does some of the animosity towards obama...

[VIP Style]

has to do with his race? i certainly think so, but on a much smaller degree than some or most may believe. people who have a problem with his race are a minority amongst the majority to me.

[bdydrpdmazda]

Im sure in some people it does, my problem with him is that he is a dumb ass democrat. I just have a problem with a party that wants to tell me how to spend my money while taking more of my money with each and every paycheck I get. Luckily for me im in Iraq right now so I dont pay any taxes

[BanginJimmy]

Of course some poeple have issues with his race. That has never been disputed. The problem comes in when you get idiot politicians that want to throw the race card around and act like all of the disagree with Obama do so because of his race.


Here is a question for you minorities out there.

Do these bogus accusations of racism cheapen real cases of racism?

[jorgen]

NO! This has nothing to do with race.
This has everything to do with what he believes and the agenda he is trying to accomplish. I don't care what color his skin is or what race he is. It doesn't matter.

If Obama had a different agenda that everyone liked, we would all be standing behind him and supporting him, and that is a fact.
Racism is an excuse for them to bitch and moan and get there way.

[VIP Style]

NO! This has nothing to do with race.
This has everything to do with what he believes and the agenda he is trying to accomplish. I don't care what color his skin is or what race he is. It doesn't matter.

If Obama had a different agenda that everyone liked, we would all be standing behind him and supporting him, and that is a fact.
Racism is an excuse for them to bitch and moan and get there way.

disagreed

[bigdare23]

If Obama had a different agenda that everyone liked, we would all be standing behind him and supporting him, and that is a fact.


Everyone? It's impossible to please everyone!

[BluesClues]

disagreed
Agree on the disagree. :goodjob:

[BobbyFresco]

Oddly enough, Obama isn't playing the race card.
He accepted Joe Wilson's apology.
He hasn't made any assertions that the "Tea Party" protests are racially motivated.

[Frög]

Most (meaning 99%) animosity towards Obama is unrelated to the color of his skin.. Of course there are people that hate him/disagree with him bc of his race, but that is an insignificant few..

[BanginJimmy]

Oddly enough, Obama isn't playing the race card.
He accepted Joe Wilson's apology.
He hasn't made any assertions that the "Tea Party" protests are racially motivated.

Obama isnt the one playing the race card, but I am sure he approves of it. It's people like the gov of New Jersey and Jimmy Carter. You also have several congressmen claiming that everyone opposing Obama is a racist.

[BobbyFresco]

Obama isnt the one playing the race card, but I am sure he approves of it. It's people like the gov of New Jersey and Jimmy Carter. You also have several congressmen claiming that everyone opposing Obama is a racist.


:rolleyes:
Obama has made it very clear that he doesn't believe that racism is to blame, on the large scale the media is portraying...
In fact, media outlets are mostly to blame for the sensationilizing of stories and attributing racism to how people are behaving.

[BanginJimmy]

:rolleyes:
Obama has made it very clear that he doesn't believe that racism is to blame, on the large scale the media is portraying...
In fact, media outlets are mostly to blame for the sensationilizing of stories and attributing racism to how people are behaving.

I agree that the media is compounding it, but it is politicians that are actually saying it. More than a dozen have been quoted saying that race is the reason why so many people cant stand Obama. Anyone with at least half a brain knows that isnt true though.

[Total_Blender]

I just have a problem with a party that wants to tell me how to spend my money while taking more of my money with each and every paycheck I get.

Well if you get your way and we don't have to pay for gov't policies we don't agree with, I request to be exempted for paying for the war in Iraq. And I also want backpay, dating back to 2003 since I opposed that mofo from the beginning. :lmfao:

[jhadleyh]

Im sure in some people it does, my problem with him is that he is a dumb ass democrat. I just have a problem with a party that wants to tell me how to spend my money while taking more of my money with each and every paycheck I get. Luckily for me im in Iraq right now so I dont pay any taxes


what branch are you in? im in the Air Force and i will be at Bilad Air base Iraq next september

[VIP Style]

I believe obamas race is the reason why "some" cant stand him. i mean come on, just because obama has become president doesnt mean america has just entered some post-racist era where racism no longer exist. obviously these politicians have seen alot more than we will ever see to be able to make conclusions like jimmy carter has.
I agree that the media is compounding it, but it is politicians that are actually saying it. More than a dozen have been quoted saying that race is the reason why so many people cant stand Obama. Anyone with at least half a brain knows that isnt true though.

[Justin51982]

I disagree, I don't think for MOST it has to do with his race, for some probably, but MOST, probably not. My animosity for him comes from him being a tard.

[PSINXS]

ask this question at stormfront.com

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O=One
B=Big
A=Ass
M=Mistake
A=America

[bdydrpdmazda]

O=One
B=Big
A=Ass
M=Mistake
A=America
EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!

[bdydrpdmazda]

Well if you get your way and we don't have to pay for gov't policies we don't agree with, I request to be exempted for paying for the war in Iraq. And I also want backpay, dating back to 2003 since I opposed that mofo from the beginning. :lmfao:
Your a dumb ass, why do i give a fuck what you think about the war?

[bdydrpdmazda]

what branch are you in? im in the Air Force and i will be at Bilad Air base Iraq next september
Im in the Army. I got out back in 2007 but when obama got elected I got a letter in the mail calling me back up to come back over to iraq. I currently live in baghdad on the Victory base complex

[Justin51982]

Im in the Army. I got out back in 2007 but when obama got elected I got a letter in the mail calling me back up to come back over to iraq. I currently live in baghdad on the Victory base complex


Thanks for what you do man. I know it's not easy to be a soldier, and people don't appreciate you guys like they should. So thanks for serving.

[bdydrpdmazda]

Thanks for what you do man. I know it's not easy to be a soldier, and people don't appreciate you guys like they should. So thanks for serving.
thanks alot, serving my country makes me feel good, check your reps

[bdydrpdmazda]

I disagree, I don't think for MOST it has to do with his race, for some probably, but MOST, probably not. My animosity for him comes from him being a tard.
my sentiments exactly

[S2KJD]

no not for me it doesnt. this thread should have a poll so i dont have to read all the post :D

[bdydrpdmazda]

no not for me it doesnt. this thread should have a poll so i dont have to read all the post :D
dang you were only number 25, thats barely past the first page:lmfao:

[Total_Blender]

Your a dumb ass, why do i give a fuck what you think about the war?

If you don't give a fuck, then why even reply about it?

As for the Obama acronym, I could make a joke about teabaggers but its really so obvious I don't need to point it out.

http://static.crooksandliars.com/files/uploads/2009/03/teabag_fail_competence_092cc.jpg

http://livingliberally.org/files/u1260/no_teabagger_proofreading.jpg

http://s2.buzzfeed.com/static/imagebuzz/web04/2009/8/15/13/honest-protestor-28236-1250355636-114.jpg

http://s2.buzzfeed.com/static/imagebuzz/web04/2009/8/15/13/honest-protestor-28236-1250355636-114.jpg

http://i348.photobucket.com/albums/q344/Tommy_Carcetti/oligarhy.png

[BanginJimmy]

If you don't give a fuck, then why even reply about it?

As for the Obama acronym, I could make a joke about teabaggers but its really so obvious I don't need to point it out.

http://static.crooksandliars.com/files/uploads/2009/03/teabag_fail_competence_092cc.jpg

http://livingliberally.org/files/u1260/no_teabagger_proofreading.jpg

http://s2.buzzfeed.com/static/imagebuzz/web04/2009/8/15/13/honest-protestor-28236-1250355636-114.jpg

http://s2.buzzfeed.com/static/imagebuzz/web04/2009/8/15/13/honest-protestor-28236-1250355636-114.jpg

http://i348.photobucket.com/albums/q344/Tommy_Carcetti/oligarhy.png

Your whole post = debunked


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3575/3373999083_2acc746f65.jpg

[Total_Blender]

Your whole post = debunked


I don't get what you mean by posting up pictures of a couple of Black guys at a protest and saying my post was debunked. I'm sure there are minorities who support the Republican agenda. If I were to turn on Fox News chances are I might even see Michael Steele or Bobby Jindall or Michelle Malkin.

The post above of the pictures with the misspellings were not to say that the tea party crowds were entirely White (although I'm sure Black attendance was probably less than 1%). Those pictures I posted were just for the lols.

But while you are on the subject of Blacks at the tea parties, what are your thoughts on the video of the Black girls who were selling "don't tread on me" flags getting chased around by White protesters who were shouting "ACORN!!!1! ACORN!!!1!!" What proof did they have that the girls were actually from ACORN? We all know if those kids were White it wouldn't have been assumed they were working for ACORN, nor would they have been followed/disrespected in such a manner. It seems ACORN has become a buzzword for the negative image some White conservatives have of Blacks.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOhmFiqf98Y

The guy with the camera is lucky they only punched him... following people and shouting at them in a belligerent manner was kind of asking for it.

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I HATE ALL OF THEM I WANT THIS MAN BACK......
http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w27/italy315/bill-clinton-picture.jpg

[Justin51982]

[QUOTE=Total_Blender;38330832]I don't get what you mean by posting up pictures of a couple of Black guys at a protest and saying my post was debunked. I'm sure there are minorities who support the Republican agenda. If I were to turn on Fox News chances are I might even see Michael Steele or Bobby Jindall or Michelle Malkin.

The post above of the pictures with the misspellings were not to say that the tea party crowds were entirely White (although I'm sure Black attendance was probably less than 1%).QUOTE]

I swear you are one of these people that just pulls numbers out of your ass. There are a lot of black people that do not agree with Obama, and even so, who cares about race. Black people can have the same views as Republicans, and Whites can have the same views as Democrats.

Even so, you make up number and statistics that you state as fact, and really you have no data to back it up.

Stop posting numbers, percentages, and other statistics unless you actually know what you are talking about. Also, when the occasions come up that you do, please cite your source. This will give you more credibility.

[AirMax95]

Your whole post = debunked


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3575/3373999083_2acc746f65.jpg

Just a question, but how does that debunk his post? Maybe I missed something?

[Justin51982]

Those guys kinda look like secret service

[Total_Blender]

Stop posting numbers, percentages, and other statistics unless you actually know what you are talking about. Also, when the occasions come up that you do, please cite your source. This will give you more credibility.

There are no numbers posted for things like this. Even the total participation numbers have been called into question, as the promoters of these events are using photos from other events that drew larger crowds and the numbers between sources vary. The New York Times says 60k, Freedomworks said more than a million (although this was a misquote, as seen below).

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/protest-crowd-size-estimate-falsely-attributed-abc-news/story?id=8558055

(you may need to register for the Washington Post to see this one)
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/09/21/AR2009092103405.html

[quote=excerpt from WP article]

The National Park Service has been the target of much ire because of this disparity, steadfastly refusing to offer its guess. "In 1995, we were ordered by Congress not to give crowd estimates," said Bill Line, the affable and earnest spokesman for most of the region's parks and historic monuments...


...The folks who applied to gather at Freedom Plaza and march to the Capitol on Sept. 12 said on their form that "they expected 5,000 people," Line said. So that's what the Park Service prepared for.[\quote]


So Freedomworks (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astroturfing) only applied for 5,000 on the permit for the 9/12 protest even though they had a huge advertising campaign (Fox was promoting this 24/7) and they were saying in their advertising they would have "millions" prior to the event. These guys seem really ethical in their regard to the safety of their followers, as giving a close estimate ensures that there will be enough emergency services and sanitation (i.e. porta potties) for the safety of the crowd. But thats going off topic...

Back to the lecture at hand (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAEOu8UnCkI) though, did you guys not see in the links that I posted that the "White Nationalist" groups were these events for purposes of recruiting and distributing their "literature"?

[Justin51982]

Much better, thank you.

[Justin51982]

Is it just me, or has this entire thread taken a harsh turn from what it started out as?

[AirMax95]

This is ImportAtlanta. Nothing stays on course, lol.

[Justin51982]

This is ImportAtlanta. Nothing stays on course, lol.

LOL....dually noted

[BanginJimmy]

did you guys not see in the links that I posted that the "White Nationalist" groups were these events for purposes of recruiting and distributing their "literature"?

Whats your point?

A story from WND in March of '08. Using your same logic, I guess its safe to assume that Obama is in tight with the Black Panthers. Although, there is a lot more proof of that than the baseless claims you are using.

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=59398


Shabbaz, who has given scores of speeches condemning "white men" and Jews, said today Obama "is the best guy to bring the kinds of racial changes supported by our community at the New Black Panthers."