug Use in Holland. Rotterdam: Dutch National Committee on Drug Prevention. 1993.

Myth: Marijuana Kills Brain Cells. Used over time, marijuana permanently alters brain structure and function, causing memory loss, cognitive impairment, personality deterioration, and reduced productivity.
Fact: None of the medical tests currently used to detect brain damage in humans have found harm from marijuana, even from long term high-dose use. An early study reported brain damage in rhesus monkeys after six months exposure to high concentrations of marijuana smoke. In a recent, more carefully conducted study, researchers found no evidence of brain abnormality in monkeys that were forced to inhale the equivalent of four to five marijuana cigarettes every day for a year. The claim that marijuana kills brain cells is based on a speculative report dating back a quarter of a century that has never been supported by any scientific study.

* Heath, R.G., et al. “Cannabis Sativa: Effects on Brain Function and Ultrastructure in Rhesus Monkeys.” Biological Psychiatry 15 (1980): 657-690.

* Ali, S.F., et al. “Chronic Marijuana Smoke Exposure in the Rhesus Monkey IV: Neurochemical Effects and Comparison to Acute and Chronic Exposure to Delta-9-Tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) in Rats.” Pharmacology Biochemistry and Behavior 40 (1991): 677-82.Myth: Marijuana Impairs Memory and Cognition. Under the influence of marijuana, people are unable to think rationally and intelligently. Chronic marijuana use causes permanent mental impairment.
Fact: Marijuana produces immediate, temporary changes in thoughts, perceptions, and information processing. The cognitive process most clearly affected by marijuana is short-term memory. In laboratory studies, subjects under the influence of marijuana have no trouble remembering things they learned previously. However, they display diminished capacity to learn and recall new information. This diminishment only lasts for the duration of the intoxication. There is no convincing evidence that heavy long-term marijuana use permanently impairs memory or other cognitive functions.
* Wetzel, C.D. et al., “Remote Memory During Marijuana Intoxication,” Psychopharmacology 76 (1982): 278-81.

* Deadwyler, S.A. et al., “The Effects of Delta-9-THC on Mechanisms of Learning and Memory.” Neurobiology of Drug Abuse: Learning and Memory. Ed. L. Erinoff. Rockville, MD: National Institute on Drug Abuse 1990. 79-83.

* Block, R.I. et al., “Acute Effects of Marijuana on Cognition: Relationships to Chronic Effects and Smoking Techniques.” Pharmacology Biochemistry and Behavior 43 (1992): 907-917.

Myth: Marijuana Causes Crime. Marijuana users commit more property offenses than nonusers. Under the influence of marijuana, people become irrational, aggressive, and violent.
Fact: Every serious scholar and government commission examining the relationship between marijuana use and crime has reached the same conclusion: marijuana does not cause crime. The vast majority of marijuana users do not commit crimes other than the crime of possessing marijuana. Among marijuana users who do commit crimes, marijuana plays no causal role. Almost all human and animal studies show that marijuana decreases rather than increases aggression.

* Fagan, J., et al. “Delinquency and Substance Use Among Inner-City Students.” Journal of Drug Issues 20 (1990): 351-402.

* Johnson, L.D., et al. “Drugs and Delinquency: A Search for Causal Connections.” Ed. D.B. Kandel. Longitudinal Research on Drug Use: Empirical Findings and Methodological Issues. New York: John Wiley & Sons, 1978. 137-156.

* Goode, E. “Marijuana and Crime.” Marihuana: A Signal of Misunderstanding, Appendix I. National Commission on Marihuana and Drug Abuse Washington, DC: U.S. Government Printing Office, 1972. 447-453.

* Abram, K.M. and L.A. Teplin. “Drug Disorder, Mental Illness, and Violence.” Drugs and Violence: Causes, Correlates, and Consequences. Rockville: National Institute on Drug Abuse, 1990. 222-238.

* Cherek, D.R., et al. “Acute Effects of Marijuana Smoking on Aggressive, Escape and Point-Maintained Responding of Male Drug Users.” Psychopharmacology 111 (1993): 163-168.

* Tinklenberg, J.R., et al. “Drugs and criminal assaults by adolescents: A Replication Study.” Journal of Psychoactive Drugs 13 (1981): 277-287.

Myth: Marijuana Interferes With Male and Female Sex Hormones. In both men and women, marijuana can cause infertility. Marijuana retards sexual development in adolescents. It produces feminine characteristics in males and masculine characteristics in females.
Fact: There is no evidence that marijuana causes infertility in men or women. In animal studies, high doses of THC diminish the production of some sex hormones and can impair reproduction. However, most studies of humans have found that marijuana has no impact of sex hormones. In those studies showing an impact, it is modest, temporary, and of no apparent consequence for reproduction. There is no scientific evidence that marijuana delays adolescent sexual development, has feminizing effect on males, or a masculinizing effect on females.

* Parents Resource Institute for Drug Education. Marijuana and Cocaine. Atlanta, GA: PRIDE, 1990.

* Center for Substance Abuse Prevention. Female Adolescents and Marijuana Use; Fact Sheet for Adults. Rockville: U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, 1995.

* Center for Substance Abuse Prevention. Marijuana: Tips for Teens. Rockville: U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, 1995.

* Swan, Neil. “A Look at Marijuana’s Harmful Effects.” NIDA Notes. 9:2 (1994): 16.

* Clinton, President Bill. Speech at Framingham High School. Framingham, Massachusetts. 20 Oct. 1994.

Myth: Marijuana Use During Pregnancy Damages the Fetus. Prenatal marijuana exposure causes birth defects in babies, and, as they grow older, developmental problems. The health and well being of the next generation is threatened by marijuana use by pregnant women.
Fact: Studies of newborns, infants, and children show no consistent physical, developmental, or cognitive deficits related to prenatal marijuana exposure. Marijuana had no reliable impact on birth size, length of gestation, neurological development, or the occurrence of physical abnormalities. The administration of hundreds of tests to older children has revealed only minor differences between offspring of marijuana users and nonusers, and some are positive rather than negative. Two unconfirmed case-control studies identified prenatal marijuana exposure as one of many factors statistically associated with childhood cancer. Given other available evidence, it is highly unlikely that marijuana causes cancer in children.

* Mann, Peggy. The Sad Story of Mary Wanna. NY: Woodmere Press, 1988. 30.

* Fried, Peter. Quoted in “Marijuana: Its Use and Effects.” Prevention Pipeline. 8:5 (1995): 4.

* American Council for Drug Education. Drugs and Pregnancy. Rockville: Phoenix House, 1994.

* Swan, Neil. “A Look at Marijuana’s Harmful Effects.” NIDA Notes. 9. 2 (1994): 16.

* Parents Resource Institute for Drug Education. Marijuana – Effects on the Female. Atlanta, GA: PRIDE, 1996.

Myth: Marijuana Use Impairs the Immune System. Marijuana users are at increased risk of infection, including HIV. AIDS patients are particularly vulnerable to marijuana's immunopathic effects because their immune systems are already suppressed.
Fact: There is no evidence that marijuana users are more susceptible to infections than nonusers. Nor is there evidence that marijuana lowers users' resistance to sexually transmitted diseases. Early studies which showed decreased immune function in cells taken from marijuana users have since been disproved. Animals given extremely large doses of THC and exposed to a virus have higher rates of infection. Such studies have little relevance to humans. Even among people with existing immune disorders, such as AIDS, marijuana use appears to be relatively safe. However, the recent finding of an association between tobacco smoking and lung infection in AIDS patients warrants further research into possible harm from marijuana smoking in immune suppressed persons.

* Parents Resource Institute for Drug Education. Marijuana and Cocaine. Atlanta: PRIDE, 1990.

* Preate, Ernest D. Blowing Away the Marijuana Smokescreen. Scranton: Pennsylvania Office of Attorney General, [no date]: 2.

* Spence, W.R. Marijuana: Its Effects and Hazards. Waco: Health Edco, [no date].

* Voth, Eric A. The International Drug Strategy Institute Position Paper on the Medical Applications of Marijuana. Omaha: Drug Watch International, [no date].

* Drug Watch International. By Any Modern Medical Standard, Marijuana is No Medicine. Omaha: Drug Watch International, [no date].

Myth: Marijuana's Active Ingredient, THC, Gets Trapped in Body Fat. Because THC is released from fat cells slowly, psychoactive effects may last for days or weeks following use. THC's long persistence in the body damages organs that are high in fat content, the brain in particular.
Fact: Many active drugs enter the body's fat cells. What is different (but not unique) about THC is that it exits fat cells slowly. As a result, traces of marijuana can be found in the body for days or weeks following ingestion. However, within a few hours of smoking marijuana, the amount of THC in the brain falls below the concentration required for detectable psychoactivity. The fat cells in which THC lingers are not harmed by the drug's presence, nor is the brain or other organs. The most important consequence of marijuana's slow excretion is that it can be detected in blood, urine, and tissue long after it is used, and long after its psychoactivity has ended.

* Committees of Correspondence. Drug Abuse Newsletter 16 (March 1984).

* Mann, Peggy. Marijuana Alert. New York: McGraw-Hill Book Company. 1985. 184.

* Nahas, Gabriel. "When Friends of Patients Ask About Marihuana." Journal of the American Medical Association 233 (1979): 79.

* DuPont, Robert. Getting Tough on Gateway Drugs. Washington, DC: American Psychiatric Press, 1984. 68.

Myth: Marijuana Use is a Major Cause Of Highway Accidents. Like alcohol, marijuana impairs psychomotor function and decreases driving ability. If marijuana use increases, an increase in of traffic fatalities is inevitable.
Fact: There is no compelling evidence that marijuana contributes substantially to traffic accidents and fatalities. At some doses, marijuana affects perception and psychomotor performances- changes which could impair driving ability. However, in driving studies, marijuana produces little or no car-handling impairment- consistently less than produced by low moderate doses of alcohol and many legal medications. In contrast to alcohol, which tends to increase risky driving practices, marijuana tends to make subjects more cautious. Surveys of fatally injured drivers show that when THC is detected in the blood, alcohol is almost always detected as well. For some individuals, marijuana may play a role in bad driving. The overall rate of highway accidents appears not to be significantly affected by marijuana's widespread use in society.

* Center on Addiction and Substance Abuse. “Legalization: Panacea or Pandora’s Box”. New York. (1995):36.

* Swan, Neil. “A Look at Marijuana’s Harmful Effects.” NIDA Notes. 9.2 (1994): 14.

* Moskowitz, Herbert and Robert Petersen. Marijuana and Driving: A Review. Rockville: American Council for Drug Education, 1982. 7.

* Mann, Peggy. Marijuana Alert. New York: McGraw-Hill, 1985. 265.

Myth: Marijuana Related Hospital Emergencies Are Increasing, Particularly Among Youth. This is evidence that marijuana is much more harmful than most people previously believed.
Fact: Marijuana does not cause overdose deaths. The number of people in hospital emergency rooms who say they have used marijuana has increased. On this basis, the visit may be recorded as marijuana-related even if marijuana had nothing to do with the medical condition preceding the hospital visit. Many more teenagers use marijuana than use drugs such as heroin and cocaine. As a result, when teenagers visit hospital emergency rooms, they report marijuana much more frequently than they report heroin and cocaine. In the large majority of cases when marijuana is mentioned, other drugs are mentioned as well. In 1994, fewer than 2% of drug related emergency room visits involved the use of marijuana.

* Brown, Lee. Quoted in U.S. Department of Health and Human Services Press Release, National Drug Survey Results Released with New Youth Public Education Materials. Rockville: 12 September 1995.

* Shalala, Donna. "Say ‘No’ to Legalization of Marijuana." Wall Street Journal 18 August 1995: A10.

* Shuster, Charles. Quoted in Drug Enforcement Administration. Drug Legalization: Myths and Misconceptions. Washington, DC: U.S. Department of Justice, 1994. 5.

Myth: Marijuana Use Can Be Prevented. Drug education and prevention programs reduced marijuana use during the 1980s. Since then, our commitment has slackened, and marijuana use has been rising. By expanding and intensifying current anti-marijuana messages, we can stop youthful experimentation.
Fact: There is no evidence that anti-drug messages diminish young people's interest in drugs. Anti-drug campaigns in the schools and the media may even make drugs more attractive. Marijuana use among youth declined throughout the 1980s, and began increasing in the 1990s. This increase occurred despite young people's exposure to the most massive anti-marijuana campaign in American history. In a number of other countries, drug education programs are based on a "harm reduction" model, which seeks to reduce the drug-related harm among those young people who do experiment with drugs.

* Center on Addiction and Substance Abuse. "National Survey of American Attitudes on Substance Abuse." New York (1995):28.

* Brown, Lee. Director of National Drug Control Policy, remarks at National Conference on Marijuana Use: Prevention, Treatment, and Research. Sponsored by the National Institute on Drug Abuse, Arlington, VA (July 1995).

* Califano, Joseph A. "Don’t Stop This War." Washington Post 26 May 1996: C7.

* Shalala, Donna. "Marijuana: A Recurring Problem." Prevention Pipeline 8.5 (1995): 2.

* Burke, James. [Partnership for a Drug-Free America]. Interview. MS-NBC with Tom Brokaw. MS-NBC, 3 September 1996.

* Falco, Mathea. The Making of a Drug-Free America: Programs That Work. New York: Times Books, 1992. 202.

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Myth: Marijuana Policy in the Netherlands is a Failure. Dutch law, which allows marijuana to be bought, sold, and used openly, has resulted in increasing rates of marijuana use, particularly in youth.
Fact: The Netherlands' drug policy is the most nonpunitive in Europe. For more than twenty years, Dutch citizens over age eighteen have been permitted to buy and use cannabis (marijuana and hashish) in government-regulated coffee shops. This policy has not resulted in dramatically escalating cannabis use. For most age groups, rates of marijuana use in the Netherlands are similar to those in the United States. However, for young adolescents, rates of marijuana use are lower in the Netherlands than in the United States. The Dutch people overwhelmingly approve of current cannabis policy which seeks to normalize rather than dramatize cannabis use. The Dutch government occasionally revises existing policy, but it remains committed to decriminalization.

* Fromberg, E. “The Case of the Netherlands: Contradictions and Values in Questioning Prohibition.” 1994 International Report on Drugs, Brussels: International Antiprohibitionist League, 1994. 113-124.

* Sandwijk, J.P., et al. Licit and Illicit Drug Use in Amsterdam II. Amsterdam: University of Amsterdam, 1995.

* Gunning, K.F. Crime Rate and Drug Use in Holland. Rotterdam: Dutch National Committee on Drug Prevention. 1993.

Myth: Marijuana Kills Brain Cells. Used over time, marijuana permanently alters brain structure and function, causing memory loss, cognitive impairment, personality deterioration, and reduced productivity.
Fact: None of the medical tests currently used to detect brain damage in humans have found harm from marijuana, even from long term high-dose use. An early study reported brain damage in rhesus monkeys after six months exposure to high concentrations of marijuana smoke. In a recent, more carefully conducted study, researchers found no evidence of brain abnormality in monkeys that were forced to inhale the equivalent of four to five marijuana cigarettes every day for a year. The claim that marijuana kills brain cells is based on a speculative report dating back a quarter of a century that has never been supported by any scientific study.

* Heath, R.G., et al. “Cannabis Sativa: Effects on Brain Function and Ultrastructure in Rhesus Monkeys.” Biological Psychiatry 15 (1980): 657-690.

* Ali, S.F., et al. “Chronic Marijuana Smoke Exposure in the Rhesus Monkey IV: Neurochemical Effects and Comparison to Acute and Chronic Exposure to Delta-9-Tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) in Rats.” Pharmacology Biochemistry and Behavior 40 (1991): 677-82.Myth: Marijuana Impairs Memory and Cognition. Under the influence of marijuana, people are unable to think rationally and intelligently. Chronic marijuana use causes permanent mental impairment.
Fact: Marijuana produces immediate, temporary changes in thoughts, perceptions, and information processing. The cognitive process most clearly affected by marijuana is short-term memory. In laboratory studies, subjects under the influence of marijuana have no trouble remembering things they learned previously. However, they display diminished capacity to learn and recall new information. This diminishment only lasts for the duration of the intoxication. There is no convincing evidence that heavy long-term marijuana use permanently impairs memory or other cognitive functions.
* Wetzel, C.D. et al., “Remote Memory During Marijuana Intoxication,” Psychopharmacology 76 (1982): 278-81.

* Deadwyler, S.A. et al., “The Effects of Delta-9-THC on Mechanisms of Learning and Memory.” Neurobiology of Drug Abuse: Learning and Memory. Ed. L. Erinoff. Rockville, MD: National Institute on Drug Abuse 1990. 79-83.

* Block, R.I. et al., “Acute Effects of Marijuana on Cognition: Relationships to Chronic Effects and Smoking Techniques.” Pharmacology Biochemistry and Behavior 43 (1992): 907-917.

Myth: Marijuana Causes Crime. Marijuana users commit more property offenses than nonusers. Under the influence of marijuana, people become irrational, aggressive, and violent.
Fact: Every serious scholar and government commission examining the relationship between marijuana use and crime has reached the same conclusion: marijuana does not cause crime. The vast majority of marijuana users do not commit crimes other than the crime of possessing marijuana. Among marijuana users who do commit crimes, marijuana plays no causal role. Almost all human and animal studies show that marijuana decreases rather than increases aggression.

* Fagan, J., et al. “Delinquency and Substance Use Among Inner-City Students.” Journal of Drug Issues 20 (1990): 351-402.

* Johnson, L.D., et al. “Drugs and Delinquency: A Search for Causal Connections.” Ed. D.B. Kandel. Longitudinal Research on Drug Use: Empirical Findings and Methodological Issues. New York: John Wiley & Sons, 1978. 137-156.

* Goode, E. “Marijuana and Crime.” Marihuana: A Signal of Misunderstanding, Appendix I. National Commission on Marihuana and Drug Abuse Washington, DC: U.S. Government Printing Office, 1972. 447-453.

* Abram, K.M. and L.A. Teplin. “Drug Disorder, Mental Illness, and Violence.” Drugs and Violence: Causes, Correlates, and Consequences. Rockville: National Institute on Drug Abuse, 1990. 222-238.

* Cherek, D.R., et al. “Acute Effects of Marijuana Smoking on Aggressive, Escape and Point-Maintained Responding of Male Drug Users.” Psychopharmacology 111 (1993): 163-168.

* Tinklenberg, J.R., et al. “Drugs and criminal assaults by adolescents: A Replication Study.” Journal of Psychoactive Drugs 13 (1981): 277-287.

Myth: Marijuana Interferes With Male and Female Sex Hormones. In both men and women, marijuana can cause infertility. Marijuana retards sexual development in adolescents. It produces feminine characteristics in males and masculine characteristics in females.
Fact: There is no evidence that marijuana causes infertility in men or women. In animal studies, high doses of THC diminish the production of some sex hormones and can impair reproduction. However, most studies of humans have found that marijuana has no impact of sex hormones. In those studies showing an impact, it is modest, temporary, and of no apparent consequence for reproduction. There is no scientific evidence that marijuana delays adolescent sexual development, has feminizing effect on males, or a masculinizing effect on females.

* Parents Resource Institute for Drug Education. Marijuana and Cocaine. Atlanta, GA: PRIDE, 1990.

* Center for Substance Abuse Prevention. Female Adolescents and Marijuana Use; Fact Sheet for Adults. Rockville: U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, 1995.

* Center for Substance Abuse Prevention. Marijuana: Tips for Teens. Rockville: U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, 1995.

* Swan, Neil. “A Look at Marijuana’s Harmful Effects.” NIDA Notes. 9:2 (1994): 16.

* Clinton, President Bill. Speech at Framingham High School. Framingham, Massachusetts. 20 Oct. 1994.

Myth: Marijuana Use During Pregnancy Damages the Fetus. Prenatal marijuana exposure causes birth defects in babies, and, as they grow older, developmental problems. The health and well being of the next generation is threatened by marijuana use by pregnant women.
Fact: Studies of newborns, infants, and children show no consistent physical, developmental, or cognitive deficits related to prenatal marijuana exposure. Marijuana had no reliable impact on birth size, length of gestation, neurological development, or the occurrence of physical abnormalities. The administration of hundreds of tests to older children has revealed only minor differences between offspring of marijuana users and nonusers, and some are positive rather than negative. Two unconfirmed case-control studies identified prenatal marijuana exposure as one of many factors statistically associated with childhood cancer. Given other available evidence, it is highly unlikely that marijuana causes cancer in children.

* Mann, Peggy. The Sad Story of Mary Wanna. NY: Woodmere Press, 1988. 30.

* Fried, Peter. Quoted in “Marijuana: Its Use and Effects.” Prevention Pipeline. 8:5 (1995): 4.

* American Council for Drug Education. Drugs and Pregnancy. Rockville: Phoenix House, 1994.

* Swan, Neil. “A Look at Marijuana’s Harmful Effects.” NIDA Notes. 9. 2 (1994): 16.

* Parents Resource Institute for Drug Education. Marijuana – Effects on the Female. Atlanta, GA: PRIDE, 1996.

Myth: Marijuana Use Impairs the Immune System. Marijuana users are at increased risk of infection, including HIV. AIDS patients are particularly vulnerable to marijuana's immunopathic effects because their immune systems are already suppressed.
Fact: There is no evidence that marijuana users are more susceptible to infections than nonusers. Nor is there evidence that marijuana lowers users' resistance to sexually transmitted diseases. Early studies which showed decreased immune function in cells taken from marijuana users have since been disproved. Animals given extremely large doses of THC and exposed to a virus have higher rates of infection. Such studies have little relevance to humans. Even among people with existing immune disorders, such as AIDS, marijuana use appears to be relatively safe. However, the recent finding of an association between tobacco smoking and lung infection in AIDS patients warrants further research into possible harm from marijuana smoking in immune suppressed persons.

* Parents Resource Institute for Drug Education. Marijuana and Cocaine. Atlanta: PRIDE, 1990.

* Preate, Ernest D. Blowing Away the Marijuana Smokescreen. Scranton: Pennsylvania Office of Attorney General, [no date]: 2.

* Spence, W.R. Marijuana: Its Effects and Hazards. Waco: Health Edco, [no date].

* Voth, Eric A. The International Drug Strategy Institute Position Paper on the Medical Applications of Marijuana. Omaha: Drug Watch International, [no date].

* Drug Watch International. By Any Modern Medical Standard, Marijuana is No Medicine. Omaha: Drug Watch International, [no date].

Myth: Marijuana's Active Ingredient, THC, Gets Trapped in Body Fat. Because THC is released from fat cells slowly, psychoactive effects may last for days or weeks following use. THC's long persistence in the body damages organs that are high in fat content, the brain in particular.
Fact: Many active drugs enter the body's fat cells. What is different (but not unique) about THC is that it exits fat cells slowly. As a result, traces of marijuana can be found in the body for days or weeks following ingestion. However, within a few hours of smoking marijuana, the amount of THC in the brain falls below the concentration required for detectable psychoactivity. The fat cells in which THC lingers are not harmed by the drug's presence, nor is the brain or other organs. The most important consequence of marijuana's slow excretion is that it can be detected in blood, urine, and tissue long after it is used, and long after its psychoactivity has ended.

* Committees of Correspondence. Drug Abuse Newsletter 16 (March 1984).

* Mann, Peggy. Marijuana Alert. New York: McGraw-Hill Book Company. 1985. 184.

* Nahas, Gabriel. "When Friends of Patients Ask About Marihuana." Journal of the American Medical Association 233 (1979): 79.

* DuPont, Robert. Getting Tough on Gateway Drugs. Washington, DC: American Psychiatric Press, 1984. 68.

Myth: Marijuana Use is a Major Cause Of Highway Accidents. Like alcohol, marijuana impairs psychomotor function and decreases driving ability. If marijuana use increases, an increase in of traffic fatalities is inevitable.
Fact: There is no compelling evidence that marijuana contributes substantially to traffic accidents and fatalities. At some doses, marijuana affects perception and psychomotor performances- changes which could impair driving ability. However, in driving studies, marijuana produces little or no car-handling impairment- consistently less than produced by low moderate doses of alcohol and many legal medications. In contrast to alcohol, which tends to increase risky driving practices, marijuana tends to make subjects more cautious. Surveys of fatally injured drivers show that when THC is detected in the blood, alcohol is almost always detected as well. For some individuals, marijuana may play a role in bad driving. The overall rate of highway accidents appears not to be significantly affected by marijuana's widespread use in society.

* Center on Addiction and Substance Abuse. “Legalization: Panacea or Pandora’s Box”. New York. (1995):36.

* Swan, Neil. “A Look at Marijuana’s Harmful Effects.” NIDA Notes. 9.2 (1994): 14.

* Moskowitz, Herbert and Robert Petersen. Marijuana and Driving: A Review. Rockville: American Council for Drug Education, 1982. 7.

* Mann, Peggy. Marijuana Alert. New York: McGraw-Hill, 1985. 265.

Myth: Marijuana Related Hospital Emergencies Are Increasing, Particularly Among Youth. This is evidence that marijuana is much more harmful than most people previously believed.
Fact: Marijuana does not cause overdose deaths. The number of people in hospital emergency rooms who say they have used marijuana has increased. On this basis, the visit may be recorded as marijuana-related even if marijuana had nothing to do with the medical condition preceding the hospital visit. Many more teenagers use marijuana than use drugs such as heroin and cocaine. As a result, when teenagers visit hospital emergency rooms, they report marijuana much more frequently than they report heroin and cocaine. In the large majority of cases when marijuana is mentioned, other drugs are mentioned as well. In 1994, fewer than 2% of drug related emergency room visits involved the use of marijuana.

* Brown, Lee. Quoted in U.S. Department of Health and Human Services Press Release, National Drug Survey Results Released with New Youth Public Education Materials. Rockville: 12 September 1995.

* Shalala, Donna. "Say ‘No’ to Legalization of Marijuana." Wall Street Journal 18 August 1995: A10.

* Shuster, Charles. Quoted in Drug Enforcement Administration. Drug Legalization: Myths and Misconceptions. Washington, DC: U.S. Department of Justice, 1994. 5.

Myth: Marijuana Use Can Be Prevented. Drug education and prevention programs reduced marijuana use during the 1980s. Since then, our commitment has slackened, and marijuana use has been rising. By expanding and intensifying current anti-marijuana messages, we can stop youthful experimentation.
Fact: There is no evidence that anti-drug messages diminish young people's interest in drugs. Anti-drug campaigns in the schools and the media may even make drugs more attractive. Marijuana use among youth declined throughout the 1980s, and began increasing in the 1990s. This increase occurred despite young people's exposure to the most massive anti-marijuana campaign in American history. In a number of other countries, drug education programs are based on a "harm reduction" model, which seeks to reduce the drug-related harm among those young people who do experiment with drugs.

* Center on Addiction and Substance Abuse. "National Survey of American Attitudes on Substance Abuse." New York (1995):28.

* Brown, Lee. Director of National Drug Control Policy, remarks at National Conference on Marijuana Use: Prevention, Treatment, and Research. Sponsored by the National Institute on Drug Abuse, Arlington, VA (July 1995).

* Califano, Joseph A. "Don’t Stop This War." Washington Post 26 May 1996: C7.

* Shalala, Donna. "Marijuana: A Recurring Problem." Prevention Pipeline 8.5 (1995): 2.

* Burke, James. [Partnership for a Drug-Free America]. Interview. MS-NBC with Tom Brokaw. MS-NBC, 3 September 1996.

* Falco, Mathea. The Making of a Drug-Free America: Programs That Work. New York: Times Books, 1992. 202.http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x249/Echonova1/obama.jpg

[quickdodge®]

NEW MOVIE!!! Later, QD.

[Echonova]

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[quickdodge®]

Say whaaaaaaa? Later, QD.

[ATL_EG]

so many pics gettin saved in this thread!!!

[Echonova]

Say whaaaaaaa? Later, QD.http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x249/Echonova1/Old-Seaman.jpg

[RandomGuy]

Qdizzle, in all seriousness...

So you say you have no respect for users- because of their disregard for authority/law.... What about people whom it is not illegal to consume marijuana? Ie medical use, or recreational use in Amsterdam, for example...

[tmracing83]

Hey

Later,QD

[Echonova]

This is the problem with people that smoke weed, they are easily distracted by pretty pictures.
http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x249/Echonova1/myspace-graphics-animations18.gif

[ATL_EG]

i must ask you qd, why do you feel the need to uphold all these laws as you keep saying?
serious question.

[tmracing83]

so many pics gettin saved in this thread!!!



I love it! They have soo many.

[RandomGuy]

...

[Echonova]

http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x249/Echonova1/Smile_small-1.jpg

[quickdodge®]

Qdizzle, in all seriousness...

So you say you have no respect for users- because of their disregard for authority/law.... What about people whom it is not illegal to consume marijuana? Ie medical use, or recreational use in Amsterdam, for example...

If it's legal then there's nothing to say. I hate alcohol but I don't say anything about people getting drunk because alcohol is legal.


i must ask you qd, why do you feel the need to uphold all these laws as you keep saying?
serious question.
Hmmm. Why not? What's wrong with living within the law? Kind of a weird question really. It would have been better if I asked you why you feel the need to break the law? Later, QD.

[quickdodge®]

Do they? Later, QD.

[RandomGuy]

If it's legal then there's nothing to say. I hate alcohol but I don't say anything about people getting drunk because alcohol is legal.
Understandable...


if living by the law was my first priority.

In my thought process, morality and ethics come into play long before legality.

[tmracing83]

[QUOTE=quickdodge®;38419941]If it's legal then there's nothing to say. I hate alcohol but I don't say anything about people getting drunk because alcohol is legal.






I dont see why you don't talk about them too. You talk shit to everyone, about anything. Serious question though QD for real. When people get drunk their are highly impaired, unlike weed if you were the highest I've ever been u could still walk a straight line, drive fine , etc u get the point.... Marijuana is honestly have as bad in a real sense than alcohol. People actually get help from smoking weed. Why hate on everyone so much just cause we smoke bud. It's not like were all smoking crack with 5 year olds like u play it off to be. I guess my whole point it when it's legal in a few years are u still going to be a little bitch about just because it's a drug? On a scale of which if overall worse weed<alcohol. Which takes thousands of lives a year?

[Echonova]

I ride the fence when it comes to weed. I don't do it, but it doesn't bother me what people do in their own homes. Just like alcohol, don't drive while you're high, or smoke around the kids/underage blah, blah blah...

I mean, it's a plant, the chemically altered drugs that take one thing and make it into something more potent (IE:meth, heroin, crack etc) is where I draw the line.

[quickdodge®]

if living by the law was my first priority.

In my thought process, morality and ethics come into play long before legality.

I guess. If you think morals and ethics have nothing to do with the laws. I happen to think they do.


I dont see why you don't talk about them too. You talk shit to everyone, about anything. Serious question though QD for real. When people get drunk their are highly impaired, unlike weed if you were the highest I've ever been u could still walk a straight line, drive fine , etc u get the point.... Marijuana is honestly have as bad in a real sense than alcohol. People actually get help from smoking weed. Why hate on everyone so much just cause we smoke bud. It's not like were all smoking crack with 5 year olds like u play it off to be. I guess my whole point it when it's legal in a few years are u still going to be a little bitch about just because it's a drug? On a scale of which if overall worse weed<alcohol. Which takes thousands of lives a year?

Need a job? Son? Lolol. Beg for it, Boy. Later, QD.

[Echonova]

I dont see why you don't talk about them too. You talk shit to everyone, about anything. Serious question though QD for real. When people get drunk their are highly impaired, unlike weed if you were the highest I've ever been u could still walk a straight line, drive fine , etc u get the point.... Marijuana is honestly have as bad in a real sense than alcohol. People actually get help from smoking weed. Why hate on everyone so much just cause we smoke bud. It's not like were all smoking crack with 5 year olds like u play it off to be. I guess my whole point it when it's legal in a few years are u still going to be a little bitch about just because it's a drug? On a scale of which if overall worse weed<alcohol. Which takes thousands of lives a year?No



http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x249/Echonova1/637f2d33.gif

[tmracing83]

I drive way better, I'm more aware
Of surrounding

[ATL_EG]

If it's legal then there's nothing to say. I hate alcohol but I don't say anything about people getting drunk because alcohol is legal.


Hmmm. Why not? What's wrong with living within the law? Kind of a weird question really. It would have been better if I asked you why you feel the need to break the law? Later, QD.

I just find it kind of absurd to live within laws that OTHER MEN set. what gives them the authority to tell me how to live MY life?

[tmracing83]

Couldn't even be serious for one quick answer huh. Damn.


Later, QD

[Echonova]

I drive way better, I'm more aware
Of surroundingI guess that's why all the F1 drivers do it.

[quickdodge®]

I just find it kind of absurd to live within laws that OTHER MEN set. what gives them the authority to tell me how to live MY life?

Well that's you, I guess. My life is great, so no reason to think differently. Much rather have order than chaos. But that's just me.


Couldn't even be serious for one quick answer huh. Damn.

Not for you, no. You're an idiot.


I drive way better, I'm more aware
Of surrounding

Hopefully it'll catch up to you, soon, and you fuck yourself up. Later, QD.

[RandomGuy]

I guess. If you think morals and ethics have nothing to do with the laws. I happen to think they do.

thats the superficial perspective of what I was saying.

I think that morals and ethics are COMPLETELY SEPARATE from laws. Some laws are derived from them, but all laws are tangible, even to a factual level. Every piece of jurisdiction is clearly defined (or at least an attempt is made to) and is completely external and man-made.

On the flip-side, I consider morality an internal thought process. Its part of human psychology, it has existed long before government has.
Not only will they differ from individual to individual, but two different judgments can be "the right judgment" in two different scenarios.

Laws <> Morality

Sure people study ethics in order create legislature, but then again to who's model of ethics are they using? Does it differ from yours?

Sure our country was built on principles of Morality, but that legislation and what we're talking about are completely divergent.

but aside from all of that, dizzle...
I respectfully disagree with your standpoint.

I am not a super weed-supporter or anything, I too find many flaws in it, directly relating to productivity while under the influence. I do not feel it should be banned, simply because I don't think the offenders did anything immoral in consuming it. (from a health, social, psychological, financial standpoint)... What makes it immoral is the ban itself, which gives more power to violent drug cartels,etc.... which brings me to my main point..

I personally believe that Marijuana is intentionally prohibited to maximize profits of those with vested interests. (My honest opinion, call me a conspiracy theorist, I don't care)

[ATL_EG]

Well that's you, I guess. My life is great, so no reason to think differently. Much rather have order than chaos. But that's just me.



Not for you, no. You're an idiot.



Hopefully it'll catch up to you, soon, and you fuck yourself up. Later, QD.

and i can respect that :goodjob:

[tmracing83]

I just find it kind of absurd to live within laws that OTHER MEN set. what gives them the authority to tell me how to live MY life?




Thankyou

[ATL_EG]

lol this just in (32 minutes ago)
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091020/ap_on_re_us/us_medical_marijuana

don't let obama get ya! lying piece of shit

[RandomGuy]

don't let obama get ya! lying piece of shit
no its just funny, I logged into my yahoo email and that one was the top article... either its a coincidence or some sort of tracking cookie type of targeted marketing bullshit

[tmracing83]

Well that's you, I guess. My life is great, so no reason to think differently. Much rather have order than chaos. But that's just me.



Not for you, no. You're an idiot.



Hopefully it'll catch up to you, soon, and you fuck yourself up. Later, QD.



Wow ur some bastard QD. Do everyone a favor and go kill urself

[Lankhoss]

Can we get back to women trading me booby and pooper shots for a bowl?

[03RCode]

Can we get back to women trading me booby and pooper shots for a bowl?



:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:

[PSINXS]

weed was even legal in the 1930s. but all the uses from the male plant aka hemp, nearly shut down the textile industry lol

my thought is that its illegal because it could eradicate a lot of profits for textile producers.

[tmracing83]

weed was even legal in the 1930s. but all the uses from the male plant aka hemp, nearly shut down the textile industry lol

my thought is that its illegal because it could eradicate a lot of profits for textile producers.

Sounds old enought to me lol. It would only be smart for them to legalize it throughout the while country. It was California's cash crop last year. They made like 61 billion dollars off of it in '08.

Imagie what the whole country could make...

[Lankhoss]

weed was even legal in the 1930s. but all the uses from the male plant aka hemp, nearly shut down the textile industry lol

my thought is that its illegal because it could eradicate a lot of profits for textile producers.


Yup.

I hate sounding like a conspiracy theorist, but it seems like the older I get the more clear "the way things work" become to me. Pot is practically harmless, and impairs you less than lots of other "legal" things out there do as well, so there is really no argument towards its illegalization from a "danger to society" standpoint. There are also foods and other legal substances out there that can be more harmful to you than weed, as well. So while I won't claim to know exactly why we have the laws that we do, I can say that there is DEFINITELY evidence that certain people have a lot of monetary gain (or lack of competition) with it being prohibited.

[Echonova]

weed was even legal in the 1930s. but all the uses from the male plant aka hemp, nearly shut down the textile industry lol

my thought is that its illegal because it could eradicate a lot of profits for textile producers.Wouldn't matter much anymore, most of the textile industry jobs have fled overseas.

[tmracing83]

i love how everyday at around 10 or 11pm this thread dies till the next day lol

[BluesClues]

Can we get back to women trading me booby and pooper shots for a bowl?
:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:

[BluesClues]

i love how everyday at around 10 or 11pm this thread dies till the next day lol
Everyone got high, had the munchies, and is now sleep lol

[FAM0U5]

lame..

[BluesClues]

lame..
I know you are but what am I?

[BluesClues]

^^^ :lmfao:

Man that looks like some killer bud!

[Benefit]

haaaaaaaaaa

[FAM0U5]

does that say later QD? but the d is all gangsterfied?

[BluesClues]

does that say later QD? but the d is all gangsterfied?
I don't believe so. It looks like a delta sign :dunno:

[BluesClues]

when i was searching on google, i typed "later, Q(triangle)"
Oooooooooooo

[FAM0U5]

Oooooooooooo

kinda like a D

[Lankhoss]

:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:

Hey!! I still don't have any pictures! :(

[BluesClues]

Hey!! I still don't have any pictures! :(
Check your reps!

[BluesClues]

kinda like a D
:no:

[Lankhoss]

Check your reps!

Oh my!! :crazy::crazy::crazy::crazy::crazy:

[BluesClues]

Oh my!! :crazy::crazy::crazy::crazy::crazy:
LOL

[FAM0U5]

Oh my!! :crazy::crazy::crazy::crazy::crazy:

I have a better one :ninja: that she gave me :)

[Lankhoss]

I have a better one :ninja: that she gave me :)

Pffffft, you don't know what she gave me!!! It was special, and only her and I will ever see it!

[FAM0U5]

Pffffft, you don't know what she gave me!!! It was special, and only her and I will ever see it!

uhm im on the phone with her and I know everything :p

[Me86Rob]

Pffffft, you don't know what she gave me!!! It was special, and only her and I will ever see it!
:(

[BluesClues]

Guys, Guys, chill. Can't we all just get along :D

[thegovanator]

http://img2.timeinc.net/ew/dynamic/imgs/080612/cleveland_l.jpg

HEY Y'ALL

[FAM0U5]

Guys, Guys, chill. Can't we all just get along :D

I dont play well with others...:taun:

[Me86Rob]

upping my post count

[thegovanator]

So do you play well with yourself then?

[BluesClues]

I dont play well with others...:taun:
Well you should learn!

[Lankhoss]

BluesClues makes me play well with myself.

[thegovanator]

^lolz

[BluesClues]

BluesClues makes me play well with myself.
OMG!!!!!!!!! :eek:

[FAM0U5]

So do you play well with yourself then?

uhm yea..

[Me86Rob]

BluesClues makes me play well with myself.
dude is that what I hear back there? http://i35.tinypic.com/2u6ogpd.jpg

[Lankhoss]

OMG!!!!!!!!! :eek:

You keep this up baybee, and I'll save you some Salvia.

[thegovanator]

Salvia is shit

[Lankhoss]

Salvia is the shit

Yes. Go 60X + or go home!

[thegovanator]

Hahaha nice edit. Honestly I get the strong shit and it really doesn't affect me

[BluesClues]

You keep this up baybee, and I'll save you some Salvia.
What is salvia?

dude is that what I hear back there? http://i35.tinypic.com/2u6ogpd.jpg
Repped too many in 24 hours!!!!! :lmfao:


uhm yea..

Why would you tell everyone you play with yourself?

[Lankhoss]

That stuff removes my soul from my body for about 3 minutes, then ices me over.

[Lankhoss]

What is salvia?

Repped too many in 24 hours!!!!! :lmfao:



Why would you tell everyone you play with yourself?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salvia_divinorum

It's some pretty crazy stuff...and we've still got a couple bowls left :)

[Me86Rob]

Repped too many in 24 hours!!!!! :lmfao:



i wanted wha brad got :(

[Lankhoss]

Man, can't you ever update my quotes in your sig without making a typo??????

[thegovanator]

Whatd this person get?

[BluesClues]

i wanted wha brad got :(Awwww I sowey :cry:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salvia_divinorum

It's some pretty crazy stuff...and we've still got a couple bowls left :)
Couldn't pull up link, but I will take your word for it :goodjob:

[Me86Rob]

Awwww I sowey :cry:




Aw its straight. I'll just have to hook you up with my email ;) ;)

[FAM0U5]

Why would you tell everyone you play with yourself?

Im just a boy playing with his dick when he's nervous.

[BluesClues]

Im just a boy playing with his dick when he's nervous.
KENNY!!!!!!

[thegovanator]

Kenny?
http://blogs.trb.com/features/family/parenting/blog/kenny.jpg

[BluesClues]

Kenny?
http://blogs.trb.com/features/family/parenting/blog/kenny.jpg

Only if he were mexican

[Me86Rob]

hey hey nothin wrong with messicans now. I like me a lil latina action every now and then

[thegovanator]

haha, I love latinas, the good looking ones

[BluesClues]

hey hey nothin wrong with messicans now. I like me a lil latina action every now and then
I LOVE HISPANICS!!!!! hence why I am talking to this mexican on the phone lol :D

[BluesClues]

Alright, going to bed. I shall be back when I wake. NIght night!

[Me86Rob]

I LOVE HISPANICS!!!!! hence why I am talking to this mexican on the phone lol :D
haha. why dont you get on AIM?

[Lankhoss]

This feels like that AIM chatroom I get invited to from time to time.

[BluesClues]

haha. why dont you get on AIM?
I am about to go to bed. Holla

[Lankhoss]

I am about to go to bed. Holla

Well, I think he was...ahhh....trying to, uh....holla.

[thegovanator]

^Lirl

[Me86Rob]

Well, I think he was...ahhh....trying to, uh....holla.
you know me too well.

[BluesClues]

^^^ Oh my bad lol

[tmracing83]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salvia_divinorum

It's some pretty crazy stuff...and we've still got a couple bowls left :)

do you laugh ur ass off when u smoke salvia? Please tell me ur smokin the exract and not the leaves.. Salvia is always a fun litttle experience...

[tmracing83]

SALVIA DIVINORUM.

Discuss your expieriences.

[Lankhoss]

All my friends laugh their asses off. I mean, they laugh harder than they ever could sober.

I've only done it 3 times, and I've had similar bad experiences everytime....so I just don't do it anymore. Of course, it was always 80X that I did.....but even if I went with something weaker, I dunno if it would matter. EVERY effect was uncomfortable to me.

First time I didn't quite get a good enough hit, and I just felt that "pushing" sensation against my body. I felt VERY stir crazy, yet exhausted at the same time...so it was very uncomfortable. Every person or animal that I was aware of around me irritated me. Then afterwards, I went from being drenched in sweat to getting FREEZING cold.

The next 2 times I did it "correctly" and tripped my ass off. First time, I kept thinking I was being followed and my friends were laughing at me. The laughing INFURIATED me, I mean straight down to the pit of my anger, and I screamed at one of my friends and was literally about to jump on him and rip his face off. Last time I did it, I made sure I didn't have a room full of friends, I turned the lights and TV's off, I sat with just my roommate and told him not to talk to me. So that time, I felt like my face was being shoved into a white curtain, and I not only couldn't breathe but I couldn't see anything. Again, I got infuriated with my roommate because he wasn't "helping" me, so I screamed again and was all pissed off. After that trip, I got so cold my fingers were icey to the touch, and even though it was summer I went and took a scalding hot shower until the hot water started running out.

My experiences with Salvia are VERY different from anyone else I've seen. I'm the only one who literally has not a single pleasant reaction, and it sucks. I've pretty much given up on it, for now at least.

[Me86Rob]

checking in from Gwinnett county state court lol

[Lankhoss]

checking in from Gwinnett county state court lol

You want me to bring you a bowl of Salvia?

[§treet_§peed]

i like salvia

[§treet_§peed]

don't like weed cause i always seem to get paranoid. only smoke it like three or four times since i was 16. now before that i smoke like 4-7 times a day every day lol.

[tmracing83]

That sucks... Ya everytime I just laughed my ass off and had out of body experiences... Everything goes black for a good minute. 1 time
I was literally flying around town while really blacked out. But ya salvias crAzy lol but ya anyways. I got that half. It's really got a chance at being some off the best mids in GA!!!







All my friends laugh their asses off. I mean, they laugh harder than they ever could sober.

I've only done it 3 times, and I've had similar bad experiences everytime....so I just don't do it anymore. Of course, it was always 80X that I did.....but even if I went with something weaker, I dunno if it would matter. EVERY effect was uncomfortable to me.

First time I didn't quite get a good enough hit, and I just felt that "pushing" sensation against my body. I felt VERY stir crazy, yet exhausted at the same time...so it was very uncomfortable. Every person or animal that I was aware of around me irritated me. Then afterwards, I went from being drenched in sweat to getting FREEZING cold.

The next 2 times I did it "correctly" and tripped my ass off. First time, I kept thinking I was being followed and my friends were laughing at me. The laughing INFURIATED me, I mean straight down to the pit of my anger, and I screamed at one of my friends and was literally about to jump on him and rip his face off. Last time I did it, I made sure I didn't have a room full of friends, I turned the lights and TV's off, I sat with just my roommate and told him not to talk to me. So that time, I felt like my face was being shoved into a white curtain, and I not only couldn't breathe but I couldn't see anything. Again, I got infuriated with my roommate because he wasn't "helping" me, so I screamed again and was all pissed off. After that trip, I got so cold my fingers were icey to the touch, and even though it was summer I went and took a scalding hot shower until the hot water started running out.

My experiences with Salvia are VERY different from anyone else I've seen. I'm the only one who literally has not a single pleasant reaction, and it sucks. I've pretty much given up on it, for now at least.

[tmracing83]

don't like weed cause i always seem to get paranoid. only smoke it like three or four times since i was 16. now before that i smoke like 4-7 times a day every day lol.

Ya paranioa blows. It's one of the main aide effects of marijuana... I'm always paranoid when I'm getting High.

[§treet_§peed]

lol i get all fucked up tho. im all like imma get caught imma get caught. then i start talking to myself in the head and i can't shut the fuck up for anything in the world.

[Lankhoss]

The paranoia is one of the things that drew me to pot, to be honest with you. I am a pretty uptight, high anxiety person...I know that can be bad with pot sometimes. My 3rd time smoking, I had a HORRIBLE paranoia high, and was so fucked up I didn't know what was going on. It only lasted for about 20 minutes, but felt like hours.

It made me not want to do it again, then I started thinking about it....and I started smoking again, to see if I could control it. Took me a couple weeks of "cautiously" getting high to get a handle on it. As you know, your mental state has a HUGE affect on your high. So I'd basically have this "don't let yourself get too bad" and "keep yourself calm" attitude going into it. So for a while, I'd just sit there, and not talk to anyone. As I became more and more comfortable with it, I was able to loosen up and REALLY enjoy the high. At that point, I could get completely mind fucked, and still not feel bad. The paranoia is there, but I KNOW it's just my mind playing tricks with me....and it allows me to just not really indulge in it.

So what's the point of all of this? Well, I've noticed that putting myself in that stressful paranoid situation and forcing myself to be able to handle it and enjoy myself, has REALLY made a huge impact on my anxiety on a day-to-day basis, and has made me much more calm, pleasant, and less paranoid while I'm sober. I've also become more outgoing and social, and find myself simply feeling more "free" in general.

[BluesClues]

All my friends laugh their asses off. I mean, they laugh harder than they ever could sober.

I've only done it 3 times, and I've had similar bad experiences everytime....so I just don't do it anymore. Of course, it was always 80X that I did.....but even if I went with something weaker, I dunno if it would matter. EVERY effect was uncomfortable to me.

First time I didn't quite get a good enough hit, and I just felt that "pushing" sensation against my body. I felt VERY stir crazy, yet exhausted at the same time...so it was very uncomfortable. Every person or animal that I was aware of around me irritated me. Then afterwards, I went from being drenched in sweat to getting FREEZING cold.

The next 2 times I did it "correctly" and tripped my ass off. First time, I kept thinking I was being followed and my friends were laughing at me. The laughing INFURIATED me, I mean straight down to the pit of my anger, and I screamed at one of my friends and was literally about to jump on him and rip his face off. Last time I did it, I made sure I didn't have a room full of friends, I turned the lights and TV's off, I sat with just my roommate and told him not to talk to me. So that time, I felt like my face was being shoved into a white curtain, and I not only couldn't breathe but I couldn't see anything. Again, I got infuriated with my roommate because he wasn't "helping" me, so I screamed again and was all pissed off. After that trip, I got so cold my fingers were icey to the touch, and even though it was summer I went and took a scalding hot shower until the hot water started running out.

My experiences with Salvia are VERY different from anyone else I've seen. I'm the only one who literally has not a single pleasant reaction, and it sucks. I've pretty much given up on it, for now at least.

So why would you want me to do it? That's the main reason I don't roll anymore. Last experience fucked me up. The way you are explaining this silvia stuff reminds me of it

[BluesClues]

The paranoia is one of the things that drew me to pot, to be honest with you. I am a pretty uptight, high anxiety person...I know that can be bad with pot sometimes. My 3rd time smoking, I had a HORRIBLE paranoia high, and was so fucked up I didn't know what was going on. It only lasted for about 20 minutes, but felt like hours.

It made me not want to do it again, then I started thinking about it....and I started smoking again, to see if I could control it. Took me a couple weeks of "cautiously" getting high to get a handle on it. As you know, your mental state has a HUGE affect on your high. So I'd basically have this "don't let yourself get too bad" and "keep yourself calm" attitude going into it. So for a while, I'd just sit there, and not talk to anyone. As I became more and more comfortable with it, I was able to loosen up and REALLY enjoy the high. At that point, I could get completely mind fucked, and still not feel bad. The paranoia is there, but I KNOW it's just my mind playing tricks with me....and it allows me to just not really indulge in it.

So what's the point of all of this? Well, I've noticed that putting myself in that stressful paranoid situation and forcing myself to be able to handle it and enjoy myself, has REALLY made a huge impact on my anxiety on a day-to-day basis, and has made me much more calm, pleasant, and less paranoid while I'm sober. I've also become more outgoing and social, and find myself simply feeling more "free" in general.
You know what? I can totally relate! I must say weed has helped me out the same way. I am really shy and I used to get really paranoid when I smoked. I felt like everyone around me knew I was high even if they didn't know me. It felt like everyone was starring at me talking about me. After awhile I got a hold on it. I am now a way more social person even when sober. It's not so hard for me to talk to random people. My main reason for getting high and going to social events (car meets, parties, hanging out, etc.).

[tmracing83]

Marijuana is God's gift. It can do zoo many things. You've just got to realize it.

[Me86Rob]

FML

[Lankhoss]

So why would you want me to do it? That's the main reason I don't roll anymore. Last experience fucked me up. The way you are explaining this silvia stuff reminds me of it

I am the minority with my experiences. I've personally witnessed 7 other people around me do it, and all had good experiences....all being pretty similar.

I read where they did a study on 500 people who used Salvia, and they recorded the effects everyone experienced. Only 1.6% of the sample said they felt colder after the trip was over, yet I get COMPLETELY ICY COLD FREEZING 100% of the time.

It might just be a drug that doesn't mesh well with me. Just like with pot, I've heard people tell me they tried it and it caused some really weird reactions that aren't the least bit normal, and they won't smoke it. I still don't blame the drug, I think it's just something in my subconscious that gets in the way of me enjoying that one drug in particular.

And this is the beauty of "experimenting." If something enligthening happens to me, that changes my train of thought, attitude, personality, or something else.....then I may try it again and see how the results are. I guess I look at it as a way of trying to bring peace to my subconscience.

[BluesClues]

Ok, so here likes to have sex on weed? Man that is the best sex of my life!!!!!!! Never felt so good before :goodjob:
What is it about weed that makes everything feel so good? I mean taking a shower feels good high. Not the same with alcohol. I could care less for sex when drunk. It doesn't add to the sensation and it's harder for me to get off. I normally get bored before I do lol

[Lankhoss]

Ok, so here likes to have sex on weed? Man that is the best sex of my life!!!!!!! Never felt so good before :goodjob:
What is it about weed that makes everything feel so good? I mean taking a shower feels good high. Not the same with alcohol. I could care less for sex when drunk. It doesn't add to the sensation and it's harder for me to get off. I normally get bored before I do lol

Um, yes. I had a stripper dance on me for about 45 minutes one night (on the floor, not VIP) while I was hardly able to walk from being so high, and it was better than any sex I've ever had.

It's great because it feels MUCH MUCH better, but at the same time it's harder for me to finish. Sounds like the perfect combination.....so I tried it one time, and the woman I was with didn't feel like "waiting" for me, so it ended up kinda badly LOL!!!

[tmracing83]

lol everything is better when ur high. That's why half of America has eaither tried smoking atlease once or smokes weed. I can't asks u but I smoked a blunt back in the day when my girl was suckin my dick. That shit was off the chain! lol. So I feel where uri coming from. Sex is amazing. But when ur high it's even better . Bottom line bud is awsome.

[tmracing83]

Hey Lank, that bud I got is amazing for real.

[BluesClues]

lol everything is better when ur high. That's why half of America has eaither tried smoking atlease once or smokes weed. I can't asks u but I smoked a blunt back in the day when my girl was suckin my dick. That shit was off the chain! lol. So I feel where uri coming from. Sex is amazing. But when ur high it's even better . Bottom line bud is awsome.
Yes indeed!!!!

Um, yes. I had a stripper dance on me for about 45 minutes one night (on the floor, not VIP) while I was hardly able to walk from being so high, and it was better than any sex I've ever had.

It's great because it feels MUCH MUCH better, but at the same time it's harder for me to finish. Sounds like the perfect combination.....so I tried it one time, and the woman I was with didn't feel like "waiting" for me, so it ended up kinda badly LOL!!!
Ended up badly? :???:

[Lankhoss]

Yes indeed!!!!

Ended up badly? :???:


Um, yeah. You know how there's that stigma of "the guy finishes, the woman isn't satisfied, then he rolls over and goes to sleep"

Yeah, well....that's what happened with me, only after about 20 minutes or so and her getting off 3 times, she just laid there and got mad at me for not finishing lol

[BluesClues]

Um, yeah. You know how there's that stigma of "the guy finishes, the woman isn't satisfied, then he rolls over and goes to sleep"

Yeah, well....that's what happened with me, only after about 20 minutes or so and her getting off 3 times, she just laid there and got mad at me for not finishing lol
Lol.

[PSINXS]

Ok, so here likes to have sex on weed? Man that is the best sex of my life!!!!!!! Never felt so good before :goodjob:
What is it about weed that makes everything feel so good? I mean taking a shower feels good high. Not the same with alcohol. I could care less for sex when drunk. It doesn't add to the sensation and it's harder for me to get off. I normally get bored before I do lol

on weed, i can go for hours. drunk u lucky if i get it up lol

weed is a euphoric drug.

[BluesClues]

on weed, i can go for hours. drunk u lucky if i get it up lol

weed is a euphoric drug.
Yeah I've noticed guys have problems getting it up when drunk and keeping it up

[Lankhoss]

Haven't had sex while drunk yet.....maybe there's a reason for that lol

[PSINXS]

Yeah I've noticed guys have problems getting it up when drunk and keeping it up
blood to thin with alcohol i believe.

[BluesClues]

blood to thin with alcohol i believe.
Hmmm.... never thought about it that way :thinking:, but good point :goodjob:

[tmracing83]

Psinsx. Well put!

[ATL_EG]

i need to stop drinking and posting

[Me86Rob]

lawlz

[02SloWrx]

lol at this thread

[T.C.]

Brownies, and peanut butter cookies(dank of course) are incredible if you've ever had them done the correct way.

[tmracing83]

the one time i ate brownies i was incredibly high for like 6 hours

best high ever

[BluesClues]

I've never eaten brownies. I would love to try it though.

So yeah due to my horrible experience of a night last night, I went out and bought $20 of some kush. Smoked a blunt and was relaxed. Feel like I want to just smoke my day away now :cry:

[Lankhoss]

I did brownies once, and yes the high does last for a very long time.

Basically, it temporarily gave me Downs Syndrome for about 2 1/2 hours.

[BluesClues]

I did brownies once, and yes the high does last for a very long time.

Basically, it temporarily gave me Downs Syndrome for about 2 1/2 hours.
Wow, that's pretty serious. LOL

[PSINXS]

brownies are the shit!!!!! best high ever. last time i had em was high school. i tried to make some and failed. wasted a quarter of midget :(

[BluesClues]

Well damn!

[PSINXS]

but i was makin them with an idiot so thats y we failed.

[SloWRX]

brownies are the shit!!!!! best high ever. last time i had em was high school. i tried to make some and failed. wasted a quarter of midget :(

LOL that fkin sucks!

[§treet_§peed]

salvia promotes a spiritual type trip. I have always been able to perform regardless of how high i was or how drunk i was.

[BluesClues]

but i was makin them with an idiot so thats y we failed.
:lmfao:

[Lankhoss]

I think you need like a full ounce, possibly more, to make a full cake pan of brownies.

The stuff we were eating was about 2.5g of pot per brownie.

[ATL_EG]

I think you need like a full ounce, possibly more, to make a full cake pan of brownies.

The stuff we were eating was about 2.5g of pot per brownie.

i've always used a zip to make brownies with, there fuckin bomb. the medical edibles from cali kick SO MUCH ASS, mmmm edibles made with med bud :D

[tmracing83]

I did brownies 2 times. Once with a half o, and once with a full zip. Both times I was baked. For bout 4-6 hours. Just eat a bunch of em lol. Hey BRAD! U buy a 2 liter yet?

[BluesClues]

I want some now :(

[tmracing83]

i've always used a zip to make brownies with, there fuckin bomb. the medical edibles from cali kick SO MUCH ASS, mmmm edibles made with med bud :D



U know someone right now that can "get" medical edibles? Or did u go to Cali.

[BluesClues]

What's medical edibles? :???:

[tmracing83]

What's medical edibles? :???:

All kinds of shit. To make it short and east they take bud an turn it into butter then make all kinds of sweets with the bitter that is medical marijuana. Like brownies, cookies, i've seen reese cups, cakes they've even got like marijuana olive oil type shit. They are turning everday edibles into that same shit just with thc.

[BluesClues]

All kinds of shit. To make it short and east they take bud an turn it into butter then make all kinds of sweets with the bitter that is medical marijuana. Like brownies, cookies, i've seen reese cups, cakes they've even got like marijuana olive oil type shit. They are turning everday edibles into that same shit just with thc.
OH DAMN!!!! Never heard of anything like that before.

[99hatch]

All i have to say about this is:

www.volcanovaporizer.com

[BluesClues]

All i have to say about this is:

www.volcanovaporizer.com (http://www.volcanovaporizer.com)
Maybe you should get that for me for christmas or my birthday :goodjob:

[Lankhoss]

I supposedly smoked some medical stuff one night. But then again, you never really know what the f' you have. Everyone is like "Yo dawg, dis be dat crayzee shit no one ever heard up. It's the Snuffleupagus Kush!!" Then you smoke it, and it's absolutely no different than anything else you've had before.

[Ms Dollar]

salvia promotes a spiritual type trip. I have always been able to perform regardless of how high i was or how drunk i was.

I've tried that stuff before...never laughed more in my life. I was "watching TV" more like starting at a TV that was off and laughing my ass off...once I got started I couldn't stop. Tasted weird though...

[BluesClues]

I supposedly smoked some medical stuff one night. But then again, you never really know what the f' you have. Everyone is like "Yo dawg, dis be dat crayzee shit no one ever heard up. It's the Snuffleupagus Kush!!" Then you smoke it, and it's absolutely no different than anything else you've had before.
I know what you mean!

[ATL_EG]

U know someone right now that can "get" medical edibles? Or did u go to Cali.

knew a guy that got them here from cali


I supposedly smoked some medical stuff one night. But then again, you never really know what the f' you have. Everyone is like "Yo dawg, dis be dat crayzee shit no one ever heard up. It's the Snuffleupagus Kush!!" Then you smoke it, and it's absolutely no different than anything else you've had before.

yeah, but when you see the despensiary (sp?) label on the bags it's pretty convincing, not just some word of mouth bs in a cig cellophane

[§treet_§peed]

I've tried that stuff before...never laughed more in my life. I was "watching TV" more like starting at a TV that was off and laughing my ass off...once I got started I couldn't stop. Tasted weird though...i agree. it does have a weird taste. although, all the times i have done it i have never laughed any what so ever.

[tmracing83]

I've tried that stuff before...never laughed more in my life. I was "watching TV" more like starting at a TV that was off and laughing my ass off...once I got started I couldn't stop. Tasted weird though...

O ya I remember that, taste like shit lol

[tmracing83]

Lol at QD neg repping me 3 times on this thread lol


He's such a thug nasty gangster. Wish I could be half as thug as that hardass.

lol

[Lankhoss]

We just made a little waterfall bong out of a 20oz drink bottle. It's pretty sweet ha ha

[§treet_§peed]

i wish i had some siliva right now to stop my ear from hurting and to let me relax a little.

[tmracing83]

We just made a little waterfall bong out of a 20oz drink bottle. It's pretty sweet ha ha

The hits still drill good?

[tmracing83]

i wish i had some siliva right now to stop my ear from hurting and to let me relax a little.

Go hit up a smoke shop. Doubt it would help ur ear though.

[Lankhoss]

The hits still drill good?

Yeah.....I find it easier to hit for some reason.

[§treet_§peed]

Go hit up a smoke shop. Doubt it would help ur ear though.lol i know of five different shops but i can't afford to buy any right now with not having a job and having other bills that come first. i need a new glass pipe anyways.

[S14Redondo]

get a job, it's a conspiracy, pothead morons, useless members, watch out for "the man"



Current Tags ^^^^^^





I lol'd

[RedEj8]

I <3 beasters.

[Me86Rob]

I feel like a Kohala Bear just crapped a rainbow in my brain.

[tmracing83]

I feel like a Kohala Bear just crapped a rainbow in my brain.




So how blazed did I get u? Didn't really get to talk much on the count of j slept the whole time.

[Me86Rob]

So how blazed did I get u? Didn't really get to talk much on the count of j slept the whole time.
dude ive NEVER been that high. Like, I got high to the point of being sick, which is why i passed out. lol

[tmracing83]

dude ive NEVER been that high. Like, I got high to the point of being sick, which is why i passed out. lol



No worries, it's all good. I just wish u didn't get sick. Thy shit doesn't happen often to anyone. Normally atleast.



The grav bong shows no mercy..

[Me86Rob]

No worries, it's all good. I just wish u didn't get sick. Thy shit doesn't happen often to anyone. Normally atleast.



The grav bong shows no mercy..
It was a first time ever for me being sick. and LOL qd hasnt negged me yet.

[SloWRX]

dude ive NEVER been that high. Like, I got high to the point of being sick, which is why i passed out. lol

hahaha my favorite kind of high!

[tmracing83]

I've never gotten sick, but I would never want to be sick from smokin...

[Lankhoss]

hahaha my favorite kind of high!


WHAT? lol

[ATL_EG]

I've never gotten sick, but I would never want to be sick from smokin...

it happend to me the day i got off probation, it fuckin sucked

[BAD SS]

lolthread.

I made brownies once and ate quite a few. Slept for 17 hours...


I supposedly smoked some medical stuff one night. But then again, you never really know what the f' you have. Everyone is like "Yo dawg, dis be dat crayzee shit no one ever heard up. It's the Snuffleupagus Kush!!" Then you smoke it, and it's absolutely no different than anything else you've had before.

Literally rolling right now.

[tmracing83]

WHAT? lol











































































X2

[sogood]

i wish i had some siliva right now to stop my ear from hurting and to let me relax a little.

What the fuck is "siliva"...? :dunno:

[ATL_EG]

What the fuck is "siliva"...? :dunno:

i think he ment salvia...which is gay:gay:

[tmracing83]

What the fuck is "siliva"...? :dunno:



Try google.


Spelled salvia not siliva

[tmracing83]

It's 420

[Black4DrEK]

It's 420



OO SHIT time to BLAZE IT!! el o el

[BluesClues]

So I didn't get to hang out with Lankhoss tonight because I've have gotten sick. Don't know with what now, but my voice is GONE! Nauseated and all. But I did get some "popcorn" tonight (some pretty good mid). I got a dime. But this shit has crystals. I mean it's still dark green (dark compared to some kush) but it has crystals. Some good shit! :goodjob:

[Me86Rob]

So I didn't get to hang out with Lankhoss tonight because I've have gotten sick. Don't know with what now, but my voice is GONE! Nauseated and all. But I did get some "popcorn" tonight (some pretty good mid). I got a dime. But this shit has crystals. I mean it's still dark green (dark compared to some kush) but it has crystals. Some good shit! :goodjob:

We were looking foward to you joining us tonight. We even cleaned the house:D

[Revmaynard]

Don't do it BluesClues, te72rob and lankhoss are gonna gangbang ya, then smoke you out. lolol

[98blackcivic]

36 fucking pages...

[Me86Rob]

Don't do it BluesClues, te72rob and lankhoss are gonna gangbang ya, then smoke you out. lolol
:umno:




:ninja:





:hitit:

[Revmaynard]

"Take that dick, and hit this Afghani!''

[BluesClues]

We were looking foward to you joining us tonight. We even cleaned the house:D
:( I'm sowey! I can't even talk now (I"m on the phone) I'm just whispering loudly lol

[Me86Rob]

:( I'm sowey! I can't even talk now (I"m on the phone) I'm just whispering loudly lol
Its all good. Hope you feel better

[BluesClues]

Its all good. Hope you feel better
Thanks. This is just a rain check. I will see you guys soon

[Me86Rob]

Thanks. This is just a rain check. I will see you guys soon
excelent! :) lol. So why you never get on aim anymore foo?

[Revmaynard]

:( I'm sowey! I can't even talk now (I"m on the phone) I'm just whispering loudly lol


Someone's got the swine flu! lol jk I hope you get better.

[BluesClues]

Someone's got the swine flu! lol jk I hope you get better.
Dont say that :(. My mom is concerned though lol. Got me all paranoid :crazy:

excelent! :) lol. So why you never get on aim anymore foo?

[Lankhoss]

Yeah, Blues' voice sounds HOT right now...I was fapping to it earlier when she was explaining her ailments to me over the phone.

[BluesClues]

^^^ Nutz man!

[Me86Rob]

^^^ Nutz man!
lol yea I think thats what he was hoping for...

[BluesClues]

lol yea I think thats what he was hoping for...
:lmfao:

[tmracing83]

Y'all negro's are craaaaaZ foooooool

[BluesClues]

You be the crazy fool, crazy fool!


































See what I did there? :ninja:

[tmracing83]

Oooooo.


I see what ya did there.



I want one of them "dranked" non-energy drinks...

[BluesClues]

I don't. I don't really have a problem with falling asleep

[BluesClues]

So since I am stuck at home because I am sick, I might as well get high right?
So I mixed the rest of my kush of some of the mid I bought last night, and I am only maybe half way through my bowl and I am high as hell :fruit:

[tmracing83]

Lucky...

[BluesClues]

heh

[Lankhoss]

<-----------Lit

[Me86Rob]

x2

[Revmaynard]

Please tell me you guys aren't together posting in here. lolol

[tmracing83]

^^^^ u know they r.

U ever gonna get ur keys rob? lol
I'll get yall blazed again

[sogood]

So since I am stuck at home because I am sick, I might as well get high right?
So I mixed the rest of my kush of some of the mid I bought last night, and I am only maybe half way through my bowl and I am high as hell :fruit:

:no:

[Me86Rob]

^^^^ u know they r.

U ever gonna get ur keys rob? lol
I'll get yall blazed again
one of theses days
i got keys to the wagon thats all that matters right now lol

[BluesClues]

Just now waking up. So got high as hell, had hella munchies, and passed out. lol

[Me86Rob]

Just now waking up. So got high as hell, had hella munchies, and passed out. lol
lol we fixin to pack bowl #2

[BluesClues]

lol we fixin to pack bowl #2
I will in a minute :D. I'm still trying to wake up lol.

[FAM0U5]

did i tire you out?!

[BluesClues]

did i tire you out?!
What are you doing in here? This is a restricted thread. For smokers only :ninja:



































































And no you did not tire me out lol

[FAM0U5]

ok.. fine ill leave this thread is dumb neways.

[BluesClues]

ok.. fine ill leave this thread is dumb neways.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. You sound like you would be walking down the street with you head down kicking rocks pouting lol

[RandomGuy]

damn last night i played poker in midtown,

off of the balcony overlooking the city, many different exotic strain blunts were burned.

you need to learn how to play poker brad

EPIC

[BluesClues]

lol

[BluesClues]

I am first with 127 posts and tmracing83 is second with 112 posts in this thread! :goodjob: :yay:

[tmracing83]

Cause we like to smoke buds! This our thread! el oh elz

[BluesClues]

Cause we like to smoke buds! This our thread! el oh elz
Representin!

[tmracing83]

Hey brad have y'all watched pineapple express? If not u should download it. Get high. Then watch it.


Red is the man!

[BluesClues]

Hey brad have y'all watched pineapple express? If not u should download it. Get high. Then watch it.


Red is the man!
I love that movie!

[Me86Rob]

i have a few post

[Me86Rob]

but not many

[BluesClues]

NOt enough though. Get your post count up fool

[Me86Rob]

but im sure i will get more

[BluesClues]

Just keep at it buddy! :goodjob:

[Me86Rob]

before we stop postin in this thread. And Blues Clues...why dont you come over and help me get my post count up ;) ;) ;) :idb:

[tmracing83]

Bahahaha

[BluesClues]

before we stop postin in this thread. And Blues Clues...why dont you come over and help me get my post count up ;) ;) ;) :idb:
Why does everything have to be so perverted with guys all the time?

[tmracing83]

M O A R R R R R R

[Me86Rob]

Why does everything have to be so perverted with guys all the time?
I dont know what you are thinking, but i was talking about you coming over and getting high so i had good stories to tell in the thread